ARVANITE, ALBANIAN & ARBERESH discuss & compare their languages PART ONE 

I am From Kosova Your Are my Sister 🇦🇱🇦🇱

Je shqipëtare ❤

You should contact Martin and make a video about it so you can show your variation of the language

@@hane2868 yes, even from village to village is different, because we came from different parts of albania

O Krejt shqiptar jem nje qak

@@andreasgiannopoulos1204 We in Albania use the word kupto or kuptoj

@@andreasgiannopoulos1204 te fala ❤

100% agree with you

jo jo, ndrengonj means "i understand" and gjegjem means I hear, in Arberesh.

@ Yes I have noticed that. But in Albanian Degjoj is Hear. And saying I Hear You, make sense on i Get you, I Understand You! My grandmother used to say I'm going to the town : me pa e me gjegj. I never understood the word gjegj until I found out from Arberesh videos! Respect Martin

@@namesurname8652 wow cool

@ Same as in Tosk, gjegjem = hear. My grandmother from Tepelena used to say “Mirë u gjegjshim”. Younger generations don’t know the word.

Hello brother

Na mesojen shqipen te skolla

Bravo shum e drejte@

Bro also if we take the word gji-toni which can be gje-tona which means something of our own in Albanian. So it can clearly state our cousin or related!

​@@ChristisLORD333with this logic Africa is afr ika

Not anymore and your rightist propaganda doesn’t reflect their identity nor their cultural reality even a bit

Actually he has researched it and knows it very well

“Ija” is used in Gjakovë too! Interesting

Toskerishte asgjo ma teper.

In Greek it is yiayia,the arvanites say it as the greeks

Po

Prindërit tënë e flasën e na e shkojën gluhën edhe

@ Dëgjo, ne arbrit duhet të bëjmë një hartë në të gjithë Mesdheun Lindor ose në të tre gadishujt atë Apenin, Ilirik (Ballkanik) dhe në atë të Azisë së Vogël, sepse as ne këtu në Shqipëri, as ju arbëreshët Italis dhe të Argjentinës por edhe të ShBA-s dhe as arvanitasit e Greqisë, as arrnautët e Turqisë, Sirisë dhe Egjiptit, nuk e dimë se në sa fshatra apo katune, rajone, qytetra apo hora ndodhemi apo gjëndemi. Kjo është domozdoshmëri, urgjente nga ne që na thërret gjaku i Skenderbeut, Pirros dhe Lekës së Madh. Pra. Ne duhet të dimë vendëndodhjet tona arbëreshe, arvanitase dhe arrnaute, GJEGJE!?😓😇☺👆🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱

Brezi i fundit qe ka fol toskerishten e paster ka qene brezi qe jane lindur dhe rritur oa u ndikuar nga shqipja moderne. Une e kuptoj shume mire variantin tosk qe flasin djali arvanit dhe djali arberesh por vete e kam te veshtire te formuloj ne ate theks. Vetem mbaj mend nga gjysherit qe e flisnin keshtu.

Problemi është se toskërishtja nuk ka ndonjë standart (me sa di unë), dhe as gegënishtja. Janë thjesht disa lloje dialektesh që klasifikohen si toskërisht, dhe disa të tjera që klasifikohen si gegënisht. Kështu që secili duhet të mësojë (në shkollë ose në familje) gjuhën e katundit të vet, dhe mos ta lërë të humbasë.

Although there were some words I didn’t understand, surprisingly arvanite sounded more familiar to me as a tosk speaker, than Gheg spoken in Macedonia or Kosovo.

@@theduchess3 Yes all three are talking tosk and I understand them very well. I think that the speech is like from the southeast of Albania

that's beautiful!

@@theduchess3 Yes, Arvanite, even though it does hold some of the Gheg dialect, it's much closer to the Tosk. Same here. When I first heard Arvanitika it sounded like the language spoken in the deep villages of southern Albania by older people. But, you can also see the difference of how old the language spoken is, because the middle ages is not the only time Arvanites went to the southern part of Illyro/Pelasgian Peninsula(which is today's Greece). There were always populated with Albanian speaking population there. So, you can see the difference of the archaic version, the more newer version of the middle ages and then the standard version which is that of today's Albanians who have immigrated today.

Marco...this is exactly the same story for me. My grandmother never went to school so she never learned standardtized albanian. She spoke pure Tosk dialect and has so much similarity with arvanite & arbereshe dialects. That's the reason i can easily ubderstand them. I wish I could speak like them but I have learned all my life standard albanian and can only remember words and pure tosk dialect but not speak it.

Si e ka emrin Katundi cfar zone ne greqi?

Po ku ?

Si quhet vendi

te haristis shum. E kemi bërë. We have done it. Check out our other videos!

Wir lieben Dardanien!

Also tosks used Nò or Nënò

Wow 😮 😊 we say also Non-/Nona in Reka Luma N.Macedonia

Nona comes from the roman myth ,is one of the three personifications of destiny, whose name means "ninth" and was called upon by pregnant women in their ninth month when the child was due to be born. A loanword in Albanian and Greek probably cause of proximity

Ka je?

