Artosis Reads reddit Thread About his Gameplay 

Flash would've gave him Reddit Gold

Honestly, when he get out of his angry character, Artosis is really a smart and interresting person! ♥

that brainlet meme is so true lmfao

14:28 "I wiggle my builds around all day for anyone who watches"

"Who would pay for this shit!?" Frickin Gold!!!! Artosis is a gem.

There is a nugget of truth though because I don't watch Artosis that much but I saw him play a game where he basically won the opening had an advantage and then just sat back and macro'd for like 10 minutes, and lost in a drawn out game. It is hard to play aggressive as Terran though. Flash is the only Terran that can just rush / bust people, and it sort of skews what you think is possible for someone who isn't Flash lol. But from what I see these days he is improving quiet a bit. You can't always do everything at once like the pros.

I think his issue is not expanding aggressively enough. When you can’t kill your opponent but you have an advantage you should snowball your advantage by taking 2-4 bases or even the entire map and just out expand and out macro your opponent by a huge margin. I’ve seen Larva do this when he plays random against lower skill opponents but Artosis just takes one additional base when he should be taking 4 or 5 extra bases and win handily

Poor Artosis! He picked the weakest race in Brood War, then he picked the weakest race Zerg in the SC2 beta, then when he switched to Protoss in SC2 it became the overnerfed race! What unbelievably bad luck! No matter what he does, he's playing the underpowered race.

I’m glad you liked my comment arty if nothing else you play with skill and honor

loved this segment

There is way not to attack but too keep the opponent under constant pressure to prevent him from getting back on is feet.

The brain cage is extremely accurate.

god its so good to see ur vids daily, im so into watching you play this rn like addicted ive been caught up for so long i need moar

When you're ahead you try to get even more ahead. And if your enemy is about to die, you keep that bastard alive so you can get even more ahead.

Dear Artosis, I'm really sorry that happened to you. Stay strong.

@3:18 - the discussion about not attacking. Whilst I find the arguments valid for BW, Artosis also played SC2 like this (i am thinking of NASL) and was clearly not attacking and taking advantage of his early lead. inControl was pointing this out on the commentary over and over. So, I think this is not just a strategy, but also Artosis' inherent reluctance to attack.

that was interesting... i still wish they'd remove the black fog of war on SC Remastered I don't want to memorise what every map loox like before hopping on the ladder.

This is why i watch Arty. He's modest, and he's good at accepting criticism (good criticism, not when people have a vague idea of an opinion and think that's criticism, since that's reddit's default) He's good at the game, and he tries to get better, 20 years into the game... Keep it up Arty.

The real question is did he ever pay that $5?

There is no "lose because of this and that." Starcraft is real time strategy and every little decision and min maxing thing matters. Game understanding, micro, macro, mechanics, scouting, army movement etc is what matters, and you have to do it better than your opponent.

The whole reddit gold sequence, including with the guys in chat was gold. Here's your thumbs up.

Nailed it

I love watching Artosis's casts, etc. He's undoubtedly a very knowledgeable and fun caster to watch, I just hate the way he rages and gets angry with his viewers. Hoping he works on this!

Hahahha when he realizes giving awards costs money

lmaoing at all the rank E master strategists in the comments

Lmao donated $5 "Imagine wasting $5 on stupid shit" lmaooo

Did that reddit commentor who said "someone should teach Artosis when you get ahead, get more ahead" was he quoting him on a satirical level? Or was it pure coincidence.

im here 0:00 and i know for a fact this video will be pure gold

Sometimes skill test is a really thing. Sometimes you CAN give your enemy too much credit. Nobody is that well rounded even pros. Giving them the pressure at the right time and they will crumble. The tricky part is to not overcommit and know how to recover from a skill test that went wrong.

Jeez, Artosis fan base is so freaking awesome. Love you all guys 👍

Honestly, Artosis has a great end game, and that's where he earns my respect. I've watched many games with other players said to be "the best" or whatever, but I see that when end game comes, they can't adapt as well as Artosis.

Imagine being so popular and well known that people actually start reddit conversations about you.

Can someone explain to me why it's better to macro clicking each building for a unit instead of hot keying all 6 to 9 buildings on one key?

Hell with Reddit gold, these guys are donating to you directly, Reddit gold just goes into the cyber void

Artosis looks over what the brilliant minds at reddit have to say about him. Luv that video description.

7:27 Artosis is soon going to go out and hunt the Avatar.

