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Ashes of Creation has ALREADY stopped the RMT Apocalypse 

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Ashes of Creation is an open world MMORPG set in a fantasy environment where you can choose different classes and races to adventure through with your friends. Intrepid Studios is the developer behind the game. They’re technically an indie studio, but their creative director Steven Sharif has a clear vision for his video game: Massively Multiplayer Role Playing Game. He wants to put the massive back in MMO. Exploring dungeons, griding for gear, crafting armor/weapons, learning new spells, and competing in large scale PvP battles. High end PvE such as raids will mainly occur in the open world. Bosses will spawn and roam through the land. Are YOU ready to enter the world of Verra?

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@Artanthos
@Artanthos 2 дня назад
I love that they are not going to fuck around when it comes to bringing a hammer down on RMT. I watched what it did to New World. I hope they are successful, seeing things like this is just another indicator I'm seeing of this games massive potential. I really hope they pull this project off.
@squirrellover69.
@squirrellover69. 2 дня назад
The dislikes are from RMTers lol
@philwaugh9095
@philwaugh9095 2 дня назад
100%
@PyraiSage
@PyraiSage 2 дня назад
Thanks for this! Can't wait to see your content once the alpha phases start up :D
@ArtyomKrOost
@ArtyomKrOost 2 дня назад
Dude, I truly hope you'll grow large. MMO space desperately needs more content like yours
@KatoNamus
@KatoNamus День назад
Thanks Doc, excellent summary of what Intrepid have been saying.
@ToffeeTomato
@ToffeeTomato 2 дня назад
Awesome Vid with some great points :D Really hoping to see this in action as soon as possible.
@TheToledoTrumpton
@TheToledoTrumpton 2 дня назад
There are several mechanics that AoC has that will help prevent the economic collapses that you forecast. 1. There will not be unlimited gathering. They have a mechanic whereby over farming anything causes a slowdown in gatherable resources respawning. It doesn't matter how many people are gathering, those farmable resources will have a maximum production rate over time, so potentially production growth (and therefore supply price deflation can never happen). 2. Gold does not drop from mobs, glint does. And the conversion rate from glint to gold can be variable. By the end game, I fully expect the amount of glint you have to trade for gold will be excessive. 3. Node currency will be a thing. In order to buy from a node you will need to own that node's currency. That will be valued against gold. By creating an exchange rate, the value of gold can fluctuate, and gold itself, become almost valueless. Although on the one hand, gold has the advantage of being convertible into any node currency, on the other hand, it might not have real purchasing power on its own. Each node will then have it's own economy. 4. Every citizen will have to pay taxes to be citizens of a node, whether they live in a tavern, or a freehold. That is a gold sink, and need not be fixed price. As the value of that node citizenship goes up, so will the tax. Once again the tax rate for node membership can be variable, so is therefore the gold sink variable. All I have to do is set the total tax payable, to be equal to the gold value of everything produced or farmed in that node (whether it is by members of the node or not), and I have a zero sum economy, by definition.**** 5. If I create a margin in node currency exchange rates, Intrepid can "Persuade" nodes to not trade in gold, but instead deal in node currencies. Buying something with gold may well become almost impossible by the end game. I am just spouting what I remember from my A-Level economics high school classes, If they really have a PHD economist in charge of the economy (who is worth the title), believe me they can make gold-selling a complete waste of effort. **** This might be a really important. First of all if the tax scales by node citizenship as well, it limits the population of a node and therefore zerg guilds/nodes/factions. Secondly, it creates a method whereby a node that is popular even to non-citizens, it will collapse under its own weight, so that the citizens can't afford their taxes. You create a natural mechanic by which nodes can collapse, and you have an unlimited end game. It would also provide a PvP guild/Node with an incentive to play defense, keeping non-citizens out lest they destroy the economy of their node.
@stickyrubb
@stickyrubb 2 дня назад
Just a couple more week bois 'n grillz! :)
@AyeveeGaming-d5n
@AyeveeGaming-d5n 2 дня назад
Thanks for the update!!
@PiriPiri_01
@PiriPiri_01 2 дня назад
We SWEAR the glint isn't meth.
@parko246
@parko246 2 дня назад
So glad to have this video drop as I was about to go to bed lol. Well looks like I'm staying up
@sticqeno288
@sticqeno288 2 дня назад
This is up there with bots imo. Both issues have to be addressed immediately, or your player base could suffer, almost permanently.
