As usual, it is so disingenuous for trump to say 'let the people decide' in one breath, while it is courts, judges, & a handful of mostly male Legislators in the other. That's hardly representative of "The People!"
As usual when something you don’t like happens you want trump to save you not the president but trump also your comment shows the extreme lack of accountability you are use to
I feel like we're all in a remake of The Truman Show, and all of the outrageous, horrible, unbelievable, and maddening events that have occurred since 2016 are just storylines for the entertainment of the viewers. There's no way this crap is real life.
Turn America Blue in 24, go out and Vote. Remove these Maga Judges along with the GOP Insurrectionists in the House and Senat. Give women their Rights back.
Democrats have given us double digit inflation, 2 wars, and 10 million illegal immigrants in just 3 years. If we vote for them they'll give us more of the same.
@@dmanletsgoIn 2012, FL GOP put forth an abortion ban as a ballot initiative. The ballot failed spectacularly & Obama won FL. Guess what will happen in AZ & FL in November!
February 15, 2011 South Dakota Moved To Legalize Killing Abortion Providers bill House bill 1171 would make preventing harm to a fetus a “justifiable homicide” in many cases. The bill failed ..
Yeah that’s insane they should have just outlawed it if they didn’t want it in South Dakota, though at that time Roe v. Wade was in effect so they couldn’t. I guess it just shows how far people are willing to go to try to save people who haven’t been birthed yet, I don’t think good ends justify bad means though so yeah good thing Roe v. Wade was overturned so states can decide for themselves the laws for their state and people aren’t trying to pass a law where you can legally murder someone of a particular profession. Although at least they are being ideologically consistent in their view because they see abortion as legal murder so they wanted to make it legal to murder legal murders. Still is egregious though to make that bill. Thank God for the overturning of Roe v. Wade so states can decide for themselves and violence from both sides is minimized and some resemblance of peace can be had. Thats good governance in a nation that hasn’t had much good governance lately.
If they're going to use an 1864 abortion ban, they should have to use 1864-level medical knowledge to determine when a person is pregnant! They had no pregnancy tests at that time, no ultrasound, and no way to hear a fetal heartbeat. Because of many factors like poor diet or the medicines they took such as mercury and lead, period timing was unpredictable. The only reliable measure of pregnancy was "quickening," when the baby can be felt moving. This usually happens at 16 to 20 weeks.
If they're going to use an 1864 abortion ban, they should have to use 1864-level medical knowledge to determine when a person is pregnant! They had no pregnancy tests at that time, no ultrasound, and no way to hear a fetal heartbeat. Because of many factors like poor diet or the medicines they took such as mercury and lead, period timing was unpredictable. The only reliable measure of pregnancy was "quickening," when the baby can be felt moving. This usually happens at 16 to 20 weeks.
What's so hard to believe or think the same AZ fought to maintain slavery was and still is equally opposed to equal Constitutional rights, civil liberties, and justice for ALL Americans- even in Arizona. 😮
this is a slanted piece of propaganda - can't you see that - the left wants you mad and angry and emotional so you side with their big government agenda and don't think for yourself
And its not even enough really, just to tell Arizonans 2B sure & elect a Dem Gov & AG; & vote out those 'Justices' - they must ALSO, re-elect Biden, & give him a DEM Senate AND House. We must leave NO STONE unturned in order to best secure a Woman to maintain her bodily Agency, not just in AZ even, but Nationally!
Article VI, Paragraph 2 of the U.S. Constitution is commonly referred to as the Supremacy Clause. It establishes that the federal constitution, and federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, and even state constitutions.
Yes, and that’s why overturning Roe has had such a devastating effect on the country, because now there is no federal law that can protect women from forced-birthers enacting draconian laws like this, where a woman can’t even have surgery to remove a completely nonviable embryo from her uterus. Something that has zero chance of becoming a baby. Now she has to wait until she becomes septic and is about to die (“to save the life of the mother”) until a doctor can perform a D&C procedure aka an abortion. If it’s too late, and that woman dies anyway from sepsis and can’t take care of her other children who have already been born, or has such damage from septic shock that she is infertile, loses her limbs from infection, or myriad other horrific complications from letting an infection run rampant in a persons body, than that’s what has to happen. Laws like this don’t take into account all the nuances that can happen when a woman becomes pregnant. And doctors aren’t given the latitude because of the way the law is written to make the decisions that are needed on a minute by minute basis.
@@drakebrown762 Is it wise to empower the government to force any free citizen to put their health in medical risk for an extended period of time without that citizens consent?
