+magic131 he is right. He augmented the behind the back pass with an additional fake which I have not seen anyone done b4. And to finish it with one hand high off the glass? That's bad ass
That Argentina team was absolutely fantastic. I'm Italian and I remember the sad feelinga after our final loss, but after all this time I have to admit Argentina was the only team that deserves that win...
Everybody think that Ginobili won this game. A great mistake, in this team Ginobili, Pepe Sanchez and Wolkowyski were NBA players, and after this Delfino, Herrmann, Nocioni, Oberto, Scola became NBA. Montecchia and Sconochini made a large career in Europe. And Leo Gutierrez is the most champion player in Argentina league. I think this team is the ultimate team of Argentine basket.
danisl2009 who said so?? but you see how he made mincemint on most USA players on every penetration opportunity. That goes to show that he is a lot smarter than most american players on that time.
No, this was an even greater accomplishment. If the best athletes in the USA played soccer and not basketball, football, tennis, sprinting, and baseball all ahead of soccer we would easily be the best soccer nation ever!. But soccer is more of a female sport in the USA!
Aesthetic Pepe because hollywoods biggest market is the USA obviously , why would Americans want to watch that ? Nothing is stopping Argentina from making a movie about it tho... Why don't they make one ?
As an American I think this should be shown to all of our young basketball players. We lost not only because we underestimated them, but because Argentina played as a team and we didn’t. Much respect. 👍
Yes! And it should also be required viewing because I'm pretty sure these USA players weren't prepared *individually* from the very beginning either! As I said in another comment, case in point: in the very first game, the team shot 3-for-24 from a three-point line *more than 3 feet closer* than the NBA line, and in that same game, shot two air balls, got a ball wedged between the rim and the backboard, and clanged one off the side of the backboard (leading to a famous line in Sports Illustrated, "thank god these men aren't representing the US in archery")! In other words, it was as if they'd *never* played in that gym before, never got used to moving on that floor before that day, never got used to the bounce of the rim or the backboard, and never practiced with the game balls that were going to be used in that tournament before that first game (if it turns out that that was the case, I genuinely would not be *at all* shocked to hear it)! That lead to a 19-point loss against Puerto Rico (a game in which they got off to a *very* slow start, in which they were outscored in the *second quarter alone* by 21 points), and the truth is, that team actually did *very steadily* improve from there... They improved *a lot* in the next game (which isn't saying much) beat Greece by *six* (still *very embarrassing* for the talent gap that existed), and then, despite *another* slow start against Australia, improved again overall to beat them by 10. Of course, then they lost to Lithuania, and despite finally seeming to find their footing by *drubbing* Angola by 36, the damage was already done, and they finished *fourth* in Group B, *by far* the weaker of the two groups (the one that, as I mentioned, contained minnows Puerto Rico, Greece, Australia, and Angola, and *did not* contain favorites Spain, Serbia & Montenegro, Argentina, or Italy)... And yet, they *still* managed to improve *greatly,* actually beating Spain (who *topped* that monster group with a perfect record, and whom I genuinely believe would have gone on to win the gold medal if they win that game, considering they finished second behind much-better US teams at the following two Olympics with nearly the exact same squad), then had this lapse against Argentina (once again due to a slow start), before coming back much stronger in the bronze medal rematch against Lithuania! And yes, you could see the massive improvement in the individual performances as well. Perhaps the biggest case in point was Shawn Marion, who was *awful* in that first game against Puerto Rico (4 points and 0 assists, going 2-for-8 from the floor, shooting an air ball from 3, and being a *massive* defensive liability), before improving *greatly,* all leading to a great performance in the Bronze Medal game against Lithuania (22 points and *3* steals, going 9-for-15 from the floor and 2-for-3 from 3-point land)! He was one of *many* who saw massive *individual* improvements from game 1 to game 8 (case in point: in game 1, no one scored more than 15, the top 4- who all scored in double digits- combined for only 53 points, and the seven players who didn't score in double-digits *combined* for 20 points *total.