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ASICS Magic Speed 3 vs. 4 | Should I Upgrade? 

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@Ason426
@Ason426 26 дней назад
Seems like the magic speed 4 is like a training companion to the sky/ edge paris similar to what saucony is doing with the endorphin speed 4 and pro 4. One big difference between the magic speed 4 and super blast will be price, with the magic speed coming in much cheaper, but the superblast is also over 40mm of stack using ascics top race foam, without the carbon plate. So although the super blast and magic speed 4 may overlap in terms of the types of runs they can do, they go about it in different ways and will probably have a different feel.
@tomzhao7592
@tomzhao7592 24 дня назад
Magic speed 3 is more like a training companion rather than Masic speed 4. Another question is why I don't choose Novablast 3/4 for my long run and easy run ?
@TolunayOrkun
@TolunayOrkun 23 дня назад
I think FF Turbo and FF Turbo+ are very similar in feeling and energy return but the difference is largely in the weight. FF Turbo+ is a lighter foam. I think the differentiation between the shoes will be on weight and plate. Superblast being a wider platform will be more suitable for a lot of people who have stability issues with narrow platforms.
@carstech2685
@carstech2685 26 дней назад
I absolutely love my magic speed 3 and I've already put nearly 200 mi on them and they are still going strong. One of my favorite shoes to consistently train in. I love that it has an actual lower stack height. I do have other Max cushion shoes including the super blast. If I wanted a more personal training I go to that shoe. It feels like they kind of went the wrong direction with the magic speed 4 by giving it a much higher stack height, I feel like it's a shoe that should have been left at a low stack height and maybe work on the upper. It just doesn't seem as exciting. It seems like it sits right next to the super blast just with a plate
@edwinduisburg8138
@edwinduisburg8138 26 дней назад
In short, they took discount Takumi Sen and turned into chunky Boston. I'm wondering why Asics don't have any competitive offering for short distance/tempo shoes. Adidas got the Takumi Sen, Nike got the Streakfly, Saucony got the Sinister, New Balance got the Pacer. Most of these shoes have full length premium foam to boost the performance and Asics completely out of the picture unless they are coming up with a brand new running shoe.
@rossfripp4503
@rossfripp4503 26 дней назад
Yep, agree. Although perhaps it's not a big enough market for them to be interested. I usually use a full carbon racer for my interval sessions these days.
@berthein5476
@berthein5476 26 дней назад
They have. Its callrd thr hyperspeed. Brilliant 5k shoe.
@teguhsuryadi5387
@teguhsuryadi5387 26 дней назад
Tarther series is the OG Takumi sen of ASICS. Too bad it is not popular as the current trend is chonky supersized shoes
@davidrosenthal5795
@davidrosenthal5795 26 дней назад
Cause they are slower
@edwinduisburg8138
@edwinduisburg8138 26 дней назад
@@berthein5476 Hyperspeed not even in the same league with those shoes since it doesn't offer anything. It's heavily outclassed by Adizero Adios series and maybe on par with SL2.
@adamh3246
@adamh3246 25 дней назад
Sounds like the S4 which they only released in Japan. They marketed that as a marathon shoe for non elites. Which honestly sounds great to me
@TolunayOrkun
@TolunayOrkun 23 дня назад
From the few reviews I saw, S4 was not that high stack shoe. I think S4 stack was more around Magic Speed 3 levels.
@MidLifeRunner
@MidLifeRunner 26 дней назад
Thank you for this
@kuriosites
@kuriosites 26 дней назад
It looks like the MS4 is now playing a little more towards the SC Trainer, Neo Vista market, but still towards the faster end of that spectrum with the firmer ride. I'm still leaning towards the Neo Vista because of my personal use case but it looks like a nice shoe. I struggle with the geometry of the Superblast and this looks like a better fit for me though.
@jollyroger1009
@jollyroger1009 26 дней назад
Yes very different. I really loved the Magic Speed 3 for straight speedwork. The 4 sounds a bit less exciting perhaps.
@faridamin2410
@faridamin2410 24 дня назад
Asics are the best and injury free running shoes and ever since i converted to asics from Nike and Adidas i never sustained any injury. Love Asics ❤ and can't wait to get the Magic 4
@PatrickAllison
@PatrickAllison 26 дней назад
Conjecturing here but, its possible the MS4 kind of orphans the Superblast. The MS4 looks like a better training companion to the Metaspeed Paris shoes and it's cheaper.
@elliotendures
@elliotendures 26 дней назад
MS4 seems a bit lost to me. With the Novablast and Superblast, not sure there’s enough of a distinction for the shoe to have a place.
