Hebrews 6:4-8 [4]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6]If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. [7]For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: [8]But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
Read your Bible clearly before posting ,read it in context , judas iscariot tasted the word of God , he recieved power to cast out demons, he tasted was a partaker of the holy spirit, not indwelling , but he was never saved !!! Note that in thesame verse you just quoted the writer begins to say this in Hebrews 6vs 9 , addressing another group o f people ( believers),,
Jesus himself said to the 70 he sent out with power!!! And they came back rejoicing we cast out demons 😈, but Jesus said to them.( Luke 10vs 20) rejoice instead that your name is written in the book of life !!! , you can cast out demons and Still not be saved ! The book of Hebrews was written to.the jews ,warning those who have seen and tasted Jesus, the power of God and yet Still reject him, they crucify him afresh ( unbelief) they tasted the power of God,the good things yet they still rejected him.!!.
It is your spirit that is save didn’t begin with Abel Damina, I first learned it from Andrew Womack who as at then was preaching it in Abel Damina Station (KNL tv) and then Abel Damina was still preaching the prosperity gospel. As at then I thought Andrew Womack was right, but I later discovered from scriptures that he was wrong. When later Abel Damina jumped into this line without even making reference to Andrew Womack as though he is the originator of it I already knew he was wrong. If you have been following up you know this is the trend.
all those in the comment section, i pray for one thing for you all that you will encounter Yahshua (Jesus) himself in a heavenly way and hear what he has to say about how and why Hell is currently Growing in Population with "i am forever Saved Believers". Amen Shalom
If we are not sure of our salvation then we are as stupid and foolish even more foolish than the unbelievers. What is the essence of accepting Christ or believing Christ if I have no assurance for salvation. Bro, I am Saved forever, it doesn't gives me the license to sin, it gives me power to do more for God! I am not Abel Daminas Member, I have read that the holy spirit is a guarantee for my inheritance in Christ... Pastor Arome that is talking about the resurrected Christ, let him go and read what happened to the net break of Fish before he died and after he died. Christ is able to keep me to the uttermost. I AM SAVED!!!!!
*Hebrews 10:26-27* New International Version 26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, *no sacrifice for sins is left,* 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
Heb 10:19-33. Willful sinning is not what you think. Willful sinning is, not holding fast to the confession of hope. Willful sinning is treating Jesus's blood as common, ordinary or ineffectual, not eternal vs 29 etc. It is not in the works of the flesh like lying or fornication that os willful sinning in the passage. You need to repent! For your argument is exactly what this passage is warning against. His blood is so special it saves you eternally. How dare you say it is a lie and of the devil!
To say or imply that “once saved, forever saved” is a teaching started by Damina is either sheer ignorance of Church history, or a deliberate act of deception by these teachers to mislead their gullible followers that this doctrinal position is a new wave and thus not founded in scriptures and tradition. “Once save, forever saved” AKA “Eternal Security” AKA “Perseverance of the Saints” is a doctrinal position held by Classical Calvinists such as Presbyterians and Moderate Calvinists such as Baptist, as well as a few other historic and modern Christian denominations. IT IS NOT NEW. And it’s certainly not Damina’s. Classical Calvinists believe that apostasy is impossible for the truly regenerated. Moderate Calvinists believe those who exercise faith in Christ, through the finished work of Christ, are eternally secure. None of the positions stated above declares that you can live however, and indulge in whatever sins you want and and you will be saved. And if Damina said that, then he too lacks understanding of the position. Callous living as a result of adherence to the “Eternal Security” is a misrepresentation of the position, pushed by the ignorance or deception of antagonists who foresee a false logical conclusion of the position. To the contrary, the position believes as in Philippians 2:13 that “God is working in you, giving you the desire and the power to do what pleases him.” Those who have no desire to please God are only indicating to themselves that they were never saved to begin with.. The position believes that salvation is not casual but truly miraculous and regenerative, that the person who gets saved becomes a new creation by the now in-dwelling presence of the Spirit. Such a person thus cannot say, “Ha, I am now saved, so let me now go and live a sinful life.” Among those who believe that a regenerated believer in Christ can lose their salvation and become unsaved, there is no united opinion on what can cause the loss of salvation. There are varying opinions on what causes loss of salvation: a single conscious sin, falling back into habitual sin, a conscious act of apostasy, a small sin, a big sin, etc. For “salvation losers” It would also seem that on any given day, there would be multiple opportunities to become saved, unsaved, resaved, unsaved, resaved… The perseverance of the saints, on the contrary, believes that the finished work of Christ is truly finished and that when a person is GENUINELY regenerated, he may make mistakes; however, on a daily basis, the grace of God sustains and empowers him even as he works out his salvation with trembling and fear. This position aligns with the reality of the Christian life. Hebrews 10:14 For by one sacrifice he has made PERFECT FOREVER those who are BEING MADE holy.