@SaluteMalute
@SaluteMalute 2 дня назад
i dont know when the damn gaming community will stop complaining about RMT and ESPECIALLY bots. YOU CANT DO ANYTHING THEY WILL FIND A SOLUTION. BAN THEM? THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN. stop this nonsense.
@vexillian
@vexillian 2 дня назад
@@SaluteMalute So "just let it happen and let the game be completely ruined" is your suggestion?
@Swishiavellian
@Swishiavellian 2 дня назад
As for bots at least we have the flagging system so I don’t see bots being a large problem. RMT just needs to be met with strong community enforcement and harsh penalties.
@user-pt1kj5uw3b
@user-pt1kj5uw3b 2 дня назад
​@@SaluteMaluteIts not an unsolvable problem. No company has deemed it worth it to solve it though
@castamere3368
@castamere3368 2 дня назад
they're kinda hand in hand as well. Bots get money for rmt. So if they know the known Rmt's, i'm assuming they can use that to figure out the network of bots feeding that Rmt, as well as those buying gold.
@OsirisTheWeary
@OsirisTheWeary 2 дня назад
Very informative, thanks doc!
@vexillian
@vexillian 2 дня назад
You know how you can spot some dumbass on the road do something stupid, only to immediately see cherries flare up and watch karma play out in front of you? It's pretty awesome. With active GM's, I hope to be able to have a new place to witness this phenomenon.
@trenttucker3254
@trenttucker3254 2 дня назад
great video as always doc!
@JohnAPrescott
@JohnAPrescott 2 дня назад
The Doc is in and writing scrips!
@SocialFutility
@SocialFutility 2 дня назад
Logging player activity is something any multiplayer game where the client depends on the server could do, this includes every MMO out there (except NW at launch XD). Same with active GMs. But they don't because it's expensive. I actually work with servers, so I'm not pulling this off my ass, I've been told a few times to reduce necessary logging to cut costs on workforce, hardware and traffic. The point is, Ashes, having no box price and no p2w, on top of a big dev team, will most likely generate less revenue than most MMOs there. So will they really be able to keep the logging and GMs up? I don't know, for now it's a neat idea, but until the game is out and running, and they get the numbers, it's just that, copium.
@dnothing23
@dnothing23 2 дня назад
This is totally true, but if they decided at the last minute to have a box price, based on what i am seeing and hearing, I thing id be willing to fork the money over. But, alas, im just one person.
@joshuahetherington5161
@joshuahetherington5161 День назад
Stephen has said that they want to live and die by the subscription numbers. For multiple reasons, it incentivizes Intrepid studio employees to keep working well and brings in consistent revenue for the company. Box prices and P2W have to capitalize on FOMO to ensure they get enough money at the launch of things. I'm a software dev myself and echo your point about server costs. There are more cost-effective solutions in cloud platforms like AWS / GCP that can manage the tracking they're talking about, e.g. "serverless applications", "batch processes", "Lambdas", etc. Your point about reducing necessary logging is appropriate for an active micro-service running within a VPC but the other options I've listed can take another approach. Writing to a file instead of having to preserve logs, then those files can be inspected/automated to look for keywords that get forwarded to a GM, etc. Lots of ways to implement this cost effectively. It comes down to the desire from the company about how much priority they want to place on this. From the video it appears that they are placing great stock in tackling this right from the off. All that aside and copium exhaled, I HOPE they do what they say they're going to do. So far they've been fairly consistent with delivering what they're saying, minus a few hiccups. Time will tell indeed.
@AurorJeffrey
@AurorJeffrey 2 дня назад
This is exceptionally hopeful. I’ll believe it when I see it. Every MMO company is anti-cheating before launch
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@AurorJeffrey the proof will be in the pudding. No other studio has made this much effort pre-launch to mitigate cheating and it’s worth mentioning, or making a video about…
@laffertyj55
@laffertyj55 2 дня назад
​They are havin a very difficult time finding an anticheat software engineer so I dont think you can say that. With that being said they are actively looking ​@@TheCopiumClinic
@NATASKAUPUS
@NATASKAUPUS День назад
Zero Tolerance is the only way.
@sumasaum
@sumasaum 8 часов назад
Gear being BOP stops the largest incentive to buy gold. I'm not sure what the work around would be for crafted gear but I'm sure there could be something.
@TheFuriousBrother
@TheFuriousBrother 2 дня назад
Thor mentioned. The goblin army is coming for you!
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
Bring em on!
@gio1000444
@gio1000444 2 дня назад
I like the idea where bann players before they go to the void get turned into a frog. Possibly a summon to the home town as a level 1 rat lol
@henrychurch6062
@henrychurch6062 2 дня назад
FF14 they put you in Jail. You'll log in, find yourself in a stone room with no ability to message other players or use any of your abilities. And you'll be informed why you were put there, and how long your stay will be.
