As for the affair, I can’t see it lasting. I think it was the excitement that they were sneaking around, wearing the matching necklaces, being around each other in front of the group knowing they’re scumbags and no one knew. IMO it was the thrill.
She also left a very toxic abusive relationship. Awful. Poor woman had no self love or confidence with her ex-fiancé moving on so quickly. She made a very poor choice. Lala is also a hypocrite
@@Tarotjackpot agree a toxic relationship with James but she's not 'poor' anything. She's emotionally stunted, lacks self esteem but she knew EXACTLY whta she was doing but obviously has some kind of psychology problem not to recognise the impact of her repeated behaviours in friendships. She'll be the one impacted long term her reputation in tatters. Him? He'll be a grubby, sad and lonely git. Everyone will mature and grow. He won't.
I’m thinking he meant it as a reference to what people call Princess Diana’s “revenge dress” which was a hot dress that she wore the first time she went out after her and Prince Charles split I believe
I've never liked anybody saying a revenge dress it just didn't sound right to me like you said it sounds like they care too much. And really is the other person going to give a s***
Andy’s FACE at 9:30 mark is HILARIOUS. He’s like looking at Schwartz like a pitiful lost puppy. After watching this season so far I agree w Lala and Katie and everyone else, Schwartz has NO backbone, he stands for nothing, he’s always Switzerland, he’s a sloppy mess and I’m over it.
Raquel it seems sleeps with anyone who pays attention to her. She has no self worth, and she shouldn't due to her callous behavior! Beautiful Ariana..You can do so MUCH BETTER !
I just knew too long ago especially when he was cheating on Kristen w/Ariana & Kristen was cheating w/Jax too....Ariana's whole demeanor towards Kristen was exactly telling...He hated a woman, especially Stassi, doing well and Ariana seemed like she wanted to grow as a person both emotionally and professionally... IT was just a matter of time before sh** hit the fan...I felt like it was extremely interesting how he COMPLETELY hated Katie & Stassi.... IT was seriously telling of the types of person that he was.
It was an open secret. Ariana probably didn't think he would cheat on her but he did. If he was making coffees for Ariana why is he saying that he had broken up with her. If u were planning to break up or already told her that u want to break up why would u make coffee and try. So he clearly wanted both. He just didnt care. If he didn't get found out he would still be with Ariana. Cheaters want both.
..a so called air headed “friend”. Who would have guessed that!? I’m sure she lost what little respect she had for him once she found that video. He’s clearly full of crap about Arianna refusing to be broken up with! Has anyone ever heard of someone who stayed in a relationship for that reason?! There’d be a lot of people still together if you could refuse to let someone break up with you. Ridiculous of Tom to think that would fly with anyone. 🙄
They don't know how stupid they sound he's talking about how he was trying to break up with her and yet he was getting ready to fertilize her eggs with his sperm. That doesn't sound like you're trying to break up with somebody to me
Schwartz is a coward. He wants to look like the good guy but his actions toward Katie the last few episodes has shown me his true colors. Sandoval probably has major dirt on him too!
I'm so over Tom's excuses for having an affair!! I seen dishonest Tom since season 1. I'm actually surprised I was right about him from the start. Maybe I'm not that great of a judge of character compared to Tom not having that good of a game or poker face. My suspicions were settled by the miami girl. Lol who's gonna fly out from florida over a lie. They could have used anyone close to home but between Jax letting things slip Tom checking him telling him stop selling us out and Kristen's great detective work I made my mind up seasons ago this 3 guys were cheaters. At least Jax admitted it. They buried him. They all turned on Jax but seriously most of them were guilty of the same it's just Jax came clean. I hope Jax is enjoying his validation now. Jax you are vindicated . Not for cheating but for having Tom Sandervol drag your name through mud , acting so superior trying to grab that #1 guy in the group spot and knowing all along he did the same thing. You are vindicated Jax for taking that punishment for your deeds alone instead of outting Tom and dragging him down with you. That's where I can now respect Jax. He knew what Tom did but took responsibility for his own actions. JAX DID NOT EXCUSE HIS BEHAVIOR LIKE TOM IS DOING NOR DID HE TRY AND BLAME IT ON ANYONE OTHER THAN HIMSELF UNLIKE TOM IS DOING TRYING TO BLAME ARIANA FOR HER LACK OF INTIMACY. This is another reason why tom will never be the #1 guy. Hes a coward, a liar and a cheat, not to mention an egomaniac!
