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Every motorway sign needs to say keep left when not overtaking (if not showing any other message). We need more roads policing of lane hogging.

Another collection of great points. 6:48 was genius. Not making direct eye contact with the pedestrian but rather staring down the road told the pedestrian you were waiting for oncoming traffic, not for him. I must remember that one.

I started driving in 1986 and I can report that The Centre Lane Owners' Club has held on to a thriving membership for nearly forty years, at least.

I see the crew have arrived at 15:48 to give that Smart car a clean 😁

Lane discipline is bad enough in England, but here in Northern Ireland what makes it much worse is that 90% of our motorways only have two lanes. So anybody lane hogging is holding up the entire motorway, not just one lane (which would be bad enough). One redeeming feature is that we have a lot of unmarked Police cars in Northern Ireland. I drive a dark coloured Jaguar saloon with various electronic devices (four cameras and two e-tag tabs) in the front windows. I've noticed how much better lane discipline becomes in front of me when I have another bloke sitting in the front seat beside me!

Considering most motorists don’t know about the rule of stopping for pedestrians at roundabouts, why would pedestrians know? Pedestrians aren’t required to read the Highway Code. It’s a ridiculous rule anyway and just ends up causing confusion, as it did in this video.

That BMW at 13:00 (or thereabouts) - you rightly asked you learner "what are they doing", and I, with knocking on the door or 40 years driving experience, thought "not a bloody clue Ashley...". He/she they then carried on in the chevroned region all the way to the traffic lights...

I think a big reason we see more poor lane discipline on motorways today is just down to a lack of visible policing, as well as more and more drivers on our roads.

With regards to lane discipline, I think it can vary by why people are on the road as much as anything else. I remember coming south on the A1 several months back and finding generally okay lane discipline, but when I came off the A1, onto I think it was the A46, lane discipline was immediately, seriously worse. Exact same time of day as I didn't stop, clearly the same part of the country, but immediately different. My only guess would be the A46 seemed to be more of a local dual carriageway whereas the A1 is obviously the north-south corridor for the country; maybe the poor standards arose from people commuting or driving short distances for work who were driving selfishly to minimise their journey time, whereas people on longer journeys on the A1 were less constrained by deadlines because they had little else to do that day other than finish their journey. One thing supporting this hypothesis for me was that on a separate occasion a month or two ago, I was travelling south on the A1 again. On the road for ages, about as good lane discipline as you ever see, until I got stuck in stand still traffic for hours outside of Stamford. After like 3-4 hours of basically not moving, we eventually got past whatever accident had happened and after getting back onto the A1, lane discipline basically wasn't a thing. Everyone was everywhere and the whole road was doing about 50-60mph. My guess, partially because it was busy, but also because people were fed up and just wanted to get home, so they couldn't be bothered to observe good lane discipline.

Yes. Around Portsmouth it is horrific. So many people travelling 10-20mph below the speed limit in any random lane, with clear lanes to their left.

I have been driving since the late 60's, lane discipline has not changed since then, just as bad then, also with the gap closers. The dark car joining, I would not have used the car horn, as I have seen too much aggression, just move to right hand lane, then move back either before or after it, depending on their acceleration, as we could see it would join into the middle lane, then the right hand lane and exit at the last minute. I drive to and from Southern Scotland a few times a year. Driving from the South of England we usually plan an overnight stop about 2/3's of the journey North now. I am learning and enjoying your videos, many thanks to your learners for sharing.

@AshleyNeal I finally passed my manual test last Tuesday having held my Auto licence for nearly three years and boy was it a hard test. Everything that could have been thrown at me,was. I would like to thank you for your informative videos as they’ve really helped me and it was great to finally have a good instructor after my first one four years ago kept pressing the clutch down when he thought I was going to stall. Top marks Ashley 👍🏻👍🏻

I used to do around 60k a year (in a car) all over the country. I would say lane discipline in general is poor but closer to London and around the M25 it’s shocking. Generally outside of commuting hours, or mid-week out of holiday season, where most of the drivers who are on the motorway use it regularly, then the standard of driving is usually much better.

