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ARMENIA | One Year after the War 

Prof James Ker-Lindsay
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@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Something very different this week! This is my very first attempt at a location video. I'd be really keen to hear what you think. Overall, it was an absolutely fascinating experience to visit Armenia, especially in the aftermath of the 2020 war. So, how do you see things evolving between the two countries in the years ahead. Is a peaceful settlement possible? As ever, do please give it a like, leave a comment and share it more widely. It really helps the video grow. And, if you would like to help support the channel, you can find out about channel membership here: ru-vid.comjoin It all helps enormously. Many thanks!
@SpeedyGonzales2727
@SpeedyGonzales2727 2 года назад
Will you shoot a video reflecting Azerbaijan’s point of view on this topic? It would fair and great if you shoot a video from Baku or Shusha presenting other side’s view. 👍
@mohamedmido4866
@mohamedmido4866 2 года назад
Your next video should be in Baku
@muradshirinov7451
@muradshirinov7451 2 года назад
Waiting for your visit to Baku and the liberated territories, especially Shusha! But, unfortunately, your some remarks don't reflect the reality, for example, you say Azerbaijan wasn't willing to negotiate to settle the matter. However, I want to let you know that Azerbaijan participated in all kinds of negotiation processes for 30 years. And because of the Armenian side's provocations aimed at spoiling the negotiation processes, and the co-chair states' unwillingness, made Azerbaijan to cut its own umbilical cord. Moreover, the statements(Artsakh is Armenia)and actions(going to Shusha, drinking and dancing there) of the prime minister of Armenia in recent years made the negotiations meaningless and totally ended them. Azerbaijan has always wanted to solve it in a peaceful way, but Armenia hasn't wanted to because then Armenia should have obeyed to the UN Security Council's 4 resolutions, which clearly stated that Armenian forces should leave the occupied territories of Azerbaijan unconditionally, immediately and completely.
@percamihai-marco7157
@percamihai-marco7157 2 года назад
Great video, continue to do videos like this.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
@@muradshirinov7451 Thanks. If you listen again, I was very clear to point out that this was the simply view I heard in Yerevan. It wasn’t a statement of my view. In fact, I explicitly pointed out that I would hear something very different in Baku. This was a video deliberately designed to relay what I heard in Armenia. I didn’t go to judge. Just to listen to how people view the situation a year on from the war. Hopefully that is useful in its own right. But it’s important not to jump to conclusions about what my own views may, or may not, be.
@nabilalhami1681
@nabilalhami1681 2 года назад
So, field reporting is the new form of experimentation for this channel. Hope you can do more of these field reporting.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks. I would love to do more of these. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to do it often. But I do hope that I will be able to do it from time to time.
@Salu_GujjarGurjar7431
@Salu_GujjarGurjar7431 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay best wishes and respect for Armenia and Azerbaijan From south asia pakistan
@samiralakbarov2838
@samiralakbarov2838 2 года назад
James when are you coming to Azerbaijan to cover the view of another side?
@vshlearning7230
@vshlearning7230 2 года назад
Melonhead azeryturq s.o.b.
@kkkks497
@kkkks497 2 года назад
@@vshlearning7230 s.o.b
@ThePussukka
@ThePussukka 2 года назад
I really liked this format!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thank you so much. I don't know how often I will be able to do them, but I do hope to make more like this from time to time.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 2 года назад
Wow your decision to go on location has definitely taken your channel to the next level. The style of video is fantastic, framed in the serious tone in which it should be, while giving us a bit of local flavor as well, presenting the local point of view while all the while remaining neutral. Your style is very much the style of Peter Jennings’ on-location geopolitical documentaries, both those that I grew up watching and those older ones I watched later on the internet, along with other older geopolitical documentaries from that 1980s-early 2000s era which I’ve later watched, such as those from Thames TV or PBS. This is is sharp contrast to the virtual propaganda which sadly almost all on-location geopolitical reporting devolves into today, even from mainstream outlets never mind internet ones. This channel has always been a breath of sanity, in a field in which it is needed badly, especially on the internet, and this fantastic on-location documentary adds even more credibility to that position of genuity.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thank you so much LocalLt. That is incredibly kind of you. You know how much I always value your thoughts! I am so glad you liked the style. I thought long and hard about how best to try to approach it. People have suggested that I should have done some interviews and vox pops. But this was difficult for a number of reasons, not least of all the sensitivity of the subject and language issues. In the end, I hoped that distilling the many conversations I had when I was there and trying to give a flavour of the city would be my own way of doing things. I also wanted to hold off from too much analysis. I went to listen, not to judge (although I obviously have a lot of views on things). Technically, it was also a challenge as I haven't done any outdoors videos before. Needless to say, I hope to be able to do more of these from time to time. I don't think they will be very often, but hopefully they will add an occasional something extra to the channel.
@savvasbambos2669
@savvasbambos2669 2 года назад
It's a required job from him. He is doing a secret job for secret societies. Wake up bro 🤔🤷‍♂️
@abdiaha7022
@abdiaha7022 2 года назад
Would you consider interviewing either ordinary citizens or even policymakers in matters of international diplomacy/constitutional law in your future on field videos like this one James?
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks Abdi. I have been thinking about doing some interviews at some point, but in a different format. It wasn’t suitable for this video as the subject is very raw. I didn’t want to ask people in the street what they thought about the conflict. One has to be careful about this. Also, most older people don’t speak English. Russian is the main second language there still.
@samuelqorqmax2713
@samuelqorqmax2713 2 года назад
We would now like to see from Baku the Azerbaijani perspective about the development of this war and what it feels like for them after regaining Nagorno-Karabach after 30 years and after many failed peacekeeping resolutions on international politics.
@supaturk97
@supaturk97 2 года назад
Hahah yeah he will never do such a video. Biased christian ofc
@MinecraftAddict991
@MinecraftAddict991 2 года назад
@@supaturk97 More like he's gonna have to tiptoe much more carefully there. For instance, isn't anyone who denies Azeri claims to Artsakh liable to immediate arrest upon entry to the country?
@mannequinofscots5246
@mannequinofscots5246 2 года назад
Yes, sure pretending to be offended is the best way to justify any violence.
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
@@supaturk97 The guy seemed to work pretty damned hard to be objective. The video was essentially about how Armenians feel and he did a good job of conveying that. I would have liked his explanation of the origins of this conflict to be a tad bit more in line with reality but overall I think he did a very good job presenting an extremely sensitive topic.
@labella7458
@labella7458 2 года назад
@@MinecraftAddict991 where are y from?
@oguzb.7033
@oguzb.7033 2 года назад
Turkey and Azerbaijan want peace with Armenia, I think this area together with Georgia can become a free trade and travel area. Everyone will benefit from this but Armenia will most, Armenia should just open the roads and Turkey and Azerbaijan will open the borders.
@oguzb.7033
@oguzb.7033 2 года назад
Turkey and Azerbaijan can become an ally of Armenia, will open roads to west for Armenia. Biggest loves start with fights.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks a lot. Great idea. I agree completely. The origins of the EU can provide a really good model for this. It's also worth noting that in the Balkans there are real steps by Serbia, Albania and North Macedonia to try to create a free trade and travel area.
@canakaln8423
@canakaln8423 2 года назад
Georgia is a really good example against your argument James. Both Turkey and Azerbaijan have good relationships with Georgia and nobody is thinking of a war or hatred against them. But from Armenia side, they have bad relations with all the neighbors except Iran. But probably that is only "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing which is Iran was using for many centuries against the Turks. So nothing has changed in this part. What Armenia needs to do build a good relationship with her neighbors like Georgia, Turkey and Azerbaijan, instead, what they do is to play victim part but eventually have eyes on others land by claiming it was theirs 1000 years ago lol. Go to Yerevan metro and you will see a big map of so called Armenia having pieces of land from Turkey, Azerbaijan, Iran and Georgia. If this was the extremist logic you got educated in your schools, war is only thing you will get in return. Hatred seeds the hatred . I hope Armenia has learned the lesson but unfortunately painfully. Hope for future cooperation and would love to come to Armenia again to taste nice ararat brandy or the legendery wines. That is how I would love to remember Armenia but not with the war and poverty.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks. But I’m not sure what ‘my argument’ is that Georgia is a good example against!? I didn’t try to present a particular argument. This was about listening and learning what they view was in Yerevan.
@canakaln8423
@canakaln8423 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay sorry for mistake. Against their argument which is how they represent being the wall between Turkic world and how they represent and express it as a holly mission that all Christian countries had to come to defend them(which they didnt). Georgia is also between Turkey and Azerbaijan and other Turkic World. But Georgia or its people don't see it as a threat but an opportunity. Georgia is now a gateway between Turkic countries and their trade with Turkey. So Georgia take greatly benefit from the foreign trade and taxes. Why cant it be the same with Armenia? The problem with them, they got themselves too much extremized with some shitty historical propaganda eventually results in bad relations with its almost all neighbors and put them in extreme poverty and got locked inland. What do you think? İ'd like to hear
@zohrabp2142
@zohrabp2142 2 года назад
@@canakaln8423 I dont know why you think Georgians and Armenians don’t get along? The main reason why Georgian government slightly supports Azerbaycan is due to them being economically important and the fact that Armenia supported Russia at the Georgian Ossetian border conflict. You make it seem like Armenia is a warmongering state but we have the worst geopolitical cards due to the genocide and being displaced you know… you can still feel the effects of the bad geopolitical state Armenia got put in.
@zohrabp2142
@zohrabp2142 2 года назад
@@canakaln8423 I don’t want to get too deep but I think you are a hypocrite. You push a certain stigma on armenian people while turkey is literally interfering on every of its Border Cyprus, syria Armenia, Greece, Libya etc. Please stay neutral or else don’t say anything in that subject.
@IllusiveDude
@IllusiveDude 2 года назад
It seems Turkey is warming up to Armenia for possible normalizations. That's some good news for both parties I think
@elguntarverdiyev5247
@elguntarverdiyev5247 2 года назад
Talk about the surrender of Yerevan to the Armenians by Azerbaijan in 1918. Talk about the forcible capture of Zangazur from Azerbaijan in 1920. You are talking about foreign aid to Azerbaijan in the war 😂😂 There is a military force, a military difference. population between our countries. Go tell your tales to Armenians!
@karenwalkeden6030
@karenwalkeden6030 2 года назад
You need Jesus ✝️🙏✝️
@veyselturan6916
@veyselturan6916 2 года назад
"Armenians are people living in a state of denial" , this one phrase describes those ppl, living in parallel world created by themselves.
@joefreeman9733
@joefreeman9733 2 года назад
Well the Armenians are allied with Rus a IA. Which shares their problems in many ways. Having lived near Glendsle California which has a large concentrations of Armenians and well devoted white collar crime such as hacking data bases Medicare fraud credit card fraud car theft and export rings etc its really not surprising that Armenia has problems with its neighbors. The Azeris are themselves rather a piece of work. So it's not surprising th as t they have problems with the Armenians. In any event in the latest hostilities the Azeris throughly thrashed the Armenians. Th we EU and the US did not stop or intervene with the war given Armenisns alignment with Russia.
