I think you're right about the KingSukamon effect. I think it would apply the same way -DP would in that yes, the purge still happens, but the -DP goes through the stack. I say that because of the way the wording is on KS, it applies to the Digimon. The same wording that is used for -DP effects. But I'd still ask the ruling groups.
The Digimon becomes a Sukamon until the end of the opponent's turn. It retains the DP it was set at by the King Sukamon effect. The only way the DP will change is if it becomes a tamer or Level 2 Digimon with no DP because cards without DP cannot have their original DP changed.
Its an effect that applies to a digimon till end of opponents turn. Ruled like any other effect that applies to a digimon till end of opponents turn. In this TCG a "digimon" is the stack, not the card. Otherwise it specifies that its applied to a "digimon card"
You're almost right about the situation at 13:20, but there was a misplay before that, and overall it doesn't make a difference. On one hand, KingSukamon's effect is a lingering effect, so it stays a Sukamon. Same for the DP reduction. In that case, Flamedramon could Armor Purge again, but would eventually die from Etemon's DP reduction. However, there was a misplay which makes it so that Flamedramon would have still survived (though it would remain a white Digimon). Your opponent evolved into Magnamon with Awakening of the Golden Knight on the previous turn, so you shouldn't have been able to DP reduce him with Etemon. He'd still remain a 3K Sukamon, as that counts as setting the DP, not reducing it. But your Etemon would just give him SecAtk-1, but no DP reduction. So luckily it made no difference overall. EDIT: Unless Etemon's effect still counts as a lingering effect, and the DP reduction doesn't do anything for the turn, but once it's his turn he loses 3K again. In that case, it would still have died. That is the part I'm not 100% sure about. But the more I think about it, this sounds similar to the Yuuya-Ice Wall ruling, so I think that might be the case. So Etemon's effect could still linger on Flamedramon and just not do anything DP-wise, but then decrease it by 3K when it passes turn. That's the ruling you'd have to figure out, I guess, because it's quite important in this matchup.
The option card effect only lasts until "opponent's next turn." And that was like two turns ago as I was rewatching it lol so definitely no longer had the DP reduction protection. This whole armor purge/Sukamon thing was extra annoying though. I wish there was an official ruling on the Bandai website for it
Yes, if you turn a Digimon into a lvl 3 sukamon with 3k. And use bt-11 etemons. It would kill everything through game mechanic. Only way to bypass if it has protection from dp reduction.
the digimon had a -3k status for the turn there would keep it no matter what and if it turns into a 3k digmon it wouldnt be able to armor purge cuz nothing stops dp reduction
i also disagree the chuumon from bt11 is very worth i can always choke my friends to 1 lol...thats why i love the deck its very trolly on how you can do so much and still choke someone at1 lol
Yeah, armor purge or dedigivolve doesn't remove effects/ailments like security attack +/-, DP +/-, memory +/- etc. It's not a new digimon like with DNA digivolve so any effect that lasts the turn remains in effect so it armor purges from Sukamon into Sukamon.
Thanks for the feature, sorry about the ruling thing I understand how that interacted so we know regardless of saving it with armor it a game mechanical that kills it.
No, it only changes the name, the color (white) and the dp. Any effects remain the same, but it does mess up the digisource effect's like "if this digimon is greymon/omnimon" etc.
I mean I don’t know if it was malicious but you certainly got cheated you were right on the ruling the magna would armor purge the flamedramon that’s now a Sukamon still would be 3k get deleted and armor purge down to a Veemon which would be a 3k sukamon and then the Veemon would be -3k dp and be deleted by game mechanics
Probably not malicious cause no one else has played the poop deck at locals. I just wonder if it would’ve made a difference. I think I could’ve forced a tie, and then forced a round 4. But you live and learn at least lol
Honestly too many players at my locals play 4 hades in bwgX. Armor rush is also pretty dead as a result to bt8 metalgreymon being used a lot. Mega death is useless into bwg but it's a great card. Gets sauced by blue flare too. I love armor rush but you'd be surprised how many people I've played can out magnax. Xros heart also kinda merks it.
King sukamon specifically turns into a white sukamon with no effects no anything so technically magnamon rn is a sukamon with no armor purge so idk how it armor purged to begin with
This is not true it does not remove the effects it changes only the Name, the DP and the Color but it still retains the ability to armor purge. Granted it would still remain a Sukamon even if he did Armor Purge so he got cheated on the ruling.