I think it's pretty obvious.. when you play, people you play against watch your stream knowing exactly where to recall with their stupid arbiters

Duuuude, I loved this, but reddit is the worst so I don't recommend doing that again lmfao

The first fkin image has me fking ROLLING the brain cage lmfaaaaoo

i like how he skipped over the paragraph thats starts with "Starcraft is about winning. Literally nothing else. Whatever you can do to win is the ideal way to play." that is the most true statement i have ever seen about SC BW in my entire life, and he ignored it and went past it.

I wonder when "guys in the chat" would throw a joke of "you should use 11 Valks build" if they had watched Light used it on ladder. By the way, watching Light's gameplay with first person view, is Flash level!!

you should still occasionaly cheese to keep opponents honest, at least some of the extremely greedy shit you see is because people know you and know they're more likely to get away with it than in most games against simimilar mmr players.

2:20 According to Tosis, none dies ever lmao

I will never know if the angry rt is a show this man puts on to make money. He seems so calm and knows so much about the game. Let alone his commentary. I love how he flipped out when reddit asked him to pay for a badge, I was afraid salty rt was waking up.

12:53 The difference between donating to Arty and giving shitty ass Reddit money to give someone shitty ass Reddit gold is Mario Erotica-that shit is worth every penny.

When you get ahead, *GET MORE AHEAD*

9:10 He's making the distinction between cheese working on single-game ladder matches vs Bo3 or Bo5 tournament sets, and he's not wrong. Fighting games have the same issue, which is why it's considered polite to always Bo3 on ranked, bc winning one game doesn't really mean anything and we're trying to train for tournament situations. I wonder why SC doesn't have a standard of doing sets online vs single games?

I don't even know why Arty entertained that thread. I bet those people don't even play the game, but want to criticize the literal God-Terran Artosis who manages to get S rank on a bo1 ladder as terran without cheesing (matching against koreans). What can they say to him that he doesn't already know. Pathetic.

I will explain it.. Artosis knows everything about the game.. The reason why he has trouble is simply because he doesn't have the speed of pro players. You need to do so much shit at once , there are times when he's focusing on something he isn't marco'ing where as flash is constantly going back to his bases and producing units even in the middle of a heated battle. .. You need like over 300 APM to play terran at a level above Artosis. Otherwise if he had the technical finger skill and multi-tasking he would be a top player. He knows the game better than 99 percent of people in the world.

I feel the 1999 comment. I fucking love pre HoTS sc2, so much so I'd rather watch 2012 GSL than 2022 anything else. The game is so different now that I end up winging 90% of my builds because anything I do know, is outdated.

Why would you cheese on ladder? That makes zero sense. You want to cheese as little as possible so when you cheese in an actual tournament, it is so much stronger. Terran isn't the race where you can get an advantage and then end the game with a clutch zero hesitation attack. Another big trap for players of RTS in general is that they adjust too much. They lose to something, so they adjust. But they adjust far too strongly, which causes them to lose against something else.

Horrasment is a very valid point.

I was thinking.. why not cheese until he reaches a higher mmr? That way he doesn't get matched with bad players as often, and he can play good players

Lol He doesn't realize you have to practice the cheeses as well.

Terrans don't have any real cheeses. "Now I have to try to float my barracks back to my base and hope it gets their faster than the zerglings!"

The Special Team in Football. Tipping in Volleyball. Dropshots in Tennis. Fundamentally, these are not optimal strategies, or "meta". They are, essentially, "cheese". But they work as a sudden change of tactics, breaking the flow and expectations of your opponent. This is why they exist and are used in the first place. Of course they aren't used every game, or every round, or every time you have possession - they aren't optimal. But they can get points - they're viable. Artosis simply cannot accept that, because a successful "cheese" in BW is the difference between victory and defeat. In Tennis, or Volleyball, it is over a single point. It is a manner of thinking and comprehending loss. Artosis needs to get out of the mindset that he's playing BW like a scrimmage against a pro, to get better at the game. No. You are not organizing a practice with a pro athlete, you are randomly engaging in a skill-based matchmaking cue that is going to pair you with some random opponent. Is that disappointing? Sure. Are you disappointed in your fellow broodwar player? Fine. But you shouldn't be so angry about it - this is not surprising. You get what you put in to the game, and you're choosing to play against randos on a ladder in a game that is "balanced" towards cheese due to one-game matchmaking.

"Guy in the chat"

"Is that how they monetize the site???" lmfao

Arty is the Phil Hhellmuth of brood war.

Zed vee Zed 🙂

"Zergs do not die" Immediate smash cut to all the Zergs dying to Marine+Medic A-move in the early game

that's our honourable boy

Artosis, if you don't do regular Fasting you should.

I'm not trying to convince him of anything but I wish he'd play SC2 sometimes. I was a die hard SC1 player since the beginning but I just can't get back into it now.