Oh lala felt dirty with being associated with people like that. Yet she didn’t feel dirty when she was cheating with James or her now ex husband as the mistress
Didn't Tom cheat on Kristen w/ Ariana...? And now Tom cheated on Ariana w/ Raquel. So why did Ariana even bother to date Tom in the first place...? 🙃 Clearly he's still a cheater...
Yes and I remember everyone was acting like Kristen was the crazy one including Ariana and Lisa Vanderpump..SMH. karma got her and now she wants to act like a victim too
Once a cheater, always a cheater. Leopards don't change their spots. I have never liked sandoval. He's always acted like a know it all. Ariana is much better off without him. Good luck to her.
I thought they had an open relationship. Ariana was very open about being bisexual. And let’s not forget Lala and Ariana had a happy meal in the back seat of the car while Tom was driving.
Just asking why you say the incident with Layla and Ariana would not constitute an open relationship? Tom was right there when it happened with full knowledge.
Either Tom doesn't know how old he really is or Google has his age wrong because online it says he's born in 1983 which means he is turning 40 this coming July
Lalas hate for Raquel is weird. She's strangely obsessed with her and always has been since Raquel started dating James. Makes me think that Lala still has feelings for James and was jealous that he wanted to marry Raquel not her.
Not SO weird, really. Look at the hookup in Sandovols back seat with Ariana! I think LaLa would like to hook up with Rachel, the same way! Just my thought!
I feel like Ariana was over the relationship too but didn’t want to admit it or was okay staying so that they could continue with the brand/ lifestyle they built. Their lives were so separate by that time. Not saying Sandoval was right whatsoever BUT I think she was probably glad for the split and is okay with making Tom look like the ultimate bad guy when she was secretly over it too. Just my opinion.
Yeah I feel like she was totally over the relationship too. I find it ironic Lala is commenting about their affair, given her history and refusal to take responsibility for her actions. Also Schwartz is such a bad liar, he’s always been so passive about cheating.
Yes because you always tell a woman that you're going to fertilize her eggs with your sperm when you're trying to break up with them right LOL and after listening to the Howie Mandel interview if I was his wife I'd be checking his phone.
Does lala forget she slept with James while him & raquel were together & how she has admitted she knew Randall was married when she got with him which is why she wouldn’t say his name
That’s true,but she still wasn’t best buddies with their wife/gf. Still sleazy behaviour, but even LaLa follows girl code it seems, and that and the length of time it went on (and while Arianna was asleep in the house!) makes things very different and much worse with Tom and Rachel.
I'm new to VPR but yes! I don't understand how Lala has such a fan base (does she??) when she seems like a giant hypocrite to me. She's such a victim when her husband is the one cheating, but she also cheated. And she and Ariana hooked up but that's ok cause it's 2 women? 🙄
Tom Sandoval is the biggest narcissist he would rip it hard, everybody else’s relationship and always had something to say. I don’t believe one word he says he’s really disgusting and very full of himself. I really don’t know if I’m gonna watch it is continually on the show.
Wasn’t Sheena having an affair with Brandy’s husband when they were married, so I think she’s not want to talk because that happened in the housewives of Beverly Hills so before you clean other peoples closet, remember what you did not including Tom was with Christie to, and she was flirting to so I think it’s just karma
they weren't friends of the wives,of these,men like Rachel Raquel was sleeping,over holidays etc..and in Lala's case she was lied to like many many men do,..
Wasn’t that 17yrs ago, and didn’t he tell her and other girls he cheated with he was broken up too? Quit beating a dead horse. The same thing might happen to you some day…karma has a way of teaching people.
Which? Tom and Arianna? There are a lot of marriages that are a lot less happy, and that last far fewer years. Regardless, you end things before cheating for 8 months under your partner’s nose! Quit excusing his disgusting behaviour! 🤮
Arianna's dress is beautiful, but revenge, I don't think so because she did not want Tom. He found love in the arms of another woman. Did he do it wrong..yes but she had no love for him. They were like roommates
Scheena was a mistress & ruined a family & marriage. LaLa was a mistress and ruined a family & marriage as well. Tom cheated on what’s her face with Ariana. Oh! Also James cheated on Rachel with LaLa. They have zero room to talk!!!!
My ex of 8years told everyone he was in an Open Relationship, I had no clue, he told me i was his Forever Love. So when he toldme he had fallen in Love with someone else, I was BLINDSIDED! Didn't see it coming at all, awful shock, traumatic. He made me homeless. He moved his nnew lover into our home so i had to leave. He took all my money [i paid rent] and my best years, also knocked me off the property ladder. I could have taken him to court [as his common law wife] but i knew it would get nasty and i couldn't face it, so i left with nothing, ended up back in my parents' spare room :( i feel like the loser of the family.