@arammartirosyan9078
@arammartirosyan9078 2 года назад
Really loved the field reporting from the city and the details of life you highlighted! You captured an impressive amount of nuance and perspective regarding the war, the prominent views among Armenians, and the lingering questions moving forward. As an Armenian myself, I truly appreciate this
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thank you so much Aram. I had always wanted to go to Armenia. (I lived in Cyprus and there is an Armenian community there. I was always fascinated by it.) It really is such an interesting and welcoming country. But as you could see I also wanted to get a sense of how people see the situation now, but hopefully present it in a fair and non-judgemental way.
@arammartirosyan9078
@arammartirosyan9078 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay Fascinating. Yes, Armenians definitely take pride in hospitality and will sometimes be effusive in the best way possible, haha. Very much appreciate the lack of judgement. I think this video can also remind Armenians in the diaspora that the "denial" that seems to exist in bustling Yerevan is only a veneer that covers the profound feelings of devastation and grief.
@josephali2965
@josephali2965 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay I would like to see you in Azerbaijan.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
@@josephali2965 Yes. Maybe one day. But in the meantime enjoy seeing me in Armenia.
@josephali2965
@josephali2965 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay It's great to watch your videos. Good luck !
@nurlanshikhaliyev7274
@nurlanshikhaliyev7274 2 года назад
Last sentence of the video "this is the country that lives in the denial about what happened". Armenia denied international law for many years, and now also denies reality.
@vartankhachadourian7048
@vartankhachadourian7048 2 года назад
There is no any international law which insist that's the land
@nurlanshikhaliyev7274
@nurlanshikhaliyev7274 2 года назад
@@vartankhachadourian7048 and you still deny it.
@aalexandrian
@aalexandrian 2 года назад
Azerbaijan didn’t deny international law when torturing and killing innocent Armenian civilians? Or exploding trucks carrying supplies, rations, and water. All these actions are against the Geneva Conventions and you turn a blind eye to it?
@nurlanshikhaliyev7274
@nurlanshikhaliyev7274 2 года назад
@@aalexandrian accept the reality. War is over and you lost it. The truth won. Just live with it. Never think about revenge.
@aalexandrian
@aalexandrian 2 года назад
@@nurlanshikhaliyev7274 did Azerbaijan accept the fact that they lost in 1994?
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
It's so true what you said about the world attention during a conflict and how the place is completely forgotten post conflict. It is interesting to see how any society would deal with the aftermath which in many ways can be just as difficult as the war itself. I commend you for shedding light on something like this. However I think it would have been a bit more intellectually honest when explaining to origins of the conflict to not ignore the 800lbs elephant in the room. The ethnic cleansing of more than 800,000 Azeris when the Armenians invaded the territory. That was, more than anything else at the center of this conflict. Ignoring that, would be to ignore the major driving factor in this entire war.
@dunnowy123
@dunnowy123 2 года назад
This is a very nuanced take and I think you have an excellent point
@FUZZYnow
@FUZZYnow 2 года назад
I am happy that there are people who are not brainwashed by the "western propoganda" and the Armenian lobby. Yes. 800.000 people who lost their homes are almost never mentioned by the west. Unfortunately.
@Not_From_Holland
@Not_From_Holland 2 года назад
What you refer to as ethnic cleansing was Azeri’s leaving the surrounding areas of Nagorno-Karabakh and Soviet Armenia/Republic of Armenia during the war since around 400.000 of them lived in Soviet Armenia Heydar Eliyev admitted trying to change the demographic in the largly Armenian dominated region by encouraging Azeri’s to migrate to NK by opening a university with Azeri sectors and opening shoe factories. This and Baku’s other policies like limiting the Armenian language in schools and the press resulted in Armenians wanting independence from Azerbaijan. Armenians living in western countries do not revolt against their governments because those governments treat them with respect, something Azerbaijan and the Ottoman Empire (and Turkey until the 80’s) didn’t do
@Not_From_Holland
@Not_From_Holland 2 года назад
After Armenians in NK grew increasingly dissatisfied with Soviet Baku’s policies a referendum was held where a majority of NKOA citizens voted to either be independent from Azerbaijan or join the Armenian Soviet Republic. In response the Pogrom’s against Armenians living in Azerbaijani cities like Baku, Sumgait and Kirovabad (Ganja) stated. This was the start of the war and I believe Azeri’s lost the first war because they didn’t have the proper reason to defend a region that they knew has always been inhabited largely by Armenians. I can say that Armenians lost the 2020 war because they grew too comfortable with the status quo. Also Baku’s government for 30 years has been promoting ethnic hatred against Armenians and lying about history (saying ancient churches in NK are not Armenian but ancient Caucasus Albanian (not European Albanian)). This hatred among young Azerbaijani’s who have never met an Armenian before lead to the same strong feelings wanting to take land the same way Armenians wanted to become independent from Azerbaijan and succeeded.
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
@@Not_From_Holland So this is how you rationalize the wholesale ethnic cleansing of nearly 800,000 civilians? Do all ethnic cleansing deniers use the same guidebook or something? Your version of events seems oddly similar to when the Turks blame the Armenians for the Armenian genocide. I see you've been taking lessons from them.
@akifa428
@akifa428 2 года назад
As an Azerbaijani I understand Armenian people are upset, but we won’t forget the 28 years that we went through after our defeat. Also, the Karabakh region is within Azerbaijan, keep that in mind.
@asala2116
@asala2116 2 года назад
28 years of defeat for Azerbaijan.. Wowwww. Armenians have been experiencing victories and defeats for thousands of years..
@cavada615
@cavada615 2 года назад
@@asala2116 armenia only 100 years, show me 1 armenian empire. NONE! 200 years ago no armenia
@asala2116
@asala2116 2 года назад
@@cavada615 every Historian in the world will laugh at your statement.. Our Empire has been recognised by every Old Civilization..If what you said is true then how did the Armenians have an Empire stretching from the Caspian to the Black Sea to the Mediterranean all well known and documented history by the people living in thise days, how did we fight a large war against the Persians in 451 AD, how did we live in the Ottoman Empire for 700 years? Wake up to yourself and get some education..
@--Apollo--
@--Apollo-- 2 года назад
@@asala2116 весь мир уже смеётся над вашими сказками ))
@cavada615
@cavada615 2 года назад
@@asala2116 In whole history you only have 1 fake empire like 3000 years ago. Show me just 1 armenian country or empire last like 2000 years. NONE! I can show you many Azerbaijani empires last 1000 years
@Natchke_V.
@Natchke_V. 2 года назад
Our brother and sisters Armenians,I’m georgian Christian and I know what kind of pain you have,no one knows and feels your pain better than Georgians,we have been living in this region for centuries and have always been brothers and sisters,I wish you all the best my Christian brothers,I hope that we will be able to support each other against our Common enemies🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲 ✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
@husseinabbasoff2128
@husseinabbasoff2128 2 года назад
Who are your common enemies?
@Natchke_V.
@Natchke_V. 2 года назад
@@husseinabbasoff2128 Turks that came here from Mongolia 😊
@husseinabbasoff2128
@husseinabbasoff2128 2 года назад
@@Natchke_V. Mongolians are different language familiy. They are not turk. And there are a lot of nations who ruled the new teretories. Armenians couldn't ruled their historical state. But georgia could. There is no Bizanate, Babil, Wikings anymore. World is secular. But if you support your religious brother. That is your opinion. I hope you also love your Christian Russian brother. Even they took Abkhazia and Shout Ossetia. But you can't judge them. Because they're also your religious brother.
@Natchke_V.
@Natchke_V. 2 года назад
@@husseinabbasoff2128 You aren’t native Caucasians,you are Turks and not Caucasians.native causasians are Georgians,Chechens,ingushs and other people Your historical land is in Iran and not in Caucasus ;)
@Ukit50
@Ukit50 2 года назад
All of the separatist projects in the South Caucasus are known to be interlinked and all of them were originally led, coordinated and directed by the Armenian lobby. And beyond this, they have one main feature: demographically, the separatists were doomed in advance and it was an attempt to "outplay the laws of history" that explained their savage, inhuman cruelty and purposefully organized genocide of the population, the "wrong", from the separatists' point of view, nationalities - Georgians in Abkhazia and Azerbaijanis in Karabakh. After all, it was enough to take statistical data from Soviet times to understand that demographically the three most "problematic" groups in the South Caucasus were Ossetians in South Ossetia, Abkhazians in Abkhazia and Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh. The Abkhaz and Ossetians of Samachablo had lower fertility rates than the Georgians and the Armenians of Karabakh had much lower fertility rates than the Azerbaijanis. Furthermore, this also encouraged nationalism and separatism and was used by provocateurs to say that "if we leave things the way they are, they will "outbreed" us. Although no one in principle prevented the separatists from showing personal example and to "multiply and multiply" themselves. But the fact is that most of the leaders of the separatist movement had families with either few or no children. However, international law knows no such thing as infringement of human rights on the grounds of belonging to a demographically better ethnos. One cannot expel a person from his homeland just because his fellow tribesmen have more children than the separatists have " "miatsums" Therefore, the separatists not only lied, making up historical myths, according to which native Georgian and Azerbaijani people in their native lands were allegedly "newcomers", but they conducted ethnically cleansing of the peaceful population with wild cruelty during the wars unleashed. Firstly, to radically alter the ethno-demographic situation by killing as many people as possible, and secondly, to intimidate people so that they were afraid to return to their homes. This explains the brutality against the civilian population of both Armenian fighters in Khojaly and the same Armenian fighters and Abkhazian separatists in Sukhumi. That the separatists and Armenian nationalists have always considered the demographic factor as the main one and that is why they carried out ethnic cleansing, in fact, Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan acknowledged and in fact revealed the aims of the separatists from the Karabakh clan, as well as those who sponsored and directed separatism in Abkhazia. This is evident from the text of Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan's statement on the negotiations on Nagorny Karabakh's notorious 'status' that the previous Armenian authorities were going to conduct: "...I refuted Serzh Sargsyan's statement at the RPA congress that the essence of the negotiations they abandoned guaranteed that Nagorno-Karabakh remained Armenian. Refuted because the right of Azerbaijanis living in NKAO to participate in the decision on the status of Nagorno-Karabakh as residents of Nagorno-Karabakh was fixed in the content of the negotiations. Consequently, if according to the content of the negotiations they are residents of Nagorno-Karabakh, then they should have been residents of Nagorno-Karabakh, and the Armenian side never objected to this content of the negotiations before the 2018 revolution. And if we take into account that a referendum on the final status of Nagorno-Karabakh, according to the content of the negotiations formed before I became Prime Minister, could have taken place 100 years later, it is predictable what changes in the demographic picture would have been in 'Artsakh' under those conditions...". In other words, everything is clear as to why not only the brutality in the massacre of Azerbaijanis in Khojaly, but also why similar atrocities in Abkhazia against Georgians. It is also clear why there is such wild Georgianophobia of the Armenian lobby in Russia, and why the same Armenia's constant voting against the return of Georgian refugees and Abkhazia at the UN General Assembly. One can logically surmise where is a completely senseless visa regime for citizens of Georgia introduced on the initiative of the Armenian lobby in Russia? Armenian lobby was not and does not want Georgian refugees to return to Abkhazia. So as not to create a precedent for the return of Azerbaijani refugees to Karabakh. In addition, due to the Armenian nationalists' inherent "greed" for foreign lands, they already consider Abkhazia "theirs", i.e. "Armenian" and do everything to ensure that Armenians demographically dominate here. Bear in mind that before the separatist wars, Georgians made up over 45% of the population of Abkhazia and Azerbaijanis over 30% of the population of NKAO. But! There is a pattern - the birth rate and natural increase of refugees is almost always higher than that of their persecutors. Obviously, the birth rate and natural increase of refugees from Karabakh and Abkhazia will be somewhat lower, but it is much higher than that of the separatists. In reality, before the second Karabakh war, no more than 50,000 of the original 120,000 or so Karabakh Armenians were left. At best, only 25,000 (some of them moved to occupied Abkhazia). Azerbaijani refugees from the former NKAO have long since outnumbered them. The families of refugees from Karabakh are the most numerous in Azerbaijan. Thus, there is no need to wait for 100 years, any referendum held in the territory of the former NKAO, if Azerbaijanis are returned to their homes, will show that the vast majority of the indigenous population of Karabakh considers it Azerbaijan! For Georgians refugees from Abkhazia, the demographic trends are somewhat similar. It is enough to visit any refugee settlement and one can see a lot of drying baby clothes, diapers and other children's clothes, small children everywhere. And at the same time, the families of the separatist looters who expelled them are often simply dying out in "trophy" homes. In this regard, one is simply amazed at the mendacity and cynicism of Armenian nationalists. They shout on every corner when they benefit from "friendship and brotherhood" with the Georgian people, but have deliberately arranged ethno-cleansing of the Georgian population from Abkhazia, deliberately do not allow Georgian refugees back to their homes and pursue a policy of "visa barriers" so that Georgians could not get into occupied Abkhazia even through Russia which occupied this territory. kavkazplus com
@tamu7243
@tamu7243 2 года назад
Today, as I'm writing this, Armenia won the Junior Eurovision Song Contest that was hosted in Paris. And backstage after her victory, there was videos shot of Maléna, the winner from Armenia, and Sona Azizova, the Azerbaijani participant hugging. Which makes me very happy to see. But it also makes me sad that the children of these two nations are more mature than their leaders. As Armenia won this year, that means that they get to host the contest in 2022, it is a clear sign that Azerbaijan will not be participating next year, which is unfortunate. But seeing their two participants having a good relations gives me a slither of hope that despite their nations not being the best of friends, that the children of both nations can show them otherwise. It is possible for Armenia and Azerbaijan to work together for a better and brighter future for them all, and having Azerbaijan participate in Junior Eurovision in Armenia could be the start of something better. I love the people of both these nations, and it makes me sad to see their leaders just throwing lives at each other. Just wish they could throw some love at each other instead, like Maléna and Sona did.