* In game 8, of course, Marion scored *22 points,* the top 4 combined for a much stronger *65 points,* and the rest of the team who didn't score in double-digits combined for just shy of *40* points)! Basically, not only did this team not play as a team at *any* point in tournament, but they weren't even *individually* ready to begin, and that rippled *throughout* the tournament (and even within *individual games.* Not only did they get off to a *very slow* immediately start, and slow start overall, but only *finally* found their *individual* form *far too late* in the tournament)! It's a lesson in how important it is to be *prepared* from the *very* beginning, and how failing to do so will create problems that will only compound and lead to more and more problems as your campaign moves forward (whatever profession you're in, be it sports, music, or an everyday job in finance)! I am honestly *very sure* that if they actually came simply *individually prepared* on Day One, with a feel for the floor, the game balls, and the rim and backboard, while they probably still lose a game or two early, they *do* end up winning the gold medal in the end simply due to their overall improvement by tournament's end! The following three Olympics, where the United States were *very clearly* prepared from *day one,* and not only did they win the gold all three times, but did so with relative ease (only being seriously challenged on rare occassions, and still usually winning those games by margins greater than their 10-point margin against Australia that was their *only* double-digit win outside of that 36-point drubbing against last-placed Angola), are proof of that difference (especially 2016, where many superstars chose to sit out like in 2004, yet they *still* dominated due to proper preparation)! Yet again, a *major* lesson in how important it is to come prepared (both individually and collectively) on *day one!*
@hard-hitting bloke HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA, nice joke. Street ballers from Argentina would beat the 92 dream team. You have a vivid imagination. Look, I respect Argentina for their victory in this video but you mustn't make bold claims like that.
Parabéns aos hermanos, mostrando muita garra, vontade e gana. Com os jogadores dando tudo de cima, emocionante ver essa vitória. Essa tem que ser vista para sempre.
Argentina Basketball Team: - Gold Medal Olympics 2004 - FIBA World Champion 1950 & runner-up in Indianapolis 2002 in a controversial final against Yugoslavia - FIBA Diamond Ball Champion 2008 - FIBA Americas Champion 2001 & 2011 - Basket Panamerican Games Champion 1995 - The only team in the world that won twice to a United States team completely formed by NBA players (Indianapolis 2002, Atenas 2004) - The only basketball team of America that conquered the quintuple crown (Olympics, FIBA World Cup, FIBA Diamond Ball, FIBA Americas and Panamerican Games) I think we deserve respect in the world of basketball.
bernabanfield Si merecen respeto pero ya sus tiempos de ganar medallas olimpicas y eso se acabó con la llamada "generación dorada". La mayoría de los jugadores argentinos de hoy día no son de calidad mundialista ni olimpica, Argentina llegará a mundiales y olimpiadas pero no será por su calidad sino por la mala calidad de baloncesto que se juega en FIBA Americas. En esa región solo tres equipos (Argentina, Brasil y Puerto Rico) son los que siempre se luchan los puestos 1, 2 y 3 en el podio después de ahí solo hay puros muertos.
Kkwazzawazzakkwaquikkwalaquaza Zzabolazza el basquet nacional esta creciendo,no digas pavadas como si fuera que nunca en la vida se va a repetir un podio o algo,ademas laprovittola y campazzo son jugadorasos,tambien hay algunos como garino y acuña que pasaron por NBA,obviamente no estan para ser campeones olimpicos hoy,pero argentina esta en plena era de transcisión y si hay algo en el deporte argentino es que siempre hay jugadores de nivel mundial cuando se trabaja,asi como en rugby,hockey,tenis y futbol,esta es epoca de transcision,ademas de que el basquet tiene buen lugar en el deporte argentino
alan gaitan Lamentablemente, no. La Argentina actual tiene problemas hasta para clasificar a los Juegos Olimpicos...la generacion dorada que consiguio esos meritos, fue unica, quizas en 50 años se vuelva a dar que tengamos esta combinacion de jugadores, tecnico, y el mejor jugador del mundo (Ginobili en 2004 era el mejor del mundo)
También la llegada al puesto 1 del ranking FIBA, rompiendo el dominio de USA desde que juega con NBAs. Argentina de verdad logró todo; se puede tomar un tiempo en mejorar su liga y programar a futuro.