@@aresaolutola8030Hebrews 6:4-8 [4]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6]If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. [7]For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: [8]But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
There is eternal security in Christ. What we don't have is unconditional eternal security. Jesus gave us eternal ( not temporary) life, but it is conditional upon our faith IN Christ
If salvation is not eternal, God wasted his son. God will become a man, live in this filthy world, die even the death of the cross (shamefully) for our sins, nailed sin and the law on the cross, rose again for our justification (acquittal). All that was a waste, because the law could have kept us in check. Ask them, before the law came, how did God deal with the patriarchs, we are told in Hebrews 11 they are heroes of Faith. How did Samson become one of them? Rahab the harlot? Let no man bother me, I'm sealed by the Holy Spirit, guaranteeing my eternal inheritance.
Salvation is Eternal when it's been WORKOUT or GUIDED Till the VERY END Philippines 2:12-13, God Neva wasted His Son cos He Only Outsmart Satan Who was after the general, Natural life existing in Human John 10:10-11 & Giving us Access to His own Very Life Romans 8:11. Christ Dead, Burial & Resurrection offers us ANOTHER LIFE, SEPARATE FROM THAT which Satan was After, which by Implications Calls us to Work, Talk & ACT Soberly & Vigilantly just like Christ. Thanks
@@Dollarman4realGod has worked in us Salvation by Grace through faith in Jesus Christ. (Eph 2:8-9). Working out your salvation does not mean “work for”your salvation. The response of the believer to a God that would make salvation available to us who didn’t deserve it, is to work out our salvation! It is apart of growing and being fruitful in our salvation. Romans 12:1 calls it our reasonable service! John calls it eternal life! Ephesians tells us we are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. Jesus in the gospels said he would not lose one of us but that the Father had given him but would raise us up in the last day.
@@Dollarman4real Salvation is not eternal WHEN… That makes no sense to the definition of eternal because if that which is “eternal” cannot be eternal then it is not eternal to begin with. It’s rather consistent and accurate to say that Salvation is eternal BECAUSE (not when) it workouts to the very end… Hebrews 10:14 For by one sacrifice he has made PERFECT FOREVER those who are BEING MADE holy.
Paul speaking in Romans 4 said; therefore brethren, we are debtors, not to live according to the flesh. If you live according to the flesh you will die(go back to where you cane back from), but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the flesh you will live. You will die? Yes. You will lose your salvation!
These subject is very complicated and it would take the wisdom of God to reveal it to us, in 1 John 1:10 says if any man says he is not a sinner he is making God a liar and d truth is not in him, my question for these pastors who said you can lose salvation is do you lose salvation everytime you sin because we sin almost everytime including the pastors, I agree with Abel damina in some parts because he backs his teachings with d scripture but my disagreement is is it possible to die as a sinner and make heaven? This is why we need to pray for God's understanding on this subject
Reprobate minds... So Apostle Arome Osayi backs his with stories abi? The writings of Jesus and all the early Apostles is replete with clues that you can become a cast away, if you take heed, if you continue to sin willfully, if you grieve the Holy Spirit, don't walk circumspectly, if you don't guard your salvation with trembling and fear. Why do you need to guard something that's impossible to lose... May the Lord give you understanding
Pls DONT listen to him o. God forbid. It’s better to not even listen to anyone at all than to follow some of the ridiculous falsehoods he recently spews out. Follow at your own risk
@@silverdale3603 I follow Damina's teachings very, very, very well! Please go ahead and follow people who teach you that God did not secure Job's blessings because he did not pay tithe. Also follow people who teach you that if you don't pay tithe you will not make heaven. Please continue following preachers who tell you that eternal salvation is tied to your own righteousness and holiness. You have just been entangled again to the yoke of bondage without knowing it!
