Arguing with Uncle Grumpy and His Nikon D850 

"This! This is the best picture this camera has ever taken!" -"Oh? ... Let's put a card into it then." "...."

It's always wonderful to watch professionals at work displaying their knowledge and skill with delicate instruments. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case in this video. Love these videos with Adam, keep them coming.

You guys are the Laurel and Hardy of YT photographers. Love these collab vids.

It's great to see how little Uncle Grumpy needs to know about his camera and still be International Landscape Photographer of the Year! There is hope for us all. :-)

I feel Grumpy's pain with needing glasses to focus.

Gavin and Uncle Grumpy, the Stan and Ollie of landscape photography. You two could start a war in an empty room! And like the others say, back button focus will save you some trouble.

Congrats to Adam on winning landscape photographer of the year recently.

Thanks for recognising that some of us auld fellas don't have the best eyes and struggle with making sure things are in focus.

You two, you can turn a crappy day, into 17 minutes of shear horror :-D - fantastic video.

Your moderately filthy sense of humor is the reason this is one of my favorite channels. Great balance of humor and formal photography content.

16 minutes of shear joy, entertainment, fun, and then some, brilliant, thanks guys.

This is the best! You guys and your banter is truly the best.

The two of you together are priceless.

Best day was when I was introduced to your channel. Now I avidly await all of your new videos knowing that I will not only be entertained but will also learn a thing or two. Now to keep saving my pennies so I might attend one of your workshops in the future.

You could always set up back button focus, then when you use autofocus it stays locked when you take your image until you press the bbf again

You gents are great together! Even managed to take a picture...

Totally enjoyed watching this! You guys are great together and so fun to watch! Your workshop filled up fast! Cheers guys!

Favorite vlog... keep it up Gavin. An absolutely juicy mix of humor & education!

I don’t know why, but this is one of the best videos on RU-vid! Froth on lads

What a funny video to watch after a hard day at work! Mr. Juicy and Uncle Grumpy arguing over a Nikon :-)! Great stuff, you just have to make more of these vids!

Love these videos you do together.

Another great and informative video. You two are the absolute tops!

You guys are great together, super fun to watch! Keep it up

Gavin has the best laugh. Keeps me smiling 👍

Fantastic video! Brilliant chemistry between you two.

That was a very informative video but a complete giggle too. Awesome.

Great work as usual guys love your work entertaining and technically useful…as always Cheers

My favorite Photographers! You guys are are Awesome! Thanks for another entertaining and educational video!

Only recently found your channel but I binge watch all your videos. Great fun to watch and also learn along the way. I look forward to your next one. Also Adam Gibbs is genius you two have great chemistry together.

Always look forward to the Gavin and Adam's comedy show

You guys are hilarious. I really enjoy your interactions and your sense of humor!

Thoroughly enjoyable video's, great laugh's but more importantly great information. By far and away the best double act in photography.

I really enjoy your videos...you and Adam work wonderfully together!

As per usual very entertaining. You guys are hilarious together.... Brilliant!

Adam Gibbs is awesome .You two are great.Keep having fun...

Flippy screen - so technical! Love it.

Excellent - enjoyable and informative as ever.

Love this kind of videos...uncle grumpy is so great guy ...

With witty teachers, even the technique of using camera is funny and interesting. 👍 👏 Thank you Gavin and Adam 🙏 All the best from Mississauga, ON 🇨🇦

Good grief that was hilarious. . . Great episode Gavin (and Adam)!

Brilliant guys!! Nice of uncle grumpy to lend you his gear, after all he is a star!! 🇬🇧🇨🇦🇬🇧

Great video 😁 I really love your guys channel 😀👍 Always fun to watch and learn from! Motivates me to go shoot more so thank you!

I could never go on a workshop with you two...I would be absolutely "creased" (doubled over laughing) the whole time...

My understanding waas that the best quality was from the native ISO which on the D850 is 64, Li is an electronically adjusted ISO same as 100 etc.

"You've let me down with your length" 😂 If Adam hadn't bought the 'cheap' f/4 and gone for f/2.8 he could have won you over with his girth 😂 Sorry, I'll get my coat 🚖

you 2 are great.. always a good laugh

This is too funny you two are great together!

love your videos!!! you guys are hilarious!!

Love your humour mate! You deserve more subs for sure.

You two are great together! I lol so hard!

