ASH CLAN Rider | Avatar Fire and Ash - Concept BREAKDOWN

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I say that Varanag is riding this new creature but there is no official word that it is her. It may be just be a clan warrior, looking like Varang so take it more as a speculation. Did you spot any other details from this concept image?
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Set more than a decade after the events of the first film, Avatar: The Way of Water follows the journey of Jake Sully and Neytiri's newfound family. Despite their best efforts to keep their family together, a familiar threat resurfaces and forces Jake, Neytiri, and their four children to flee to the land of the Metkayina clan.
Avatar: The Way of Water's plot will be a fully-encapsulated, standalone narrative, as will the other sequels, but will also be part of a meta-narrative that extends across Avatar: The Way of Water, Avatar 3, 4 and 5.
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@AvatarTheory Месяц назад

I say that Varanag is riding this new creature but there is no official word that it is her. It may be just be a clan warrior, looking like Varang so take it more as a speculation. Did you spot any other details from this concept image? Sources: x.com/AndrewJ626/status/1822151196355748074 x.com/DiscussingFilm x.com/joblocom x.com/PrimeTimeFilms_/status/1822103051508858888

@kieranczyzniejewski2178 Месяц назад

I call it a Unikran

@yanmorais777 Месяц назад

Did you notice that this animal is very similar to the tetrapteron? The face is practically the same, only bigger.

@S.Kost-vh1bv Месяц назад

@@AvatarTheory if she is riding it then they surely have bonded. And if it is similar to an ikran in any way then it must bond for life with it's rider

@PandoraFilesSubs 29 дней назад

it's definitely Varang. Headpiece and top are exactly the same as the ones in the behind the scenes photo. The bts is definitely Quaritch standing next to her

@AlexRyanMusic Месяц назад

I still can't believe we're actually getting another Avatar film next year. I pray that there are no more delays.

@kevinanderson1196 Месяц назад

I’m praying I’ll be alive to see it!

@neofulcrum5013 Месяц назад

I’m praying I’ll still be alive to watch all the remaining films.

@martingulyas3134 Месяц назад

Its still almost 2 years. Almost 2026. Why wait this much i dont get it when they finish this franchise the actors will be 80

@AlexRyanMusic Месяц назад

@@martingulyas3134 It's 8 months short of two years, but yeah it'll play into 2026. They've already filmed much of the footage they need for Avatar 4, it's true though the actors and James Cameron himself will be pretty old by the end of the series.

@stealthyyy4003 Месяц назад

theres gonna be 2 more after avatar 3

@collenstone6312 Месяц назад

Am I the only one who’s glad the ash Na’vi aren’t red? 🤣

@lexivin34 28 дней назад

Me too! Sometimes other speculations from others as such can be so ludicrous in their theories but you gotta laugh at it! 🤣🤣

@kits3731 25 дней назад

FR 😁

@iampondkoi... 22 дня назад

Yeees😭😭

@abcdeisthekey 3 дня назад

I was a little scared they would be red. I think na'vi should stay with various types of blue shades. Maybe stretching to greyish or purplish or green ish but never fully those colors. Just a hint to give diversity

@collenstone6312 3 дня назад

@@abcdeisthekey agreed!!!

@emmanuelsilvera8032 Месяц назад

From Water to Fire! I cant wait for this, the creature design looks great. I like how their teeth are protruding from their jaws like Sharks.

@AvatarTheory Месяц назад

Yup; also thought about sharks from that image

@lucasO3032 Месяц назад

The Navi having guns makes me more convinced that Quaritch and Lyle join the Ash Clan and work together to take down Jake, also like the BTS pics with Jake in an orange jail suit and A combat outfit Navi (most likely Quaritch) I do think that coulddd be Lyle with the gun too…

@AvatarTheory Месяц назад

Perhaps but where would the RDA fit in? I think Ardmore would be upset with Quaritch therefore he could end up joining the Ash Clan.

@neofulcrum5013 Месяц назад

I had the theory that Quaritch recruits some of them to replace the Recombs they lost.

@lucasO3032 Месяц назад

@@neofulcrum5013 that’s a good theory and makes sense, I was thinking that maybe they could re make all recoms, but they won’t remember anything abt 2’s events (unless they uploaded their memories again 🤷🏻) Nice crosshair pfp 🤣

@neofulcrum5013 Месяц назад

@@lucasO3032 thank you! And also I’m sure they could remake them but it’s probably time and resource consuming, even if the RDA are wealthy.

