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ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED? Apostle Michael Orokpo, Apostle Arome Osayi vs Dr. Abel Damina 

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In this intriguing video, we delve into the thought-provoking debate surrounding the concept of eternal security and the belief of "once saved, always saved."
Join us as we witness a compelling discussion featuring prominent speakers Arome Osayi, Michael Orokpo, and Abel Damina. Each of these respected individuals brings forth their unique perspectives on the topic, shedding light on their contrasting views and interpretations.
Explore the complexities of eternal security as they engage in a thought-provoking dialogue, examining biblical references, theological insights, and personal convictions. This captivating video aims to encourage viewers to think critically, fostering a deeper understanding of this significant theological debate.
Tune in to gain valuable insights from these esteemed speakers and broaden your perspective on the concept of eternal security. Don't miss this enlightening conversation that brings together diverse viewpoints for an engaging exploration of faith and salvation.
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The Eternal Security Debate: Once Saved, Always Saved? ft. Arome Osayi, Michael Orokpo, and Abel Damina

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@Odiaabel1563
@Odiaabel1563 9 месяцев назад
On this ground, I agree with Abel Damina. We are making these things difficult for followers because of the simplicity of the gospel.
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
You are sound
@oduduutuk681
@oduduutuk681 9 месяцев назад
chairman your video is expressing bias, Whats the need of the whole comic interlude? if you want to be expository in your clips, then focus on that. Make sound commentary at the end or in-between. when you reach a video not in sync with your, you interject with comic. be wise about content.
@emmanueltshebo5852
@emmanueltshebo5852 18 дней назад
Hebrews 5:8-9 (salvation is eternal)
@edemotu5539
@edemotu5539 6 месяцев назад
TRUTH UNDILUTED ❤
@silvesterndege1616
@silvesterndege1616 4 дня назад
Can Dr. Damina help me understand this scripture of John 15:7
@mayowaoyedokun9828
@mayowaoyedokun9828 4 месяца назад
I think the first question every of these pastors should answer is ? What does it mean to ti be saved? What does it mran to lose your salvation? Are we saying God will remove the Holy Spirit from a Christian who backslided ... What kind of sin will make a person lose salvation, and what's the evidence that a Christian has lost salvation? If a Christian has lost salvation, will the Holy Spirit still be dwelling in him? Lots of questions to answer
@greenpastureministrygpm4289
@greenpastureministrygpm4289 2 месяца назад
He will be quenched
@ruthnatieministries
@ruthnatieministries Год назад
The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature. So God did what the law could not do. He sent his own Son in a body like the bodies we sinners have. And in that body God declared an end to sin’s control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins. Romans 8:3 He did this so that the just requirement of the law would be fully satisfied for us, who no longer follow our sinful nature but instead follow the Spirit. Romans 8:4
@nellyjoy1619
@nellyjoy1619 11 месяцев назад
God is God of mercy
@omnimontana
@omnimontana Год назад
Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Exodus 32:31-33 31 And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. :32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. :33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
@janelyndagwasi5126
@janelyndagwasi5126 8 месяцев назад
Good point, once save always save is devil's doctrine,it promotes people to not take their salvation seriously
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
​@@janelyndagwasi5126how about this...If you are practicing righteousness bcs you want to make heaven.. it's a selfish motive and doesn't prove you love God from your heart. But if you believe he saved you forever and cannot lose it ..your actions afterwards would make you know if you truly love him or not,after all, you believe God's love is unconditional. Those practicing righteousness bcs they don't want to lose salvation are practicing unfeign faith.They have fallen from grace...but he know salvation is a gift from God through faith in Christ.
@anwulidiunordavid8113
@anwulidiunordavid8113 5 месяцев назад
Please what is the name of that message with apostle Mike orokpo at the beginning of this video?
@jmordionochie1909
@jmordionochie1909 Месяц назад
Luke 15:18-19 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee, And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
@skyofmiraclesworldmissions3989
@skyofmiraclesworldmissions3989 27 дней назад
And so...?