Saying a believer can be unsaved is an insult to God and Jesus Christ who saves and it is clear contradiction with scriptures. A few questions: 1. how many times do we get born again or saved? 2. How much sin does it take for one to lose their salvation. 3. Do we lose our salvation each time we sin? If yes, how do we get it back in this case? Do we believe in Jesus afresh? Since we are saved by Grace through Faith? Unless we come to understand that salvation is not by works but by grace through faith and that Jesus is the author (starter) and finisher (perfecter) of our faith. We will keep saying things like this. Finally, If Jesus is the author and finisher of our Faith (through which we are saved), losing salvation would mean Jesus failed in starting and perfecting our Faith. I cannot condemn someone for believing that they can lose salvation. But when you consider it critically, it is an insult to Jesus.
When i read comments, I ask myself are people replying based on their church teachings or based on what they have heard from God?,one thing i will Keep saying unless you get a personal encounter from God your conventiions are just based on orinciples you have been told and taught,you as individuals must question teachings not by pride but with all sincerity to know and understanding, asking only the Spirit of God which teaches us truth to understand the mysteries of the word,i don't speak by a stance that i know all things but i speak as one who wants more of Jesus Christ and less of what men thinks
The spirit in man is from God from the beginning is going back to the owner which is God ,it does not need to be safe.what need to be safe is the soul, be careful guys
Man is a spirit that has a soul and lives in a body. The bible tell us we shall have a body in resurrection. The Luke 24:39 the preacher read points to a resurrected Christ and not his spirit. Am sure if Jesus appears to anyone of us today it will be by his spirit but we will all have this(resurrected) body at resurrection(1cor 15:51-52)
That one cannot loose their Salvation is one of the doctrine of devils. One who accepted Jesus, can decided to turn his back on Him and embrace a life of self-will. Accepting the Lordship of Jesus is by choice. And one can by choice rebel against Him. To call Jesus Lord, but leave contrary to His commands and instructions is self deception.
The Lord Jesus Christ said whosoever believes in Him shall never die, perish or lost. A wise thing for anyone to do, is to ask the simple question. "What does it mean to believe in Jesus Christ" if you know the answer and do what is takes to believe in Him, then you are eternally saved, secured and never to perish.
That's true. The Scriptures sufficiently and abundantly teaches about the security of the believer.. But like you said, many folks don't really know what that "believe" truly means; To believe in God or His Christ biblically means 3 things: 1. To assent to all that God has said or made known 2. To commit oneself to Him 3. To personally trust Him in obedience These are the 3 core indicators we must consistently see in a true believer. Many ends with 1 and are walking with stage 1 ans that's why many finds it difficult to accept that a believer can never perish. Yet, Jesus plainly said whoever believes shall never perish. Simple and Final!
@@pastorfred2543 This is not what it means to be a believer. You are giving principles that govern the Kingdom of God which you have been birthed into. So sir the main question should not be who is a believer. The main question should be why did Jesus die for your sins. When you find that out why, then you know that its matthew 7:2 and Galatians 2:20. that makes one into a Believer(which is not what God ordined us to be) but rather Sons of God(Which is takes a process and every believer has to good through it). And thats why the Book of Romans was written it shows the 12 path of spiritual Progress. I think the main problem is people don't want to read the Bible. Because for that is a skill on it's own. God Bless you.
@@nwabuezeprecious457 If you belong to a kingdom, not a country like these days, at what time do you lose your place in a kingdom as a citizen. None can snatch them out of my hands and my father is greater than all. Who can do that. The problem of the church is we have not understood what salvation is. Eternal life is the life of God, God never dies. The life of God in a believer will never die. These people are hypocritical, because Damina said it clearly,. Some of them are products of Andrew wommack teachings and he teaches the same thing, they don't attack him...