Great video Gavin, I would love to see this location with flowing water, it must be impressive. It was fascinating to see and hear you two chat about the D850. There were some interesting points you raised. With my D850, I have back button focusing set up so I can use both approaches (manual and autofocus) without the need to switch a dial and I have the back dial set to punch in to check focus. I believe 64 is the lowest native ISO for the sensor, 'L' or low uses software to simulate a lower ISO however you may lose some dynamic range, which with the image you took, probably didn't matter. Thanks for sharing!

Uncle Grumpy's glasses are just bonkers!!

Thanks Gavin. I have wondered about that L1 setting. Good advice about creating your own tests with your gear.

that was funny, could watch this kind of stuff every day 😀

How did these two British comedians end up in Canada? Love the way you guys make a tutorial fun!

😂 I love it you have a mouth just like me🤣 great video once again guys!

I like your sense of humor, and the shuttersuond must be perfect......it is a soundmodul🤣🤣🤣😉👍

I really enjoy your channel and Uncle Grumpy's! Great info today! I shoot Nikon. The two of you make a great team !

Auto focus with back button focus ftw :) Best of both worlds :D Another enjoyable video lads

Lol you guys are hilarious together. Poor uncle grumpy looking nervously protective of his precious. I use a Canon, I always thought that the mirror was locked up when live mode was off and so it clicks real fast and doesn't shake while taking the shot. Whereas if my live view was on and I took the shot it would take it slower. Very funny and informative, thank you. 😊

One of those videos that I’ll need to watch again just for the laughs. You make a good point though about trying things out just to see what works and what doesn’t. I have the D810 and I’ve never gone below ISO 64 because I have read that image quality suffers. Looks like I need to try it just to see for myself. Thanks for the tips and the laughs Gavin. You guys rock!

That lens wipe is really getting some use. Great video, thanks guys.

Good to see you shooting Nikon!!

Have the same problem as Adam, need reading glasses, always had trouble getting tack sharp pics. Then I discovered BBF ( back button focus) Best thing since sliced bread !!!! Great for solving focus issues. ✅👍🏼 Great video, as always 🙏✅👍🏼😊

In live view you have the opportunity to use Silent mode, which allows you to take pictures completely without shaking the camera. Use this with the remote trigger and you are safe and the images will be razor sharp 😁

As an owner of Nikon DSLR I thank you for this video! Great stuff!

Love back button focus. What I would really love is a d850 now. Love u guys when u get together. Good info.

Ahh, Mr Juicy and Uncle Grumpy with coffee in hand, off to start my day :-)

Great video Gavin and helpful tips as I’m also a NIKON user

I chose to see your video before Thomas's.. 2 mins in & I see Adam dabbing... I think I made the right choice.. 😁

Hardcastle and Gibbs, sounds like a British detective show

I've used Olympus, Fuji and Sony kit and found the focus assist / peaking to be 'off' on all of them. So a big thanks to you guys, I had been thinking it was me.

Hi Gavin & Adam comedy gold yet again Juicy content , of the dark dampness of wet moss , their was a difference once you turned your eyelids inside out & squinted ha ha . Have you both ever though of going on stage . Good as always guys

I binge watched ALL of your videos, now what ? :)

Programming your AE-L/AF-L button to back button focus, and the OK button to toggle in and out of 100% mag simplifies life for those of us with subpar eyes and therefore use autofocus. With the high quality screen of the D750, like the 850, I've become a Live View believer for landscape imaging. Thank you for my weekly or twice weekly dose of photo laughs, you guys are fun!

Great fun! I've got mine setup for back button focus, if I auto-focus then forget to switch over to manual the focus still stays where I put it. Also less likely to damage anything by forgetting to turn auto off on the camera body when using some screw drive lenses.

What an interesting pair of glasses on Adam. I've never seen the two lenses separate in that fashion before (2:09).

Great banter as expected from you two! Great shirts you got selling, except I would of thought they would have the infamous 'window trademark' along with"Juicy!" :D

Gavin, my understanding is that ISO 64 is the native ISO for that sensor, and thus highest quality. The lower ISO is achieved through Nikon's interpolation algorithm, and though it may appear sharper, you could do the same with 64 image by manipulating sharpness and contrast in Lightroom. This same principal applies to expanded ISO settings. The sensors is not more sensitive, the camera simply runs the data through a different algorithm. So I'm led to believe by those far more informed by me.