@justoutlaw6423
@justoutlaw6423 26 дней назад
Novablast easy day shoe, Superblast fast shoe, MS4 covers both to a degree so if you want one trainer MS4 can be one of the options.
@bluedew
@bluedew 26 дней назад
This Magic Speed 4 is closer to the S4 than the Magic Speed 3 actually. Maybe the S4 II will get Turbo+ foam to have some differentiation?
@kylestephens9593
@kylestephens9593 26 дней назад
Just a thought: if one's using (for example) the Magic Speed 3 in a rotation of 5+ pairs, the shoe will be more than fine in the year or so time period until the new version. I've got Magic Speed 2 and apart from little worn out of the heel they are like new. There is no need for new versions if your old shoe is like new, and the chances of this to be true are very high, unless you only run in this shoe or you run like 200miles/week or you're especially harsh on shoes - all of these cases are rare. Just my 2 cents.
@m.ch4rmaland3r10
@m.ch4rmaland3r10 26 дней назад
I love the magic speed3 as the racing flat speed. I had over 750km in it, and it still delivers a decent workout. I have the s4 and it is similar to the MS3 except foam, 3mm more stack, and better laces. I use the Ms3 for session and 5/10k. I like the s4 for 10k/HM. This fS4 is a totally different shoe. I really wish they had kept the racing flat style. Everything these days are max and as a consumer, i dont need them in all my shoe.
@hassanullah1997
@hassanullah1997 23 дня назад
When are these out in the UK?
@shanedorrian8192
@shanedorrian8192 26 дней назад
I’m happy using the Noosa Tri 14, just a great all round shoe find it better than the Magic Speeds to be honest, had the 2’s only used them for a couple of runs, it just felt awful didn’t even bother looking at the 3’s won’t be looking at the 4’s either
@tomzhao7592
@tomzhao7592 24 дня назад
Magic Speed series is dead. For easy run/LSD, choose Novablast 3/4. For fast workout, chosse Magic speed 3. For racing day, choose metaspeed.
@icejam-xq5hj
@icejam-xq5hj 26 дней назад
How does the MS4 compare to the Saucony Speed 4?
@Kaisersozze
@Kaisersozze 26 дней назад
4 looks like a completely different shoe, something between the sky/edge and superblast.
@blee3ee
@blee3ee 26 дней назад
which shoe for a mild calf strain?
@i.p2088
@i.p2088 26 дней назад
Great review, sizing question. I am TTS in the Metaspeed Sky Plus and Edge Plus but 1/2 down in the Superblast and Novablast. How does the Speed 4 fit?
@Laolu90
@Laolu90 26 дней назад
I’m 1/2 down in the Superblast and Novablast 4, too. I actually feel I could have gone down 1/2 in the Metaspeed Paris too, so I’m going to go down half a size in this as well.
@mrprateeknegi
@mrprateeknegi 25 дней назад
I am currently using Saucony endorphin Speed 4 and trying to add a shoe for rotation. Should I buy magic speed 4 or go for either Novablast 4/ Puma velocity nitro 3 ?
@Eirikkinserdal
@Eirikkinserdal 26 дней назад
A shoe will wear out. The question is should you buy the new one or a discounted ms3 once the one you have wear out 😅
@davidpearson6011
@davidpearson6011 22 дня назад
Is it a narrow width shoe like the 3
@tniktube
@tniktube 11 дней назад
I was wondering how firm does the midsole feel compared to let's say novablast 4?
@andro3859
@andro3859 21 день назад
Great review! How would you compare the magic speed 4s to the superblast? waiting on that shoe, but it seems like everything I want about it the speed 4s check off already?
@DoctorsofRunning
@DoctorsofRunning 21 день назад
Video coming today or tomorrow
@snowwalker9999
@snowwalker9999 26 дней назад
Asics had this mystery shoe called Superblast. Everybody including me thought it was overpriced. I think they now have a SC Trainer/Endorphine Speed 4/Boston 12 version of a running shoe also . I am looking forward to more reviews and comparisons.
@sofiamoschi1977
@sofiamoschi1977 26 дней назад
Do I need the magic speed 4 if i have (and love) the superblast? Thanks for the comparison!
@DoctorsofRunning
@DoctorsofRunning 26 дней назад
Honestly not sure. They are really similar, although the Superblast is more stable. Might be a bigger difference when release the Superblast 2
@dustynbutler4375
@dustynbutler4375 26 дней назад
@@DoctorsofRunning a comparison between the Superblast 1 and MS4 would be brilliant. With the Superblast 2 touted as being softer (remains to be seen) then version 1. I am desperate to find a shoe that runs similarly to the Superblast 1 which can no longer be found anywhere.