I don't know if people don't read their Bibles or they just choose to pick the aspects they like and ignore the rest. Jesus himself said not everyone who calls him Lord will make it into the kingdom. He was talking to all his followers including the 12. The problem is that people think eternal life is some concept, some thing that makes you forever saved. Eternal life, life eternal, breath of life, rivers of living water, everlasting life...they are all talking about the same thing...or rather the same person- The Holy Spirit. He's the sole evidence that you're now born again and recognized by God. Guess what? He can be grieved. Guess what? Jesus can blot people's name out of the book of life Guess what? He can spew an entire church out of his mouth so that they no longer have any place in him. Guess what? Apostle paul warned a certain group of BELIEVERS with tears as he did previously that those who practiced certain things would not inherit the kingdom of God. In fact, every Apostle in the new testament had something to say about this matter. Just study their books. Paul the preacher of grace people cling to said the most! I'm honestly baffled. Is it that people don't read those portions of their Bibles, or they see it and just willfully ignore?
Flesh and blood is the fallen body. We will receive a new body in resurrection. Man is forever a creature with body, not just a spirit. A spirit without a body is naked. Its not God's definition of Man. Christ is our example, when he resurrected, he was not a naked spirit without a body. Resurrection means being clothed with a new body. II Corinthians 5:3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; FOR A SPIRIT HATH NOT FLESH AND BONES, AS YE SEE ME HAVE. Which Jesus are you following?? The presence of flesh and bones disqualified man from being a spirit according to Jesus own words.
@okoroaforpatrick9010 Another misinterpreted scripture. Man is a spirit clothed in a "body". The body was given to man to be able interact with "matter" which his environment is composed of. So while Adam and Eve spiritually interacted with God (who is a Spirit), theymaterially interacted with creation including, animals and the environment. When man sinned, death (separation) occured. Spiritual death (his spirit man became separated from God) and physical death ( breath or life separated from his body). At new birth in Christ, God who is a spirit gave birth to us. What is born of Spirit is spirit and what is born of flesh is flesh (John 3:6). That's why we are now able to worship him in spirit and in truth. When we shall be raptured, we will drop our mortal bodies to wear our immortal bodies (just like christ).
It is not yet clear "What we SHALL be". That is future. Because we know that FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT inherit what we will inherit. But Jesus wasn't flesh and blood when He rose. He was "flesh and bones".
So the theory of Man is a spirit that has a soul and lives in a body is no longer correct. My question is, if one is saved and falls into a sin and dies afterwards, do they make eternity? What is that sin that makes you loose the salvaion gotten from believing in the finished work of Christ
Blogger, this video is totally meaningless! Arome did not say anything that made sense. That you believe that the salvation Jesus died for and gave to us is not eternal is sacrilegious and utterly heretic! I STRONGLY believe in once saved always saved. I will not allow religious blindness and ignorance of God's word preached by the so-called fathers in Nigeria cause me to desecrate and minimize the finished work of Christ. How could anyone ever think that there so-called holiness could earn them heaven? If by "being righteous" on your own effort you could "make heaven", then why did Jesus die? Galatians 2:21 Amplified Bible (AMP) "I do not ignore or nullify the [gracious gift of the] grace of God [His amazing, unmerited favor], for if righteousness comes through [observing] the Law, then Christ died needlessly. [His suffering and death would have had no purpose whatsoever.”
If you are the owner of this channel please read this. Go and listen to Abel Damina complete message on the subject before coming online to bear a false witness. Remember you will give account for what you are doing here if truly you are a believer in Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ said whosoever believes in Him shall never die, perish or lost. A wise thing for anyone to do, is to ask the simple question. "What does it mean to believe in Jesus Christ" if you know the answer and do what is takes to believe in Him, then you are eternally saved, secured and never to perish.
I used to believe in the heresies of Abel Damina, like y’all. Until I started reading my Bible myself. I then saw that he is the greatest preacher of HALF TRUTHS, and the letter. Anyone that has a walk with God will never say the things Abel Damina and his disciples say. It’s so so unfortunate. And I thank God for separating me from it.
Hebrews 6:4-8 [4]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6]If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. [7]For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: [8]But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
@@iorfasimon51 1 Cor 9:24-27 24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way as to take the prize. 25 Everyone who competes in the games trains with strict discipline. They do it for a crown that is perishable, but we do it for a crown that is imperishable. 26 Therefore I do not run aimlessly; I do not fight like I am beating the air. 27 No, I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.
Whoever has truly repented is genuinely saved, and nothing can snatch away from Jesus. Those who seem saved but still backslide weren't saved, they only acted.