I wonder if just vultures to harass is the problem. I'm no expert so I'm probably completely wrong on this, but what about doing some tank drops for some pressure? Vultures just seem like they're garbage against anything more than probes and zealots, but if he can get a couple tanks sieged up on an expansion he could probably do some decent damage. It'd be quite a bit of an investment depending on when, but it would take more of an investment for them to defend against.

A lot of these comments seem to assume he wants to win as much as possible, when in reality he is trying to improve as much as possible. He said it better but yeah, cheese can get you easy wins but you don't get better at the game. You don't even get better at cheesing because cheesing is already easy, it's rock paper scissors, if you play your rock cheese and they played macro scissors, you win, as long as you are halfway decent. If you want to get better, cheesing is a waste of time, as he said.

1:48 "a looooot of this is true, except the things that criticizes me" xD

Artosis reads like two comments, because he knows that the more he reads the angrier he gets and the less rational his arguments will become.

I imagine that anyone playing on the ladder whom runs into Artosis knows that 95% of the time he won't throw in some crazy build or flat out rush right from the get go. So other players recognize him and take advantage of it by often taking risky builds themselves, like Terrans going CC first, or not even bothering to check for proxies. Players who are known for certain builds just switch to barcode names to hide their playstyles, but Artosis is always Artosis. There's really only one solution to this, Artosis should spend entire weeks/month doing nothing but mixing in CC first, proxy stargates, and flying scv builds into his playstyle regardless of whether he wins or loses, that way his opponents will begin to fear him when they see his ID. Let's be honest chat, every one of you wants to see this.

Reading anything on reddit where every 3rd sentence begins with "Like," is one of the top cringe activities.

when you start an opinion with ´´havent played the game in 5 years´´ then you know some bs is gonna come out of that keyboard

Light had beaten Bisu with pretty much very aggro tactics. only game 1 was slow win for Light because BIsu made arbiters and ofc he lost with it. (seems like bisu loosing 1 game with arbs every round.. and win 1 with carriers. only a rly stupid person might think that arbiters are as good as carriers look at results) game 2 win with cheese. game 5 Light goes out @ min 7 with 4 fact push and @ min 11 game was over. Game 6 was 2 base 5 fact push Light goes out @ 9 min this time still super aggro and Bisu gg's in 2 min. And this is vs Bisu not some random noob toss in your ladder.

Arty's gameplay is fine, it's his mental that makes him suffer. He's always so ready to blame his opponent for being terrible and that's how they win instead of looking at his own play and seeing what he can do to prevent that kind of thing from happening again in the future.

As artosis says, cheese on the ladder is truly a waste of time. Of course you can practice those types of builds to have it in your reportoire, but primarily on the ladder, for best practice, you wanna be grinding out your macro openers since they have more depth and potential for improvement.

redditors in a nut shell

trying to evaluate ladder games the same as bo3/5 tourny matches :^)

first time with ur content and I'm baffled that people actually take ur "raging" serious

Artosis learning how far into the darkside reddit has fallen is the best moment here.

Damn that first comment was so accurate.

Why is everyone clowning Artosis who achieved S rank, wonder how many criticizing him are?

Flash goes and kills his opponent.

The irony here is that Artosis is likely better than everyone commenting in that Reddit thread.

outside of the jokes, no sane man could disrespect artosis. dude grinds like a demon and always plays macro oriented games, I'm way younger than him and my wrists can't even keep up with SC2 at low masters.

"I do her ass" - Artosis

Who would pay for reddit gold? Same people who donate to free streams.

Artosis throwing on purpose for RU-vid content

11:00 I like how people are making fun of reddit for this while being subscribed to multiple channels on twitch lol

UU? RR? UU? RR?

Flash coulda won the games arty loses

Should've said that Artosis doesn't adequately punish his opponents when they make errors in macro, because that's about all that I can think of. How the hell do you expect Terran to win at this game? It's Brood War.

If you attack the enemy they don't die ??? Artosis logic.

haha babys first reddit gold attempt

lol who would even give reddit gold

Artosis in 2021 not knowing that reddit works on bragging.

he really does turtle too hard, I love Arty but leave the base dude

Artosis should learn to play Chess, would be interesting to see if that'd change his view on Starcraft strategy meta.

"zerg do not die, protoss do not die, terran do not die" Then how do you die?

I agree. Artosis has strong harass game.

Reddit is cancer

It's funny to me that he's receiving so many criticisms. He's playing against the Elite! Every Day! It's not easy. How about this one: He Loses, because... His opponent is better... Because... He's playing against the best! There is no shame, in losing against the best! Improvement at this level is VERY slow, and VERY meticulous. Someday I hope I'm half his mmr.