Ive seen that exact smart car when visiting family up your way. Really quite distinctive even at a distance

The lane discipline has definitely got worse in the 9 years I've been driving. And like one of your clips, you get people who join and go straight into lane 2, even if lane 1 was clear when they joined! I think it's worse on all lane running motorways, people just don't want to use lane 1.

6:05 This topic again. 😉Mis-placed courtesy here, and why I'd not stop there unless in a queue of crawling traffic. If I was waiting to cross I'd much rather you continue and I cross after you. The risk of another vehicle coming through is just too high. I know your answer (and the section of the Highway Code it is in - the junction one, not the RAB section), but this would be fine turning into a side road, but leaving a RAB, especially an exit with a bend is not a good idea. Just for clarity, I do stop when safe and appropriate, but this one I wouldn't have. I'll be interested in seeing you do this on the Triumph! As you've said elsewhere the implementation of this is a mess.

Flooring specialist near me used to have a whole fleet of astroturf vehicles, one of which was a Vauxhall Astra estate which I couldn't resist calling the "Astra-turf"!

I live in the West Country and reguarly use M4, M5 & M25 and the lack of lane discipline is so frustrating with people sitting in the middle lane and impact that has on the overall flow of traffic!

One of the reasons is that if you move back into lane 1 you will then find a nose to tail fast moving stream of traffic appears behind you in lane two, giving you no opportunity to get back out to lane two to pass the slower moving lane 1 vehicle which you soon come up against.

I live in London and I've always said that lane discipline is the worst down here, whenever I go on a trip somewhere I always know when I'm close to home when I start seeing people spread across all of the lanes. Drives me insane!

I have noticed lane hogging is poor the nearer London you get. But what noticed is red light jumping is by far worse up north.

Rail worker here from the midlands, regularly do lengthy motorway journeys to commute to jobs up and down the country and have done for 20 years. Can't say I've noticed lane discipline getting worse in the last few years - it's as bad as it has ever been although 4 lane sections seem to be worse than 3. Hugely agree with the point about it being worse down south. When I head down to London I tend to keep a mentally tally of them (it's just something else to do to relieve the monotony of the journey). I can normally count on one hand how many lane hoggers are around between Leicester and Luton, and then lose count between Luton and the M25. I sometimes think it's because many of the London ring roads/circulars lane 1 is becomes more of a transition lane with so many exits and entrances so people become accustomed to only using it when their exit is coming up.

Your point with lane discipline is definitely valid. I haven't even gotten my full licence yet and I can tell whenever I travel on a motorway people don't seem to have a clue. Although it may be that many people, especially further South, don't ever have driving lessons on motorways, and, as a result, don't learn and understand the importance of lane discipline. Excellent video as always Ashley!

“Has lane discipline got worse?” Anyone who drives on a motorway for a prolonged period of time will tell you lane discipline is probably the No1 issue. Shocking attitudes and ignorance leading to poor behaviours.

Good video Ashley shows how much you need to be aware of other people and anticipate what they are going to do. I cycle a lot and me just watching the cars body language shows how I can adjust what I’m doing. You’ve helped me over the amount of time I’ve been watching you and I can’t be more grateful.

5:46 Always remember to give priority to any shopping trolleys that may be waiting to cross...

Please report that taxi Ashley, they need taking off the roads.

That stop at 6:00 on the roundabout exit is ill advised IMO, although technically correct it just causes confusion as you saw here. If the pedestrians had been pushing to cross then fair enough but they weren’t, in addition it’s likely to catch cars behind you out, be prepared for a future rear ending. Also in a two lane exit (not here) it could be darn right dangerous for the pedestrians. Anyway not something I would have done and I won’t be doing in the future (not withstanding scenarios where pedestrians are pushing to cross).