The spirit controls the body , once the spirit is joined in Christ , the body cannot sin Can the body of a vehicle (body) drive the engine , NO but the engine(spirit) moves . the body . Once the spirit is saved the body can't sin again . Abel has a point here. Just like pple believing in big churches and the Christ . If u believe in Christ Jesus u will not be moved or scammed by a big church . Christ is a man but also a spirit , the spirit controls his body that is why he can never sin.
Please pastors, If you are born again, I mean born again, you cannot lose your salvation. Abel Damina made references to pertinent scriptures. yet none of you have controverted the scriptures, but just preaching from your emotions. I have been in a particular church for almost 3 years now. I saw them inside out and I can tell you majority f them have no encounter with the saviour. Yes, they have been in church yet no Zoe life of God in them. They have learnt over the years the language of the church. They even quote some Scriptures, worse still some of them are leaders in the church. I now know why. Their foundation is very flawed. They were never exposed to the message that bring salvation, which is the message of the cross. When a preacher preached on healing and concluded that if you want to start enjoying healing you must give your life to christ. When someone responds to alter call in that circumstance, he is is not and cannot be born again, sir. Apostle paul said, I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ.. for therein lies the power to save a soul. It is the gospel that save, no other message. Most people in such megachurches become "born again" in some other way. It is the lifestyle of those people, who unfortunately are unstable that makes these pastors disbelieve eternal salvation. When a man encounter jesus, His life is changed forever. One of the hallmark of salvation is you cannot be comfortable in sin. How can you say you are born again and remain in sin, or live your life the way you like? no. There is no pattern life that in gospels and the epistles. The only Man, Judas Iscariot was never born again. hence he was called the Son of perdition. Those of you quoting heb 6:4 should read the whole chapter to understand what it truly means. If you are saved , you are secure in the arms of the father, You do your father's biddings and not the devil's. If you continue to live your old life after claiming you are born again, you are simply not born again. Those who are born again know it for the spirt bears witness with them that they are the Sons of GOD. They cannot be lost. John 17:12 is very clear. None was lost of all that God gave Jesus, except the Son of perdition. You either believe the scripture or your emotions. Unfortunately, The blood is greater than your emotions. In Exd 2. Moses escaped Egypt as a murder. In Heb 11, the bible recored his action as action of faith. No mention of him escaping Egypt because he killed. That is the gospel of grace. If you don't agree with it, then go and write your own bible. With all the castigations of Abel Damina's messages, those criticising him still have the most terrible followers in Nigeria. We know of a particular church whose some of her wealthiest members belong to powerful cartel involved in Dollar round tripping and major bank collapses. They here the message of their GOs, who believe in you can lose salvation, yet they are not changed in heart. Their actions brought us to where we are in nigeria today. Abel Damina's messages is librating people from the years of oppression of the GOs. They know people now can read the bible for themselves and understand. That is why they are angry with the Man. Lastly, may I make bold to say that the Scripture does not need special anointing to study and understand. You just have to study the way you study for your university degree. Pail told Timothy, study!!. Please people of God, study. You will realise that you have been deceived for too long. Bible study does not require 40 days fasting and prayer to understand. There are several study aids available online to help you understand scriptures. For the mere fact that a GO said something doesn't make it right. he is not more anointed that the written word. be like the Berean brethren who interrogated pastors of their time by fact checking them with scriptures. This is why people like Daddy Freeze can confront GOs in Nigeria about Tithes, etc. You have been lied to for too long and you took it hook line and sink without checking it out. Christianity is the sweetest thing that can ever happen to a man that truly encounters christ. But your Gos have put a yoke that they themselves cannot bear on you.
But the Bible teaches that Man is a spirit. Jesus was just pointing out the difference between man and ghost. The people who first saw Him after He rose thought He was a ghost . A ghost doesn't have flesh and bones but that doesn't mean man isn't a spirit, a living man is not a ghost. Jesus Himself is a quickning Spirit and we are created in His image and likeness.
Man is a spirit that has a soul and lives in a body. The bible tell us we shall have a body in resurrection. The Luke 24:39 the preacher read points to a resurrected Christ and not his spirit. Am sure if Jesus appears to anyone of us today it will be by his spirit but we will all have this(resurrected) body at resurrection(1cor 15:51-52)
The problem is that you consider sin to be, fornication, adultery, lying, murder, stealing, unforgiveness, etc. What about the very small, innocent sins? Are they not sin too? Do you know that you who passively admired a woman only once a whole day is equally guilty before God as a fornicator who sleeps with 20 women in one day? That is the reason why Salvation (which is actually making heaven) is nit based on your own acts of righteousness but 100% on christ.
