I have both of these shoes and they consumed most of my miles this fall and winter. The NB3 was my daily trainer and mile eater. The Speed3 was my tempo/speed day shoe. Great one two punch.
Great comparison, I have both also and feel that the Novablast 3 TR is great for fall and winter training into the spring, with it slightly better grip. With that said the when I’m getting ready for my run and know I’ll be doing mixed efforts easy w/some tempo mixed in I find the NB-3 is a better all around. Sacouny Speed is reserved for faster workouts with dry roads.
Love this comparison, these are my 2 current road shoes. I am aligned with your thoughts on both! The ES3 is more nimble and the upper fits my feet a bit better (esp in length). The NB3 is a bit long in length. Both shoes for me have gotten better the more miles I've put on them. I naturally run a quicker pace in the ES3.
I have wide feet. Had been searching for ages (without success) for a speedier shoe that accommodates a wider foot - the Speed 3 has solved that issue (even though not available in a 2e). Thought worth mentioning in case anyone reading is in a similar position
Thanks for the great conparison Andy!! Iam using Novablast 3 the same way you are. I prefer to put them in my moderate training like I did in my Novablast v1 (the best Novablast in my opinion). As speed 3, Iam not sure if, having Novablast 3, they would be useful in my training block, however they must be amazing daily trainer shoes. Greetings from Brazil!
Good unbiased review Andy... I've got the speed 1 and NB3's and agree with everything you've said... however just imagine the NB3 with a nylon plate .....I think it would knock the speed out of the park👍🏃♂️
Got the TR version at usd 105. Just get the TR version and call it a day. Don't worry about the wet grip / longevity of the outsole with the TR. Speed 3 for those who wants a faster shoe.
Big fan of this format Andy - it really contextualises the shoes you are reviewing which means we can make a more informed opinion when buying. I use NB 1080v11 as my everyday shoe and was thinking of replacing them with Novablast v3 if/when my current pair pack it in.
Great comparison, Andy. For a couple years now I've felt the Endorphin Speed is the most versatile shoe out there. I've used it for pretty much every type of run under the sun. When I got my first pair I was thinking workouts and long runs, but I was pleasantly surprised how much I liked them during easy and recovery days as well. And for those who don't want to fork over the money for a carbon plated shoe to race in, the Speed is a great option for racing as well. That being said, the Novablast is my go-to long run shoe. It's so comfortable and smooth with my running gait, a gem of a shoe for sure. If you have the means to afford both, they're my top 2 shoe recommendations.
The Novablast 3 is a beast! I've made my halfmarathon PR in that shoe and I ran a 20min 5k in it too! I don't care much for the speed, the rockered sole feels uncomfortable and unnatural to me.
Owned both Speed V1 and Speed V3. Saucony definitely created a true break between the Pro 3 and Speed 3. The Speed 3 plate really only provides lateral stability, and perhaps some rocker assistance. Still a great shoe, but no longer has the top end that the Speed 1 did, for me. The one major problem I have with the Speed 3 is the hardness of the heel pocket and potentially a smaller left foot. If I wear it on longer runs (20+ KM) I will get a blister on my left heel, which I can solve with a piece of KT tape, or bandaid, but it's annoying. So I now use it for middle distance HMP/MP interval days where I am putting in 10-15KM worth of work. If I have to go faster (Takumi Sen8) or longer (Tempo Next%). Like you, I have a decent stable of shoes for particular use cases. As mentioned by a few other people, these comparison videos have huge value, keep it up!
I also have issues with the top of the left heel counter rubbing me. I seem to not have it at quicker paces as much but have a similar experience as you. I have not had the issue as much lately and I think it could be due to only using the shoe for quicker paces.
@@saramims1592 It's really odd. I have worn ALOT of different shoes and I did experience it to a lesser extent in the Speed 1, where I wore a hole inside the heel counter after 550km. I've just chalked it up to something with the Speed shoe last that my left foot doesn't agree with. Annoying, but manageable for such a great shoe.