The most annoying thing about lane discipline on the motorway is when people sit in the middle lane, while the inside lane is totally empty, and as soon as you move into the outside lane to overtake, they change to the inside lane. 6:09 the suggestion of zebra crossings at junctions, I noticed when I was driving in Italy a few weeks ago, and when I was on holiday in Crete a few years ago that they use a lot of zebra crossing, but, they seem to be a suggestion as most of the locals just keep driving if people are waiting.

Not only poor lane discipline , but I think the main reason is often lack of confidence and observation skills , mental inflexibility. If i would drive that Yaris, i would move left and keep eye on traffic behind to decide if and when next overtake needed , if at all. I drive heavy and underpowered trucks, and i still manage to fit in with forward planning and keeping an eye 180 degree. I now also drive a personal underpowerd cheap petrol car , and still get past others in their powerful German cars with my foreard observations and better positioning. We need more driver education. Not more lanes .

Only passed 3 weeks ago , got my car 2 days , ago bin watchin for months , tips like these are worth a watch , thanks

Oh yes, the further south you go the worse it is. On a recent drive from Derby to Kent, I was appalled at the motorway driving once I had passed over the QE2 bridge. Not only was lane discipling non existent, tailgating, heavy braking, lack of signals etc was appalling.

Agreed on lane discipline Ash. I've noticed m25 both ways is particularly bad, it almost divides into 2 dual carriageways, with lanes 1-2 and lane 3-4 doing their own thing. M40 and M3 both seem to have a lot of middle lane sitters...

I notice that when ever someone is slightly inconvenienced by traffic (no more than anyone else), when they decide to change direction, such as turning around to go back the way they came, or pass all the traffic on the wrong side to make a turn, they always have to do it fast, as if to make a point that everyone has wronged them.

6:00 - Another great example of why I don't do this, I'd say the vast majority of people don't understand why you've stopped on a roundabout and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

5:30 something else you see a lot of. Your reaction was warranted. Poor, poor used of indicator, *almost* to the point where it is pointless

It genuinely is baffling to me how many people still seem to think that the left lane on the motorway is only for trucks, or only for turning off, and sit going 50 in the middle lane. Most people won't know every single rule of the road as there's some obscure ones you'll rarely encounter, but this one is so high profile I don't know how anyone doesn't know it at this point. It's also extra annoying how many things you see people do are high risk with low gain. Reckless lane changing and speed fluctuations saving probably about 15 seconds on their journey, and yet could literally kill someone if going wrong. It just feels so unnecessary. I'm not going to pretend I've not sped a little bit in the past, most drivers have, but you can still be over the limit and drive in a safe manner by being predictable and sensible.

Was driving through an average speed zone yesterday around the M25 and was in lane 3. There were two or three people sitting on my number flashing their headlights at me to move over or move faster. There's no space in lane 2 and I'm moving faster than they were. Same behaviour was happening in lane 2. People coming up behind people and flashing their lights at them over and over. Admittedly after they started sitting on my bumper I become predisposed to not reacting at all. When they start flashing their lights I became stubborn and refused to respond to them in any way. Some would undertake by swinging out to lane 1 and then out to lane 3 again. Then what did they do? Sit at 50 lol. Mindnumbingly silly. These were cars which you would think had cruise control. I had mine set to 52. The standard of driving has really dropped. It becomes particularly worse around London. I'm always sad when I have to leave Soemrset to come back here.

Regarding the car transporter pushing its way in front of the learner at 9:16 - Ashley posted a video of a similar incident a few months ago from a different instructor ("Should The Instructor Have Sussed This Out?"). I don't know the level of experience of Ashley's pupil, but I'm quite surprised Ashley didn't point out the transporter indicating left straight away and ask the pupil to slow down and grow a gap for the transporter.