@gudrat
@gudrat 2 года назад
Why are you so sure Azerbaijan will not participate in the contest in Armenia? There is a precedent as Azerbaijani Youth judo team participated in a competition in Armenia in 2009. I hope it will be repeated in Junior Eurovision as both governments more or less try to stabilize the relations.
@haroutkabaian9627
@haroutkabaian9627 2 года назад
Both leaders? Azeris claim Armenia to be small and weak and they claim they lost so by logic Azeris started the war and Armenians were protecting themselves and their country. Armenians do not hate and have many friends do Turks and Azeris have many allies ?
@FUZZYnow
@FUZZYnow 2 года назад
@@haroutkabaian9627 It does not help to continue repeating the same phrases over and over, Harout. If you want our region to prosper, stop repeating the same illogical, toxic, neo-fascist patriotic ideologies. Azerbaijanis do not wish nor try to make Armenia "smaller", no, Azerbaijanis want the houses, the lands they had to leave 30 years ago due to the fact that Armenians occupied them. But it's in the past. Now is not the time to decide what was right or wrong in the history, but to flip the paper over and work together for a better future.
@tamu7243
@tamu7243 2 года назад
@@gudrat Armenia decided not to participate in Azerbaijan in 2012 when they hosted the adult Eurovision. Could be that Azerbaijan would do the same, but ofc I hope they'll participate nevertheless.
@haroutkabaian9627
@haroutkabaian9627 2 года назад
@@FUZZYnow those are there's!!!!! Go read history!
@chanell68
@chanell68 2 года назад
LONG LIVE AZERBAIJAN 🇦🇿 ❤ TURKIYE. Armenians need to be able to see the their future and get on well with the neighbour countries. They should stop burning burning the houses of Azerbaijans.
@Asamations
@Asamations 2 года назад
Another excellent video James. I really loved that you visited Armenia to highlight what the general mood is about such a sensitive topic as a lost war. Very well made video. I hope you make more on location videos like this one!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks so much. It was certainly a very different video from my usual ones! I’d love to do more of them from time to time. It probably won’t be very often though. But I do have some potential ideas in mind.
@salamikroket8543
@salamikroket8543 2 года назад
I don't think it's smart to think artsakh is coming back. it hadn't been resolved for 30 years. it didn't work that way. The counterparty will never agree because it is internationally regarded as Azerbaijan
@ab9840
@ab9840 2 года назад
Supposedly, Artsakh still exists but 1/3 smaller. They still have a government. Russian troops are stationed in Artsakh. Who knows what will happen when they leave. Population before the war at least 150.000. Around 90.000 left but many returned. Russian counted at least 50.000 returning. The government of Artsakh says there population is currently 120.000. Azerbaijan says Artsakhs population is 25.000, a figure they use to give the excuse on no need for further negotiations when it comes to Artsakh. Artsakh really needs the UN to have an official population count.
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
@@ab9840 Nope,we won the war and liberated our lands. Karabakh is Azerbaijan 🇦🇿. Armenians in 4 regions are Azerbaijanis and they will accept Azerbaijani passports
@salamikroket8543
@salamikroket8543 2 года назад
@@ab9840 There no troops, they are called peace keepers.
@salamikroket8543
@salamikroket8543 2 года назад
@HayelladaBall38 Probably true but you need to stop dreaming back for thousands years… It doesn’t help to develop Armenia in this stage
@salamikroket8543
@salamikroket8543 2 года назад
@HayelladaBall38 Sure!
@rafaelaliyev2960
@rafaelaliyev2960 2 года назад
Американские историки Жастин и Кэролин Маккарти: Во времена ханств город Иреван состоял из 4-х кварталов - Гала, Шехер (Шехри), Тепебашы и Демирбулаг. Армяне, будучи малочисленными, проживали только в пригородных деревнях. Квартал Шехер (Шехри) был самой древней частью города. В квартале Тепебашы (современный Конд), расположенном в западной части города, поселились около 50-ти семей армянских цыган (боши), прибывших из Индии. Многочисленные сады именитых жителей Иревана отделяли квартал Тепебашы от квартала Шехер. В квартале Демирбулаг (Караханк), расположенного в южной части города, проживали только азербайджанцы. И в Иреванской крепости, как отмечали Ж. Тавернье и Ж. Шарден, проживали только азербайджанцы. В современном городе Иреван нет ни одного присущего армянам историко-культурного памятника возрастом более 150 лет. Причина этого в том, что армяне были постепенно переселены в Иреван из Ирана и Турции в начале XIX века после завоевания Россией Иреванского ханства. Историко-культурные памятники Иревана были построены в восточном архитектурном стиле. Путешественники и летописцы описывали Иреван в своих произведениях как типичный Азербайджанский город.
@hakikarajcic3392
@hakikarajcic3392 2 года назад
Armenia started conflict the first. It' s the fact.
@h4ze531
@h4ze531 2 года назад
Karabach is azerbajcan 🇹🇷🇦🇿
@md.walidhasan7760
@md.walidhasan7760 2 года назад
Armenia is a sandwich between turkey and Azerbaijan. Armenia better join with Turkey for better future together......
@riko_sandokan
@riko_sandokan 2 года назад
By your logic, Bangladesh should join Pakistan
@mirandapillsbury7885
@mirandapillsbury7885 2 года назад
The romanticization of an occupying force is shameful James. As mentioned, Armenia not only took control of Karabakh but of ALL the land surrounding it. Not just a corridor to connect it to Karabakh, no. But entire massive swaths of land around it that were decisively Azeri majority yet you do not mention that really at all...just casually bring it up as if it those lands too were part of Karabakh or Armenian majority. Why do all your videos have a civilizational tone to them. A "christian state above everything else" type of tone. Never an inkling on trying to humanize the usually Muslim side. Whether it be Cyprus or Karabakh etc... Really frustrating and disapointing.
@claireindigo1200
@claireindigo1200 2 года назад
That’s a lie
@mirandapillsbury7885
@mirandapillsbury7885 2 года назад
@@claireindigo1200 No it's not? Did you even take a look at the map he showed? It clearly shows Karabakh and then the land around it that Armenia illegally snatched up and was inhabited by Azeris.
@iaw7406
@iaw7406 2 года назад
Many azerbaijanis are triggered over this video for no reason.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks. It is really interesting, isn’t it!? Actually, I get the impression that many are Turkish. Also, I think some are Pakistani or Bangladeshi. (Remembering that Pakistan is the only country in the world that doesn’t recognise Armenia because of the Nagorno-Karabakh issue!? Even Azerbaijan recognises Armenia!) But it is incredible how many commenters don’t get the concept of looking at how a conflict affects a society and that this can be done without having to then go and look at how it affects the other side. It is actually fascinating.
@huseinov.
@huseinov. 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay Hello sir. I understand you have any information about First Karbakh war (1989-1994) . Please search about it and I sure you will be well informed aremina and its war crimes .
@sallysvision3545
@sallysvision3545 2 года назад
for people who call Azerbaijan an agressor. Listen, first of all, Armenia started this war and as i know commited lots of war crimes against civilians. after that the literally set up a terrorist attack on Baku subway. during a 4 year war in 90-s Armenia occupied Karabakh + 7 regions of Azerbaijan. and after all Azerbaijan spent 25+ years in order to handle this conflict by Peace and negotiations. can you believe that? after all the shit they have done, those guys were holding their anger in order to solve the conflict without blood. so you cant call Azerbaijan and azeris Agressive. cause if they were they would smite armenians in a year or two. but not 25+ years. as i think, they just understood that its useless to talk to people who are violating the cease fire every single day, not giving a fuck about UN Resolutions and after all this shit they dont even recognize "Artsakh" as an independent Republic. can you believe this? they fought a god deamn war, killed so many people and lost shitload of their own people and still not recognized the land they fought for. Azerbaijan just unerstood that is useless to talk to this kind of Goverment and Country so they forced them to leave occupied territories. Azerbaijan is celarly a peace side in this conflict. of course it would be much better if they could solve it without blood and iron but it is what it is. Armenia knew it is going to happen sooner or later. and they didnt even prepare for it. and about Turkeys support. first: Turkey and Azerbaijan are Militant allies so its totally normal that they support each other. second: Turkey sold weapons to Azerbaijan. SOLD. as well as Israel and Russia. while Turkey sold only Drones and equipment, and Israel sold Drones and rifles, Russia sold: Tanks, Aircrafts, Helicopters, battle Equipment, RIfles, Pistols, AA defence systems, Trucks, armored vehicles, melee weapons and so on. why no one blames Russia? why everyone blames Turkey and Israel? third: In 90s when the first war began, Russia was literally fighting on armenian side. it was Pskov(town in Russia) Desant. Pskovskiy Desant - Pskov Airborne Regiment. and they mostly took part in battles against Azerbaijans "Regular" army and guerilla while Armenia were only a supportive part. and after all of this shit you cant just blame Turkey and unsee this facts -_- be objective for fuck sake -_-
@OhMaDayzz
@OhMaDayzz 2 года назад
11:08 "There is a belief this isn't the end of the story. Artsakh remains Armenian." This is probably true, just because that area has repeatedly been sacked and cleansed of its Armenian population. Shushi has gone from being held by Armenians to Azeris several times over just in 200 years. Armenians are lucky to still hold a significant part of Artsakh while inflicting heavy casualties on the Azeris, and in many ways the Azeris lost a lot harder in the 1990s than Armenians did last year.
