Let’s be honest, if it wasn’t a celebrity, and these were the actions of a random guy or a homeless person, they would just be thrown in jail and no one would be saying anything about “getting help.”
He knows that if he targeted men, he’d get clocked in the head and never see the light of day. Women are unfortunately an easy target for guys like him and it’s absolutely despicable.
RESPECT how Ezra chooses to identify himself. He has stated in the past he does not identify as a man or woman. It is obvious he identifies as a criminal.
What’s it gonna take for Warner Bros to actually do something here? Does Ezra have to straight up murder someone in order to get an exec to raise an eyebrow? This is ridiculous! If this was any other studio there would be at least some type of acknowledgment or action.
@@dustinbridges6831 if they fire him before the movie is released it will cost them hundreds of millions of dollars. They will probably wait until after flashpoint is released. This dude is just throwing away money. I don’t get it.
So let me get this straight...on a Flash TV show the actor that played Ralph Dibney was fired for saying mean things YEARS before he was on the show (and he was already on for 2-3 years when it came out). He apologized, saying that he was just being young and stupid but was fired anyway... ...and the Flash movie actor has committed multiple acts of assault against women, but that's OK... Idk anymore
LOL! We all know why WB is scared out of their minds to fire them - nobody's willing to say the words. We all know activists will use this as an excuse to attack the studio.
From what I heard from insiders & other RU-vid Arrowverse centered channels is that WBTV is pretty much independent from Warner bros features. WBTV makes independent decision, production, goals & ideals from Warner bros feature on whether to keep an actor or not. Warner bros features on the other hand only has a say in whether or not say anything A-list character like Batman can have a tv series or even appearance for that matter.
I agree, it was stupid. They only fired Hartley Sawyer to appease the woke mob, since that info came out at the height of the racially-motivated riots. Still, it was incredibly stupid of WB to not look into his tweets before hiring him and then firing him years later as if his tweets were some secret.
Reshooting all his scenes would be a nightmare for all the people in the crew. If I was WB, I would just release it as is but put out a statement immediately condemning Ezra Miller and make it clear that they’re severing all ties with him going forward.
Well said, because he needs to go after the first flash movie comes out. Just do the second one or third if so with a new actor that can replace him very well..
they have to put the movie out no matter what or else they can get sued by the other people that worked on the film, remember people sign CONTRACTS for these movies to be put out in theatres
The odd thing is that Johnny Depp was "fired" just based on allegations and Ezra gets arrested and nothing, and they were supposed to be in the same movie!
I hate to say it but I feel like its because he is gay and the world is very woke these days. Not fair how Depp was treated and yet ezra miller can assault people multiple times wtf
As much as he should get help, he must face the consequence of his actions. No excuse for assaulting people REPEATEDLY. The movie should be recast regardless of the cost or, just release it on streaming. WB being so quiet about Ezra Miller but fired Johnny Depp? Really nothing to say about that company.
Erin spitting nothing but truth. Keep in mind people this is just the mess we know, there is a good chance WB has been covering Ezra’s messes as much as they could and we know nothing of that, heck, might be the reason they pushed it off to next year anyways. At any rate, way past time for Ezra to go.
You can't help a person that can't be helped. I'm tired of the "get them some help" line. If they want help, they can go get it themselves. Fire them and let's move on. They aren't the only person that can play The Flash. Someone else can.
Ezra is assaulting multiple women I'm shocked that the women in this audience can't say anything to say that ezra is an abuser of women . Seriously why is this panel thinking that money has far more importance as this evil guys behaviour
As someone who dealt with issues like this personally in the past, this seems like clear Xanax addiction activity. It checks all the boxes. The outbursts, the bravado, etc.
this may offend so .... you've been warned. as far as I am aware Hartley Sawyer isn't in the alphabet community and therefore any sins of the past may as well be in the present. can't explain Will Smith or Amber Heard.
@@leonardfabian8942 gay and trans people who are obnoxious about it and center their whole lives around their identity and if you don't worship them you'll be branded a heretic, I mean a bigot.
I don't get it. Stars like Miller and Heard keep getting hired for Warner Bros' tentpole movies from DCEU while Cavill, whom a lot of fans like, is having a difficul time trying to star as Superman again despite not creating any controversies
It’s INCREDIBLY frustrating that Johnny Depp who I BELIEVE lost his job due to false allegations (again my opinion) but yet Ezra Miller continues to get arrested and WB does nothing. Ridiculous
@@lennzo9231 absolutely not, actors or just rich and famous people in general have been ostracised and ruined for far less, hate to keep bringing it up but will smiths over a slap just the other week has had his career put on hold and criticism from all corners, this guy has had multiple multiple police reports against him in the past month and is still running around doing stupid shit, more to it than just being rich and famous to get away with it… backlash from a polarising community sounds like a more reasonable and likely motivation for just continuously brushing his issues under the rug over him being rich and famous
He threatened to kill people and now he is violent. This is a huge red flag and could get worse if people keep sweeping things under the rug. Somebody needs to intervene. Has he no family or someone to step in and help him?