@MrNutzorg
@MrNutzorg 2 дня назад
If you get rid of player to player trade and make it all through a marketplace that should be a good way to limit RMT. And at the same time take a page out of Last Epochs book. You can still trade between friends when you play often together an item drops let's u trade gear between friends.
@chaffy6446
@chaffy6446 День назад
I am interested in whether Intrepid can solve the long-standing war. It would be interesting if you could land an interview with someone on the security side of Intrepid to do a deeper dive.
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic День назад
@@chaffy6446 two weeks ago I submitted a proposal to Margaret to interview some Intrepid staff, but no response still.
@OliverE-Deed
@OliverE-Deed 2 дня назад
you make good vids, keep it up 👍
@rct6518
@rct6518 2 дня назад
I hope they can figure it out and pull it off. This was a major factor for me losing alot of gameplay/passion for WoW back in the day. It simply ruins most MMORPGS and nothing will stop people/regions from attempting to make $$$ exploiting anything they can.
@ZapatosVibes
@ZapatosVibes 2 дня назад
Hell yeah brother
@gregoryanderson5188
@gregoryanderson5188 2 дня назад
day by day, the more I see about AoC the more I wish I could travel forward in time to its release lol
@dnothing23
@dnothing23 2 дня назад
Im right there with ya! Im trying to get some bills paid off so i can maybe build a new rig before this game drops, so i can run max settings. On top of graphics looki g phenomenal, the entire games mechanics seem to be coming together amazingly and my gawd damn it looks so effing good!
@captnsnacks2606
@captnsnacks2606 2 дня назад
Bro we are less than 4 weeks away
@BirthrightGaming
@BirthrightGaming 2 дня назад
Dude I was just thinking of that quote at the start of the video seconds before opening this video The copium has us in some temporal state of synchronicity, it seems 🤔
@RitchieSH
@RitchieSH 2 дня назад
is this the return of the beard?
@isth3reno1else
@isth3reno1else 2 дня назад
Risk reference = auto like
@Penumbra-AoC
@Penumbra-AoC 2 дня назад
Doc Vid = auto like
@squatchbigfoot8577
@squatchbigfoot8577 2 дня назад
This video is pure gold! Peon beating ppl up, Narc, and RL art money laundering. They really need to crack down on this RMT, along with Botting. You can't just say kill the bits as that will corrupt you, and we all know what happens to peeps who are corrupt lol. Great video Doc,!
@squatchbigfoot8577
@squatchbigfoot8577 2 дня назад
Bots, not bits
@AchillesPlayzGG
@AchillesPlayzGG 2 дня назад
Great content friend!
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@AchillesPlayzGG thanks amigo!
@mazmundie
@mazmundie 2 дня назад
Solid video, these dogs ruin the game. Active GM's would be such a big & welcome change
@MagicpipeMagnificent
@MagicpipeMagnificent 2 дня назад
Fuck Yah Burns! This is the video the world needed. Way to many nay sayers. Imagine waiting for the game 7-10 years then buy some gold and get BANNEDFORLIFEEEE!!
@recaplrg3552
@recaplrg3552 2 дня назад
They can prevent RMT by never releasing the game and keeping it in constant alpha stage. Guess thats what they do anyways
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@recaplrg3552 gottem
@BXEmberz0109
@BXEmberz0109 2 дня назад
Active GMs constantly monitoring the chat and participating in the game with other players enforcing the rules all the time, there will never be any issues with RMT and Bots. I hope they all get banned instantly so they have to BUY an unban or forever lose their accounts
@steelcitykings28
@steelcitykings28 2 дня назад
Does Steven say “twinking” for power levelers 💀😂😂😂😂😂
@henrychurch6062
@henrychurch6062 2 дня назад
Back in my Everquest days a twink was a character that was power-leveled to max level but had no gear because he was largely just afk while playing. As opposed to the more used term now where twinks are characters who stop leveling at certain points to become "the most op level 30" or "the most op level 40" build possible for PVP or farming. Different slang, same word.
@Pallywagz
@Pallywagz 2 дня назад
WTS MYTHIC FYRAKK & GUARANTEED MOUNT $2M
@RyveGenesis
@RyveGenesis 2 дня назад
Hopefully
@Wasthatrob
@Wasthatrob 2 дня назад
RMT is thanos level inevitable. What about the already established sellers with a good reputation? They'll still be operating and won't be a "free employee"
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@Wasthatrob lol that’s such a good line. I agree that it’s impossible to stop. No matter who the seller is, you’ll be able to watch their activity in the back end and track down their buyers.