@michaelcaricoo
@michaelcaricoo 26 дней назад
While I am excited about the 4 and I'm planning on getting it, I can't help but wonder why? I get the embargo is still up so you can't say too much, but why have this and the superblast? Especially the 2 which is supposedly going to be softer?
@Laolu90
@Laolu90 26 дней назад
It’s basically a plated Superblast. Same foam, both illegal stack heights (if you care/don’t care about that), both versatile.
@michaelcaricoo
@michaelcaricoo 26 дней назад
@@Laolu90 It's not the same foam though, at least not in the same way. This only has FFTurbo (last gen) under the forefoot and midfoot, and it's only an insert not the entire stack. Superblast has mostly FFturbo, soon to be Turbo+. The Magic Speed 4 is more like a beefed up, plated Novablast, or better example would be an Asics Boston 12 than it is a Superblast clone
@Fozzee.1970
@Fozzee.1970 26 дней назад
Magic Speed will be nothing like a plated Novablast! ​@@michaelcaricoo
@cripistipiapan1
@cripistipiapan1 18 дней назад
what is the size? I am 9, for example the cumulus, could I buy the same size?
@itsahardmuttlife9263
@itsahardmuttlife9263 26 дней назад
Got it! So what you’re saying is ASICS f’d it up? 😂
@davidpatrickgreen5319
@davidpatrickgreen5319 22 дня назад
It looks like the superblast
@wayned0287
@wayned0287 26 дней назад
The MS3 looked good, but I got a discounted Edge v1 for fast workouts. I rotate with Streakfly and Hyperion tempo for track & fast workouts. The MS4 looks like a shoe I just don’t want or need.
@Shipwreckruns
@Shipwreckruns 26 дней назад
Very confused. Is this a budget superblast? Why would they release this just before the SB2?
@DoctorsofRunning
@DoctorsofRunning 26 дней назад
I have the same question. Might do a comparison. -Matt
@Shipwreckruns
@Shipwreckruns 26 дней назад
@@DoctorsofRunning I just don’t know its role. The 3 was up temp, this seems to try to join the niche of several other ASICS shoes. The only difference is the plate. Getting Kinvara Pro vibes
@femaciel
@femaciel 26 дней назад
Why should one pick MS4 over Superblast 2 this year? Seems too much overlap for me
@i.p2088
@i.p2088 26 дней назад
I was thinking the same thing..
@Ason426
@Ason426 26 дней назад
Think of the magic speed 4 like a competitor to the Saucony speed 4. The superblast is a different style of shoe probably more comparable to ultra max cushion super trainers. The superblast will also be much more expensive.
@Laolu90
@Laolu90 26 дней назад
My guess is because the Superblast 2 with only FFTurbo+ without a plate will be too soft for some runners. I know running with the Metaspeed Paris FFTurbo+ does get very soft once broken in, but the firm plate stabilizes it somewhat. But the Superblast doesn’t have a plate so that’s where this comes in. Of course they could have given this FFTurbo+ but then why would anyone buy the Metaspeed Paris, so they held back. The MS4 is basically a plated Superblast, which sounds pretty cool.
@DoctorsofRunning
@DoctorsofRunning 26 дней назад
Have not tried the Superblast 2. Hoping as mentioned it is FF Turbo+ but we’ll have to see!! -Matt
@femaciel
@femaciel 26 дней назад
@@Ason426 more like an Asics Magic Boston 12 😅
@mazanek198585
@mazanek198585 23 дня назад
Endorphin pro 4 or magic speed 4 ??
@johnsonch7292
@johnsonch7292 23 дня назад
great comparison i wish Doctors of Running would still look at here and respond to you
@tombola4046
@tombola4046 15 часов назад
Then ASICS drop the Superblast 2 and once again Magic Speed gets pushed aside
@leader0419
@leader0419 26 дней назад
ASICS Magic Speed 4 = ASICS S4 ?
@DoctorsofRunning
@DoctorsofRunning 26 дней назад
Maybe?
@samuelhaylock1803
@samuelhaylock1803 26 дней назад
Lets jut be honest, they ruined it.
@PetiteBacon
@PetiteBacon 26 дней назад
Hosics bondi X speed 4 lol
@michealGRuns
@michealGRuns 26 дней назад
Basically they took a somewhat decent shoe and ruined it
@ridhaafakier3625
@ridhaafakier3625 6 дней назад
you need to speak more clearly and slower
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