Even if they recast and reshoot the movie, the damage has been done PR wise because it will forever be remembered as the cursed movie that's been delayed forever and everyone will still be asked about ezra miller. Imagine what kind of questions ezras' replacement will get all throughout the marketing.
@@kavehteimory6413 They and them are grammatically correct singular pronouns actually. For example "give them another drink" or "yes, they drove themself home".
This goof is done. Done. It’s always” oh he just needs help” then so does everyone who does bad shit then? Robbing, gangsters, then all need help. Stop babying him. He’s a regular dude that needs to face consequences for what he done like all us. You lose your job if this happens to us. Ezra is done
You can definitely still release the movie but they need to get out in front of this. Suspend him, confirm he is getting help, force a public apology from him, and then keep him off the press tour and release the movie. It's unfair to fans and the people that worked hard on it to just not release it.
He’s destroying hisself and his career. You can’t “help” someone who doesn’t want to be helped. What they should do is release the flash movie but Find a way to change the ending… Or at least an end credit scene Resulting in him getting stuck in the speed force and bringing in Wally West for the next movies. That way they can’t break away from Ezra and cast someone new.
@@aang958 Nope. Wrong. People can't just "choose pronouns." Ezra Miller is an adult human male and he is a he and will always be a he. Trans women are actually biological men and trans men are actually biological women. Did you know that? The truth and reality matter. In fact, it is the _only_ thing that matters.
I love the questions Erin brought to the table, and the more I think about it, I wonder if it has to do with the political climate regarding trans gender individuals. Could it be that the WB is afraid of any backlash in that regard?
Most of the LGBT community are saying screw them from what I’ve seen, they’re turning this into an issue of “we can’t fire them, they’re non-binary how will that look?” When there is no issue. If Ezra is being a violent asshat then they need to be removed from the film and most of the community would say “yeah, screw them they attacked a woman”
If he wasn’t rich or had a regular job, no one would say get him help or I feel bad for him. They would say lock him up and the person would automatically lose their job. Actors aren’t above the law or consequences.
Empathy and consequence don’t have to be mutually exclusive. I think they are human and deserve empathy, even when they don’t deserve it. Drop the Old Testament schtick.
The only reason he is not getting fired is because he is non binary and woke. Nothing else. For woke people, your labels are more important than the bad shit anyone could do.
If the movie is already shot and close to completion then just dump it on HBO Max and hope for the best. There's no way this can be released theatrically.
Honestly, if I was WB, I would probably throw Ezra out of the movie and sue them for tanking it through their unacceptable and frankly downright illegal behavior. While I get that you sometimes have to give people second chances, it feels to me like they're on their seventh chance by this point. No more.
I'm not understanding Johnny depp gets fired on accusations from a crazy person while Ezra is literally beating a women with a chair no chimes to cancel fire or get this guy into some kind of rehab. Its crazy
Part of why he’s still on the film is that this is happening outside continental US. Imagine if this had happened in LA…the coverage would be much greater.
I don’t want to turn this into a DC vs MCU thing, but this type of thing is exactly why I think studios should adopt the MCU method of casting their actors. Sarah Finn, the casting director for almost the entire MCU, personally meets up with the actors who are in final stages on multiple occasions to get a feel of how personable and friendly they are. That is why we always get hilarious interviews with MCU actors every time there’s a press tour, because the actors are naturally like that. Other studios should take notice, good natured people deserve these opportunities over egotistical weirdoes, it’ll also save them money in the long term.
@@j.j.q1379 You mean Barry Keoghan, who got drunk in Ireland in his own apartment and didn’t harm a single person around him? Yeah what a total psycho. /s
@@alexfern3063 I’m allowed to post my opinions as well. There is perhaps other stuff that no one knows about because they keep it hush hush but the thing is things happen and clearly this guy needs help. The other guy also according to the law broke the law or he wouldn’t have gone arrested. Clearly it’s different but it’s still the law according to where he came from lol.
DCEU has so much baggage and this should be the last straw , I hate saying this but it’s time to start from scratch , completely fresh with new actors in a new universe
Ezra is acting anyway either 21 or 22-year-old actor new to the scene, and overwhelmed by Newfame, would act. But he’s 29, think about the other actors like Brad Pitt, Will Smith… In his late 20s that is, Tom Cruise, they didn’t have crazy scandals like this at the same age. Ezra isn’t young anymore, it’s been five years since justice league came when he was a youthful 22 yr old, he is old enough to know better. He is going to harm the DC brand, and no one is going to want to see his upcoming flash movie. If he keeps up his attitude, Marvel cinematic universe will be the only game in town
This has been going on with actors for years and years. It’s no different now then it was before. Only difference is now we hear about it instantly on social media. He needs help no doubt but let’s not all of a sudden pretend movie studios really care about anything but money.
