Arthur gets speed, he outdrew Micah himself and took down legendary gunslingers. Micah gets IQ, he manipulated Dutch and fooled the whole gang Combat easily goes to Arthur Weapons obviously goes to Arthur, he literally has an entire arsenal, even canonically, of rifles, shotguns and snipers. Micah would probably get experience. some of this is just- so wrong lol..
I dont think Micah really manipulated dutch, I think Dutch just became more lost and insane after losing so many folks and then Hosea was the tipping point where he didnt care anymore
@@BiffyTheFoxYou’re 100% correct. The only reason the final encounter was as crazy as it was were dude to the Pinkertons. Milton was living in the gangs heads rent free and really was the one who did the most damage along with Molly.Micah only happen to tell things that Dutch wanted to hear or already knew, Micah didn’t manipulate anyone in the camp at all. All the civilians of the gang felt unsafe after Molly was killed and saw how everything was going to shit so they left, John was at black water and saw what Micah and Dutch did and didn’t trust them, Abigail only trusted Arthur and John in the gang, Sadie and Charles weren’t there long enough to feel like a long time member and both equally hated Micah.Everyone saw through him and in Arthur’s journal he knew more about what was going on then what he let on and was smart enough to see through all of Dutch’s plans and save the remaining gang with a plan he barely came up with in less than a day, all of Micah’s plans ended in shit and lived off of stolen time
Skill, Combat, Hax go to Dutch because he taught Arthur and John everything, That includes Dead Eye and Fighting Styles. Dutch has his own Version of Dead Eye and he taught Arthur and John
@@Trelawnyrdr2 He gets combat easily, He taught Arthur and John how to fight, and how to use deadeye. In his Old age he was able to shoot john in the mountains
Датч безусловно сделал Артура таким какой он есть, если Осия заложил в нём мудрость и справедливость, то Датч научил его сражаться и в совершенстве владеть огнестрельным оружием, не будем забывать что Датч в РДР1 попал Джону в бинокль с расстояния не менее 60 метров. Датч по-прежнему очень быстрый стрелок, во время взятия поместья Брэйтуэйтов, Датч за считанные секунды убивает 3 бойцов поместья. Сражался против частной армии на Гуарме вместе с Артуром
@@namedclaiming821 they both was tought from the same "father" that is dutch van der line, they are both brothers and should have the same lvl of skill
@@Heavy4895not necessarily seeming as arthur was an outlaw his whole life while john was only for a portion technically. Although I think 1911 John vs Arthur is close I think Arthur wins. Unless he has the in game deadeye cuz that was broken in rdr1
IQ идёт Артуру, а не Джону, да порой смекалка Джона работает что надо, но если учесть то как он просрал свою жизнь это просто натуральный тупизм, другое дело Артур который понимал что Майка предатель и делал всё возможное чтобы спасти Семью Джона
@@whentheroach9964 he literally was the main reason he went unhinged, also the fact that micah also manipulated most of the gang to even have Bill and javier side with him.
@@Durzeo sorta late but Javier and Bill were loyal freaks to the end plus Hosea and Arthur were his advisors (usually Hosea) on his plans and he went off the hook in 5 and 6
😂😂😂no. Arthur vs John: Strenght: Arthur Speed John Durability Arthur Endurance John Iq ARTHUR Battle iq ARTHUR Feats Arthur Agility John Draw speed John Acurracy Arthur Winner: Arthur high- extreme diff
@@anthonybastos1040 durability: john was shot almost 50-70 times by the pinkertons at the end of rdr1 and was still alive for a solid 40 or 50 seconds and maybe even more. he survived while being frozen in the mountains and being attacked by wolves for a few days. he literally got mauled by a bear in the epilogue chapter 2 with sadie and he walked it away. john was shot off a moving train and had to walk almost a marathon to camp while being extremely wounded and bleeding. endurance: same explanation for durability battle iq: john has more battle experience than arthur and has better deadeye, quickdraw and accuracy in rdr1. feats: singlehandedly overthrew the mexican government just for his family. need i say more? accuracy: in one of the missions of rdr1 where u have to prove to the people that the snake oil scam is actually true, john easily shot the animal skull from afar with ease. then was challenged by a man, saying he was fake. the man moved his hat around in the air and challenged john to shoot it, and john shot it easily and then when the man tried to draw on john, john easily shot the gun out of the man's hand with no sign of struggle. then, when john was being mugged by 3 mexicans, he bent down to his shoe, and got up, got his gun out of his hands, and shot 2 of the mexicans extremely fast while pointing the gun at the other's head, not shooting because he had john's hat. as for iq, im not really sure who gets it because both are really intelligent. but john is from 1911 where technology is a little more advanced + he is more experienced than arthur so i'd give this edge to him.
@@anthonybastos1040 i may have gotten the shots wrong, but he survived 46 seconds bro. here, in this vid, the shooting starts at 1:20 and john's breathing stops at approximately 2:06. and yes i agree it counts as endurance but i provided other feats for durability too. vid source: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9DGXyhRDzlI.html
I think John Marston in Rdr 1 might me stronger than Arthur in Rdr 2 he was just a man against the government trying to protect his family. I love Arthur but John Marston vs the government and his old gang is another type of badass.
@@LongGonee John does not get experience over Arthur or Micah they were literally born ten years before john and became a outlaw before them also Arthur has 26 or 22 years of experience of being a outlaw John became a rancher for those 4 years and didn't get into any action untill rdr 1 Arthur takes experience
@@mustafagaming6475 no he isn't. Arthur outdrew micah while arthur was sick, quickdrew a bottle and many more. John is faster in a fight, but in a shootout, arthur takes it
@@mustafagaming6475 Hes not, in hand to hand its obvious arthur wins and in gun duel, john gets outdrew by many wimps in rdr1 many times, arthur will end him easliy