Incorrect or complete lack of use of indicators on roundabouts has become a game of 'guess where I'm going' for me. The recent changes regarding pedestrian/cyclist priority has only added to the 'fun'.

I passed (on the left) at least a dozen lane 2/3 hoggers on 80 miles of M6 and M5 yesterday. Left lane is like a personal lane nowadays.

Oooh, lane discipline on motorways - possibly worse down south, but I find it's more the road than the latitude. The M40 may as well be two lanes in some sections. At least I can usually find peace in lane 1.

About lane discipline I noticed recently, the issue with returning to lane 1 is that even though it massively helps the flow of traffic, for the individual person it can get you trapped in lane 1 behind the next lorry since lane 2 is more congested with traffic pulling in from lane 3 and you end up having to slow down to the speed of the lorry for some time before you're let back into lane 2. I can definitely sympathise with people who want to just stay in lane 2, but that Yaris in the second clip was massively taking the piss regardless.

6:05 classic example of why stopping at the exit of a roundabout is a bad idea. Had they just driven on, peds would have crossed behind, where there was plenty of space and time. By stopping, it confused everyone, increased the risk or a rear end collision and added delay.

The problem I'm dealing with the most at the moment is impatience when I'm trying to park. I say "trying" not because it's difficult for me (20 years driving and now also with camera and sensors - takes like 10 seconds) but because other people make it difficult. Examples: parallel reverse park, narrow road, start to back in. Young lad (one of the boy racers who does circuits around town I believe) forces his way past, missing my side by a couple of mm, and only because I caught on and straightened up otherwise he'd have just ploughed through me with his s**tbox without a care in the world. Go to continue my parking, one behind him also forces her way through. Another one, supermarket, car park, looking to reverse into a bay. One behind does the other usual classic - stops an inch from your bumper so you can't back up. Nothing to do but drive around the whole block of bays and try again. Start backing in - get the same type of person from the first example forcing their way past when there's not really room and missing me by a tiny tiny fraction of an inch. No one is willing to just wait 10 seconds and would rather risk an insurance claim?

I have to say that around where I live, drivers seem to becoming more aware of the new HC sections on pedestrians at junctions.

Excellent video, Ash. Thank you. If only we could all be patient and help each other out. Driving would be a pleasure. It is most of the time but....

5:00 "Nothing wrong with using all the road space". *Generally* true. However *in this situation* there's 2 lanes into the junction that come out of the junction as what looks to be(*) a single lane. In that case using all the road space means that you'd need to merge with the other travel lane in the middle of a junction, with traffic potential turning traffic making any move that you and the flow that you're trying to merge with are doing more complex. In layouts like this(*) the right thing to do would be to make one of the two lanes a dedicated turn lane. Just because the local council (or relevant traffic authority) has failed to do so wouldn't make queueing in both lanes a wise thing to do. (*)Judging from the width, this one might actually be effectively 2 poorly marked lanes with the dashed line between them missing. My remarks are general about all junctions with that layout, regardless of whether this is or isn't one of them.

From @13:20 that BMW was a danger to everyone else on the road, that was real erratic driving. I hope you reported them to the authorities.

In the white Mercedes turning right clip, I’m surprised no mention was made of the black Peugeot that blocked the pedestrian crossing

12:08 also have a look at the car behind you, leaving enough space for cars to make their way through. people doing the right thing even without yellow boxes :)

I would certainly say there is a regional difference. I used to live in the south and people were very impatient there possibly because the roads were much busier. In the Midlands where I live now the main difference I have noticed is people seem to be very distracted at traffic lights and take an eternity to pull away.

I can't even begin to describe how much your videos have helped with my motorway driving in particular. I used to be so on edge about merging and changing lanes, but now I don't even think about it.

Lane disipline; have you ever driven on the M25? Lane disipline doesn't exist even off peak!