Es verdad, pero el triunfo del la generación Dorada en el 2002 contra el dream team en el patio de su casa fue la primera vez en la historia que esos tipos perdian. Despues vino el robo de la fiba contra yugoslavia. Para sacarse es sombrero estos tipos.
+Gabe G Allen Iverson Tim Duncan Carmelo Anthony LeBron James Stephon Marbury Dwayne Wade Amari Stoudemire How did this roster suck? Stop making excuses like these guys paying you to defend them online.
Congratulations to Argentina for this victory and the Olympic Gold. They had been preparing the base for this team since the late 80's. I watched them win the South American Under 15 Championships in Brasília, Brazil in 1989. Also I had the opportunity to talk to some Argentinian coaches in a biddy basketball jamboree in 1991 in Porto Alegre, Brazil and they were projecting a medal for the early 2000's. That is what you achieve with planning. Too bad Magnano could not repeat his success with the Brazilian National team.
Because brazilian basketball players were Lazy. They had a lot of talent, but his mentality were not as the argentinian mentality. Each game was life or dead for argentina. They hated losing. They were really warriors.
To whomever who is saying that USA 2004 team was not a good team, read the names of players in USA team and the players in Argentina team. The names of players in USA 2004 team are well known to you while the only players you know from Argentina 2004 team are Ginobili and Scola. The rest are some names you have never heard of. And this team defeated all those great names. Instead of bragging, you should accept defeat and admire their game. Probable if the USA 2014 team played against Argentina 2004 team, they would also have a hard time playing against the Argentinians.
Abdulla Masud you were right in pointing out that the USA team of 2004 was not necessarily a no name team. However, I feel you have neglected a number of reasons why the most recent USA teams would have flattened Argentina of 2004. First of all, I'm not even sure they played the best USA team possible in 04 because numerous players did not want to risk injuries. For example, many of these big name players with the exception Duncan were not yet full fledged stars. For example, Anthony and Wade were much better in the latter part of the 2000s than earlier, Lebron and Bosh were both young and less disciplined, and for the most part I thought that this USA team was lacking in their teamwork. Moreover, Shaq in his prime and Kobe neglected to play. These were players that would have shaken the Argentinian defense. All in all these issues that plagued the 04 team are reasons why I think it is silly to equate this 04 team to later USA squads. Later in 2008, Argentina lost because players from 04 were more disciplined, and other additions such as Howard and a more disciplined Kobe contributed to the demise of the Argentinians. Lastly, I think you might have an argument that the 2008 or 2010 team would face a challenge in overcoming this Argentinian team, but the 2014 team, NO WAY!! In spite of not having as many big name players in the NBA, harden, Rose, and Curry demolished teams. That team won by an average of 30 points in a tournament with other nations bringing most of their best players. Furthermore, Harden would have easily penetrated the paint and demolished the Argentinian defense. No one on that team could have ever guarded him. Curry would also make plenty of shots outside of the 3 point line. Additionally, the defensive play of the 2008 and 2014 was at much higher level of aggressiveness than the 2004 Argentina team. Also, what do you mean Scola? I totally respect manu ginobili, but Scola?!?! Seriously?!?! He's been a bench player on an Average NBA team. I do respect this Argentinian performance, but there is little merit in equating this team to much stronger USA teams that played within the last couple years.
I cry every time I re-watch this match...we are not getting a team like this in at least another 50 years, and I'm happy to have been alive to see Argentina beat an actual USA Dream Team, and taking the gold.
No excuses, they lost, Argentina played way better. But people need to stop disrespecting the guys that competed here. Most of the original Team USA from 2003 who beat Argentina and won Gold in the "Tournament of the Americas" chickened out of the Olympics because of terrorist scares.