@XDeathHackX
@XDeathHackX 2 года назад
This should be the top comment ^
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
Yesterday I visited Baku military Trophies Park 🤣
@deusvult5247
@deusvult5247 2 года назад
@@YALQUZAQ_AZ and you will of course be a virgin in the end
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
@@deusvult5247 Why yoy are not in Erablur with your p11s
@yashma9545
@yashma9545 2 года назад
If you again think to hold our territories with your military groupings, then a new war cannot be avoided.
@nativetorontonian
@nativetorontonian 2 года назад
Man! I should've guessed this choice. This is a very interesting topic. Another gem James
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thank you so much! I hoped it would come out OK. It was so different from anything I’ve done before. And I’m certainly not a professional journalist or documentary film maker. But I like to think it was an interesting and useful look at the situation over there.
@JGldmn333
@JGldmn333 Год назад
The big ( unanswered) question: if Russia is defeated....and the Russian Federation falls apart...what happens when Armenia loses it's Big Brother? What happens when Turkey and Aizerbaijan invade Armenia simultaneously from both east and west? Would Armenia face a 1915-style holocaust? Could they count on American (military and otherwise) blocking of such a Turkish/Aizerbaijani scheme? Let's hope so....because Russia certainly could collapse. It COULD happen. Christian Armenia needs friends if it is attacked by Muslim hordes. As a fellow Christian nation...Armenia deserves America's solid guarantee of military support in case of the worst-case scenario occurring. Turkey's Erdogan is a scheming dog....NOT to be trusted for 1 second.
@Orthodoxsawit1
@Orthodoxsawit1 2 года назад
Disappointed on Turkey , they have been engaging with Genocidal regimes. Shame on them and one day hope they pay the price from the above for their wrong doing. On the other the Arminian are strong they have overcome the ordeal 🙏🏽
@Flowshakers
@Flowshakers 2 года назад
The European Court of Human Rights has clearly confirmed the controversial nature of the events of 1915. Moreover, in 2005 Turkey proposed to Armenian side to establish a Joint History Commission in order to reach a just memory in the light of historical facts of that period. Although Armenia has never responded to this proposal, it is still on the table. So all those armenians and their so beloved diaspora (btw go live in yerevan if you love your land so much instead of Los Angeles you know) have kept pushing that genocide lie for 100 years. It is the biggest lie in history in order to prevent Turkey's success. Today there is still armenian community living in Turkey but no Turks in the other country, see who is hostile & biased in real? Armenians inland should give up on genocide horseshit and accept the reality, they just play victim and poor because their diaspora wants that so
@Orthodoxsawit1
@Orthodoxsawit1 2 года назад
@@Flowshakers As Turkish you will disagree…with statements involving your country… Thank you for your comment. Sadly, Turkey is now involved in the #TigrayGenocide with Ethiopian regime. Turkey is not only supporting the Genocidal regime but full involved in supplying weapons to the Ethiopian Gov . In fact they are operating drones attacks over #Tigray many innocent have died from Turkish drones as early yesterday 😭😭…
@Flowshakers
@Flowshakers 2 года назад
@@Orthodoxsawit1 Europe awarded aby ahmed with peace prize and he is responsible for tigray thing due to not recognizing their election. Before it comes to our drones, please just check what is european agenda to gain from africa, turkey is not colonizing any country
@Orthodoxsawit1
@Orthodoxsawit1 2 года назад
@@Flowshakers European is agenda another argument However, I am very disappointed that Turkey is involved with drones. Tigrayans are dying not only from man made famine but also from drone attacks… the support of Turkish drones has worsening the suffering of Tigray people.
@Hnw761
@Hnw761 2 года назад
@@Flowshakers this comment is why Turks are hated all over the world except for equally wretched places like Pakistan and Israel. I mean really is there a more hated people from the Americas to East Asia more hated than the Turks?
@TheSpiritof76
@TheSpiritof76 2 года назад
I feel like the "outside help is the only reason we lost the war" line is common to pretty much every people that lose a war nowadays, it's a coping mechanism that nationalists use even when their country also got outside ""help"" like Armenia getting Russian weapons for dirt cheap for years or Arabs getting help from the Soviets against Israel.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks so much. I would tend to agree. It does help countries face up to disastrous situations like this. Many outsiders I have spoken to who know the situation well pointed out that Armenia had become very complacent over the past couple of decades. But there's also an issue that it just couldn't keep up with Azerbaijan's military spending. There were years when Baku was spending more on its armed forces than the entire Armenian state budget! But it is clear that Turkish - and Israeli - help was decisive. (It is also fascinating to see how drones are completely revolutionising warfare.) In any case, it would be really interesting to read a full account of all this at some point - if we ever get one!?
@edomin1148
@edomin1148 2 года назад
For your info genius, Armenia got the cheap stuff from Russia. The soviet version of their weapons. And Azerbaijan could afford and spent far more on the Russian, Israeli, Turkish latest cutting edge weapins with its oil cash. As for Israel's? They sure helped, since anyone is supported by them has western support autimatucally, or turning a blind eye on their actions. And azeri corrupt dictatorship is one such country.
@frankishteynfrank9133
@frankishteynfrank9133 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay Huge military spending does not necessarily translate into military strength. An example would be how little Saudis accomplished militarily during its years-long conflict against Housis in Yemen.
@muradmammadov680
@muradmammadov680 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay, the whole idea in warfare is to make sure that your opponent is inferior to you in as many aspects as possible. One can always find injustice even if they have the equal number of soldiers, equipment, budget. There is always something that makes one side win. It takes intelligence to use those resources and diplomatic skills to benefit from foreign actors.
@xseajin2055
@xseajin2055 2 года назад
What many don't realize, is that Pashinyan was ALWAYS making anti-Artsakhi statements in favor of Azerbaijan, and then he came to power through a color revolution. Google "color revolution" and see what that is. No, it's not NATO and ISIS and Israel helping AZE that decided the war- it was Pashinyan. He capitulated. Russia even tried getting inside to help early on, but Pashinyan refused. Lol. Color revolutions are backed by the US, UK, and EU and other NATO members. There is geopolitical reasons for this, and it all comes down to $$$ sadly.
@Habshoosh
@Habshoosh Год назад
Armenia is an artificial state formed by the Soviet Union, as a buffer zone between Turkey & Azerbaijan. In 1886, 80% of Yerevan inhabitants were Muslim Azerbaijanis. What so called nowadays "Armenia" has always been a Muslim territories for about 14 centuries.
@Sabir5927
@Sabir5927 2 года назад
Thank you very much for the video! As Azerbaijani side, we would be extremely grateful to see your visit to our country as well. You are always welcome in Azerbaijan!
@serendipity1999
@serendipity1999 Год назад
I just heard street singers on video, their songs were almost like ours. I don’t know, maybe because we Azerbaijanis have lived with them for centuries, but our cuisine, music, wedding traditions, songs at weddings are almost the same. Just a different language and a different religion. What I have seen from social media, even the mentality of people is close. There are many differences between us and Georgians or other North Caucasian peoples. Despite the fact that our religion and language are close to the Turks, we are culturally different from them too. But, despite this similarities, we have not been able to get along for more than a century.
@deplorable2767
@deplorable2767 2 года назад
Love to Armenia 🇦🇲 from the US 🇺🇸
@raphaelaliev1039
@raphaelaliev1039 2 года назад
I think , you're lying . How armenians could be majority in KaraBaBakh , when Azerbaijan has more than 1 million of refugees , while local Armenian population of KaraBaBakh is less than 150 thousand people ? And there is difference between Karabakh ( 10 districts ) and Armenian populated territories ( only one district known as Stekloparket )
@levendful
@levendful 2 года назад
After 30 years of negotiating can we say there was a possibility of a negotiated deal? There comes a point when talking is recognized as being fruitless and things change, the Minsk group failed and so the barrel of a gun took over.
@husseinabbasoff2128
@husseinabbasoff2128 2 года назад
Armenia does not only want Karabakh. They think that Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis shouldn't be exsist. I would estime that is their racist ideolojy. However for their opinion Georgia also had taken some northeren teretories too. Their fictional opinion says all the neighbors borrowed their lands before.
@travelmentaryTV
@travelmentaryTV 2 года назад
As for the Russian role, Russia used this war to "punish" the Armenian government for the fact that before the conflict they established a somewhat pro-Western approach. That way, they showed Armenians their narrative: "The West won't help you - and we won't either, if you don't stick to our block." In addition to that, Russia has strong business ties with Azerbaijan. Let's not forget that Azerbaijan is not just any country, but a former member of the Soviet Union.
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
@Travelmentary TV, out of all the comments I've been reading this is the most rational one. Russia most certainly didn't step in earlier to "teach Armenia a lesson" as Armenia had been looking to get away from Russian influence and forge closer ties with Nato nations. But as another poster on the same thread said, Russia did eventually step in to stop their ally's army from being completely destroyed. In general terms Russia causes these conflicts, then Russia comes in as the saviors. It's very interesting. I'd imagine people in both these nations would be far better off without any sort of Russian influence.
@travelmentaryTV
@travelmentaryTV 2 года назад
@@williamdavis9562 I doubt that Armenia “would be better off without any Russian influence”. Because without Russia, Armenia wouldn’t exist for three days. Erdogan from Turkey has already phantasized about “breaking Armenia’s back”. And given what we know what Turkey has done to Armenians in the past, this is not just talk. In this case I also fail to see how Russia “causes these conflicts” - this is about a disputed area between Armenia, Azerbaijan and the Turkish idea of being a global player - not so much about Russia. For the Russian government it is just another nuisance next to its borders and not a conflict that they have been actively looking for. In the end it is geopolitics and the Russian Federation is neither better nor worse than any of the other participants in this new round of “the Great Game”.