@eyeballjellyforbreakfast
@eyeballjellyforbreakfast 2 дня назад
Why would you want to stop it? It kept EVE online alive for decades..
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@eyeballjellyforbreakfast CCP is the biggest RMTer out there.
@kevinmeyers9213
@kevinmeyers9213 2 дня назад
@@eyeballjellyforbreakfast No it needs to be crushed pay to win is a big reason many leave MMORPGs it’s a unfair advantage that needs permanent banning.
@dl3472
@dl3472 2 дня назад
@@kevinmeyers9213 no it doesnt, im ok with a game being RMT if its official. Check out a game called Entropia Universe, they do it officially so everyone is aware of it and agrees. Its the third party gold sellers that need to be permanently banned if anything.
@pix00l
@pix00l 2 дня назад
I love your beard bro
@IvanchuuuV
@IvanchuuuV 2 дня назад
Those defending RMT, final fantasy 14 has no RMT and it's one of the most succesful mmorpgs in the market (by far). So MAYBE it's not needed???
@ilttheDude
@ilttheDude 2 дня назад
good video dude
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@ilttheDude thanks amigo
@venivini5151
@venivini5151 2 дня назад
I'm not sure phd in economics can help. They should hired phd in mathematics and physics, they are the one running hedge funds and creating statistical models """predicting macro-economics decisions"""
@harrison298
@harrison298 День назад
lmao I love the MMGA hat
@TallTaleGael
@TallTaleGael 2 дня назад
People will be buying gold, as they always do. They won't be stopped, as they never are.
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@TallTaleGael it’s impossible to completely stop. Doesn’t mean they can’t stop it en masse however.
@Grimasaurus
@Grimasaurus 2 дня назад
Honestly, that soft tone does not match that beast in the ring...
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@Grimasaurus gotta keep em guessing.
@Kinselan
@Kinselan День назад
Your videos are probably the best in the community. But 'beware of the copium, it's "highly addictive"' seems to be missing a comedic element. It's "highly addictive" seems tooo.. obvious? I cringe when I hear it, because it lacks something. It's like saying 'don't stare at the sun, it's **very bright**' ... ??? Am I the only one who feels this way? Anyway I super support you and your content. This is not hate, but love.
@Srixun
@Srixun 2 дня назад
Oh no. Are we disagreeing for once? :P great video per usual. :) Edit: Elaboration. Gold/cash is just a diff gameplay loop. if people cant catch up with gold and it hinders them, skill issue. its part of the loop. bad game dev is making gold so heavy handed in a game. So Steven is wrong here. Auction House Goldsell tracking is like 1 of maybe 50 ways people RMT. 1. You buy gold on website, they trade you items worth the total, you sell, have gold. 2. Join guild, they mask by giving all the player in said guild a ton of gold, they give it back, then the buyer gives back then gets it returned. creating a smokescreen. 3. Drop offs. invite ot guild or party, put items/gold in chest or box, buyer picks up. no trade happens. there are a ton of ways to RMT and unfortunatley Intrepid has answered some, but has the wrong outlook on a couple points. Powerleveling, Spot on. But... What if a guild is powerleveling a new player vs a gold buyer? how do you differentiate? very difficult. Where RMT will happen most is Large Nodes, or Econ nodes, or Guild Leaders with tax money to RMT. I still stand by the idea of Banning gold buyers, but a different kind of honeypot. intrepid buying gold and tracking up the trade chain to find the head honchos and wiping the account and publicly shaming them. "John Doe of AOCGoldFarmers.com has been hacked, we are now tracking you" that name is gone and tainted now. its not perfect but its better. What they should ABSOLUTLEY NOT do, is have thie rown in game gold sales mechanic. Like wow tokens or PLEX in eve. It will only make the black market larger.
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@Srixun I’m still waiting to read where you disagreed haha. Thanks for the response! It’ll be impossible to stop all RMTing, but making it harder/feared is a step in the right direction. Hope you’re doing well brotha!
@Srixun
@Srixun 2 дня назад
@@TheCopiumClinic Ok fair. Lol. I was doing some Arenas in T&L, Gotta smoke some fools in PvP. But if we agree. then huzzah! :P
@ShonenVx
@ShonenVx 2 дня назад
Im in a guild where we want to help smaller guilds Or players do raids or harder content. And help bigger guilds do stuff like caravan runs. But the premise is that they would need to „buy“ our service or at least pay it in some kind of way. In the guild I’m in we are also planing to hunt down corrupted players so they can’t reek havoc around the map. Would that „buying our service“ count as gold trading ?