@lucasO3032 Месяц назад

@@neofulcrum5013 I also thought maybe since we saw the actor for Scoresby in a mo cap suit, maybe he can be a recom version or avatar. Like Ardmore, Scoresby, Gavin and selfridge could get avatars and then be able to go in the nature of pandora without alerting the animals or nature or whatever. Dam these theories are going deep and fun

@fewcusi Месяц назад

This image definitely looks like they’re at the Cove of the Ancestors at Awa’atlu.

@asesor65 Месяц назад

i fell that quaritch and varang will have a similar relationship like jason and citra from far cry 3.

@starforce1310 Месяц назад

The masks the fire clan na'vi are wearing are so interesting, definitely some African influence there. (Talking about the other image we were shown) Kinda obscure but they remind me of these villian things in a kids movie called Arthur and the invisibles, I think they were called seides or something like that.

@erenjeager5290 Месяц назад

All the tribes and different Navi were heavily inspired by indigenous people from all over the world. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw bits of Aghori, Aztec, or Comanche in this new tribe.

@AvatarTheory Месяц назад

That other image definitely has a lot of little details; working on a video for it which will be out soon 💙

@mellomadeitin2004 Месяц назад

It’s most definitely quaritch he’s most likely gonna become the toruk makto for the ash people and give them Guns and weapons from the RDA

@erenjeager5290 Месяц назад

True. It might be a case of this ash tribe selling out for human technology only to be crossed by Miles near the end of the movie.

@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic Месяц назад

He can't be toruk makto. That's Jake. 🤦

@mellomadeitin2004 Месяц назад

@@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic no I’m saying he might become a symbol for them the ash people might have there own version of a toruk makto

@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic Месяц назад

@@mellomadeitin2004 Doubt it.

@nightowl7261 29 дней назад

@@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic Doubt yourself

@lucasO3032 Месяц назад

Great job Avatar Theory on this breakdown, your channel is probably my favourite avatar news channel, I’m so excited for this movie!

@AvatarTheory Месяц назад

Thank you 💙 appreciate the support and positive feedback!

@S.Kost-vh1bv Месяц назад

3:39 this new creature's face reminde me more of a tetrapteron then a stormglider and it's so cool I love it ❤

@petergresh516 Месяц назад

It reminds me of a fell beast from Lord of the rings

@S.Kost-vh1bv Месяц назад

@@petergresh516 really how come?

@petergresh516 Месяц назад

@@S.Kost-vh1bv the face kinda resembles it a little

@S.Kost-vh1bv Месяц назад

@@petergresh516 I guess so. I wonder what it's name ,I bet it's going to be a very cool one 🤔😎

@SAINTOBVIOUS 24 дня назад

imagine being Jim Cameron, living in his gorgeous modern mansion somewhere in new zealand and he wakes up every morning to go to work to make avatar movies. now, I know I make it sound like it's a dream job, and it probably is to a certain extent. but, my goodness, with him being the perfectionist he is - and just the sheer amount of data his head has to process in order to get these super complex films at a level that they are is just mind boggling. it's clear the man still has a passion for what he does, and that's very inspiring. but I'm sure there are days where he's angry, livid, depressed, over it - just like we all experience at some point in whatever we do. but that's a whole lotta pressure on one mans shoulders to deliver what he's known to deliver. impressive.

@Animalboy-nk8xc Месяц назад

The teeth on the new flying creature remind me of the mouths of the viper wolves and the thanator.

@1977curt Месяц назад

Has the same teeth flaps

@Animalboy-nk8xc Месяц назад

@@1977curt and the teeth themselves look very similar

@collinmason739 Месяц назад

Sadly 😥 16 months away 😢

@AvatarTheory Месяц назад

It is still a while away but time goes by quick. We will be there before you know it 💙

@fewcusi Месяц назад

And maybe we’ll get a teaser at the 2025 Super Bowl!!

@Bosorka0 Месяц назад

The creature's face reminds me more of a tetrapteron's rather than a stormglider. The face shape, teeth, even the head spike is present on a tetrapteron, although it is smaller and seems to grow backwards rather than forwards. Maybe Varang's mount is to tetrapterons what Toruk is to ikran?