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
@@travelmentaryTV Georgia is in that region and no one is trying to "break their back" aside from Russia itself. I'd imagine when Armenia stops making territorial claims on 3 of it's 4 neighbors they'll be just fine, not to mention all the trade opportunities that come with it. As far as Russia causing these conflicts it's no secret that Russia to keep influence in different regions had a policy to ferment divisions in different ethnic groups, it's a policy they've been pretty open about since Soviet days. In fact the borders of Nagorno Karabakh were actually drawn to keep the town sides in conflict by the USSR. Not to mention that in the 1990s Russia armed Armenia to the teeth to invade Azerbaijan which is what is causing this current conflict. Russian influence in this region will lead to nothing but misery for the people. As far as geopolitical strategy being "no worse" than other nations I beg to differ. All large nations do horrible things, my nation has done some of the most horrible things on the planet in the last 50 years. With that said you won't find one group of people under Russian influence who didn't suffer massively from it and will curse Russian influence to the ends of the world. I get why Russia does it, it's their defense strategy to keep influence outside their borders as their heartland would be difficult to defend without that buffer, considering how aggressive Nato has been on the Russians even after the breakup of the USSR, I can again understand why Russia does this. But understanding why they do it and to simply ignore the horrible consequences on these ethnic groups under their thumb are two different things. Russia will at the end of the day do anything in their power to make sure these two nations are in constant tension, it's the only way to ensure they stay within the Russian orbit and keep Nato out. From the Russian point of view just imagine what would happen of Armenia had great relations with her neighbors. First their economy would take off, their trade with the outside world via the ports of Armenia's neighbors would open Armenia up to the world, it's living standards would go up and it would be a lot closely aligned with Nato and the west in general. Big win for your average Armenian in the street but a HUGEE loss for Russia. So my original point still stands, Russia does not in any way, shape or form want Armenia and Azerbaijan to not have tension. Good for Russia, bad for Azerbaijan much worse for Armenia. Yes I understand the "great game" and I don't blame Russia for playing it. But I won't sit here and paint a rosy picture of what is done in the great game either. If I did, I'd sound like those idiots who claimed invading Iraq was going to be a good thing for the people who live there.
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
@Nikolay Karlovich If Russia didn't want tension between these two nations long term why draw the borders that will inevitably lead to tension? Why arm one side so heavily so it can invade the other and slaughter their people? Russia wants and needs nations in their orbit to not get along, its' the only way to retain their influence.
@travelmentaryTV
@travelmentaryTV 2 года назад
@@williamdavis9562 I’m sorry, I think your point of view is rather biased and blatantly anti-Russian to begin with. It seems to me that for a reason I don’t know your opinion is based on some sort of personal issue. I have seen people talking similarly, because their Russian girlfriend sacked them or because they lost a business dealing - I don’t know what it is, but I have heard it all before 🤷‍♂️ 😅. Just kidding 😀. So back to the topic 😀 What you’re claiming just doesn’t seem objective. Hence you are making Russia responsible for an issue that is not at all about Russia. Russia has had no interest in this conflict whatsoever and could have easily lived on with the status quo before it. Now it binds more troops and costs more money than it did before. Besides, it is hard to believe that Armenia could coexist peacefully with Azerbaijan and especially Turkey. The latter frequently questions the very existence of Armenian statehood. Georgia and South Ossetia are a totally different story. I believe that all those conflicts have pre-existed and when the Soviet Union collapsed it caused a major geopolitical problem. Old hatred reappeared, while millions of people ended up living in completely different post-Soviet reality. This is also why the Russian president called the dissolution of the Soviet Union a geopolitical catastrophe. Anyway, I made my points and prefer not to further participate in that sort of discussion and wish you a great day.
@m1rze1
@m1rze1 2 года назад
It's really funny to everybody go *rmenia
@AggieAze
@AggieAze 2 года назад
As an Azerbaijani I would like to thank the author for bringing this topic to attention. This is a great work and is very much appreciated, despite being skewed towards armenian views to some degree. We - Azerbaijan have tried to bring this "frozen" conflict to the attention of the world for about 30 years and major showstopper for this unfortunately were armenians themselves, since the world attention required immediate withdrawal off all armenian forces from all illegally occupied Azerbaijani lands. Azerbaijan has only implemented the international law requirements written on all official documents across the world, which it was waiting to be done by global community over the years.
@vardansimonyan966
@vardansimonyan966 2 года назад
as long as u write your country's name with upper case and my country's name with lower case, you prove all we say about you
@sunmiswashingmachine
@sunmiswashingmachine 2 года назад
@@vardansimonyan966 making a elephant out of a house fly.
@murad89bkru
@murad89bkru 2 года назад
@@vardansimonyan966 Read carefully, no country name "Armenia" were mentioned in the text above, only "armenians" or "armenian forces" as a people which is grammatically not required to write in capital letter. It just proves another time how brainwashed you are in seeing aggression in everything.
@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 2 года назад
Id still argue nagorno karakh and the region southwest of armenia should just be armenian and simply do a greek turkish style population exchangr
@sunmiswashingmachine
@sunmiswashingmachine 2 года назад
@@Cecilia-ky3uw no one listens to you if the international community disagrees
@zlatni_orao
@zlatni_orao 2 года назад
0:48 Damn!💀💀
@_Fruzhin_
@_Fruzhin_ 2 года назад
Long life Armenia🇦🇲🙏🏻 Regards from Bulgaria🇧🇬
@ufc5148
@ufc5148 2 года назад
How do you own a land that part of another country??? We aren’t stupid. Azerbaijan 🇦🇿🔥💪🏾
@ruufbailey4526
@ruufbailey4526 2 года назад
Jamie, the international community considers Northern Ireland as part of the United Kingdom, Catalonia part of Spain, Corsica part of France and Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan. All things being equal Azerbaijan made justice prevail! A country patiently waited for years, engaged in endless frustrating negotiations with the other side’s false promises for the sake of justice and peace. Awaited all these years despite the clear condemnation of unlawful occupation reflected in historical 4 UN resolutions. Azerbaijan didn’t occupy anybody’s territory, Azerbaijan LIBERATED lands that were never part of NK….lands where over 750,000 people became refugees as a result of the occupation and ethnic cleansing…no matter how you look at it - it is a country that deserves to live in a peaceful region for once. Before 2018 a hope came from Kazan treaty and Russian Foreign Minister along with US and France mediated the peace resolution for a staged withdrawal of Armenian Occupying Forces….5+2, cultural autonomy etc. Armenia meddled for a while, then declared finally to the world - not an inch of land will be returned to Azerbaijan and they would fight Azerbaijan for new territories….to reach the capital Baku. I’m not supportive of any regimes and I don’t live in Azerbaijan but these are naked facts….
@gencoglu
@gencoglu 2 года назад
Very well outlined. When I said this guy is bias he is offended. He also fails to mention Khojaly massacre. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_massacre
@sirius007
@sirius007 2 года назад
This is the problem with nationalists: - This land is ours! - No, it is ours! - We were there first! - You are wrong, it was we who were there first! - 2000 years ago our ancestors were living here! - No but it was after they pushed away violently our ancestors who were there before them! - You liars! - You turks! And so on and so on...
@theveryproudmoroccan2834
@theveryproudmoroccan2834 2 года назад
Real nationalists don't cause war because they know that war is nothing but a waste of energy. Real nationalists love their country and always seek to go with diplomacy before war. People misunderstand nationalism...
@Medic_V
@Medic_V 2 года назад
Strong reporting. Just a little correction for the sake of not missing the details. Most of surrounding territories were handed to Azerbaijan by the ceasefire agreement. Azerbaijan was able to capture the southern territories.
@skylawusa
@skylawusa 2 года назад
Little correction: Armenia was forced to hand over the remaining surrounding territories. The war would've ended much worse for Armenia if they refused to hand over the rest...
@Medic_V
@Medic_V 2 года назад
@@skylawusa It would have ended much worse for Azerbaijan too according to Aliyev.
@veyselturan6916
@veyselturan6916 2 года назад
😀 🤦‍♂️ ooh loosers as usual looking for excuses. Shusha was taken, Khankendi (Stepanakert) was about to fall within hours. As Putin said they saved Armenians from total collapse. The rest is just bla bla..
@Medic_V
@Medic_V 2 года назад
@@veyselturan6916 Putin never said such a thing lol. Show me the official report. Also I'm just saying what Aliyev said. In an interview he said that if war continued, Azerbaijan would have suffered great loses in Karvajar and that's one of the reasons why he stopped.
@salamikroket8543
@salamikroket8543 2 года назад
@@Medic_V 😳
@byronbailey9229
@byronbailey9229 2 года назад
Turkey still lusts to complete its 1915 effort.
@rubo1964
@rubo1964 2 года назад
Its obvious Turkish and Israeli drones were decisive outcome of the war.As an Armenian my heart cries for thousands of young men losing their lives.To me every Armenian life lost is one too many. WE will overcome as we have centuries
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks. You are very right. The role of outside actors was crucial. But it is also important to note that most outside observers familiar with the country also note that Armenia had become complacent. As for the longer term situation, hopefully some form of peaceful settlement will be found. The wars between the two countries have cost both to them far too much!
@heisenberg7891
@heisenberg7891 2 года назад
Karabakh is Azerbaijan!Yashma,special forces 052 dominated armenian soldiers!I am proud of Azerbaijan soldier!
@heisenberg7891
@heisenberg7891 2 года назад
Pure armenian..You have lost to the moral and psychological strength of the Azerbaijani people..It is not your business to fight with us..
@grzegorzgogola8779
@grzegorzgogola8779 2 года назад
such a long video but just talking about hostilities from azerbaijan side no any single world about how much people have been killed by azerbaijan side ...tipical west propaganda dressed as unpartial shame on you really have you think that all those azeri people are also human ???
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
I have made other videos on the conflict. But this was a chance to explore the Armenian thinking a year after its defeat. I’m sorry you see this as bias. Many viewers, including many from Azerbaijan, have been interested in this insight into attitudes in Armenia. It’s disappointing that you haven’t tried to understand its purpose or value.
@alievaeva
@alievaeva 2 года назад
Karabakh always is Azerbaijan 🇦🇿❤️
@--Apollo--
@--Apollo-- 2 года назад
what review are you conducting? do you think Armenia can seize foreign lands and kill people is it fair, but the fact that Azerbaijan liberated its lands recognized by the whole world is not fair? how do you reason one-sidedly in your video
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
I am not sure that you understand the purpose of this video. This is not an analysis of the conflict, as such. I have done that in other videos. It is an account of how a country is coming to terms with losing a war. I went to Armenia listen, not judge, and then relay that view - albeit with some of my own analysis added. This is a perfectly legitimate - and hopefully valuable - form of scholarly enquiry. Not everything in conflict studies needs to be framed as this side says this and that side says that. Exploring how individual societies come to terms with war is a useful academic exercise in its own right. I hope that clear it up for you.
@moshehaifa
@moshehaifa 2 года назад
Very interesting video and I like the change of style. I would be interested in a video on attitudes in Azerbaijan after the war also or even on Russian attitudes relating to the conflict.
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
@Nikolay Karlovich Putin made sure neither side got a decisive victory and made sure a situation for future tension wasn't lost.
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
@Nikolay Karlovich And he got Russian troops into the region which was his main goal. Lets not forget this conflict has roots in Russian policy to draw borders to ferment conflict between ethnic groups so they're easier to control. This specific conflict exists because Russia armed Armenia to the teeth to invade their neighbor and didn't even blink an eye as 800,000 people were ethnically cleansed. So now we're supposed to believe they're the peace makers? Please.... I understand Russian policy, they need influence in these regions to defend their heartland, especially considering how aggressive Nato has been to Russia, I get that I also get that the easiest way to maintain influence is to keep these nations in conflict with each other. But don't paint this situation as Russian influence being a good thing for the native people, they're simply not.