Pershendetje. Ata kuptojn shqip gjuha ime ska ndnjgj te vecant qe nuk e njohin shqiptaret e tjere. Ama duke folur anglisht e sheh dhe bota

What a shame to call the villeage "Greci" to make it look like Greek, this is done and was done on purpose.

I met a man in the USA from Albania who also spoke Greek and he loved everyone. A great man who was not going to dwell in the past. You don't know if it was once a Greek village named by Italians. A lot of things could/should change in this world but are not likely to happen. I feel for Albanians that lost territory but so did many other cultures around the world. Did Greeks not lose territory? As far as i can tell modern Greek culture embrace their Albanian brothers culture and borrowed from it in many ways

Presheva Shqiptare

Me te gjata? Longer ?

I have split it in 3 parts

@ Po.

They sey "ghiat" i think. Similar to tosk.

also the Albanians of today Greece (Arvanites) used it in the same way at least before their assimilation therefore before the 19th century....

Gheg: shkja>adv. shkjenisht. North Tosk: shqa>adv. shqerisht. Arvanitik: shkla>adv. shklerisht. Byzantine Greek: σκλάβος/sclavos (“slave, Slav”) → Eastern Latin: sclavu- → Thraco-Romance: *sclau- → Proto-Romanian: scļau → ARomanian: șclĭau (“slave, servant”), Romanian: șchiau/șcheau (generally meaning ''Southern Slav'', especially ''Bulgarian'', rarely ''Serbian''), Old Gheg [& probably still dialectal]: shkla, definite: shklau>Albanian: shkja~shqa, definite: shkjau~shqau (''Bulgarian'', generally ''South Slav''). ''Shkja'' really means ''foreign/foreigner'' in your [Gheg] dialect? When the people use this term, it is reffered generally to foreigners, including Greeks and ARomanians, or it is exclusively used for the [neighboring] Slavic people around you/known to you: Serbians, Montenegrins, Macedonians? Thank you!

My surname is Sklias, I am arvanitis and in my village they said that they called the greeks or the hellenized greeks that way, by the way, my grandparents spoke aravanitika as their first native language@@lagjescuni5482

E kuptova in Albania quite similar

Να μην γράφετε βλακείες..... Μπορείτε;;

​@@katerinatsoliakou235he is saying its nonsense than arvanitika isnt a 2nd language in greece since over 4m people in greece are greek-albanian or full albanian

​@GodisnotAllah there isnt 4m arvanites. Maybe some descent yes but not many people speak it

Saktë. Yt at/ë për babanë e jot ëm/ë për nënën. At=Tat ... Ëma/Mëma Ose I Ati...i .... E Jëma e ...

Nana ime thot yt tat e une Them im At! Ne Elbasan.

Nga Bursa hahahahah

Pershendetje Agron Me siguri ata nga peloponezi (Morea) e kan prejardhjen nga vendi yne. Edhe une jam nga Deçani :) cilin test e ke bo? Te pershendes

Edhe une jam nga Deçani poashtu edhe mu mu ka paraqit DNA nga peloponezi @Doni 8AJ une me 23andme

Ka shume teori. Se pari ne Peloponez ka shume njerez me gjak shqiptar (arvanitet). Teoria tjeter eshte se rrenjet e popullit te lashte shqiptar (iliro-pellazgjik) jane ne zonat e Peloponezit apo Epirit dhe me pas jemi perhapur drejt veriut. Nje pjese e arvaniteve e quajne veten vendali/autoktone madje edhe dorët/spartanet moderne. Ec e merre vesh historine e vertete...😅

@@DoniAJ edhe unë të njëjtën kam,Poloponezin dhe Shqipërinë qendrore e jugore videon e kam në profilin tim të parën me 86% pas disa muajsh me ndryshuan të dhënat duke shkuar në 95%.

E ke gabim. Versioni geg i fjales eshte kry/krye. Ne theksin jugor Y zevendesohet me I. Psh. nuk themi DY por DI. Nuk themi KRYETAR por KRIETAR ne dialekt tosk. Fjala KOKA eshte perdorur me vone. Katun nuk eshte fjale e veçuar e dialektit geg. Katun dhe katunar perdoret edhe ne dialekt tosk vetem se me vone eshte perdorur me shume fjala fshat/fshatar. Dielekti arberesh eshte dialekt me i perafert me dialektin tosk.

@@albarmy1fjala katun eshte tipike gege, per qata armiqt e kane favorizu toskerishten, sepse me token kemi humb autenticitetin e fjaleve te verteta shqipe. Gegnishtja ka fjale te pastra qe skane ardh prej asnje gjuhe tjeter

@@ΙωαννηςΒανιοσοβ dude, give it a rest. You know nothing but spew hatred.

he has been removed

@@oblivionzzzmike He has been removed for twisting what I've said. The conversation wasn't even political at all and he tried to do that.

