Ascians in Dawntrail: A Quick Recap And Likely Suspects 

all the ascians, non-unsundered, we defeated before we got the shards of memories in Shadowbringers have a _chance_ to resurface because that how they regained their memories as ancients in the first place. now that the stones came to us and subsequently destroyed along with Elidibus, there are no physical ways to reawaken the convocation of fourteen once the current memory holder is destroyed, barring any extreme circumstances like the case of Gaia/Loghrif. Once they are defeated now, theres a high probability of never seeing them resurface as their old self (meaning old Ascian Danny boy is long gone), not to say though they cant crop up as a non-ascian villain on some distant shard in the future but not with their powers and memories from their ancient days.

Gaia and Ryne going shopping would soooo fit in the new shopping area.

I personally think the mystery maiden is Altima or Deudelphon. All we know about them is that Gaius "killed" them and took their masks. However, since it's established that the Scions are the first to permanently kill Ascians and Gaius never learned our technique, what likely happened is they returned to the aetherial sea and later possessed a new body. As for Solution Nine and their role in it, the city and its people originated from the Twelfth shard, which was consumed in the Second Umbral Calamity prior to the Allagans. The Ascian/Mystery Maiden (or maybe even our friend Emet-Selch?) ruled an advanced empire on that shard and used its to sow chaos and tip the shard towards Lightning, like the Allagan or Garlean empires. When it came time for the Twelfth to be swallowed up into the Source, Solution Nine was built and used some sort of technology/spell to allow it to be transported to the Source intact, with its people digitally stored (the Lalafells running into the gate and the "Soul Storage" sign). I like to imagine they also built Solutions One through Eight, but those didn't make it.

Azem from the 12th shard (rejoined during the lightning calamity)

Honestly, I think it would be funniest if we run into an Ascian or two just hanging out on the beach relaxing because, with Zodiark dead, there's really not much point in pursuing the Rejoining.

The Fandaniel/Amon we meet is a sundered shard, so there might be more of him out there. (I doubt the writers would go there, but it is technically a possibility.)

Before watching the video, my answer would be Emmerololth, Scion of light and the figure at the top of the DT poster. After watching the video, I am just going to explain why it must be her. First, she's traditionally (FFXII) the Scion of Light (associated with healing and medicine). The white healer-ish figure at the top of the DT poster (and later shown as the mysterious maide) is mighty bright. Also in the trailer, the lalafell running through the stargate (in an era that's long ago) is wearing gear associated with Eureka (the camera makes it impossible to miss the unique shoes). This places the stargate, the yellow-hued techno city and its "pyramid of light", at the end of the third era and the fall of Allag. It also associates it with Eureka. Emmerololth is the only Ascian deeply associated with Eureka. In terms of her role, I suggest she's helped part of the Allagans escape the end of the third Era. We know they were space-faring, so some may have escaped on spaceships. Some may have survived underground. One plausible storyline would be that the spaceships attacking Tuliyolal are the first returnees from the Allagan diaspora. We might be made aware of their coming or at least of the threat further waves pose by those who survived in the city of light.

Yeah, Emmerololth is the obvious candidate for a DT appearance. The link to Galuf alone would be enough to justify it, from a narrative standpoint.

Halmarut is one that stands out to me. They specialized in living things - like giant cactuars. We saw that "do you even lift bro?" cactuar early on in the concept artwork, especially since so much of the new world is covered in jungle, it's certainly a possibility we could encounter them. Although, like others have said, I'd much rather they be on our side now that that the war between H&Z has come to a conclusion. It could very well be any of the ascians that we don't have a clear answer for, but Halmarut is my guess for now.

Just an FYI: the final letter in Pashtarot is not silent. This can be known by comparing his Japanese name - Pashutarotto, as romaji are written phonetically (albeit with a Japanese accent).