@AG-ig8uf
@AG-ig8uf 2 года назад
@Nikolay Karlovich "But I will say that the conflict did start during soviet times and that Soviet military and Azeri special forces were displacing Armenians which angered the Armenians and then led to the first nargano-Karabakh." - now that's simply a lie. Conflict started long before that, and armenians had no issues in cleansing ALL Azeri populated areas in armenia before that. You should refresh your memories, conflict was instigated by Mikhail Gorbachev’s advisor Abel Aganbekyan stating in Paris on November 16, 1987 that Nagorno-Karabakh region should be handed to armenia. It was unheard of in USSR to make territorial demands of such scale, let alone publicly, let alone in frickin Paris! And it went downhill from there. It was clearly approved by Gorbachev and top USSR leadership, so to make claims that Gorbi was on Azerbaijani side is not just a lie, it is a blatant lie. Mind it, armenians in NK were given autonomy by early Soviet government specifically for that, while comparably large territories populated by majority Azeris in armenia and Georgia, weren't given any autonomies at all. And they never made any issues about it! To this day, Azeris are most populous minority in Georgia, but unlike literally every other minority, even georgian minorities like Mengrels, Azeris in Georgia always stayed loyal to Georgia and didn't make any secessionist claims. Compare that to armenians, Ossetians, Abkhaz and even Mengrels.
@AG-ig8uf
@AG-ig8uf 2 года назад
@Nikolay Karlovich Again, you deliberately swapping cause and effects. Zangezur region in armenia was also majority Azer region, and they had no autonomy, none of the rights which armenians in Karabakh enjoyed. The rest is just outright lies, like " because the Armenian language was not taught in schools" - not only was it taught in schools, but they had theaters and publishing in armenian. The claim about churches is even more laughable, churches and mosques in soviet union were treated in the same way. "hey will keep attacking and provoking Armenia" another lie, as Azerbaijan NEVER made any territorial claims against armenia, and never attacked it, YOU invaded Azerbaijan, simple fact even your government acknowledged. "Armenia doesn’t ask Azerbaijan to give up their enclave on their western border." ffs, this is just getting ridiculous, do you live in some parallel reality ? Nakchivan is not enclave, do you even know what enclave means ?? For any prospect of peace, you should start by accepting facts and reality, why is it so hard for you ??
@tarcanyalcinoglu6128
@tarcanyalcinoglu6128 2 года назад
Longlife israel Turkey Russia Azerbaycan Armenia.
@noway6379
@noway6379 2 года назад
Thank you James for the as always amazing video. It's true, Armenians deserve a huge relief from their neighbors brutality (Turkey, Azerbaijan including Russia). They suffered Sultan Hamid's massacres 1908 then the Armenian genocide 1915 then the Kemal's massacres 1920-21 where they lost major parts of the greater Armenia. Now when they wanted freedom and peace (from their past dictator regimes, their neighbors fascist/nazist governments (Russia, Azerbaijan and Turkey) didn't like that. This people never will live in peace as long as there's the Grey Wolves (Bozkurd) terrorist organization in Turkey supported by erdogan and Aliyev is teaching "how to behead Armenians" in school (this is true, they learn how to destroy Armenians in school) and all their national songs are about jihad (Ramil safarov is a great example) There will be no peace as long as those Turkic nations want ottoman empire back and want to expand from Anatolia to central Asia (where they came from in 13th century). Just like Hitler. Hopefully democracy will win and Turks will learn that not everything is "bizimdir" as they pretend...
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
Bro what do you smoke?
@noway6379
@noway6379 2 года назад
@@YALQUZAQ_AZ 1. You're not my bro. 2. Ask that to Aliyev the great sultan of lies and censorship
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
@@noway6379 What you say everything is fake
@noway6379
@noway6379 2 года назад
@@YALQUZAQ_AZ fake is your nation from the bottom to the top :) when there was great ARMENIA, Turks were hunter gatherers somewhere in central Asia :) learn this fact. Also, it's 21st century, but you solve problems with Ramil Safarovs. You really need democracy.
@deusvult5247
@deusvult5247 2 года назад
@@YALQUZAQ_AZ facist virgin devil
@cmalddinmmmdov7349
@cmalddinmmmdov7349 2 года назад
Are you sure you are a professor? If you are then you should know that there is not any armenian solders in Azerbaijani prisons. All of them are terrorist which wanted to do a provocation in Azerbaijan after the agreement of 10th of November. And you should know that there no any place which called Artsakh, there is only one reality - Azerbaijan. And if you wanna know even the name Artsakh does not belongs to armenia. That toponim is about great turkic nation sak or skif. They lived in that are. And the name of that placed was called Arsak or Ərsak, "ər" or "ar" means brave in ancient turkic language, ans "sak" is name of nation. The video shows how you talk about the side of Armenia. And I don't know it is professional for a professor or not!
@irreligiousman3395
@irreligiousman3395 2 года назад
The third volume of the Armenian Soviet Encyclopedia (p. 571) contains a list of those who ruled Irevan from the end of the 14th century to 1828. Is there at least one Armenian among them? 1. Emir Saad (end of the XIV century - 1410); 2. Pir Huseyn (son of Emir Saad), Pir Gaib (son of Pir Hussein) - (1410-1420); 3. Abdul (son of Pir Hussein) (1430); 4. Yagub bey (1440); 5. Hasan Ali Kara Koyunlu (1460); 6. Div Sultan Rumlu (1515); 7. Huseynjansultan Rumlu (1550); 8. Shahgulusultan Rumlu (1550-1575); 9. Muhammad khan Tohmah Ustajli (1576-1583) 10. Hydyr Pasha (1583); 11. Muhammad Sharif Pasha (1604); 12. Amir-Guna khan Qajar (1605-1625); 13. Tohmaz Gulu khan Qajar (1625-1635); 14. Kelbeli Khan (1636-1639); 15. Jaghatay Kyotuk Muhammad Khan (1639-1648); 16. Keyhosrov khan (1648-1652); 17. Muhammad Khan (1652-1656); 18. Najafgulu Khan (1656-1663); 19. Abbasgulu khan Gajar 1663-1666); 20. Sefigulu khan (1666-1674); 21.Sarkhan bey (1674-1675); 22.Sefigulu khan (1675-1679); 23. Hall of the khan (1679-1688); 24. Murtuzagulu khan (1688-1691); 25. Muhammadgulu khan (1691-1694); 26. Farzali khan Qajar (1694-1700); 27. Zohrab khan (1700-1705); 28. Abdul Muhammad Khan (1705-1709); 29. Mehrali Khan (1709-1719); 30. Allahgulu Khan (1719-1725); 31. Rajab Pasha (1725-1728); 32. Ibrahim Pasha and Mustafa Pasha (1728-1734); 33. Ali Pasha Defterdar (1734); 34. Muhammadgulu khan (1735-1736); 35. Haji Huseyn Pasha (1735) 36. Pirmehmet Khan (1736); 37. Khalil Khan Uzbek (1752-1755); 38. Hasanali khan Qajar (1755-1762); 39. Huseynali khan Qajar (1762-1783); 40. Gulamali khan Qajar (1783-1784); 41. Muhammad khan Qajar (1784-1805); 42. Mehtigulu khan Qajar (1805-1806); 43. Ahmed khan Maragaly (1806-1807); 44. Huseyn khan Qajar (1807-1827).
@doncorleone646
@doncorleone646 2 года назад
Азербайджан один зажирел Армению ,то что Армиями оправдается что Турция и так далее а так Россия им все время помогал и помогает ,ни один турк там не воевал ,Армянин пз умеют больше ничего.На самом деле Армянин похож мои детстве😂когда пз получал дома говорил меня двоем били на сколько мне было зазорно признавать😂😂😂😂😂
@GeographyWorld
@GeographyWorld 2 года назад
Great video. Nice to see a video filmed on location. Seeing what the city is like really adds an extra layer of perspective.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks so much GW. I was obviously rather apprehensive about doing it. It was such a change from my usual videos. But I thought that a trip to Armenia was just too good an opportunity to try something new. And I was really keen to try to convey some sort of sense if the city. It really is a lovely place. I enjoyed my time there enormously. It really was very welcoming.
@sassouniyerker
@sassouniyerker 3 месяца назад
Stop Pantukizm 👹🇹🇷👹🇦🇿👹
@gamarro15
@gamarro15 2 года назад
Super interesting video. Looking forward to see your recording the “other side of the story” from Azerbaijan 👍
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks. Not sure when or if I will do one from Azerbaijan. But it’s actually not that important. If I do one, I do one. If I don’t, I don’t. I just hope this was an interesting view of the situation from Yerevan.
@jackholler3572
@jackholler3572 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay But that makes you biased. I think you should ask azerbaijan. Because you say azerbaijan never negotiated but azerbaijan is waited for 30 years to make west and russia to solve it because even they did not recognized the karabaq as armenian soil.
@VusalMusayev-s9w
@VusalMusayev-s9w 2 года назад
When you see that destruction that armenians and russians caused in those areas ask armenians why they have not done anything in that land
@johanneskatch4162
@johanneskatch4162 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay excelent work! I believe that being with Armenia is being with the right side. Just reading about the history Nakichevan,karabagh have been always part of the armenian people and how this turkics stole from them is disgusting. The same we face IN Serbia we lose Kosovo .
@reserva120
@reserva120 2 года назад
well this didn't really address the situation in any shape or form. Quite simply the sloth of leadership, training an procurement of the Armenian nation an military explains almost everything that took place.
@razakza
@razakza 2 года назад
*Armenians:* "It wasn't a fair fight... Azerbaijan had outside help, and that's just not right. Russia and the EU also didn't do anything to help us. Only *WE* can get outside help, and when we get outside help, it's always a fair fight "
@rasimmammadli443
@rasimmammadli443 2 года назад
Did u forget who helped in first Karabakh war to Armenia?
@razakza
@razakza 2 года назад
@@rasimmammadli443 EXACTLY
@hrachzakaryan5674
@hrachzakaryan5674 2 года назад
@@rasimmammadli443 Who did? Russia? Tell me howmany Russian soldiers died during the war. Can you name some Russian commanders who died during the war too so i can google them? No you can’t. Lol
@rasimmammadli443
@rasimmammadli443 2 года назад
@@hrachzakaryan5674 what about u ,tell Turkish solider who died in this war then ? I don’t know how many Russian died i know one fact there is monument Armenians built in Karabakh written “ thanks our Russian brothers fought for independence of artsax “ 366 мото стрелковый полк , were there .. do u wanna translation?
@hrachzakaryan5674
@hrachzakaryan5674 2 года назад
@@rasimmammadli443 So the 366 rifle division won the war? Tell me how many soldiers were in that division? What about Operation Ring where Soviet troops helped Azeris ethnically cleanse Armenians, forgot about that? Russia gave Armenia free weapons and even then, azerbaijan still had 3x more soldiers, 10x more tanks and 5x air superiority. They still lost.