@erenjeager5290 Месяц назад

I think it’s a whole new creature entirely. Maybe in their culture, the leader always rides the biggest bird so the others know who to protect and follow.

@Rainbowhawk1993 Месяц назад

The RDA is definitely going to manipulate the Ash Clan into fighting alongside them. That’ll give them an edge because it’s established that Eywa created a no fly zone around the well of souls for airships.

@rizmateen8392 24 дня назад

I was thinking they'd be an antagonistic force against both the RDA and other Na'vi

@nathaniel3867 Месяц назад

The fire 🔥 or Ash clan Na’vi look very dangerous. I bet there really extreme

@iManillaFolder Месяц назад

It's a giant stingbat 👀👀

@blessedcocoa5729 Месяц назад

Mega Riti

@-Safijiiva- Месяц назад

Here's hoping to cameron showing both positive and negative sides of humans and navi instead of being a boring 1 sided good vs bad propaganda As gorgeous as the movies look the story is not anywhere near to being as good as its visual looks

@mariamcgourty46 Месяц назад

to me it looks like the flying creature's mouth is more of a mix with an ikran and a thanator than a stormglider. but the horn does lend to the stormglider look. Im excited to see what else they show later on as they build up to the movie release. I also wonder if there would be any hints to the new movie in the new dlc secrets of the spires coming out for the game in september

@mateuszmolenda4823 Месяц назад

ngl but james cameron is really cooking with creatures designs

@user-wk7nu3tu2y Месяц назад

🔥🔥🔥 can’t wait!!

@AvatarTheory Месяц назад

Me neither!

@joraluzmala Месяц назад

The ash people are already very cool, but Varangs mount is currently the showstopper for me here and I really hope we will get a figure of this beast. You showed us some concept pictures from Avatar 3 already on this channel, one of those were of some Na’vi at a coast with a creature in the background and I think it was this beast and not a Banshee/Ikran. I know that this one doesn’t have a name yet, but for now I will refer to it as a crested banshee I think the third movie will have a huge tonal shift than the previous two and will be quite battle heavy

@TheLiamster Месяц назад

I can’t wait to see the new RDA weapons and vehicles

@user-dc7jf4qc3z Месяц назад

Awesome 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@sirblumi1404 Месяц назад

4:51 maybe the ash clan has some sort of connection to the RDA/are on their side and that´s why there are RDA avatars/Na´vi with guns...tho I cant come up with a reason on why they´d be on their side xD

@Kiri_Sully399 Месяц назад

If this clan takes out any sullies , we riot.

@nightowl7261 29 дней назад

Jake sulley will die so the movie can be passed down to the kids

@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic 29 дней назад

@nightowl7261 No he won't.

@angryralphs2516 12 дней назад

Loak will leave. Spider and Loak will be enemies.

@akriandurin151 Месяц назад

About the odd shape of the arm - it's just not an incredibly detailed image. Several of the background riders are the same asset that have been resized/flipped and used multiple times.

@drewrichmond2964 Месяц назад

I hope Ubisoft fixes this bug where let the drums sing won’t work properly i got all the drums but the quest won’t work

@Daherl 29 дней назад

Ufff Now I can sleep peacefully, there are still more blue than red

@KobaGlazer 6 дней назад

0:46 Varang's Ikran looks VERY similar to the tetrapteron in my opinion! Especially it's head crest.

@nightlasher Месяц назад

I hope we see the ash people and Quaritch working together

@user-dc7jf4qc3z Месяц назад

I believe and I have seen what Varanga is capable of if she wins and rides this new creature, but no, we will never give up, but what is she. It may seem crazy and may just be a clan warrior, the Ash clan and their leader Varanga, try to keep their emotions and rather as an assumption that she looks like this. While this movie in detail on this character there is only one Fire and Ash?

@cheese7988 Месяц назад

In the scene where it looks like quaritch is with the fire na’vi it gave me an idea that maybe he uses them to spark a war with the Metkayiana or a war of some sort. 3:56

@erenjeager5290 Месяц назад

I think the main controversial part of this movie is that this fire tribe has no issue siding with humans for their own tiny advancement. Sort of like how some native Americans had sided with the French, British, or Americans to fight other tribes in the area for their own gain. Then again, Jake’s people have also heavily integrated human technology into their guerrilla fighting style, so maybe they just had the idea first.