When we begin to see sin beyond the physical and see the mind in this equation we will now know that only a speck may survive the measure of God's standard. Man is spirit, soul and body. The three must be present before we say it's man. Therefore, in salvation all three are paid for. Just that in the present the Spirit of God seals man's spirit which is the main repository of divine affairs to keep man aligning in his body and soul till the time of the fullness of the possession of all that Jesus paid for. Renew your mind=soul Your body is God's temple=body He bears witness with your spirit =spirit. Man is this three. As for my take on salvation if for any slightest fall of the saved man his Savior throws him into hell, I wonder if he had a Savior at all. None, is without a fall all through life after being saved. Now, have you wondered the place of spiritual growth for a baby or growing christian whose heart is for his Lord Savior but he still falls while he learns to walk in the truth of his faith. Peradventure the trump sounds will this one for his sin still be cast out? Even to a mature one who because of the weakness of the flesh fell a time will he also burn in hell? Now if it's not defined then heaven will be for the lucky or fortunate saved ones who will be lucky or fortunate not to fall the time of the great trump.
But where is the video clip where Dr Damina precisely said; 'once you saved you can do whatever you like with your body, bcos it's your spirit man that is saved'? I think you're paraphrasing and misquoting what he didn't say. I know Grace preachers who teaches that notion..." Once saved always saved"... But not Dr Damina. He doesn't preach that, he rightly divides the Word. Please show me that video, just like you're showing videos of other preachers who're preaching against that message. You are quoting Dr Damina out of context just bcos he said you can't lose your salvation. Listen to his whole sermon and you will learn that after saying that he Didn't say, " now you can sin all you want bcos you cannot lose your salvation" He never said that. Actually a person who enjoys sinning after getting saved, shows that they're still babies in Christ or they weren't truly saved in the first place.
I love Dr Abel Damina's teachings. He would have a lot of enemies who wont understand his level of indepth knowledge/understanding or refuse to know due to ........., but that is what comes with his calling i guess. I actually don't think he is controversial because he tries to justify most of his statements and answers by backing them up with scriptures. Also I have come to the realization that no one is 100% right about the Bible and that's why it's better for us to know God for ourselves. These guys just wants us to feel guilty so that satan can accuse us, but if you know your right in Christ you will under what the bible is saying andunderstand what Dr AbelDamina is teaching. All has sinned and come short of the glory.
See Ezekiel 18:21 -31 for proper understanding if you need the real revelation of it and do not be decided because if a men turns away from his righteousness according to Ezekiel 18: 21-31 it says if a man turns away from his wicked ways or his sin which he has committed and keeps GODs statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall live and all of his transgressions which he has done shall be forgotten and now of it would be remembered and same way the Bible also said if the man again or a righteous man now again now leave his righteousness and commit “inequity”, and also does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does what did the Bible says here it says, Bible says All the righteousness which he has done shall be remembered because of his unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die and so GOD said in verse 30 and I quote “therefore I will judge you o house of Israel, everyone according to his ways” says GOD repent and turn from all your transgressions. So In verse 32 He said I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies ( and one who dies is he who has received the wages of sin ) so GOD said in verse 32 I have no pleasure in the death of the one who die therefore turn and live, therefore choose live….I know you have a free will but choose life, wisdom has made the revelation clearly known to you that it has been made known to us in Roman; 6:23 the wages of sin is death and the gift of the LORD is eternal life….eternal life is the gift of GOD to the righteous but if the wages of sin is death it means it is death to eternal condemnation not death to rise again to eternal life. It is only the one who agrees and repeatedly live a way and pattern of life after the one who died defeated death and rose again that would also rise again to eternal life and the opposite of it would be to condemnation. Please be quick to repent GOD heal and restore you in the Name of JESUS CHRIST🧎🏾🧎🏾🧎🏾🙏🏾 Grace and peace be multiplied unto us ALL Through JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ❤🙏🏾Amen….