@kingofgui_YT
@kingofgui_YT 2 года назад
I don’t like the fact that this is obviously politically oriented and not neutral. For example, no mention of the Azerbaijani people that were deported from Armenia and Karabakh right after the war, but only considerations for Armenian feelings. Armenians should remember that the conquered districts surrounding Karabakh had a larger population than Karabakh itself, that this population was nearly exclusively Azerbaijani and that they were all expelled.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks, but you completely missed the point. This is not an an account of the conflict. It is about exploring how Armenians are reacting to their defeat. Many viewers, including many Azerbaijanis understood this and found it interesting and useful. Not every study of conflict needs to be about telling both sides. Sometimes it is just valuable to explore what is happening in a particular society. This doesn’t mean one is biased or is neglecting the feelings if the other side. It is just that one is concentrating on understanding one particular aspect of a conflict. It is important to be open minded about these things and not get dragged into the view that simply because someone looks at one side of a situation, they must necessarily be biased.
@babekmusazade7616
@babekmusazade7616 2 года назад
#Azerbaijan gave back its internationally recognized territories. UN accapted resolutions number 822, 853, 874, 884 about unconditional withdrawal, but #Armenia didn't follow them. That's why Azerbaijan use its sovereign law-use military force.
@VAPOURIZE100
@VAPOURIZE100 2 года назад
Yesss russia warned Armenia number of times to let go.. I guess they deserved the hammer when they just dont listen eh 😤😬😬 conflict is never nice but at least thankfully this was a quick one
@Terekeme1
@Terekeme1 2 года назад
Armenians attacked pipelines out of no where..
@altunaze6127
@altunaze6127 2 года назад
Yess you are right
@homersimpson7832
@homersimpson7832 2 года назад
ARMENIYA KAPITULEYSEN👎🇦🇲🐏🍆
@rafaelaliyev2960
@rafaelaliyev2960 2 года назад
P. Kerop Patkanyan "Van Inscriptions and Their Significance for the History of Southwest Asia",1981. "Armenia, as a state, did not play any significantrole in the history of mankind, its name was a geographical term spread by the Armenians, it was a place for resolving disputes between strong states - Assyrians, Medes, Iranians, Greeks, Mongols and Russians only" Magdi Neiman "Armenia", 1899. "Immediately after the conclusion of the Treaty of Turkmenchay (February 10, 1828) under the leadership of Paskevich, 40 thousand Armenians from Iran and 90 thousand Armenians from Turkey were relocated to Azerbaijan. In total, from 1828 to 1896, more than 1.2 million Armenians were resettled from Iran and Turkey, out of this 985,460 Armenians were accommodated in the western lands of Azerbaijan (i.e. nowadays republic of Armenia), and the rest - in Karabakh and the Elizavetpol (Ganja) province. After settling, Armenians began to drive out the Azerbaijanis through mass pogroms and looting, and also barbarously exterminated a huge number of native Azerbaijanis".
@shabirwaziri6563
@shabirwaziri6563 2 года назад
Way to go Azerbaijan 👍🏻. They took what was their's.
@Shaunt1
@Shaunt1 2 года назад
Good video, I have been in Yerevan for 7+ months this year.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks! How have you found living there? From my week there, it seems like a lovely city and very liveable.
@Shaunt1
@Shaunt1 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay Good and bad, I don't like the police. Maybe if the Economy was better.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Interesting to hear about the police. I must say that I noticed rather a lot of them. But I never felt any sort of threat from them. Then again, I know that while they often avoid foreigners it is only matter if time before you have to encounter them for some reason. I can remember a very unpleasant run in with Greek police one night when I lived in Athens. We’re taught to be polite to police. In Greece everyone hates the police and so they don’t trust people who are too polite. In fact the more polite I was the more aggressive and unpleasant they became. My girlfriend, who was about as tough a Greek woman as I’ve knew, sat back and watched with amusement until it looked like they were going to arrest me for being too polite. Choosing her moment perfectly she stepped in and went mad at them. Threatening them. They backed off immediately! Never seen anything like it, especially as that would get you arrested on Britain! Anyway, I get a sense of what you might mean. I was only in Yerevan a short time, but really liked it. But I know his difficult it can be when you have to live in a place much longer. What seems fun and different at first can become very frustrating very quickly. Again, Athens springs to kind! :-)
@socialcommentarybyxagan7362
@socialcommentarybyxagan7362 2 года назад
You make me laugh 😅 The reason is, the west power was not invited in this game, and you are from West.. You must understand, that Putin saved Armanian army being destroyed totally, by signing agreement with Azərbaijan, Armania, and Russia (as garantier)..so Armanians must be thankful for Putin! So, your point of view, is representing the west intresse in the region, and it is " carrying out war and conflict for ever between Azerbaijan and Armania"...
@arammartirosyan9078
@arammartirosyan9078 2 года назад
The music from 11:40 onward is from "The Hares' Song" in the 1969 Soviet crime comedy "The Diamond Arm". The lyrics feel strangely relevant for Armenians because they describe people who keep on working and persevering even though they are filled with fear and surrounded by woe.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thank you so much. I had wondered what it was. This is precisely why I love the internet! :-)
@eldanizeldaniz6495
@eldanizeldaniz6495 2 года назад
😌😌😌
@dylanshumian8730
@dylanshumian8730 2 года назад
Every nation and people have their own biases and political agenda but the problem with our society is that we chew more than what we can currently swallow. We don't have numbers like our adversaries do. Our GDP is lower than our adversaries. Whoever can flee the country goes to another country to live more comfortably and never look back and have the audacity to say they love Armenia. It's no surprise why Turkey and Azerbaijan are successful nations. They have unity and love for their country. Our people don't have love for Armenia like the way our adversaries do with their country. I have a few theories on how Armenia can be successful but it'll be too long to list them here in this comment section.
@gencoglu
@gencoglu 2 года назад
Your best bet is to give peace a chance. Leave the past behind and look forward. You need to reconnect to the world. This can only happen through Turkish help. I know one thing. We are ready.
@AhmetwithaT
@AhmetwithaT 2 года назад
Lol. I wouldn't out the words "Turkey" and "successful" in the same sentence unless separated by a "not."
@bayraktar6071
@bayraktar6071 2 года назад
Karabagh is Azerbaijan!🤟💪
@sheldonwheaton881
@sheldonwheaton881 2 года назад
Azeris having oil revenue didn't hurt either. Buys a lot of toys.
@nureddinfevziefendi140
@nureddinfevziefendi140 2 года назад
Congratulations azerbaijan🇦🇿 this war is second Independence war after the turkey! Thank you for making us proud by winning against enemies of the turks
@TurkishRepublicanX
@TurkishRepublicanX 2 года назад
Look at Yerevan, not a single bomb crater, not a single unexploded shell. It's like nothing happened. Then look at Azerbaijani province of Ganja, where civilian homes were targeted by scud missiles. There you will find your answer to who fought fair and who fought dirty.
@tiziogg6350
@tiziogg6350 2 года назад
Stepanakert will be like: I'm a joke to you?
@TurkishRepublicanX
@TurkishRepublicanX 2 года назад
@@tiziogg6350 Literally the war zone. Hours away from being captured by the time armistice was signed.
@tiziogg6350
@tiziogg6350 2 года назад
@@TurkishRepublicanX it was bombed at the begining of the war. The azeris argue a lot about Ganja, but also they forget about Stepanakert that was bombed earlier and the intentions were quite the same.
@tiziogg6350
@tiziogg6350 2 года назад
@@TurkishRepublicanX let's not forget Martuni.
@அவானிஉயர்ந்தது
The misery is inevitable when you’ve been told you’re a victim your whole life
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Made all the more difficult when both sides have spent their lives being told that they are victims (as in their own separate and very different ways one could perhaps argue they were).
@VerGuut222
@VerGuut222 2 года назад
Armenians do live in the historical reality as victims of genocide, but rest assured they are as happy and confident as any people on Earth.
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
@@VerGuut222 Being the victims of genocide over 100 years ago doesn't give you the right to invade and ethnically cleanse someone else. That would be like me beating my neighbor to death because some other guy killed my great great grandfather. You do see the insanity in this line of thinking no?
@VerGuut222
@VerGuut222 2 года назад
@@williamdavis9562 Extremist and violent Pan-Turkic elements have played a part in Armenian-Azeri conflicts leading up to the First Karabakh war. That is why Armenians were so aggressive in the first place, because the sanctity of life and cultural heritage of the population could not have otherwise been assured. That is the "false victim" backdrop under which Armenians have been forced to take up arms so many times in the last 150 years from the Hamidian massacres to the Karabakh conflict.
@dorukcider4117
@dorukcider4117 2 года назад
@@VerGuut222 bla bla. I guess we could say the same about 1915
@derekerasmus8716
@derekerasmus8716 2 года назад
Location video is very nice. Nice to get a bit of a picture of the place.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks. I thought so too! Do keep an eye out for upcoming videos. I’m hoping to do another one in the next month or so.
@vondorylaeum4784
@vondorylaeum4784 2 года назад
The phrase ''Armenia and Azerbaijan went to war'' is inaccurate. Karabagh is internationally recognized as a part of Azerbaijan. Even Armenia itself doesn't recognize the so called ''Republic of Artsakh''. What really happened is Azerbaijan made an operation it it's own lands to clear a hostile occupation.
@sjaghiarian
@sjaghiarian 2 года назад
It was an intentional border issue created by Stalin after ww1. Armenians voted to legally leave Azerbaijan after USSR collapsed. This is a legal right given by the UN but was not granted.
@DreamWalkerVl
@DreamWalkerVl 2 года назад
@@sjaghiarian What? This situation existed even during the civil war in the Russian Empire/Republic, when it collapsed.
@sjaghiarian
@sjaghiarian 2 года назад
@@DreamWalkerVl I know Azerbaijan illegally did not allow the NK to leave per UN laws, that is why war happened in 90s
@vondorylaeum4784
@vondorylaeum4784 2 года назад
@HayelladaBall38 not true. Even Armenia itself officially recognises Karabagh as part of Azerbaijan on their maps
@Kamo-ve6bw
@Kamo-ve6bw 2 года назад
After Putin it will be the end of Russia, remember my words
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
It will indeed be fascinating to see how Russia adapts to the post-Putin era.
@mehmetalibursal4388
@mehmetalibursal4388 2 года назад
Thank you for conveying the current and historical crisis in international relations from the perspective of a documentary filmmaker. Greetings from Turkey 🇹🇷
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thank you very much. I hope you found it useful to get a perspective from neighbouring Armenia. It will be very interesting to see what happens with Turkish-Armenian relations. There has been some talk of a thawing of relations. I actually hope to make a video on this at some point. And warmest greetings from London! :-)
@steppenwolf5956
@steppenwolf5956 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay I think when Armenia withdraws its claims on land from TR ans AZ the first step will be made. And if not TR and AZ can wait. In the meantime Armenia well remain poor and weak!
@minzblatt
@minzblatt 2 года назад
@HayelladaBall38 "Historic lands"? Give me a break. Turks been living there since early 1000s, Seljuk Turks been ruling the place since 1037! Thats more history than your great grandma can tell you. More history than most European nations or off-shoots of that can claim for. Thats THOUSAND years for you. And we didnt expect anyone to give, we simply took it since we could, as any nations in those ages did for eternity and many centuries thereafter for your knowledge. Matter of fact, you werent even the first owner of that land or of the land your very republic of Armenia is now standing on. Remember the Urartians / Biai people? You stole their land when you came down from what is now Russia / Urals. Even your capital city, Yerevan, your biggest landmark, lake Sevan, and your symbolic national landmark which is internationally recognised Turkish property, Mt. Ararat... all of them carry names which DO NOT ORIGINATE in your Armenian language, that is Indo-European, but are scientifically Urartian. Now come to terms with modernity and international community, update your school books and maps and we can be normal neighbours. If you think you gain anything by prolonging this charade, you will only find out that this game can be played by more than one and nobody, no Russia or France or USA, will be nearby when the next round of this stupid game is laid out.