There are reasons for everything that happens in life. The USA team was clearly dominant in terms of talent and experience, so people find it interesting to analyze why they lost THREE GAMES that year. I watched every game. It was a team with no chemistry. Iverson was forcing shot after shot and they were always pouting between each other. It doesn't matter how much talent you have on the same team; if players don't play well together they're going to lose. Iverson had a lot to do with it. He's a one-man show who has never come close to winning any championship. When they announced that he was playing that year my first reaction was, Uh oh, this just might be the year they go down. And sure enough, they did.
exactly me too, the seeds to me were planted when they lost to Puerto Rico, and i thought they would lose to greece but they did not thank goodness. But this why i dont believe in sendingca bunch of college players to the olympics. i GUARANTEE you, you send those college players on this team, they would have gotten destroyed, and not even qualify for medal cause competition got better and other countries are using their best euroleague mvp players who are PRO. Just think if the USA sent college players in the next olympics, and did not do good, the fans will be BEGGING to bring back the nba players.
Even Americans were cheering Argentina. Our American players, and more so our American basketball association/industry, were way too arrogant and cocky thinking that all they had to do was just show up to grab their golds. They deserved to lose.
Today's lesson: how to play basketball, by Argentina's national team. Ginobili, Scola, Nocioni, Oberto, Hermann, Delfino, Sanchez, Montecchia, Sconochini, Wolkowyski, such a great team, in that time Manu Ginobili was probably the best player in the world.
@@ferdinandborromeo927 So far we do know Argentina is going to end on top of USA in the ranking of 2019 World Cup being played these days, the same as 2002 WC or 2006 WC.
For those uninformed viewers arguing that this might have been a "lucky win" for Argentina (whatever that could really mean in a basketball game where they lead the score for most part of the game and ended up with an 8-point final difference), don´t forget that these guys were almost the same argentinian players that gave the US their first loss to a team entirely composed by NBA stars too, in 2002 at Indianapolis, playing for the World Cup. For the US basketball fans, I don´t see the need to make a big fuss about it, blaming so hard to the US guys who lost. The so-called "Golden Generation" of Argentina was indeed in its prime, being the world´s best team in that period of time and they proved so, as I said, not only in this tournament taking home the gold medal, but also 2 years before crediting the first victory ever against a US team composed by NBA stars 100%; lead by Ginobili who also won an NBA ring those years, having a major role in the Spurs himself. As someone said over the comment section, even nowadays US team would have some trouble facing this 2004 Argentinian team. After that not only Argentina lost its level because of the retirement of this one-of-a-kind players for the Country who were never replaced by equally talented newcomers, but also US recovered and got back to their usual dominance on this game, which existed previously and persists until now.
For all its worth, no country in the Universe can defeat us 4 out of 7 games, guaranteed, An occasional win does not constitute Supremacy,,,wake up from y’all’s dream back to the real world,,,,entiended?
@@rafaellopez9498 Limit yourself to answer these questions: 1) What has "4 out 7" to do with Olympic basketball where you get eliminated in one game? 2) Who said anything about "supremacy"? 3) How is "occasional" a win when this team (2002-2004) was actually beating US with a full NBA roster for the 2nd time in 2 years?
@@GabrielNardinMusic We are the Champions again, we lose sometimes because we have to make it a little interesting, give other countries false hope and aspirations,,,we like that,,,!!!!! That’s what we do kiddd,,,☮️
@@rafaellopez9498 Congratulations for the deserved win, I saw the match. Durant was great. Nevertheless, you did not answered any of my questions seriously.
Argentinians are crazy like us Greeks, we both go bankrupted every now and then but we have fighting spirit and pride for our countries.... That's we both maneged to beat the US in 2004 olympics and in the mundobasket of 2006!
Lmao how can I be racist when Asian is not even a race. Do you know that Asian have many skin color? Brown skin to yellow skin asian. You just got burn son!HHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!
Usa finally learned and took foreign teams seriously? Lmao bro, hell no, ever since this day, they've been stepping on foreign teams like ants. The only reason Usa even competes is to put on a show for the world...
The USA was getting bored dominating the world at this sport. So, alot of our best players did not go. If we send Jason Kidd, KG, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant, Shaq, Karl Malone, Ray Allen etc, these 2004 Olympics would have been another blowout summer for the USA. Unfortunately, our best were not concerned enough anymore with winning gold for the country.
+Cool Man That's cockiness and overconfidence. In any sport, your goal obviously is TO WIN. They thought international basketball was like a walk in the park, Ever since that game they took it a little more seriously and won every game since. But yes indeed, if Kobe, Shaq, Malone, T-mac and Kidd all played this would've been a blow out. I mean, it wasn't like the worst team we could've sent. There was Wade, Lebron, Duncan, Stoudemire, etc.