That junction at the top of Long Lane into Sandy Lane is a constant in your videos, particularly for cars not waiting their turn in the queue. I drive past this everyday on my way to work down Long Lane and sit in the queue back at the top my way home, and this junction is one of the most dangerous on my route, I see the same issues you day do, day in day out. Sandy Lane at this junction should be one way, that is only exiting from Sandy Lane onto Long Lane, and no entry into Sandy Lane from Long Lane. This would stop (reduce) the issues here of impatient drivers, drivers cutting the corner, etc, and it would also help the flow of traffic not being stopped by (the patient) drivers turning into Sandy Lane. Love your videos, rally educating, even for a driver of 33yrs.

I've seen artificial grass on a couple of cars over the years, but around 1986, I've seen a Morris Minor Traveller, with real grass across the whole roof, watered daily, and kept trimmed.

5:02 nice of the car on the left to block the crossing too.

11:25 Colin Furze did something similar with an old beamer, as well as filling the interior with water. Was brilliant

youll find its pretty bad north too. well around bradford sorta area. but now am driving trucks I ither see it more, or notice it more. I also notice WAY too many people drive much too close, and find it amusing from my vantage point its really obvious, because they are the random break lights that keep coming on, but no other break lights around em

Some say the Yaris is still in the middle lane to this day.

I definitely agree with you on the further south you go, the worse it gets. I recently drove from Glasgow to Manchester. The lane discipline on the M74/M6 was pretty good. As soon as we got on the M61 the lane discipline went out the window... So many cars driving in the middle lane.

I've been driving for 42 years. I learned in Scotland and spent several years driving there and have returned at least once every year since. I have lived in Essex, Berkshire, Middlesex and Germany. I have driven extensively throughout the UK and Europe. Lane discipline in the UK is getting worse and I think I know why. It's all to do with attitudes to the use of speed and speed enforcement. In Germany lane discipline is generally very good. If you don't keep right, you will be involved in a high speed rear-ender! With high speed comes greater responsibility and greater adherence to good driving manners. In German cities which are busy and have low speed limits, lane discipline is generally worse. Belgium is terrible. For many years they've had low motorway speed limits and an attitude that nobody breaks the speed limit and so lane discipline is truly awful. Next door in the Netherlands, the attitudes are different and driving standards are better. In Scotland there was a crack down on speeding in the 90s and an attitude realignment similar to that of smoking or drink driving. Lane discipline by corollary is now horrific. England are Wales started that transition maybe 15 years ago and as a result lane discipline is getting much worse. If my theory is correct there's a few more years of transition left, so things are only going to get worse. Sorry everyone. There is another factor: volume of traffic. The more traffic, the worse the lane discipline and so southern England is generally worse than northern England.

I live on the south coast not far from Goodwood, and yes lane discipline is not good. But the problem often is that when you pull in drivers in the outside lane then speed up and box you in, so that you cannot get back out again. This encourages people to stay out in the outside lane which is somewhat understandable. What isn’t understandable is when they hog the middle or outside lane when the road is half empty. Saying that, some areas of the inside lane of main A27 dual carriageway used to have horrendous annoying pot holes, so anyone who travels the road regular develops the habit of using the outside lane so to save the car from vibrating like a bloody washboard. I would say that the M3 south of the M4 is worse and also the A32 is also not good. One of the worst roads for lane disabling I found is the A11 in East Anglia. It’s 2 lanes and when the Lorries pull out at 50MPH it causes long trains of cars backing up, so everyone stays out in lane 2 because they don’t want a slow lorry pulling out in front of them. Generally I think the problem is that at peak times there is more traffic than the roads can cope with, a lot want to travel a 80MPH plus, So when you get a slow vehicle everyone is fighting over the outside lane to get past. During quiet times you can keep good discipline by looking ahead and planning when to pull in and out, but during heaving traffic you have no chance because once you pull in you get trapped by a constant stream of traffic on the outside with no chance of getting out again.