Hilarious, the Abbot and Costello of YT photography! I also shoot with a D850 and just started using the L1 ISO setting (which I believe is meant to indicate 1 stop lower sensor gain than the 64. The camera also has a L.7 and L.3. If I forget my remote release, I set the self timer to 10 sec to let the tripod settle down. Thanks for the belly laugh and some good information in the process. Cheers from BC

You 2 guys crack me up. Would love to spend a day in the field with you it would be a hoot 😂

Very nice video. Thanks! :)

I dunno, reconsidering that June workshop I booked with you two as instructors after seeing this. Just kidding, can't wait! ;-)

I didn't understand what happened but I enjoyed watching it ♥️

Loved the subtle not subtle Camera Conspercies call out.

Shits way better than a iPhone X that I use to shoot my photos lol. Thank you for uploading another great video with grumpysaurus

A collaboration with you two and Camera Conspiracies would be epic funny.

I think I stay with my A7! Help from the viewers, I enjoyed the video. I learned a little and had fun watching you two. Next time give Uncle Grumpy the Sony to work with. Bring him over to the dark side, no mirror! LOL

You can also assign the AF only to the AF-on button and not on the shutter release, so you can auto-focus and then it doesn't change when you take shots. This has the advantage that you can't forget to turn the AF back on when you net time want to refocus and don't notice that it actually didn't focus because it was still on manual

Love you two and the D850! It was sort of an impulse buy for me and the 2nd best impulse buy I ever made. The 1st?.............................................. But seriously. Love watching both of your youtubes. I even left Thomas Heaton for you two. (Kinda. I am saving Heaton for a good binge)

You guys crack me up! You need to go on the road (again...!)

Great video. Keep up the good work chaps. :-) Just a couple of things though. I think it has been said below, but the lowest numbered ISO in all cameras are normally where the highest quality for noise and dynamic range are, though the D850 seems to have pretty similar DR on the 'Lo' settings to ISO 64. The timer should be able to be set to 10 seconds in the menu if that is preferable. And I would always use a remote above the Timer if I have it with me. :-) The camera should be more accurate to focus in Liveview as it is using the contrast detection, which though slower to focus, is more accurate. It is normally better than my old eyes. I always magnify the area of focus to fill the the LCD. The focus point fills the whole screen, and I either touch to focus or use the AF On button and it is a bit easier to see that is has got it right by the box turning green, and the scene hopefully looking sharp. ;-) lol

Did I see a camera conspiracies motion when the flippy screen was mentioned?

Great video guys, I'm a d500 new user, so I'll have to play with those low iso options sometime. Thanks

Funny stuff from 'The Tetley Twins" as always Gavin...without trying to sound too much like a geeky nerd ! (but I do have a Nikon D810) you can tell Dr Grumps that he can easily change his shutter delay time to 5, 10 or 20 seconds in the Custom Settings menu under Timers/Self Timer ..and I have found the same on my 70-200mm f2.8 that 2 secs often not enough..I use 5 secs and that seems to work but if he also uses Live View zoomed in when he's shooting slow exposures you can see the vibration slow (and of course that bloody great hefty mirror is taken out of the equation) and then press the shutter which together with it's 5 sec delay is usually sufficient to prevent tears before bedtime !! ...unless its windy of course in which case you just give up and use your iPhone !! I could go Ubernerd on the native iso64 vs L0.3/7/1 etc but my understanding is that the "L's" basically just expose to the right more etc then drag it back in camera but I see BisonFlyer24 below has answered it ...BTW did you notice Gavin that despite ALL that live viewing and general fannying around there was LOADS of battery life left !!?? just saying !

Even though I am a Dieing breed of Pentaxiona I really enjoyed the video. fairplay lads.

Adam, just noticed your glasses, very smart 👍

ISO L1 without focus peaking, while using auto focus with back button focus gives me the sharpest, images with less noise in my D850 as well. I love my D850 and I was excited about the focus peaking function but I found it to be far less than optimal.

Gavin, Sony 100% battery life 42 mins, that's okay, you could squeeze another 8 mins out of them if you stuff them down the front of your troosers, your haw maws --> (_)) will keep them nice and toastie, buy a pair of swimming shorts with the small pocket in the waist band, they will doubly useful seeing as you spend a fair amount of time falling in the water. Or if you are not that adventurous, when shooting in cold temperatures buy the small gel hand warmers, stick the batteries along side them in your backpack, unless you want to try both Gel and Batteries down the front of your troosers and become the Evel Knievel of the photography world.... great video again Gav.

I use back button focus so my focus does not change with shutter. You guys are funny.