Let no man deceive you.. you can live above sin and fleshly desires.. open yourself to the helping of the holy spirit instead of using craftiness to feel comfortable
Many hyper grace teacher are insincere they run away from scriptures that warns believers from sin. Or they start telling you a lie that the Greek version did not say so!
Actual reality is that it Arome that is mind bending the scriptures bcs his feelings cannotntake the truth of the scripture..he needs to add his own to it. Why arebthese preachers like this? A simple reality of Jesus salvation they dont know and yet they are Apostles...na wa o
1 Corinthians 15:12-18 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up-if in fact the dead do not rise. For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 5 I ask you again, does God give you the Holy Spirit and work miracles among you because you obey the law? Of course not! It is because you believe the message you heard about Christ. Galatians 3:5 NLT 1 John 2:1 [1]My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: Philip 1:6 I pray with great faith for you, because I’m fully convinced that the One who began this glorious work in you will faithfully continue the process of maturing you and will put his finishing touches to it until the unveiling of our Lord Jesus Christ! (TPT) 1 Cor 1:7-8 so that you are not lacking in any spiritual gift [which comes from the Holy Spirit], as you eagerly wait [with confident trust] for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ [when He returns]. 8 And He will also confirm you to the end [keeping you strong and free of any accusation, so that you will be] blameless and beyond reproach in the day [of the return] of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 God is faithful [He is reliable, trustworthy and ever true to His promise-He can be depended on], and through Him you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. AMP NLT 6 This confirms that what I told you about Christ is true. 1 Corinthians 1:6 7 Now you have every spiritual gift you need as you eagerly wait for the return of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 1:7 8 He will keep you strong to the end so that you will be free from all blame on the day when our Lord Jesus Christ returns. 1 Corinthians 1:8 9 God will do this, for he is faithful to do what he says, and he has invited you into partnership with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 Corinthians 1:9 23 There were many priests under the old system, for death prevented them from remaining in office. Hebrews 7:23 24 But because Jesus lives forever, his priesthood lasts forever. Hebrews 7:24 25 Therefore he is able, once and forever, to save those who come to God through him. He lives forever to intercede with God on their behalf. Hebrews 7:25 John 6:37-40 [37]All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. [38]For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. [39]And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. [40]And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. Hebrews 10:10 And in accordance with this will [of God] we [who believe in the message of salvation] have been sanctified [that is, set apart as holy for God and His purposes] through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed) once for all. (AMP) John 10:27-30 [27]My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: [28]And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. [29]My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. [30]I and my Father are one. Jude 1:24-25 [24]Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, [25]To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Salvation authored by Christ is Eternal in nature. What makes you a believer is the gift of eternal life in you, then no man including yourself can snatch you out of God’s hand. Jesus becomes your advocate with promise to save you to uttermost (permanent end). Any person doubting Eternal Salvation for believers, then, the person abinitio does not know what eternal Salvation authored by Christ means and such is ignorant of God's faithfulness and power of God cum ability of Christ to save believers to the end. God becomes your master who will never allow you to be consumed in your musdeeds. My questions for anyone or preacher and this guy Osayi who says you will loose Salvation is that, one, is he without sinless? Two, would he loose his own Salvation? God is not man, He relates to us based on His unchanging nature which is LOVE who takes account of no sin. What we have with God always from beginning is forgiveness. Faith in Christ saves only. Gathering of believers is where faith in Christ and Love of God to humanity through Grace of Christ that saves is taught thoroughly regularly and they grow in the knowledge of Christ and godliness but gathering where people are not sure of God’s love and faithfulness in sustaining their Salvation and thus depend on what they do (morality or self righteousness) to please God, such congregants will forever live under guilt, condemnation and fear of their slave masters who will continue to brainwash them with sleek talks and oratory words to twist the simplicity of the gospel as displayed by this guy Osayi Arome which in turn means they are not saved and he himself does not know what eternal Salvation authored by Christ means.. I pray God open you people eyes of understanding to decipher the truth in the light of Christ's finished works 🙏
Pastors who say once saved forever saved, they themselves are into sins like like fornication, so they say it yo cover their bad behavior. I am a pastor myself just runaway from that church.