I’ve said it for years (I’m live in Scotland ) the further south you go the faster and worse the driving standards seem to be.

I don't know about up North, but lane hogging on the M3 and M27 down in Hampshire is awful. I've been driving 30 years and it's definitely seems worse than ever before.

My understanding is that red and amber lights do NOT mean you can go, but that's what happened at 5:28. In Australia, if you're unlucky enough to get a traffic officer, you would have been picked up for illegal lane change at 5:33. At 7:40 what happened to always walking/running on the right so you're facing on-coming traffic and can see if you need to take evasive action?

I have noticed a lot of bad driving skills in my area of Nottinghamshire and have noticed a lot of the poor discipline is from mainly foreign drivers who just don’t understand the rules. Plus the lack of indication at filter lights is because people find it irritating to sit listening to the indicator repeater sounds, so they leave it until the lights change to then indicate, if they indicate at all, but indicators are a fitted optional extra on all models of Audi, Mercedes and BMW’s.

I drive on northern motorways regularly, but I've also been down south. I'd say middle lane hogging is slightly worse in the middle/south of England, but you still see it a lot up here. I see work vehicles doing it as well, which includes the road work vehicles I see carrying temp traffic lights about etc. It makes driving on the motorways a pain because good lane discipline means I'm going from lane 1 to 3 and back again pretty often because someone is travelling at 45/50 in lane 2.

Years ago I witnessed a slow speed head on collision with the exact scenario @3:01 because the emerging car was looking to their right. I haven't stopped laughing ever since.

i fully agree with the further down south you go the worse lane discipline gets. for my training i had to be down in crawley for about 7 months, and im from teesside. now i used to think that some of the driving at home is terrible, but, after being down there for 7 months, it's night and day difference. I will also never complain about the quality of the roads at home again

I've just driven from Pwllheli to Cardiff via Birmingham and the M5 and M6 are by far the worse M roads for lane discipline. I lost count at how many vehicles were in lane 3 or 4 doing 60 or slower. Absolutely shocking

I've just got back from a week in Yorkshire on holiday and comparing it to last year when I was down in Bedfordshire all I can think of is how much more considerate drivers south of the border seems to be VS up here in Scotland. I had 2 occasions for a sharp intake of breath and both of them were north of the border and 1 within 30 miles of my house!

I know we’ve been disciplined that some company did a survey of experience drivers and asked them why they did Middle Lane hogging. Apparently most said that that’s what they thought was the normal driving lane.

Opening comments regarding lane discipline, it hasn’t got worse over the years it has just become more noticeable. Although I was one of those “further down southers” you mentioned I think the biggest issue was road design. Junctions designed to aid flow by having an entry slip road become lane 1 and then lane 1 becoming an exit slip road means that drivers feel more comfortable in lane 2 as “they are not taking the exit” Nowadays it is probably a combination of lack of enforcement combined with aggressive drivers forcing their way last second onto a road or exiting a road that make some feel safer in lane 2. Then of course are the CLODers…they will sit behind someone in lane 2 doing 55mph until they move out of the way and then accelerate to 85mph to catch up with the next vehicles and match their speed…never changing lane until they wish to exit and usually try to do so while alongside a lorry with 300 yards until the exit

Of course there are significant regional variations in driving standards particularly discipline such as lanes and signalling and also courtesy like giving way, thanking people and help maintaining traffic flow - but we're not allowed to say why!

I regulatrly drive Dover to Nottingham and Dover to Cornwall. I agree with you Ashley there is regional variation in lane discipline, it's worse the nearee you are to London.

6.02; Sorry Ashley, with regards to the pedestrians who would not cross, in my mind they were correct rules or no rules. Personally I won’t let a driver tell me when to cross. That is my decision and if the car stops ”I” will either do as these pedestrians did or tailor my crossing to be when I deem it to be safe for me. If the driver wants to stop, ok, but other drivers may not. As you say, “until they are going to do anything about it, it aint going to get any better”, well it’s because they changed it that is causing the issues in the first place. The rules were fine the way they were and had been for decades. These pedestrians did have a clue. They said no thanks. End of.