@labella7458
@labella7458 2 года назад
@HayelladaBall38 do u learn history from wiki?😂😂😂😂😂
@paulmakinson1965
@paulmakinson1965 2 года назад
What happened to the ethnic Armenians living in Nagorno-Karabakh ?
@JF-rh5vq
@JF-rh5vq 2 года назад
they had to flee or were deported, many fled to Armenia proper or Stepanakert (capital of Nagorno karabahk)
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 2 года назад
Hello Prof, do you have more footage of the guitar player at the end of the video? That was a fantastic piece of music. I visited Armenia a few months after the former government had to resign because of public pressure. It was a very happy time for the Yerevanian populus, I think. Interesting to see you standing in the same spots about four years later and sharing your impressions and insight 👌🏼
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks. Unfortunately not. But there was something about him that just stood out. As I was going through my footage, it just seemed to be the perfect ending to the video. It was really nice to hear that you had been over there and recognised so many of the places. I must say that I really loved Yerevan. I found it such an interesting city, even despite the difficulties that that country faces. It was rather different from what I had expected. But certainly well worth a visit for anyone who hasn’t been.
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay Indeed it was 😁 I now remember something I wanted to share. On our tour we visited a Cognac distillery and they had a circular room on ground level in which they raised flags of different nations, and a single barrel of liquor, waiting to be opened for a special day. What day, I asked (dramatising a little), and the treasurer replied: for when we celebrate a peace agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Their good faith delighted me. Later I experienced a romance with an Armenian woman, I wonder how it fared for her. We texted a bit on this, but she is not the one to reveal much of her emotions. Realising Armenia's dire geopolitical position, I can understand better why many Armenians, including this highly educated and intellectual woman, tend to have a one-sided view of their territorial fights with Azerbaijan and struggle to come to terms with Russia's limited loyalty.
@szalonynaukowiec6804
@szalonynaukowiec6804 2 года назад
It seems to me that the guy plays the old Soviet tune 'А нам все равно' in a jazzy fashion.
@DemPilafian
@DemPilafian Год назад
Armenian youth look to the EU for their future, but there is no clear path to get there.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay Год назад
Thanks. I think you are right. I have had a lot of Armenians say that they would like to escape the Russian orbit, but are stuck for as long as Nagorno-Karabakh remains an issue. There is a lot of anger and resentment about Moscow's position.
@vizibilibende5194
@vizibilibende5194 Год назад
probably you will lost your ındependence in soon time :(
@tofiqkazimoglu2075
@tofiqkazimoglu2075 2 года назад
К твоему сожалению Джеймс,война проиграна армянами навсегда.И никакие уже силы им не поможет....Им остаётся только уезжат с Кавказа и оставит нас в покое.Иначе сами захлебнутся в своей крови
@командосс
@командосс 2 года назад
Кто проиграл войну? Карабах как был армянским так и остался армянский! Чей флаг над столицей Карабаха Степанакертом? Армянский флаг! Так что это вам пора домой на родину! Алтай ждёт вас кочевники!
@otterlover3399
@otterlover3399 2 года назад
What the fuck?
@elliottprats1910
@elliottprats1910 2 года назад
Armenia ONLY has itself to blame, it was CLEARLY unprepared for the drone warfare which it SHOULD have been. Having Nagamo Karabakh in their control for years gave them plenty of time to prepare defenses for the eventual Azerbaijan reclaim attempt. In a perfect world NK should be Armenian, we in reality “might is right” so since they lost it in the war - it’s a dead issue now that Armenia must accept moving forward.
@williamdavis9562
@williamdavis9562 2 года назад
@Elliott Prats, in a perfect world 800,000 Azeris wouldn't have been ethnically cleansed from that region in the 1990s. Now that the war is over, the question still remains of reparations to the families of those 800,000 people who's farms and homes were illegally seized (by any metric of international law) for over 30 years. I think once they settle the issue of reparations the two sides can finally hammer out a lasting peace.
@mubarizaliyev2120
@mubarizaliyev2120 2 года назад
Thanks, James. It was nice to watch this video. Quite informative indeed. Since you say there will (most likely) be no video about the Azerbaijani perspective of the post-war period I will summarize for your viewers what we, Azerbaijanis think of the results of the war and how we see the future: - Unsurprisingly people are extremely happy to have won the war but all are unhappy about Russia's presence in the region. People doubt Russia wants peace in the region. - People want to believe that there would be no more war, no more deaths, no more sufferings. - People are ready to live peacefully with Armenians within the borders of Azerbaijan. - People really want peace finally. There is a common opinion that this conflict cannot continue forever. Though this should all be done within the principle of territorial integrity. No sort of autonomy arrangement is welcome. - There is a hope that the opening of communications and trade routes between Azerbaijan, Armenia and Turkey will serve peace. (After all, as the Bretton-Woods conference suggested "countries that trade with each other are less likely to make war with each other"). P.S. These are all based on my personal observations and might not represent the opinions of some groups or individuals.
@Armenia-td3wj
@Armenia-td3wj 2 года назад
My Grandfather older than azerbajan 😂😂😂imagine Hes born in1911…..but azerbajan made by turks for political reasons…in 1918 😂😂😂😂😂😂 and stalin give them a name azery in 1936..did you know that my smart friend
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
@@Armenia-td3wj The ethnonym "Azerbaijanis" has been used in various forms in academic literature since the 18th and 19th centuries. The same encyclopedic dictionary of Brockhaus and Efron called the Turkic population of the Caucasus and Northern Iran "Azerbaijani" or "Aderbeijani". In particular, the encyclopedia names “Azerbaijanis” as separate peoples in the Turkic family, pointing out its anthropological, linguistic, cultural and external differences from the rest of the Turkic peoples. “Iranian type Turks - Iranian and Caucasian Aderbeijanis”. Further, when classifying the Turkic peoples of the Caucasus, Iran and Asia Minor (Turkey), they are divided into two types: Osmanli and Aderbeijanis. Describing the various peoples of the Caucasus, the encyclopedia writes: "the Aderbeijanis with such a high growth are mesocyphalic (head index 80.4)." And describing the Persians of Iran, the Brockhaus and Efron encyclopedia states that the “Persians” also mean the Turkic peoples - including the “Azerbaijanis” of Iran and the Caucasus, which make up half of the so-called “Persians”
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
@@Armenia-td3wj "I could never come to an aggrement with the Armenians. Their cunning is rather squeamish,meanness is rather unbearable,and the meanness is regrettable" (French traveller Count de Cholier)
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
@HayelladaBall38 Karabakh is Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 Cyprus is Turkey 🇹🇷
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
@HayelladaBall38 We are indigenous inhabitants of Caucasus Turks liberated Cyprus during Ottoman Era
@realtalk1084
@realtalk1084 2 года назад
This is a one-sided video smh let’s cry for Armenia lol well done Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 🇸🇴
@YALQUZAQ_AZ
@YALQUZAQ_AZ 2 года назад
Thanks bro 🇦🇿❤🇸🇴
@dawud7864
@dawud7864 2 года назад
This channel is sooooooo sooooo underated. Keep it up Sir
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thank you so much! That’s incredibly kind of you to say!
@emreus1
@emreus1 2 года назад
Hindsight is 20/20 when your invading forces that are illegally occupying territory according to every international council get repulsed and routed. They should not have invaded in the first place. Azeris could have done what the Armenians did during the 90's and pushed as much as they can. But they did not. They were merciful. But Armenians cannot take the hint as always. And are still trying to cope with illusions of grandure. They should be grateful for the regions they were granted at this stage. How can you morally condone their mindset if I may ask proffesor? Can you claim an objective glance into their situation? But I guess this reporting comes with the territory. Kind regards.
@iskanderaga-ali3353
@iskanderaga-ali3353 2 года назад
Borders shouldn't have been drawn against ethnic lines
@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 2 года назад
Emre us, majority armenian territories, historically armenian lands and armenian cultural sites which azerbaijan ahs either destroyed or decided to own for itself, similar way to how turkey exploits greek artifacts and sites
@gunaytv6392
@gunaytv6392 2 года назад
Thanks God Azerbaijan retook his territories back....we waited for 30 years
@DCFunBud
@DCFunBud 2 года назад
I am still unclear as to what Armenia actually lost in the conflict. What were the territorial concessions? "Huge swathes?" A before and after map would be helpful.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
I have covered it in other videos. I put links to them in the video and in my playlist.
@DCFunBud
@DCFunBud 2 года назад
@@JamesKerLindsay That is very kind of your. Your videos are wonderful. Thank you.
@MartintheMetalhead
@MartintheMetalhead 2 года назад
wow, well done James. I went to Yerevan back in 2017 and fell in love with the whole of Armenia.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thanks. Yes, I must say that I loved Yerevan. It was actually rather different from what I was expecting - especially so soon after the war. Overall, it was incredibly interesting and welcoming. Highly recommended.
@MilsimStudio
@MilsimStudio 2 года назад
🤣🤭👎
@FredoRockwell
@FredoRockwell 2 года назад
Wow, great video! Loved seeing the glimpse of daily life in Yerevan, and getting a perspective of things a year on. Way to go!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thank you so much Fredo! And thank you for the absolutely brilliant tips before I left. I can’t tell you how much I appreciated it! It made a huge difference.
@vagramvardanyan9407
@vagramvardanyan9407 Год назад
Its not that we had an unfair fight its that our leaders were asleep behind the wheel. I saw this coming and Im no military expert. I JUST CANT UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL IN INCOMPETENCE!! Why is it we dont have any attack drones? We produce reconnaissance drones but none with attack capabilities. Why? How hard is it to attack an explosive to whatever drone we have and turn it into a kamikazee drone atleast. That wouldn’t cost us much and is so simple an man with half a brain could put one together. The warnings were all there after 4 day war. How come we dont have concrete reinforced bunkers on border? Or tank stoppers accross the flat parts of souther Karabagh. What on earth is going on there, their stupidity is infuriating.
@Apjan08
@Apjan08 2 года назад
Great journalism and analytic work
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 года назад
Thank you very much indeed. I really appreciate it. I'm not actually a journalist, and this was my first ever attempt to make a video on location, and so it perhaps lacked some of the finesse that one would expect of a news report. But I hoped that it would give a flavour of the situation.
@gokhanunal1473
@gokhanunal1473 Год назад
If you call yourself as an scholar you should visit the other side which was killed, tortured and forced to escape from the place you mentioned. When it comes to the war, Azerbajan doesn’t believe as well that war ended. And I highly recommend that please don’t downplay or underestimate the victory gained by Azerbajan because of the Turkiye support. We call this type of relationship as Alliance. Ermania has the this type of relationships more than Azerbajan. Just one question if Ukrania win the war will you underestimate victory of Ukrania. We stand with Ukrania against Russia and we sand with Azerbajan against Ermania and therefore how do you call Turkey as allies or something else. Thank you in advance
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