Araina has some nerve she let lala eat her cat while with tom? She never wanted children or to get married. So when someone come along and give him what he was missing dont get mad. Im not buying this bull.
Lala may be a loyal BF, but she ran around with a married man and has no room to talk . C'mon, they are all effing hypocrites. This was all created for a story line to save the show.
I think Raquel and Brock did fool around a little. In a vlog of Scheanas they were together for hours alone “getting pizza” Scheana has never been the one to admit to any issues in a relationship unless it’s over.
I don't think Tom anything worse than most them on the show have done but for some reason is being treated like he did. I don't agree with the cheating at all but by the sound of it their relationship should've ended along time ago but the right way. Thats why people like Tom Schwartz because he is more real than any of them. I mean media training? He is a loyal friend to Sandoval you cannot fault him for that.
He’s toxic: ADHD coupled with something else that he needs to address. My life was as if I was with a stranger as well, I later learned he’s a narcissist with PTSD with a cocaine addiction. So no Tom, you don’t deserve any sympathy at all.
So I'm new to VPR, but Lala seems like a total hypocrit to me. She slept with Raquel's man, yet goes after her so hard for cheating? And Lala's husband cheated on her and she plays the victim so hard about that, yet she's also had her own affairs so...?
Let's not forget how lala was giving blowjob's to men for rides on private jets and had a baby with a man because she was looking for a sugar daddy to take care of her......she is the last one who should be making any comments about anyone and their relationships...
Nobody who loves someone, puts her in that position even if her poor judgment says otherwise. He should have been the grownup. Raquel is naive. Insecure. Pageant girls are different.
I wonder how much of Ton’s feelings fut Raquel are motivated by the fact that Raquel is by far the wealthiest cast member- besides Lisa. Tom is very ambitious.
It’s not the affair… seriously? You are incapable of understanding the difference between this situation and any of the other “affairs” in that group?! If so, I’m not going to waste my time explaining it to you. Read some other posts and maybe you’ll get that “eureka” moment, because it’s been explained often and clearly in online posts. 🙄
@@evereden2642 Thanks ... I got "IT" from the jump; and, certainly this specific affair is far and away much different than previous trysts on Vanderpump Rules. More to the point - is HOW this affair had, at one point, been deemed "newsworthy" on CNN?!? Again, the premise at how shocking it's been that Tom & Raquel had an affair, is, as if - they are the only people on the planet whom have ever behaved this way --- THAT, most specifically was MY point ... 🙃
@@ShellyBomb While I agree it’s kind of sad that it became CNN worthy, but I think that’s a reflection on how fast it spread from the Bravo world and a whole slew of new viewers started getting familiarized with VPR. Don’t kid yourself, the reason we are seeing this story everywhere in the news, and to the extent it is, is because that’s what people are talking about in social media and online forums. News companies, like advertisers pay for this information and the algorithms that collect it and what you see on the news reflects what is being talked about, because they want to appeal to the largest demographic. It’s sad I agree, but everything seems to be about money these days, instead of integrity. Look at the texts that came out in the Dominion lawsuit discovery? Those delivering the “news” knew they were lying, and reporting what their viewed wanted to hear. I’ll take the news that only had a one day story on VPR. Besides, not everyone has time to come here or social media, but might still watch Bravo shows, so it’s I’m sure some of their audience was interested. At least it didn’t involve more people, especially children being shot. I’m getting so I have to take days off watching the news now and then.
Whatever the fight that required security involved will leak early or not; I feel 100% that it included Schwartz. He's the unexpected half of it. Maybe Brock because Sheena and Rachel in NYC if someone tried to blame her.
They already talked about it in the Andy Cohen aftershow. It was between scheana and raquel/Rachel. Raquel even tried pressing charges on scheana for the said incident, then dropped the charges because she knew they were bogos
I pray to GOD he didn’t actually fertilize Ariana’s eggs!!!! That would be the ultimate betrayal worse than anything else bc he was ALREADY w Rachel at that time. Just terrible he’s a terrible human being!!