Recently I’ve started using the A14 between Thrapston and Cambridge a lot having never used it before. There must be something about that road because in both directions, rush hour during a working day or the dead of night at a weekend, there’s always someone in either lane 2 or 3 when there’s plenty of space in lane 1. I know that lane discipline is getting worse generally, but here it was so stark I noticed it straight away. I’ve even mentally compared it to other roads like the M1 since just to rule out any confirmation bias on my part, and it’s definitely worse on the A14. No idea why!

You are 100% correct, lane discipline does appear to be getting a lot worse. The worst motorway for it I've found is around the Almondsbury interchange outside of Bristol, particularly the M5. You'll find lane hoggers from the almondsbury interchange all the way down to the Weston Super Mare junction some 21 miles later. And the middle lane campers almost always cross from the middle lane as late as possible to jump into Junction 21 on the M5. After that junction, it's usually plain sailing to Exeter. This has been incredibly frustrating at times as those hogging the middle lane tend to sit between 50mph and 60mph. If I'm towing my trailer and come up against one sat under 60, I can't legally overtake in lane 3 so just have to sit behind them until they get the hint. When I drove up to Scotland last year, I did notice it was also fairly common on the M8 between Edinburgh and Glasgow. And definitely the worst place for it in my opinion is the A34 between Oxford and Winchester. It's not a motorway and only two lanes but have usually gotten stuck behind someone doing 60mph the entire way in the outside lane who refuses to move back in because the next truck to overtake is 1/2 mile up the road. Seen a lot of dodgy undertakes on that road due to people being frustrated with these outside lane campers.

Sat nav drivers: . That Fiesta moving across 3 lanes to exit drop lane..😅 No forward planning. 😅

7:15 I was a bit disappointed that there was no commentary around this. The Highway Code tells pedestrians to use the right hand side of the road to face oncoming traffic. What I didn't realise until I looked it up just now is that it advises to cross over in order to see round bends. It's unclear if that's what's happened here. The runner has as much right to be there as any other road user but I don't think I'd choose that road.

National observation. Birmingham is the worst place I've ever had to drive. Anywhere near the M5-M6 merger or any city driving is fraught with danger. Veezu taxi drivers are amongst some of the worst drivers I've ever seen.

Good to have video evidence of the car overtaking then cutting in to occupy the space you intended to use at the box junction.

Driven Glasgow down to Bristol over the past couple years and can attest to worse lane discipline the further south you travel, the best discipline I often see between Carlisle and Glasgow

6:28 "But they'd have to put them everywhere for people to understand what's going on." If only the purpose of road markings was to make sure that people understand what's going on... It's really a shame (as in, a reason to be ashamed) that first world countries can't (or don't want to) afford something like paint on the roads. And I'm saying "first world" and not "The UK" because this austerity mindset is becoming a problem in more and more places.

The white Merc turning right: it's been a long time observation of mine that many people think indicators are for indicating what they're doing, not what they intend to do. (A very common one are indicators that come on only while actually changing lanes on a motorway)

This rule especially coming off roundabouts to give way to pedestrians is dangerous, a few weeks ago I was behind a van who rear ended a car while doing that, also its dangerous for pedestrians as well as I've seen some assuming right of way just walking out, a recipe to be injured or worse.I won't stop on exiting at all now cause it's really risky but always aware of pedestrians wanting to take priority

I passed last week done about 200 mile on the M6 already - between Staffordshire, Blackpool and Manchester - and yes lane discipline seems to be awful. They really harm traffic flow and put themselves and others in danger when you inevitably get someone who has to undertake

as someone living down south id 100% agree with the lane discipline complaints being worse here. i struggle to do 70 on even the clearest sections of the m25 cos of people sat in whatever lane they please

I have found that central lane 60mph hogging is usually a specific subset of people. A good 80% of people doing it fall into this subset. I spend about 3 hour per day on the motorway so have quite a lot of experience checking it

There was a company in Northampton which sold artificial grass that had their vehicles covered covered in it.

