Giorge’s analysis on Kai being essentially ineffective in the 1st and 2nd phase of the game is spot on. Watch couple of our opening games where we weren’t fluid in the build and everything felt predictable; Rice at 6 offered less progressive passes, Kai was almost shying away from the ball or didn’t have the skills to turn and open play then we were left with our captain having to drop deep to move the ball up top.
AFTV needs to employ Giorge man: He clearly understands the game and not merely a statistical merchant. From a scouting standpoint if he were a footballer, I’d describe him as a generational talent. Watch out for big punditry opportunities in the future my friend 🙌🏿
It's possible for a player to have a good game or "play well" and still be not ideal for the team. When you go down from a CM (Xhaka) who averages 60 touches a game, to one who averaged 31 a game (Havertz at CM), you've lost touches in the second line wether you like it or not. If you replace those touches with Fullbacks, fair enough, I'm fine with role changes, but it means those touches no longer exist in the middle third. Havertz played his 31 touches perfectly in the Aston Villa game. Yet we were probably 30 touches (IN THE MIDDLE THIRD) short of being able to force Villa back because we have the ball facing their last line rather than their strikers. It's not JUST about him in CM, it's about how much less time the ball spends in the middle third when he plays there.
George is absolutely spot on about Havertz. He’s not really a midfielder and he isn’t very facilitative. His iq positioning wise and off the ball work is elite but he doesn’t have the personality (imo) to be on the ball in attack
I think giving Karl Hein an Emi Martinez route is a good idea (aside from the last bit, haha). The raw material is all there; we used to say the same things about Martinez, even right before he came in after the Leno-Maupay incident, and then killed it. A sweeper keeper who can improve and has a ceiling; let him have a couple of loans (Saliba-esque), upgrade his loan team for the second year, and then bring him back and analyse his progress and either integrate him or evaluate and sell.
idk why but I have alot of belief that Edu and team ARE waiting for both Gyokeres and Osimhen's price to go down to the level we want ~60mil. The lack of links and perceived activity is likely part of moves to help that deflation. Napoli has just been very stubborn about that release clause, moreso than expected. BUT their options are running thin. We'll see. I do think Gyokeres is their 2nd option tho, to be sought only if Osimhen deal finally falls through.
Re heavertz in the midfield: i feel like against bayern oodergard couldve dropped in the pivot and havertz could've played roaming 10 to remove the man marking of Leimer. I feel it would've freed up both players. Less predicatbale. And most midfielders cant track with havertz cause hes a running beast. Just a thought
Guys l love your channel. I have followed you individually for quite some time before you teamed up and l still watch your channels and that's what brought to the Canon pod. It pains me to say this but please trim the fat on the intros you don't need to do the cringe banter intros like what other podcasts do. You are more interesting, insightful and funnier than that. For me the first minute or so I struggle to watch. My apologies it this comes across as offensive but that not my intention. l am a very huge fan so I hope this comment is taken meant. Much love
Every time Havertz plays in midfield all you see is criticism, even when he played well (like against Wolves, Liverpool (Pre-season), Burnley, West Ham, Crystal Palace etc). It's an agenda but I also agree that my issue with him is he can't play deeper, to me that's not a problem when you have Partey behind him who is comfortable getting the ball to him through the lines but when yoh have Rice behind him who isn't then you see the problems. That's why I think he's better as a 9 because the midfield dynamic of Rice, Havertz and Ødegaard doesn't work. He still plays that role as a box crasher but he's able to get on the ball in positions he wants without holding the team back but instead improving it.
Is it possible for a player to have impressive stats in a given role, yet still face criticism from fans? I find it fascinating how there’s such a stark contrast between the statistics and public opinion when it comes to Havertz’s performance in midfield. It always makes me wonder why there’s such a divide between what the numbers show and people’s judgments. It shouldn’t be this divisive. I have never seen a player being awarded MOTM, with shitty game stats.