@MavisOlebile
@MavisOlebile 2 месяца назад
Help me with the name of the last pastor i the explanation he give on book of Hebrews
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
Orokpo is quoting the gospel to the jew when they will have to endure till the end to earn it..Jesus knew the Jews will reject him, that's why he was quoting the tribulation gospel to them, which is that they will endure till the end by not accepting the mark of the beast.😂mat chp 24 till chp 26. Orokpo is just mixing things up😂...the gospel of Christ was not even preached by Christ himself but by the apostles especially paul... Gospel of faith in Christ dosnt requires works to be saved, though it requires works to get rewards.1 cor 3 vs 13-16..that is where these pastors are missing it.You don't lose What Christ gave as a gift,read romans chp 5...you can only reject it by not receiving it.That is why the angels rejoiced that same day you gave your life to Christ. They didn't wait for you to endure till the end otherwise heaven was foolish for rejoicing over what is not sure😂 Arome is not getting it right at all.. May God open their eyes to see the scriptures correctly. This is gospel of fear not Love, perfect love cast out fear innthebday of judgment..that love there is the love of Christ for us not ours for him. God will perfect the church.however,we will continue to labour in doctrine.
@assibruno3494
@assibruno3494 3 месяца назад
Bless you bro
@Nigel_Nk
@Nigel_Nk 9 месяцев назад
If I can be granted an access to youTubes database am gonna shut down all these accounts of you so called RU-vidrs uh you are misleading people with your short videos just trying to find words to speak against men of God. 😡
@nyamushanjadidier1537
@nyamushanjadidier1537 Месяц назад
Galatians 5:19-21 proves that Salvation wants us to grow Spiritual Fruits and failure to grow them and grow contrary fruits will lead you to not enter God's Kingdom.
@nzebunwaprincewell1054
@nzebunwaprincewell1054 19 дней назад
You're not making sense
@manuelprime7881
@manuelprime7881 6 месяцев назад
Andrew!! 😘😁😁
@hycienthemmanuel9857
@hycienthemmanuel9857 11 месяцев назад
Put all scriptures together. This subject is clear.. Once save is NOT always saved.
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
Put all scriptures together,once saved is forever saved...so..I will like you to put out the other scriptures that makes you think you can lose it....the major problem is that we allow our mind through the fear of losing it interpret the bible to us instead of us allowing bible tell us the truth.Damina is allowing the bible tell him the truth that's why he fully persuaded..pls paste all the scriptures that suggests we can lose it, let's learn together...we are one brethren actually but we know in part
@omaraezekiel5348
@omaraezekiel5348 7 месяцев назад
Which made you convinced that you can't lose even after you live a careless life?
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
@@omaraezekiel5348 it's a corrupt mind that reason of living life anyhow..what did the scriptures say About salvation? you're only saved once and the works of righteousness is just fruit of salvation,but you bring assumption that you live anyhow,but Paul told you how can we that are saved live in sin? God forbid...
@obedaserenje3192
@obedaserenje3192 4 месяца назад
Once saved always saved
@ngozinwankwo5051
@ngozinwankwo5051 11 месяцев назад
Oh Sweet Holy Spirit,teach me your way. There's so much confusion in church created by these pastors.
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
Holy spirit have revealed this things in the bible but men will distort it bcs they are unlearned...The job of Apostles is to defend the faith and doctrine.paul debated almost all the apostles to establish the truth ..on this Topic.. the church should listen to Damina....even Jesus promise and they shall never lose it. You lose what is not authentic but we know God is. So Don't be confused my dear
@omaraezekiel5348
@omaraezekiel5348 7 месяцев назад
Damina is wrong in everything including the subject matter here. Even the references he's interpreting them wrongly.