When this law was enacted, it would still be another five years before the Transcontinental Railroad was completed and somebody could take a train/s between the East & West Coasts. Back then people travelled by Stagecoaches and nowadays, we think nothing about flying across continents & oceans in hours. Heck, it would be another 18 years before Thomas Edison out open the Pearl Street Station, the first centralised, commercial Power Plant, in lower Manhattan.
If you want to get rid of ancient laws that no longer make any sense in today's world, how about at least modifying the Second Amendment? You know, the one that was passed in 1791, 233 years ago? 1791. When the best available firearm was a Musket. An un-rifled, smooth bored, barrel loading Musket with an effective range of only 50 yards and a rate of fire, in experienced hands, of just 3 rounds per minute. Not a Semi-automatic with an effective range of about 600 yards and a rate of fire of 45+ rounds per minute. Or even more if the Shooter can pull the trigger faster. Or a powerful handgun that can be concealed in a pocket or a belt loop. Just a thought. 🤔
Don't forget, grenades and rockets were also in use back then. Cannons, mortars and the pickle gun. We should also let people own rifle, as well as breach loaders. All of which existed back then.
We should require that gun owners be members of a well-trained militia available to protect their state and state government at need. Sort of like a volunteer guard that trains in case there’s some kind of emergency. Yeah, each state could have its own Guard. Since there’s already lots of cops, they should also be training to act as rescuers and first responders for non-shooting emergencies, like floods or earthquakes. Gun owners could each have a 6 chamber bolt action rifle and a similarly low capacity, lower speed handgun. They would have to spend a few months training full time so they can be evaluated for competence and character, and then spend 1 weekend a month training or volunteering in a relevant task.
There maybe bad laws passed in AZ in the 1800s , but this one banning the homicide of a child in the womb was not one of them. How evil is it that we now embrace murder of children, yet they had more sense on this one issue in 1864.
My nephews in AZ are about to turn 18 and they don't know where their local posse is located. How do we find one so they can avoid being arrested or charged? Guess it's time to start calling the governor to find out.
My wife just gave birth to our third child. It's amazing how progressive little babies are: They always want to be on the move - they prefer if the stroller is moving. They prefer being held while their mother and father are moving. They thrive on mixing things up and changing their scene.
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My sister-in-law had to have an abortion due to an ectopic pregnancy and had two miscarriages, and she wanted to have a baby. These bans will make being pregnant like Russian roulette.
Pretty sure it's also illegal for women to wear pants in Az, skirts only! But like many laws, enforcement has fallen by the wayside. And they (the lawmakers) don't bother to take the time to strike the law from the books because it seems like a waste of time. Until stuff like this happens
I hope those justices realize they are not honorable. They are dishonorable. They will have BLOOD on their hands. ARIZONA, GO BLUE AND COME INTO 2024 NOT 1864!
if this is a territorial law which Arizona wants to impose, then abolish Arizona State Supreme Court because they are NOT YET STATE, this law is TERRITORIAL
This just in : Supreme court Arizona: A beard shorter than to the neck shall hence forth be banned a shooting competition shall be held to see who draws fastest in the land. Yes we mean it, we are going back baby! Yeeeha
Not quite all but the branding is still actively used because people still raise and brand livestock and people still steal them. They might have been amended in potential imprisonment but not much. Also Murder laws came from way before then. I personally think that law was for specially protecting women from an abusive relationship because 1 they recognized it as a life 2 they were settling a Territory that took Months for people to get there sometimes required populations to grow. As a military/Law social and economic necessity.
New Mexico lucked out in that it's population centers were north of the Union/Confederate divide during the Civil War. AZ is pretty much Alabama but without the southern hospitality.
AZ was a territory and had quite different borders. The north half of the territory was Union and the south half was Confederate. And NM clinics aren’t “booming.” They’re overwhelmed.
You fail to mentioned that pro abortion laws unequally affected minorities. Yes history and the mindset of people then were positive in some areas and not good, to say the least, in many other areas. We have the luxury, today, of looking back, and judge that time. How will people judge our time 70 years from now were there is more and more pressure put on to allow the killing of the unborn as well as the just born. Devaluation of human live and the human spirit is pervasive and unconscionable. Imagine a time when the magnificent human embryo becomes so valuable to a community that if any parent at a difficult time in her life can totally rely on that community to take full responsibility for that life. Politically, corporately and economically the human being has been commodified and has no more unique standing in this world as it should. It is for this reason that, for example in Canada, assisted suicide can be accomplished for young and old alike. We in Canada have the highest legal assisted suicide rate in the world. If we can do it to the most vulnerable, the unborn and the one just born, then we can do it to anyone. Yes we are a society in decline and have not reached the bottom yet. It will be disastrous.
