I have spent 30 years trying to get lag. I have taken lessons, I have tried countless methodologies. I have looked at hundreds of videos. I have looked at hundreds of pro videos in slow motion. I signed up for internet golf classes. I took private lessons. I have followed various youtube golf teachers. Yet, I am a complete and utter lag failure (with a single digit handicap index). I have tried so many ways to hang on to the club, pull the church bell, blah blah blah...then look at my own terrible swing videos I make myself at the range and never get it. Not for decades. Then I watched 10 or 15 of your videos this week and boom, I GOT IT!! I GOT LAG for the very first time in my life! I feel like I can really go after the ball now!! What a great feeling. I had so much right to begin with...the the concept of releasing the club early is what finally got me there. Why is every other teacher wrong and you and Mike Austin right? I don't get it? Maybe those golf teachers themselves don't understand. I wish I could send you a before after video to show what an improvement you and Mike Austin made on my swing in a few days. Thank you thank you thank you!
Great insight!!! Finally, someone who can explain how to create lag. When I tried to artificially create and hold lag, I would hit with no power and/or shank it. Thanks to Steve's explanation, I get forward shaft lean without even thinking to do it.
Steve, I hope you see this. I fell in love with golf forty years ago at the age of 17 and was ready to retire a few years ago out of poor play and stagnation. For me, your style of teaching/coaching is magical. It had been so bad over the last four years that I was chalking it up to age and resigned to giving up. I'm not "fixed" but what an absolute turnaround I have experienced since tapping into your channel. I must admit that I'm not ready to share you with my playing partners yet. You are that good!!
Omg, can’t believe I found someone doing what I been doing for a while. I’ve found this flip swing by trying to some what copy Moe Norman swing. After failing time and time again, I’ve tried to make it as simple as possible so I can remove my hook/hand rotation. At the start, I did the knee high flip shot. It was a lower trajectory and it pulled a little. After a few weeks of trial and error I got it to go straight. What I did was focus on flipping slightly outward and not down the line. My last 3 rounds has been in the mid 70s. The ball flight wasn’t high but it was extremely straight. I lost 2-3 yards off my irons but it was a good trade off.
Hi Steve , Great job of trying to explain the release and I love the hip movement works awesome. So yes setting up the flip is in timing and movement for much greater power and straightness, love your teaching skills and explaining it so well.
I was one of those who were “fooled by the photograph”. I took some golf instruction that used video to get me into certain positions (shaft lean at impact) and it didn’t work for me. My club head speed went down and my handicap went up. I’m now trying a new coach. Thanks for your insight Steve.
Steve, I also refer to the flip vs flap as twisting vs throwing. You are correct and anyone who wants to "hold" the face forever will give yup serious speed. Gunny I was typing my comment adding Vijay as my example when you made him your third. Right on!!
Good video, I spent the last five years at least trying to achieve the mythical impact position by purposely holding my right wrist back and bowing my left wrist, and thinking I control all of this through the swing, way too much work. It went left, right, high, low, and came up short most of the time. UGH
Steve, My story. Been playing for roughly 20 years. Gone from 8 to 12 to 30+. Two new hips, one rotator cuff. Trying to start playing again. Am now looking at 2 extremes on RU-vid, you and Tom Saguto. Maybe have not given Tom’s method enough of a chance, but having swing speed in mid 60’s is not going to cut it. Only 65, and in pretty good shape for my age. Hate to be out driven by 80 year olds. Have not gone to range with your methods, and will shortly, Have to increase swing speed to make me competitive or take up fishing.
One of the best golf youtubers and the best at really understanding and explaining the golf swing. Incredible video. I have one more point in regards to those that hold the angle by pulling the lead hand: PLEASE DONT! One less talked about aspect of doing this is You are very Prone to Lead hand wrist injury when pulling the club. I did this 5 years ago for about 5 months, and then it lead to cartilage damage, which lead to wrist surgery. Now I have been back for 2 years and switched back to my normal "releasing swing" and my handicap is now around 2.3.