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
@@omaraezekiel5348 okay.....Ur opinion ,not scripture
@ngozinwankwo5051
@ngozinwankwo5051 11 месяцев назад
You can't continue to sin bcos grace abounds. One can wander away from the love from, it's the same love that brings you back by the same love. Remember that God took His eyes away from Jesus bcos of our sins on Him. Wandering away is called backsliding
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
Beloved😂 you're so funny..so you know that God took away his eyes from Christ bcs of sin and you still believe you can lose it... Christ who knew no sin was made sin so that he can pass his righteousness to us as a gift...that means when God looks at you,bcs you're in Christ,he cannot judge you bcs he sees only Christ that he already judged.that is what was finished on the cross but to those who are not in Christ,will be judged by God bcs they are not in Christ. Christ in the believers removes the desire for sin bcs he is in the believers. Where there is sin, Grace did much more abound....It is bcs you cannot lose it that why Paul said so knowing this fact,shall we sin that grace may abound...God forbid.i.e how can we that are dead to sin serve it.... you're dead to sin as a believer that is your faith in Christ
@imayoola
@imayoola 5 месяцев назад
@@aresaolutola8030👏🏽👏🏽
@DavidUmah-tr7vc
@DavidUmah-tr7vc 4 месяца назад
Heresy!!!
@user-pd7vq7wt9q
@user-pd7vq7wt9q Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Flight by night pastors 😂😂😂😂😂 Damina my man
@saravilorio2298
@saravilorio2298 Год назад
The church the church …what is our problem what’s the fight for honestly this is why I don’t participate in churches I just stay home and read my bible and the Holy Spirit will teach me the right way when it’s worship time I worship among the believers and leave
@nathanogohi1698
@nathanogohi1698 Год назад
Hebrews 10:25. Look for a living church and join. Follow bible closely.
@jennifervasco2860
@jennifervasco2860 10 месяцев назад
All this arguments, pls allow the Holy spirit to teach you
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
Holy spirit have revealed this things in the bible but men will distort it bcs they are unlearned...The job of Apostles is to defend the faith and doctrine.paul debated almost all the apostles to establish the truth ..on this Topic.. the church should listen to Damina....even Jesus promise and they shall never lose it. You lose what is not authentic but we know God is. So Don't be confused my dear
@angrybird2107
@angrybird2107 4 месяца назад
The disciples denied him three times .. did they lose their salvation?
@sstemba7090
@sstemba7090 Год назад
"If you want to talk me, talk to me direct don't go through the corners!" 😂
@blessed4019
@blessed4019 7 месяцев назад
STRONGLY BELIEVE in once saved, forever saved! A small example is, when Jesus promised the thief on the cross that he would be with him in paradise on that same day, Jesus died immediately but the thief stayed alive several hours after. So between the time Jesus promised him paradise and the time he (the thief eventually died) do you think he did not commit any sins? I can most certainly assure you he committed sin whether in his thoughts, speech or action. Yet, that did not nullify the fact that he went to be with Christ. Once Jesus says you are saved, you remain forever saved! Shalom
@user-ln6pl6hs1z
@user-ln6pl6hs1z Месяц назад
Your argument is kindergarten
@blessed4019
@blessed4019 Месяц назад
@user-ln6pl6hs1z By their comments, you shall know them (ignorant)!
@emmanuelaromeh4816
@emmanuelaromeh4816 Месяц назад
You don't know Bible keep quiet person who was the cross ready to be killed you said he never committed sins may God forgives you
@blessed4019
@blessed4019 Месяц назад
@emmanuelaromeh4816 Stark ignorance correcting knowledge! Sorry!
@apostlesamuelkiariemuthoni7754
@apostlesamuelkiariemuthoni7754 4 месяца назад
Daminah false teaching will finish you.
@nyamushanjadidier1537
@nyamushanjadidier1537 Месяц назад
And John 15:1-5 Shows that it is possible to be cut off from the Vine when you willfuly refuse to grow Fruits. So,once saved is only forever saved to the branches who abide in Christ Jesus as the vine.