Hi Ashley, straight off the top I have always considered lane discipline in this country to be little short of atrocious, actually I mostly avoid motorways nowadays because I no longer so relish the challenge of staying alive out there!. Four decades ago I travelled a lot more and for several years travelled on motorways at very high speeds on various powerful motorcycles, this involved passing a very large number of other vehicles!, often several hundred each hour!. One of the most common things was to find a large car in the outside lane with often both other lanes empty, I must confess now with no shame at all that rather than sit there behind for God knows how long I usually took an inside lane to undertake and usually did so as fast as I could to minimise the chance that I might get cut off!, that luckily never happened!. I did get into the habit of treating all other drivers with utter contempt and acting as if I was invisible to them!. The other part of that of course is that back then there was actually far less traffic on the roads most of the time so encounters with other dodgy drivers less frequent than perhaps they are now, still roughly the same proportion. Now that6 I do tend to drive in a much more relaxed manner I do stay in amongst the same group of other traffic than previously and careful observation reveals generally reasonable behaviour apart from the same strange habits like cutting right turn junctions because the driver is fixated on the centre line not the distant curb, that and of course still sitting there some time after the lights have changed and crossing on amber, again most likely just watching the car in front. Overall I cannot say it is either better or worse. It just looks as if a lot of drivers do not want to be driving! they are anxious and uncertain and are only driving to get somewhere they do want to be!. I suspect that this is a significant issue that driving instructors likwe you do address but is clearly not established standard practise. Cheers, Richard.

The attitude of everyone these days is "I'm more important than you". Sadly this means that respect and common courtesy is something we will see less and less. I'd probably have moved into lane 3 for the fiesta as once you beeped, it created conflict, which they look to have taken exception to. Sadly the roads are becoming like the wild west, where anything goes.

Drove up the A23 from Brighton the other day, and used to do it regularly years ago. A lot of it is 3 lanes now, but the lane 2 hogging was epidemic along it. So much worse than it used to be (and it was never that good before). Yet I saw a speed camera van parked up, and bet they didn't capture any of the middle lane hogging.

I travel mainly on the M53, M56, M6, M5 and A74(M)/M74. The worst is the M6 south of Preston to the M1. The best lane discipline I see is on the M53 and the M6 north of Preston all the way up to the M73. The offenders, in my experience, are young people (maybe just passed their test), middle-aged women (I have no rational theory), and foreign-looking people (maybe learned to drive overseas where their standards are lower than Britons expect). I think that there are more young people and foreign people around the midlands, which is where I see the worst driving. There are many foreign-looking people between Preston and Birmingham, also.

I don't drive nationwide but I regularly use the M3 and the lane discipline on there is nonexistent most days

The M6 between the M56 and the M55 is terrible for the poor lane discipline as exhibited by the second clip. The local drivers ignore that they are joining another motorway (typically busy) and sweep from the motorway they are joining from to the outside lane of the M6 (between 4 and 5 lanes) and sweep back late when they want to leave. When I get to this section of the M6 I slow down and try and maintain lots of space around me and avoid changing lanes.

There is definitely regional variation on lane discipline. Around London it’s appalling - assume because most people are used to just following a car in front of them in the city. Around East Devon and Somerset I have been noticing that the lane discipline has actually been very very good, 80-90% of Germany-level. Or maybe I’ve just been very lucky. But it definitely depends on how often people actually use the motorway in their travels

Lane discipline around London and other large cities are usually worse because the people who live there spend a lot of time driving in the city where you may sit in one specific lane for your destination rather than moving to the left. It gets a bit better when you get further from cities but not a lot.