Love your coaching ! The hand action you taught added twenty plus yards to my drive. I just need to concentrate on leading with the hip turn and pinning the left shoulder to chest before the hand action otherwise it is a slap hook. Do it right the ball just go a long way n roll a lot. Many thanks !
This is great information... I believe the biggest issue is confusing flip vs release. You can't effectively release the club if you hold that angle. Good stuff Steve.
Always informative and on point Steve! From other videos posted: maintaining the figure 7 ensures the weight shift and rotation , while the elbow unfold (Mike Austin comment) generates the amazing force/power to hit it far and make the flap happen post impact. Zero delay of the wrist thought, if anything at all, the thinking is: release from the top. Is that a good foundation when practicing at the range? And, following that, what would be the one swing thought that I can take to the course? Thank you again for being informative and dispelling the myths.
The left hand however, is rock solid for ALL good golfers. ALL GREAT golfers have rock solid strong left forearm and hand. Most right-handed people have very weak left forearm and hand. Ambidextrous people have a massive advantage in golf
A statistic which proves this theory of Steve's, is that the average tour pro's clubface is rotating much less (measured in rpm's) than the average amateurs clubface. This shows that pro's are flapping and amateurs are flipping (rotating the shaft).
Absolutely brilliant, this video lesson has been very enlightening. Thank you for sharing! Your annual membership cost on the web, does that include video swing reviews? Also a 221 yard 5 iron, you can call me Flip McFlippyburger ANYTIME! LOL
Yourself, Bradley Hughes and Mike Malaska are the only coaches I’ve watched that really know feel vs real, that still pictures or even video doesn’t tell the full story of internal pressures and forces acting within a golf swing. I like Brads analogy of a vapor trail - what you are seeing at a certain point in a swing is a vapor trail of a previous action Also Hogan literally told us the intention of his right hand “I wish I had three right hands” - why would you want three right hands if you aren’t going to use them through impact 🤷♂️
Steve, in several of your videos you have alluded to this so I know you are aware of it but I have not seen you explicitly state something that I have just realized - that is that it is not possible to flap and to perform the undesirable twisting motion of the face simultaneously. You can still rotate the forearms while flapping which is necessary to keep the face square to the arc. if you do not flap, however, then it is very easy to rotate the forearms as well as twist the shaft simultaneously, which is a miserable way to play golf.
Hey Steve, just wanted you to know I have posted some of best scores this year with your help. I already have a 30 for a nine, haven’t posted anything close to that in years, my problem is when focusing on coming from inside I push or big pull hook… those are the misses - help.
I was trying to slow down the clubface rotation and this would lead to a lot of shots pushed right. I recently went back to a lot of forerarm supination and noticing I am hitting longer with less effort. It's kind of what you are describing. Basically this forearm supination, feels like I am being very flippy. I think you can flip if you can get right shoulder moving forward enough. If he right shoulder hangs back and you flip.. you are DEAD. So yea, I thnk the flip is a great power generator, but you got to shift you center forward, or you its not going to be pretty.
Something I’ve just started to notice in your recent videos but maybe you’ve done all along: Are you doing a 10 finger “baseball style” grip? Do you recommend it over interlock or Vardon? It feels so foreign to me on a golf club.
Sometimes I find myself demonstrating like that but I do use an overlap when I hit. I don't like interlocking too much but grip style doesn't really matter.
Where were you thirty years ago? You could have saved me a lot of experimenting in vain! It's not whether you flip, but when you flip! And why the hell has no one else pointed this out. Yes, I'm talking to you David Leadbetter and all the other self proclaimed swing gurus.
Folks always get in the wrong place when looking at static shots of a dynamic high velocity motion. 1 frame in hundreds. When it flies good, it is good. My advice, "Don't let the b.....s get you down."
I think Steve knows his method. He waits until the last two minutes of the video to actually explain HOW to achieve his result. The rest of the time he repeats his definition of "flappy" and "flippy" to the point of redundancy. I think Steve is agood teacher who needs to focus on the result more than explaining what he's going to explain, over and over.