@ShepherdMbombi
@ShepherdMbombi 13 дней назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 what did I just hear. When a couple divorce then that means you can loose salvation hawoooooo man of God 😂😂😂😂😂😂 have you read the book of Hosea ? Jesus said I give them eternal life none shall perish and none can pluck them out of my hand then He continues to say my Father is greater than all none can pluck them out of my Father's hand. You are doubly secured come on saints
@ChisomOkolie12
@ChisomOkolie12 24 дня назад
You are mocking men of God, very bad 👎🏾
@juliusakrong146
@juliusakrong146 Год назад
An inability to present and explain eternal salvation in the simplicity of the Gospel of Christ is a travesty. However, that is one of the marks of ministers who are part of the many who are called, but are not among the chosen few - Matthew 20:1-16 - Yes, they have been allowed into the vineyard, because the labourers are few, but are not the chosen ministers of the work of God’s absolute grace, that we receive through the complete work of Jesus Christ. They simply do not understand who the Child of God is, because they look to their own abilities, pretending they are reliant on God. They frown on one's absolute reliance on God's grace and only preach bondage and confusion into the lives of the flock. Despite his struggles, which by God's own strategy, (Romans 8:19-25) are inevitable parts of the earthen vessel that holds God’s treasure of a new creation, the child of God has no bone of rebellion towards God. Take it or leave it. These ministers forget that we become Jesus's sheep, whose ears are inclined to His voice, (John 10:27-28) yearning always to do His will, in spite of the struggles for which we need encouragement. They treat the Children of God, like the blood of Christ is not potent enough to complete what He started, after bringing us from the kingdom of darkness into His Glorious Kingdom of Light. Forgetting that the just shall live by faith. Well, may it be onto them according to their faith. How different then, are we from the religions that rely on their works and rituals for their salvation, with so much insecurity and bondage? What a big shame. Let's step out of religion into personal relationships with God through Jesus Christ. Our way of escape from this confusion, is a nurtured personal closeness to God through His word. It is God alone who will assure us of our place in Him. May we have personal experiences, of God wrapping His arms around and unconditionally assuring us of our eternal place in Him. Not what men, who do not understand and cannot comprehend the mechanics of our eternal salvation, no matter who they claim to be, says about us. You cannot give what you do not have. You will not say eternal salvation does not exist, if you indeed have an assurance of it yourself. In the first place, why will our eternal God save us, if He cannot guarantee our eternal salvation in Him??
@exousiatvgh
@exousiatvgh Год назад
Yes Sir!
@samuelgodson-amamoo4386
@samuelgodson-amamoo4386 Год назад
Jesus already answered this question. Read John 15:1-5; Revelation 3.
@Ucwilliams
@Ucwilliams Год назад
Pls what of a man that gives his life to Christ and tomorrow he becomes a native doctor: Is he still save?😂😂
@Ucwilliams
@Ucwilliams Год назад
Sir you can loose your salvation..
@Ucwilliams
@Ucwilliams Год назад
He that thinketh that he stands should take heed less he falls.
@alikelechisamuel2951
@alikelechisamuel2951 Год назад
I don't judge pastors but Mr Damiana please try to explain yourself,I truly understand where you are saying but many will be mislead,take it easy. Please our pastors make una dey learn from each others abeg . You can be saved but not safe believe it, it's just as simple as that.
@aresaolutola8030
@aresaolutola8030 7 месяцев назад
What are you typing? 😂I don't really understand you? Are you saying Damina is giving license for sin by saying we can't lose it? Damina is showing you scriptural truth.he is not trying to help God to help you..you know the way our parents tells us that if you touch a girl, she will get pregnant. And that lie kept you till you grew old but later discovered the truth that touching a girl will not get her pregnant. And that got you angry for the lies they told you bcs it was your desire.Immediatly, you will start sleeping with girl bcs that was your real desire tamed with a lie,this is what these pastor that claim you can lose salvation are doing..they are keeping you in the foolishness that you can work for you salvation. They are telling you this lie that you can lose it,some in ignorant though.But Damina is telling you the scriptural truth..so from the start you can know if you have salvation or not. If I know that I can't lose it and still have the desire for righteousness, it's a discernment for me that God is in me, but if you who believe you can lose it and now know you cannot lose and that gave you license to sin,it should be discernment to believers that you were never saved in the first place bcs the bible said he that is born of God does not work in darkness..i.e does not sin... This scripture below is a prove that Damina is correct. “But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,” - Rom 4:5 (NKJV) And I can give you more scriptures....If you don't understand somethings,humble yourself and ask questions rather than concluding hastily..for we know in part
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