@TheCannonPod wrong again giorge, it's a tough listen often. They gave him a new contract because he was out of contract but he is homegrown, so worth keeping
If you really want to know who Arsenal are buying look at who Chelsea,City,or Brighton or a smaller club doesn’t want. We don’t buy who we should buy but go for the best deal .
@@sij809Exactly! The alternative being to stick with Eddie for a third year running. Come on, we cannot afford to waste this crop of players. Sticking with Eddie and winning nothing yet again means we will lose players like Saliba and Saka just like Van Persie and Fabregas before them.
The 'don't NOT improve' point is really irritating. It implies the world will end if we don't sign a player RIGHT NOW. First, we have improved. Second, if the window closes and we haven't bought a striker, given our finances, I'm gonna assume it's because none of the options interested the coach. If that means we have more money in January or next summer to buy Isak, because we didn't piss it away on someone who makes us .3% better, I'm cool. The VO stuff is just really, really weird to me. So many elite clubs can do with a star striker, but no one is interested? Either everyone is playing chicken with Napoli, or they know something we don't.
Yes but then again Arsenal said the same thing when Kudus was on the market for 25-30m. Now tell me he wasn’t worth a punt even before he joined WHU? There’s always players on the market who can improve us and provide depth. Moving Fabio to the wings when he’s done absolutely nothing to prove himself and think that’s fine is dangerous. We’re a Jesus and Saka injury away from not scoring goals, both of which seem likely. We have no transitional threat, and we have nothing we can bring off the bench. It’s doesn’t imply the world will end, it implies us having to maximise the position we’re in, Saliba and the like aren’t waiting forever to start seeing some trophies. If we don’t win anything again this coming year, I see a few players heads being turned. We are in the best most healthy position we’ve ever been to attract top talent. It has to be done, who they get should be upto them but they should be doing their homework on who can improve us.
@@NakulKrishna you've kind of made my point by bringing up Vieira. MA isn't moving him out there because that's his best position, he's moving him there because he doesn't trust him in the middle of the park imo. It feels like he's incredibly anal about that. It's why talking about players like Leao is a non starter for me, even beyond the 'let me dream!' aspect. I suspect that even if you handed Leao to MA for free, he still wouldn't want him. At this point, we're hitching our wagons to Arteta. VO seems to tick all the boxes though, maybe we're just slow rolling it, confident in our quality to handle the first five weeks as we are (not that any new signings right now would play much early). I AM firmly against getting any player just because they might improve us a tiny bit though, mostly because I want us to go BIG on a game changer, on someone like Musiala or Isak, when they're available.
Forget about all this kai havertz experiments arsenal should sign players that fits to the position, sign merino and viktor gyökeres we don't really have time for experiments.
It’s purely your and fans’ perception. You too focused on the club not wanting to see the whole picture. Basically it’s quality of business over quantity.
Because they are 50M deals, have different timeframes, which means that you can work on two deals simultaneously but close one on july and another on august, giving the impression that "they only work on one deal at a time". Add that to all the outgoing negotiations.
You can have your pipe dreams about osimhen all you want if we don’t shift nketiah we aren’t getting a forward, a bloke who fans think we should get 30m for when he was awful outside of Sheffield United and Fulham
Knowing Arsenal let me tell you exactly what will happen. Arsenal will not sign Gyokeres. Arsenal will not sign Victor Osimeh. They will end up signing some mediocre cast off or not sign anyone. And will come 3rd. They are in such a good position to sign a big striker but they won't do it. They have no interest in signing a great striker. I'm just surprised that all this Arsenal pundits don't know their club by now. Stingy and slow
With Kai Havertz in the midfield Arsenal just basically lose a player. He just plays a false 9 (or a secret 9, in this case) which means there's no "real" left 8 and redundant strikers who don't tend to play off each other very often or well. I hate to mention the results but they speak for themselves. What does he do different in the midfield that he doesn't already do as a false 9? or... what advantage is there to playing him there? Edit: well, George made the same argument.