If you are the owner of this channel please read this. Go and listen to Abel Damina complete message on the subject before coming online to bear a false witness. Remember you will give account for what you are doing here if truly you are a believer in Jesus Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ said whosoever believes in Him shall never die, perish or lost. A wise thing for anyone to do, is to ask the simple question. "What does it mean to believe in Jesus Christ" if you know the answer and do what it takes to believe in Him, then you are eternally saved, secured and never to perish.
But Abel Damina in many times he contradict the ordinations of GOD and the scripture, I have heard him myself , I don't trust that man at all, I am not sure if he is of the kingdom of GOD our Savior, The LORD GOD of Israel or he is of the kingdom of darkness.
Man is Spirit, has a soul and lives in a body. The Almighty God gave us responsibility FEED EACH OF THEM. The food of the spirit: The Word of God. The food of the soul: The books in the society. The food of the body: eba, semo and gari. So, let us take responsibility.
Man is a spirit that has an earthly body that gives him the right to live on earth. That's what the bible teaches. So what is the apostle saying here? Why didn't he share the message he said he got from the higher authority that contradicts this?
When Jesus rose,He said this; "spirits don't have flesh and bones". As long as man has flesh and bones,he isn't a spirit. Jesus is that authority apostle spoke of.
Man is not a Spirit... God did not create "spirit man", he created man and put His breath (Spirit) in him. The devil can to tamper with that structure through Sin.
Every time no one has listened to Abel Damina full message... what a defeated approach... how do you make claims like this without proof... i have listened to that man Damina say a lot of twisted things that i cant believe some of you actually consume...then again I'm not surprise, if you fail to know God by the spirit, you'll resort to a god that can be found within the scope of your intellectual prowess....
@@keekokkou9467 Hey sir/ma, I'm not fighting you... I am only stating the obvious, don't they too twist the scriptures? Here's my point, in every message there's always a truth in it, the way the messages might be said might not be in the right use of words and all.. The truth still remains they haven't listened to him.
@@keekokkou9467 This is my major comment sir... I copied and pasted it here so you see. If we are not sure of our salvation then we are as stupid and foolish even more foolish than the unbelievers. What is the essence of accepting Christ or believing Christ if I have no assurance for salvation. Bro, I am Saved forever, it doesn't gives me the license to sin, it gives me power to do more for God! I am not Abel Daminas Member, I have read that the holy spirit is a guarantee for my inheritance in Christ... Pastor Arome that is talking about the resurrected Christ, let him go and read what happened to the net break of Fish before he died and after he died. Christ is able to keep me to the uttermost. I AM SAVED!!!!!
@@greenpastureministrygpm4289 Well for me, i believe you can loose salvation if you denounce Christ as the Lord over your life. One thing most persons miss here is the fact that they always quote "Abel Damina said you can continue sinning" which i have never heard him say so, but if you have you can show me. Lastly, are you sure of your own salvation? why should i be uncertain about my salvation? What did you do to be saved? Truth is, why should an unbeliever be unsure of salvation and you as a believer too unsure of salvation, something is wrong. Knowing that you are saved alone should give you the energy to do more for God! For me, Christ has forgiven my past, present and future sins.... Does that means i should live in sin NO!. But the truth about what Christ had done remains valid whether we feel good about it or not.
I tire o. Once saved always saved. If you commit sin as God for forgiveness. We are humans. We are born into sin. Just believe in Christ. We are saved by grace through faith. But if you now renounce Jesus Christ and stop reading the Bible then the individual is not saved. Right ?
"Satan can plant a seed and he will exploit it in the next 150 years" A very interesting comment by one that calls himself an Apostle yet was not an eyewitness of the risen Christ. A little over 100 years ago, a group of people misinterpreted 1 Cor 14 and said it's the tongues of Angels, throwing away 2000 years of sound doctrine. But today, this gibberish is branded as tongues. The arrogance and ignorance!! Has he said anything about the damnable things Joshua Selman has said?
Simply, salvation is a permanent reality, your position in church doesn't guarantee your salvation until you are saved, remember not all who say Lord Lord shall inherit the kingdom
@@betterbelievers4574 Salvation is the deliverance from sin and it's consequences, so the saying that you can't lose your salvation is not acceptable. If you go back to living a life of sin after accepting Jesus as your Lord and saviour it can be said that you've lost your salvation.
So eternal security is mindbending from the devil? Pls shut down your channel if you can't defend the gospel properly. Eternal security is the surety of out Christian faith.