@Person-wz6iy Месяц назад

Looking forward to this film's Visual Dictionary!

@ILUVMESOMEFOOD Месяц назад

If you look in the background, it kinda looks like the sacred place of the Metkiyina, but Im not really sure, though, since it's sacred😂

@fewcusi Месяц назад

I said the same thing! This looks like the Cove of the Ancestors.

@hebavdusbdd9277 Месяц назад

I bet it will look like this, ash clan vs jake and later they will team up, or jake with toruk vs this women and her creature

@johnaxcelsantos2593 25 дней назад

The Colonel in Avatar 3 will be thirsty for blood. But I do hope Varan will be more bloodthirsty than him and ended up fighting each other😅

@janeduardodesouzadickmann3639 27 дней назад

man, this behind the scenes image looks like it really is Quaritch, and if this scene is him looking for help and manipulating the fire clan, maybe that's why they have Navy's with weapons in the concept art, it's him and the other Avatars revived with their group and in fact the fire clan will be antagonists of the plot.

@Tickyuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 20 дней назад

I reckon its a different type of banshee (breed) like there is with most animals like (example) frogs - tree frog or glass frog! I also think that horn is to break through rock/magma!

@glasfuechsin3085 Месяц назад

I think the Ash Na'vi will side with the RDA, and that's why they have guns and why Wainfleet and Quaritch are probably with them.

@darkroselight3835 25 дней назад

I'm very looking forward to this movie. I hope we get to learn more about the other Navi clans and cultures. Honestly anything with the RDA/Humans/Quaritch are my least favorite parts of the story. I wanna see more of the planet and the people.

@heitorgonzalesneto9189 28 дней назад

2:39 this give me the feeling that Varang will be like Toruk Makto to the Ash people. Since she rides the creature that is like the major flying predator of that region. Just like the toruk is to the inkrans in the forest

@user-zj2pk8hr9z Месяц назад

For me the creature is a mix of a ikran and a stingbat

@TheGoddon 29 дней назад

So glad the Chaplin lady is officially mainstream now.

@legion5938 29 дней назад

James cameran said the ash clan hate the other na'vi and will do anything to be in power so it makes sense they team up with some humans

@xaviersantos5562 Месяц назад

You can see a recom in the bottom right it looks like its wainfleet

@xXToraKobayashiXx 29 дней назад

This creature looks more like a huge Stingbat than a Stormglider

@User-k3g5p 27 дней назад

Jake's gonna need the leonopteryx back to fight these guys

@kelpyyyyy 28 дней назад

New ikran-like creature resembles a stingbat to a striking degree. I'm more than certain that this new species is likely related to the stingbat in some way

@neofulcrum5013 Месяц назад

I had a feeling the ash clan had their own dedicated mounts. If they are storm gliders, then it says much about the Ash Clan in being able to tame them.

@wit-grizzly2423 Месяц назад

I feel that there is gonna be some sort of alliance between the ash poeple and the RDA more specifically quaritch. But my question is why. The only two options that i can think of is 1. They don’t like Jake Sully 2. I think it shoud take a lot more then just hating one person or family to join a faction that has brought death and dustruction to your own world. No i think the ash people are neglected and mistreated by the other NA’VI clans, and because of that they want to be respected and maybe hungry for power. the RDA (quaritch) are misleading them to get it by betraying the clans and capture or kill Jake sully. That’s what i am speculating looking at these concept images and what we have seen from bts inages.

@torvovenator Месяц назад

I have a feeling the ash clan will join to rda, maybe quarich promise them amenities of the human world and probably the ash clan will use human weapons.

@martingilrios5640 20 дней назад

I'm intrigued by what's going to happen between Spider and Quarich, why will the Sullys end up realizing that Spider saved Quarich?