What I said was that my grandmother didn't wanted me to speak Arvanitika cause she thought I'll never learn greek and probably I wouldn't be able to live outside the village.

It's been decades since the greek state in a subtle way is trying to erase the arvanite identity. Especially the language...because it's a dialect of albanian language. Back then the orthodox church in Albania (obviously of greek influence) declared albanian language as a forbidden language because it was named as the language of evil 🤣 True story. Albanians of Epirus only spoke it secretly in their homes to keep the language alive. Unfortunately same with arvanites.

Saktë. Na ka masakruar dialektet shqipja moderne. Verioret qahen e ankohen per variantin geg por askush nuk flet qe edhe varianti tosk eshte demtuar shume.

@@albarmy1 shume e vertete. Te pakten dialekti geg dihet qe eshte ndryshe nga shqipja standarte dhe eshte e lehte te besh dallimin ti njohesh si 2 fjale te ndryshme 1 dialektore dhe 1 standarte. Por dialektet toske jane asimiluar pa u kuptuar.

Indeed

Just as we have both Sicilian and Arvanite ancestors and our language is the result of that, yet people minimise it and try to say we speak a dialect of Albanian

You are from Skopje...

@@wrecked8746 I guess you are referring to hithra, or hithër in singular.

In my geg from Hotla(komuna e likoves) in North Macedonia we say Si, kria.. only we use i and a. Doesnt mean its tosk.

Na malsort e Malit t'Zi thom nig'jo

Jugu i thote ngjo / n'gjo. Alfabeti i shqipes moderne nuk ka demtuar vetem dialektin geg.

Glad you enjoyed it

Mendoj se e kam përdorur anglishten për shpjegimin të anglisht folësve.

Anglishtja perdoret sepse dikush duhet ti shpjegoje edhe per te huajt. Edhe per ata arberesh/arvanitas qe kane harruar gjuhen. Pastaj kjo video eshte per shpjegimin e arberishtes jo shqipes se jugut.

Po toskerisht eshte por nuk duhet ti merzisim Geget se ata jane me shume te fiksuar se kush dialekt eshte me i vjeter. Te nje video disa muaj me pare ku doli Martini me Klajdin te gjith shkruanin kjo eshte gegerisht dhe spo e kutonin qe ishin fjal te perbashketa te jugut dhe veriut. Per nje tosk eshte shume e lehte per tu dalluar kurse per nje geg eshte me e veshtire sepse gjuha zyrtare eshte toskerishtja dhe ata i perdorin te dyja versionet prandaj i dukej si geg

Nuk ka rendesi cilit dialekte i takone po me rendesi po kuptohemi njeri me tjetrin! Kuptoni gege e toske ja dialekte te shqipes asgje ma shume.

O vlla ju kokes nuk i thoni krye sic i thot ky Arvaniti plus ka edhe shum fjal te tjera qe ju nuk i perdorni po ne pergjithesi ngjan me dialektin tosk

@@dejv1239 nuk eshte problemi te bejme dallime se gjaku yne eshte i njejte,por historianet e gjuhetaret edhe pse jane nga jugu thone te ruajme gegnishten se eshte pasuri.

Asnje nga dialektet ska se si te jete me i vjeter se sa tjetri perderisa jane dege te te njejtit trung qe eshte gjuha shqipe. Keta qe thone eshte dialekti geg apo tosk me i vjeter s'ja kane idene veç flasin kot ne ajer.

Gjith shejtrat

Te haristis shum

@ beddu iddu .... Po me haristis shum

No don't twist what I said!

A minority language with no official status,oral with no literature tradition,no eclessiastical tradition etc wouldn't help people from the Arvanite villages progress much if they wanted a life in the city outside their small society.Arvanite couldn't stand a chance against the Greek language which was the dominant in the country.People eventually had to give it up,just like many Greeks assimilated in southern Italy,Ukraine,Russia,Turkey and even south Albania

@@ΔημΔ-ω2ο Well said. This is what I was trying to say.

what's sad about that? What many do not know is that arvanites do not consider themselves to be a minority. They love Ellada and have fought for this country, they see themselves as genuine Ellines and they have the full right to do so, Arvanitas connects more with Greece than with Albania, they do not consider themselves as Shqiptars but as Helleno-arberores and that should be respected

❤

Si të thërrasin ose si e ke emrin apo si quhësh, ne të Kosovës i përdorim tre mënyrat.

Ne thojmë: si të thërrasin/ mua më thërrasin Gina po juve 😀

Arvanitika has a bit more Greek influence, because Arvanites live in Greece since the 13th century

Interesting! Hm, can you give me the etymology of the word "gjitoni"? Because we can deconstruct it easily in Albanian: gji = chest/breast; ton=our. We use this expression even for when we are saying that we accept somebody in our group "ne gjirin ton".

Ok

​@meshte e ndaluar gjuha shqipe ne grekir.researcher55

@@mendjelire8392 gjitoni sound more like deriving from "ngjitur"