With the defeat of Zodiark and Elidibus, I think it's highly unlikely that any Ascians in the story will be pursuing reunification of the shards or even necessarily directly opposing the Warrior of Light. I'd expect a story more along the lines of "what do we do now that our work of 2000 years has failed? What do we do if another fragmented shard of the Convocation or anyone else awakens?"

We are literally fighting giant cactuars and monsters in the coming expansion lol.

The death of Zodiark does not mean rejoinings cannot be triggered anymore, at least by the information we have of how they are triggered and the natural properties of aether. Nor does the death of the unsundered Ascians means any remaining ones will give up on their millennia-long grudge. Given the Convocation were an organization of professionals on their respective fields with the primary goal to safeguard the star, I expect some of the remaining Ascians to use their knowledge to live out normal lives doing what their goal has always been; better the star. But it would be silly to expect not one of the remaining Ascians still wants to make the star whole again, even without Zodiark.

I would love to see an Ascian as some sort of parallel to how we saw Amon/Fandaniel, where they're aware of the Ancient World, and the Sundering, and who they were-- but that they both distinctly see themselves as who they are now, and that they love their world to the point where they're also opposed to the idea of a Rejoining. I would really like to see how a Sundered Ascian from one of the Reflections in particular would handle that, knowing they love their world and that the goal of these incredibly powerful, ancient entities is to effectively destroy it, and what that Ascian might be willing to do to preserve what they now see as their own people.

I’d like to see them bring back Travanchet.

really enjoyed this! Earned a sub!

the little girl is an ascian for sure and I think erenville is part of Halmarut. thats my guesses.

i was hoping someone would make this! it’s good to have a all together look into what potentially could happen! dawntrail can’t come sooner

I honestly really hope they dont appear at all unless its a tease to 8.0 in patches. Like you said the HvsZ arc is done. We need a break from ANYTHING to do with that story line. I really hope that will be the case for at least the main MSQ. No Ascians, no primals, no world ending force, no allagan tech. I just want to see something completely new, something that needs to be dealt with like another possible warning nations issue or heck even saw a theory that Sol9 will be people who survived a calamity underground and now that they threats of rejoinings are gone they plan on rising up with their better tech and being a worse threat then the Garlians. THAT would be fun.

We killed their dad last expansion? What do they want now?

I think Pashtarot is a very likely presence. Their name was dropped in Myths of the Realm but I think that may be coincidence. I'm pretty sure the Yoshi P comment on Myths of the Realm related to Snoegeim's statements after the 3rd raid that she wanted to study the 12 from a perspective of reception theory. Likely we're going to see and hear a lot of things that show how the same 12 are viewed by cultures in Tural (I think these are likely the murals that Jesse Cox found on the media tour). Ascian wise, They're still out there and it would make less since if they didn't show up going forward. With Zodiark dealt with they will be out there trying to figure out how they fit in going forward. Personally I would rather not have them be adversarial and instead be more helpful. I've seen people theorize that Erenville is Halmarut (because of similar specialities) and he actually came from the "city of gold" (actually possible) initially but that would be a little too convenient. That and if we met an ascian by helping him catch marmots, nothing in this world can be taken seriously.

Erenville will end up being a shard of Azem.

Yeah I just don't see them coming back as villains. That's supposed to be over. I just wonder how they're moving on. Their... very purpose has been stripped from them and any hope of saving their people.

I swear to Hydaelyn if another Ascian comes up that’s not in passing, there’s going to be trouble. I don’t mind their legacy coming up, but after so much of putting their history to rest in EW, even in the patches, it’s going to feel hollow. What if the maiden herself is something like a descendant of an Ascian? Like Emet-Selch in a past host millennia ago sired a daughter? And became what I assume is the memory in a data persona? Or whatever it is the Solution Nine inhabitants are.

No. Done.

hey amazing video.

Don't the sunderd once have all like 14 versions of themselves? 1 Fandaniel is gone, still 13 to go. At least, that is how I think it could work in theory, but I am not a very knowledged regarding the lore.