Honestly manu is one of the greatest finishers and scorers of all time. Like in this video he basically took on the nba’s best men and helped his Argentina 🇦🇷 team to victory over all them along with his team. But I mean to upset the nba USA 🇺🇸 basketball like that is hard and it should should you with out any doubt that he deserves more recognition as a 4 time nba champ and Olympic champion. And his spurs seasons are always over 50+ wins.
Respect to Argentina...they played awesome and were on another level chemistry wise. That being said, this US team was an embarrassment, we should have played our best players instead of being led by greedy ball hogs like Iverson and Marbury.
Argentina had a ridiculously good team in 2004. They had been dominating FIBA basketball for about 18 months before the Olympics. Of course, the USA thought they'd win regardless, once they had their best team on the court, during Olympic year, but they really underestimated how good Argentina actually were
Argentina was a better team because they had Ginobili. He was the best player in the world at that time. He is vastly underrated, under appreciated and under used in NBA because he is not an American. NBA don't want promote a foreign player as a super star because it is not good for marketing.
+James Blunt Not sure about the best player statement, but their first Team: Ginobili, Nocioni, Delfino, Scola and Oberto was probably the best all around for defense and shooting.
Wtf. This was an Old comment, but have you heard of a guy named Kobe Bryant. I know, he is not well known, but that dude Kobe Bryant played some pretty good basketball from what I've seen
+fitofito1001 Ginobili will be in the hall of fame. i don't know about vastly anything.. he's still playing today because he benefits from playing with Duncan who is a top 10 basketball player of all time... I will say Manu was a monster... I put him in that Ray allen category... just a hair below Kobe and T-Mac
We had: Iverson, Duncan, LeBron, Carmelo, Amar´e and D-Wade. No excuses. We struggled against legendary Argentina, the best south american team behind Brazil 63-65 and Brazil 87.
+MarGOATes Huertas Not when the team is literally all NBA players. Was Argentina NBA Caliber 1 through 15? USA was and still lost. No excuses. Excuses are weak an unamerican anyway.
+ChachinAKAChino There's plenty of excuses all the people you mentioned were rookies at the time, also are best players for the current time didn't participate (same as this year, but it looks like that won't matter).
such a good passing team , ahead of its time... manu just retired yesterday from NBA. he should be in hall of fame for his stats and for this game. you never know. legend either way
geobulg When teams play against USA, I believe they have extra motivation. In this world cup if Spain has that type of motivation, with the skill level they have, they can stop USA. Still though, USA is the favourite.
Its true that some All stars were missing but: PPG in NBA 2003-2004 season: Iverson 27.6 Duncan 22.3 Anthony 21.0 James 20.9 Stoudemire 20.6 Marbury 19.8 Marion 19.0 Jefferson 18.5 Odom 17.1 Wade 16.2 Boozer 15.5 (11.4 RPG) Okafor (not in Nba at the time, 15.1 season 2004-2005)
WITH THE POSTER to top it off! Goddamn, what a game from the Argentinians! Absolutely dialed-in and nothing selfish. Manu is the greatest Argentinian of all-time imo but is Luis Scola #2? 5 olympics and a gold medal!
IMHO, my TOP 3 list of victories over USA: - Brazil: Oscar (87) - Argentina: Ginobli (04) - Greece: Spanoulis (06) The USA Team is the best, the greatest, the benchmark, win them is a remarkable achievement.
Why are fans of the USA making excuses? They had Duncan, Iverson, Marbury and many other superstars. Oh, wait. They remember other players that didn't go and they say "we haven't lost since 2006" but they don't say that other teams don't have all their players either because NBA teams don't let them play in the World Championships or in the Olympics. So, don't make excuses, you aren't the only ones with all the players. Besides that, The Usa was beaten by Argentina TWICE in 2002 and 2004, Yugoslavia, Spain, Puerto Rico, Greece, Lithuania.
And I forgot to say that most of these Argentinians have played in the NBA. And some others like Montecchia refused to play for the Spurs and prefered staying in his country.