Raquel and Sandoval are scum for what they’ve done and there’s no excuse for betraying Ariana. However, everyone needs to STOP trashing Swartz for continuing to be Sandoval’s friend. Also, everyone, especially the females on the show, needs to listen to LVP and STOP trashing/bullying Raquel. Again, there’s no excuse for what she did, but the females on the show are gonna drive Raquel to attempt suicide imo. I truly hope I’m wrong but if I’m not, how are they gonna feel if she attempts it and/or succeeds?!
Even if he ends up with Raquel, he’ll cheat again; if he and Arianna were on the rocks then break up crisp & clean then start fresh. Raquel is either a deer in headlights (naive) or just addicted to false attention because why would you want to put yourself in that position … why hurt your girlfriend like that? Was it worth it? (no). I’m certain Arianna will find true happiness again (soon). Lala cheated with James and was with Randall for his money; best thing that happened out of that relationship was Ocean. First world problems … like Khloe said to Kim after she lost her diamond earring … there are people dying in this world. Show is good for entertainment but it’s definitely not a reality to aspire to. Wishing everyone a great year ahead ❤️✨
Tom Schwartz is not a flip flop friend, he is still going to ride with his friend even though he doesn't agree with his behaviour. Also, the whole world doesn't hate Tom. Schaena seems to forget how she was introduced to us, she was a MISTRESS to a married man. La La was also a mistress. In fact didn't she have a baby by a married man. I think we can spare the sanctimonious speech from a former mistress.
I think the worst part of this was that it was that Raquel went for her bestfriends man, they are all in the same circle. Ariana was ALWAYS there for raquel. I honestly think Raquel is more disgusting than Tom. I know Tom was the one in the relationship - but honestly, men/women come and go. but friends? they are supposed to be ride or dies. Especially how amazing ariana was to her and how Raquel acted like she was a ride or die.
Hey Lala was it gross when you were sleeping with a married man for a range rover, did it leave you feeling dirty?? Stop dragging others when you had no regard for Randall's ex and his kids when you were skirting around with him. You sold out for fame, cars, houses, and staff but Tom's affair left YOU felling dirty. You may need to look at yourself before you attack others!
All these people need to shut up everyone in that show cheats! Ariana should’ve saw it coming. She lost him the way she got him. And Lala is a cheater and she has been the mistress!! Kristen, lala, Tom, schena, ect all of them have cheated!!! These people need to stop criticizing! They need to shut up! And stop criticizing them and acting like there Angels!! I’m not saying cheating is okay but they are no one to talk!!
Talk about dragging this Story out for ever Bravo and for what .The money of course it’s obvious at this point By time the actual deed plays out on the Bravo channel we all will be so delirious of it.….Move on
lala and scheana needs to worry about there own lives and scheana needs to watch whats happen in her own home before she loses this husband cause when she get unfocused she tends to lose her man and for the record brock left his family and found her so never ever believe it cant happen to you, Lala needs to find a man or a woman andd get some help today for that house she bought maybe she should start taking some new boat trips and find herself another sugar daddy
I agree; I don't like wicked 🧙♀️ Schena, she needs a big chunk of her medicine. What she did was out of spite to hurt Katie. Katie should never trust her.
It’s eventually important that Ariana takes the time to evaluate herself, despite this mess that Tom created, and see where SHE went wrong. Whether it’s picking the wrong kind of guy, or having general intimacy issues….if she hopes to have a long meaningful relationship, she can’t repeat those patterns. Not having intimacy in her relationship with Tom for quite a while should’ve been a big shiny red flag and at least a good long conversation with Tom. But instead, I think she took him for granted. Big mistake, (no matter who the guy is, btw) Yes, it takes one to fail a relationship, but it take TWO to make it succeed. She has to question herself did SHE do her VERY BEST to make it work. 🤔
Tom broke up with Ariana NOT Ariana broke up with Tom. They were putting up a lie for the cameras. That chick has serious issues. Tom was afraid to break up because of the threats that she was making.
Shenna u need to realize what a good man u have. Respect him if u want to keep him. I see u on ur pod cast correcting how he talks, drives, etc. Don't ever take ur man for granted cause u can loose him if u don't stop the nit picking
Sheena needs to stop kissing the butt of those devil women & get her own backbone because I can see right threw a lot of this because who cries hysterically over SOMEONE ELSE'S break up?.. We get really upset if it happens to someone close, but I'm sorry no one becomes hysterical over someone else's breakup. This is an act. I give it 2 seasons before they tear at her next after they use her for support. How is this not obvious?... & Ariana is definitely in rebound mode 😁. GET IN LINE FOLKS! That box is ready to be sticked! 🥳😆