@torukmaktopoland Месяц назад

Two visions: 1. Beginning if the film, when Ash people arrive to Metkayina to pay the tribute (=> Metkayina's are slaves for Ash People) 2. Culmination point: Beginning of the final battle when 'Fireiers' with Recoms flight with Jake and Tonowari

@user-ik1jw5le8i Месяц назад

Im so excited i still think the seed bearer was better but this title is great too and this concept art is amazing

@NoelleTheNatureWitch16 Месяц назад

I am so excited for this. I'm so excited for Avatar 3

@nahuelzalazar7191 Месяц назад

Genio🇦🇷

@marcuscarana9240 25 дней назад

Avatar One: Earth and Air(Forest Navi with Ikrans flying) Avatar Two: Water Avatar Three: Fire

@thembinkosisosikela3936 29 дней назад

Jake Sully will need his turuk back for this or myb another turuk makto for this

@ShaktiChaturvedi Месяц назад

WE HAVE PANDORAN AIRSHIPS WE HAVE PANDORAN AIRSHIPS Jim and company cooking as usual

@aidanziegler Месяц назад

Since there is only one of these creatures in the shot I wonder if it is like Toruk from Avatar 1 that the clan leader rides.

@leon22081994 Месяц назад

We didnt need to before, but now we need to see an ikran-riding prolemuris wielding a rocket launcher

@Katelyn-nc5em Месяц назад

Maybe the Recoms make it to the ash people first and get them to work with RDA to attack the sullys and Metkiyena?

@lucasO3032 Месяц назад

Hey AT just wanted to point out: After looking at another photo (but you’ll probably make another vid for that) I just wanted to point out that it looks like a pirate ship floating in the sky. This is the photo of the big blob to the right btw, just wanted to point it out 💙

@synivy4576 28 дней назад

Umm EXCUSE ME WHAT???? This is unexpected but pleasant surprise

@zoecast1 25 дней назад

If Varang allies with Quaritch I’ll be disappointed

@sushi_awards4793 26 дней назад

Dont they have their kuru's cut off? Wouldnt that mean they cant connect to anything? Meaning they wouldnt be able to fly?

@Marco_______ Месяц назад

The creatures definitely look like relatives of the stingbat from the first avatar.

@PiotrPavel 25 дней назад

I would ecpected red ones but ok

@blur9803 Месяц назад

Idk if I’m delusional but the name is kinda similar too game of thrones prophecy “ ice and fire “

@hebavdusbdd9277 Месяц назад

this photo is real or fake?

@erenjeager5290 Месяц назад

Real

@hebavdusbdd9277 Месяц назад

@@erenjeager5290 looks great, gray-blue color, more aggressive creatures, I bet Jake will get his toruk back in part 3

@AvatarTheory Месяц назад

It is a real concept image on Avatar 3, which was presented at D23

@Tickyuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 20 дней назад

at 4:26 wth is that :o

@Dominik2.09 Месяц назад

When is this coming out

@AvatarTheory Месяц назад

December 19, 2025

@Dominik2.09 Месяц назад

@@AvatarTheory Dang

@live4life551 Месяц назад

Very refreshing that some Na'vi are gonna be using the invaders weapons in spite of previous laws, just like most Native Americans did in the past

@BlckJohnnyQuest Месяц назад

There gonna post pone this due to the next Covid variant

@kentslocum Месяц назад

This is certainly the least interesting of the four pieces of concept art that were released, bet I am no less hyped for December 19, 2024! 😊

@sunfire2614 28 дней назад

Avatar: House of the Dragon?

@dykttatuoBOULEVARD 20 дней назад

Why do Fire navi's looks bald their kurus dont have hair and most of them are literally bald and have less hair than the other navi tribes

@Ace18928 Месяц назад

Exciting times, I wish we get to see Toruk in action again.

@jjode_3286 Месяц назад

the head of the ikran looks a lot like a stingbat

@StoicSurvivor99 23 дня назад

Disney has a reputation of making their movies soft and weak. I want the Navi antagonists to be sadistic, psychopathic, just pure evil to the core. While also having a compelling reason to justify their barbaric natures. Like their cruelty and the evil atrocities they committed against the Navi is an instinct of POWER to the navi exiles of the shadow lands or the tribes of the ashes. So they can be the most dominant force of pandora. Unless, the humans wipe them out.

@yanmorais777 Месяц назад

and one thing that could happen is the Quaricth teaching the fire na'vis how to use weapons as their own private army

@sawney_bean Месяц назад

Those weapons do look like rpg's now why are the ash blue's using human tech gives way to many teories 1 na'vi human alliance kinda cool using the savages to fight the savages 2 using human weapons against the RDA means bad day for the humans