How did the Arizona SC justify going years before statehood to find a law to attack women? Has the AZ legislature never taken the time to review and discard laws that were made before statehood or before 1970? Seems strange.
Arizona citizens have the choice to follow these ancient laws or relocate to one of the other 49 states and US territories. Arizona DOESN’T HAVE JURISDICTION over indigenous peoples territories. ⚖️😎🇺🇸
There were 1,026,700 abortions in America. The most in over a decade and the first time over 1 million babies were aborted since 2012. There are over 2813 babies aborted daily in the country and I still h want seen a post with the names of the women who have died because they can’t get an abortion. I’ll pray for you all.
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This is why judges and politicians should not be allowed to serve a lifetime term position for their backward ideologies, that's what senior retirement homes or insane asylums are for. By the way it's high time we give them all time limits, and don't tell me it's impossible, just contact your nearest cellphone provider and they can tell you how they changed your unlimited usage to various slow speeds which depends on the account holders package.
At 75, I don't think I will be alive to see it, but if we do not have or if we survive World War III, if our population plunges but somehow we hang on to return to the normal of 3 thousand plus years, a whole lot of people, many bedazzled elderly (now thinking they will be Eternal Adolescents), will be in shock to think they abandoned Tradition. But, alas, that realization is not now. So-called Progressivism is on the march and has not hit the Wall yet.
Last night on late night commercial TV some outfit was selling Trump pocket knives with trump stamped on the knives How handy for the people in Arizona and they're wild west abortion laws
That New AD is the cringiest, most annoying thing I've seen in a while. Are the majority of MSNBC viewers 75+ years old?! If you don't know how to install an app, I fail to see how that same person would be able to find and open your app, let alone navigate it.
The judges who made this decision, gathered around the state seal and commenced to speak in tongues. This is who made this decision. Folks had better learn to vote.
Too late! Youre too late! I've been calling this for years now. I saw this same things coming since then, how come so many missed it. Go back on my comments
Then let the young women and men change this path, and get involved right now! I'm a old female, not in Arizona, never will live in Arizona. I don't have a dog in this fight... but, I seen this coming! Gays are next! 🏳️🌈
In 1864 when this law was written, women and black people could not vote. The use and adoption of this law should be unconstitutional. How can a law be applied to all people even those who could not participate in the original enactment. This violates the 15th and 19th Amendments. For God's sake can someone with the power and means fight this.
Awesome as this AG's stance may be ... if they have many years to play with, in terms of delayed prosecutions; all they have to do is to wait for a maga AG, no?!
3:31 Since you read out loud all the other laws preceding the law regarding women, You should have read the last old law regarding women shown on screen! That was the sound bite!
Thanks for honoring my freedom of speech. There shouldn’t be any doubt that it was some man in a Protestant religion (USING his bible) in parliament that preached to other Protestant Christian “legislators” … that it was GOD that condemned women who had abortions … and that the Protestant Christian men in government must (in GOD's NAME) "DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT." From the book … ABORTION IS NOT A SIN ... author ... Kent B. Welton …”In any case, it is interesting to note there was not a single law regulating abortion in the United States until 1821.”
"the land of the free".... free from religious persecution..... demands women to follow religious doctrine or else, be persecuted. That's a high stake on evolution!
Arizona's going backwards just like the Supreme Court has gone backwards they need to get rid of Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito and need to expand the Supreme Court. As far as Donald Trump is concerned they need to send him to prison as soon as possible vote blue this November 2024 and let's get rid of the M.A.G.A nutjobs. 😂
By empowering the states to make their own laws? Or by allowing congress to pass federal legislation which they failed to do for 50 years? Yeah let’s blame it on judges…
It seems this will do the opposite and have every women voting in November which we know women will vote against Trump! I can't lie, I'm happy that this has happened and I hope this will backfire.
Since the SCOTUS has decided that the 14th Amendment Section 3 of the Constitution and Roe v Wade are null and void without following the proper procedure, what makes anyone think that we must follow any laws?!?
Women from texas were going to Arizona for abortions? Really, it would be easier to just stop in New Mexico, or did you forget we are a state (one that provides womens healthcare including abortion.....