If WB doesn't want the added expense of replacing Ezra in the movie, I wonder if they just dunp the Flash movie directly onto HBO Max. (If the movie actually exists, that is)
You can actually see John struggling doing these pauses before choosing the right pronoun for Ezra. And then there's Robert with Mr. Miller, zero fucks given xD
I keep saying this over and over again. For those that want the Snyderverse to continue let me tell you it ain't gonna happen because of obvious reasons. Ezra Miller is getting arrested, Amber Heard is on trial right now and she could lose and Warner Bros kept defending her, Ray Fisher had his stuff with Warner Bros, Ben Affleck is leaving Batman, Henry Cavill is almost gone as Superman, Wonder Woman 1984 didn't do so well. Let's face it. The only people that they have in their good graces are Gal Godot and Jason Momoa. So honestly look I know Zack Snyder's justice league was amazing but I think it's time to just bury this DC Extended Universe and start fresh maybe with this Robert Pattinson universe but yeah just end the DCEU now
@@hmw4166 either way what I'm saying is that the Snyderverse is not worth saving now because of what is happening to their actors that are in these movies. Just reboot the freaking thing, continue with Robert Pattinson and start from there if u wanna make a Cinematic Universe if not that's fine. Let Disney be the Cinematic Universe company and Warner Bros can do what they do best which is make solo superhero projects. Not every movie studio needs a Cinematic Universe
@@thewolfofwallstreet627 you're right. But idk I just don't see them doing another Justice League team up movie anymore cause yes they can still do Aquaman and Wonder Woman and there's a SLIGHT chance they can do a Superman but I don't see that happening and again Ben Affleck is gone and they clearly said that Pattinson Batman is a separate world so yeah and Ezra Miller is ruining his career. So I don't think they can continue this DCEU with only two characters and one Anti-Hero in Harley Quinn and Peacemaker.
@@thewolfofwallstreet627 honestly I don't think they will continue Wonder Woman or release the Flash. Like John Campea said I don't think the new owner of WB Discovery will let all this slide.
@@thewolfofwallstreet627 true but with the flash how are they gonna continue with promoting? How will they handle talking to the press? Ezra Miller can't go out to promote the movie and talk to the press cause they will probably only want to talk about his incidents and he's the star of the movie. So if they can't scrap it than just do what Disney did with Death on The Nile and just quietly put on HBO Max and be done with it. That's the only thing I can see happening other than just reshooting all the scenes with Ezra Miller on with a different actor. Cause I don't see this movie just continue to be promoted with Ezra Miller showing up on the trailers and then I also can't see them doing press with the cast because no one will want to talk to Ezra Miller. Even with the contracts forcing them to do it
I think you keep the movie the way it is, move Michael Keaton into the lead press role, and once the movie comes out cut off all business relations with him. I know it might draw eyes that the star isn’t promoting his own film but it’s better than having him out there.
When Ezra's only punishment is not participating in interviews at press screenings for the latest Fantastic Beasts movie he is not being punished. That just gives him more time and opportunity to create chaos that results in his arrest. WB/DC is supposed to be under new management, this is the time to show there is a new boss in town.
Not seeing this Flash film with Miller. Person literally has an issue with attacking women. Done. Reshoot scenes or do a deep fake and move on. You can reshoot anything and you can have him Ezra in some of movie and simply replace him. New company can just write off loss and needs to rebuild DC anyway.
Ezra can be sued by WB for violation of a “morality clause” one would assume WB put in their contract. But it is not about Ezra. Flash is a kid’s superhero. He is the most popular DC character on CW. I believe Ezra was miscast at start; however, now you must replace him to protect the brand. It is not about one movie, but future movies. You can’t have a person who routinely attacks women acting as your comic book hero.
So now WB has to contemplate the reality of having to recast yet another pivotal character for Fantastic Beasts 4(should this film happen). As for The Flash, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they just cut their losses and send it to HBO Max. Miller's current situation is going to overshadow everything he does going forward. Before this, I thought maybe WB could sit the guy down and issue an ultimatum: get help immediately or be dismissed. But now we're at the point of no return. That said, if RDJ can come back from where he was 20-25 years ago then there's hope for Ezra- if he's willing to try
Has anybody noticed that Ezras outbursts seem more often than not to target women? I haven't yet heard a single person comment on this aspect of these incidents.
IMO the situation has gone past removing Ezra and now we should be concerned about helping him from hurting himself or anybody else further and WB is most equipped to do so .
I completely agree WB’s in between a rock and a hard place. I don’t know if Flash is redeemable now, being delayed already and now this stuff! I could see them releasing to HBOMAX later but even that might be a little beyond late. Idk it’s a tough situation for the company.