@ztemper5620
@ztemper5620 2 дня назад
Paying you in game currency for your services is encouraged. Cashapping you 10 dollars - straight to jail.
@ShonenVx
@ShonenVx 2 дня назад
Nice thank you 👍🏻 good to know
@ricxgla8654
@ricxgla8654 2 дня назад
But there is a chance to sell whole accounts? Then its easy to „sell“ gold?
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@ricxgla8654 the accounts need gold in order to be mules, if they’re getting gold from the RMT accounts, they’ll get flagged. For solo dudes who wanna sell their accounts, you’re right, nothing to stop that. It’s also not as big of a deal though if some people quitting the game sell their accounts. Great point! If I ever make a follow-up to this video I’ll talk about that.
@Fatereborn
@Fatereborn 2 дня назад
Eh , I think the otherside of people are not going to realize that your going to lose a lot of players because they won’t be competitive with Degen problem. So might widen that gap
@BigQuadsOnCampus
@BigQuadsOnCampus 2 дня назад
@darkwalker134
@darkwalker134 2 дня назад
LazyPeon dont know shit about bdo beside market it seems, while market limits rmt people who would rmt instead hire booster to farm gold 24/7 and they have no penalty on account sharing...
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@darkwalker134 yeah sharing accounts is bad, but it’s only at 1x speed so it’s not as bad as other forms.
@smurf7665
@smurf7665 2 дня назад
Sounds great Hope they stick to that. Rmts has ruined every pvp mmo ever made. I'm hopeful but realistic with my expectations.
@veil1792
@veil1792 2 дня назад
**not Meth*
@vadim-zuev
@vadim-zuev День назад
Is this my first comment here? I believe so... discovered your channel recently, first of all kudos to you for the good content, greetings from Germany. To be completely honest, I have mixed feelings about this. You don't need to tell me why RMT is bad, the point I'm talking about is way more subjective and egoistic 😁 Around 2008, I used to live in Lineage 2, putting in 12h+ shifts, playing in top clans, holding castles and pwning left and right. IRL, I was indeed single and broke AF. Fast-forward to today (waiting for Ashes since around 2019), I have a decent full-time job in software engineering, a family, do a little freelance as a side hustle, and I'm also coding a little Ashes-related hobby project as a way to combine upskilling / learning new stuff with my firm belief in Intrepid and the game. What I don't have much of is spare time. So it does indeed sound tempting to support those SEA / Latin American / African folks who farm MMO gold for a living with a grand or two and cut some corners. On the flip side, I know that I'm in for the long run, I have no expectations to be "the pwn3r" again and I'm also fully aware of the implications of widespread RMTing in an MMO. But maan, does this corner-cutting sound tempting 😂Anyone else willing to admit the same? ;)
@TawhidStudio
@TawhidStudio День назад
This game is gonna come out in 10 years
@chew1511
@chew1511 2 дня назад
So you're entrapping
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@chew1511 There’s a reason why it’s illegal IRL, it works.
@chew1511
@chew1511 2 дня назад
@@TheCopiumClinic It's illegal because of how immorally corrupt it is. Now are these "fake" gold selling sites set up by the developer going to keep the money from the transactions of gold buyers? Sounds more like a scheme than a deterrent.
@corvox2010
@corvox2010 16 часов назад
In wow you just pay the guild leader for the raid gear lol
@laffertyj55
@laffertyj55 2 дня назад
There will be soooo much RMT in this game. The fact that everything is unbound(besides glint) makes it obvious.
@Penumbra-AoC
@Penumbra-AoC 2 дня назад
Thanks for the Copium
@Azhrei776
@Azhrei776 2 дня назад
Yes! More Copium!
@ainzooalgown9952
@ainzooalgown9952 2 часа назад
250 hours to level? forever? it takes a year to get one level in some of the grindy MMOs 250 is nothing and won't dissuade gold sellers OR buyers especially when the latter can buy entire accounts
@eyeballjellyforbreakfast
@eyeballjellyforbreakfast 2 дня назад
RMT is great. Allowing it would keep the economy alive for decades. Banning it will do nothing.
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 2 дня назад
@@eyeballjellyforbreakfastan MMO with RMT isn’t special. Every MMO either sells gold directly or indirectly by not enforcing the rules. If you like RMT so much, you should keep playing Eve.
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