I have both. TR version of the NB. Probably the most comfortable shoe I've run it. I found that the speed 3 is closer to the Pro 3 than it is to the speed 2. The speed3 feels identical at tempo pace to the pro 3, it's only when you go to race speed you can feel the difference with that carbon plated pop.
😁i like the sliding scale, you incorporated into the videos. It suits my visual working brain. At the moment, there still is some inconsistency, which side the faster paces are. If i may make a suggestion, keep it in the way of this video, where your left hand was the side of the faster paces🤣( different from last video) i am all for the format of compare/contrast👍
Happy New Year Andy! Very interesting to even see these shoes being compared. I found the NovaBlast 2 to be a mushy pillow with no ability to move fast! Now I have hope for the NB3! But you know I love everything about the Endorphin line! Keep pushing my friend!
"I have actually done an easy shoe in this run" 😆Nice to give us a little smile there Andy!! You probably know that Kieran from Manvmiles ran the entire length of the Danube last summer, starting in the Speed 2 then he ran through 2 pairs of the Speed 3… quite a testament !! Thanks for another comparison, kinda miss them!! 🙋🏻♀️🙋🏻♀️
Great review! I have my first half marathon around 2h with Novablast 3 TR, such great balanced shoes! I'll keep using it as a daily/slow-run trainer. At the same time, I'm looking for new racing shoes for my future half marathon and my ultimate goal is sub 1:30-1:45. Should I buy Saucony Endorphin pro 3 or speed 3 will be enough for this goal?
in another words, Novablast get faster and the Endorphin Speed get slower in their 3rd version which made them closer to each other. I own both them and love both.
I bought the Speed 3 shoes for Christmas. I had to send them back. The winged plate pulled into my instep. I wish they did not turn the plate up at the sides
Hey Andy, great comparison video. Which would you say has the best traction in wet weather? I was also wondering if you might compare the endorphin pro 3 to the adios pro 3?
One option would be the Novablast 3 TR it has a bit more aggressive outsole, but not too much that interferes with its ride. I’m currently using the TR version for light trails, with that said both shoes are great. I just prefer the TR during winter or rainy wet days. Hope you have a great day…
Novablast 3 is terrible on the wet surface. Speed 3 is much better in the wet. But Asics has the Novablast 3 TR which is a better choice for wet weather.
Thanks Sam! Yes the comment below is a good one, I think the TR version of the novablast is the winner, but out for these two, the speed is better, novablast is a bit dicey in the wet 🫣
For me the speed is an all round better shoe but the NB3 is very close to it. When clocking up the miles it's better to have a shoe without a plate in. So I think the NB3 wins because u can get a better plated shoe than the speed. Can't get a better non plated recovery shoe than the NB
Last video: Do we need all these shoes? This video: when you want to go a little slower, get the Novablast. When you want to go a little faster, get the Speed. Plus, I’m using a different shoe for easy days. And a different shoe to work on my cadence. And obviously, a different shoe for racing. So I guess we DO need all these shoes! (I know I do 😊)
My issue with the Novablast 3 is that when running my feet slap the ground fast.. I had this also with the Vomero.. Like slapping your foot every step? I am a heel striker so probably the transition from the heel to the forefoot in to fast?
On sizing for both shoes, how much room do you leave at the end of the toe? I’m wearing a full size up from true measured foot size and have a thumbnail and a half extra room at the front of the shoe, but the sides are snug. Does this affect the push off and the sweet spot of the shoe? Im wondering if I need to go a half size down and deal with my outer foot and pinky toes jamming.
Never seen these shoes on discount in Canada yet :(. Novablast 3 just become available in Canada less than 2 months ago. Which one has a wider toe box?
Love the Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 just finished a hill sprint session in them and they were flying.. I will be doing easy days and long runs in them as well. Amazing shoe
I might be the only one saying this but the Novas (3) give me sheen splints when i try some speed in them..the tongue is the devil for me..i feel like something is missing where my curve of the foot is, which should have supported me..
I have both. Very similar in use but very different in feel. I find the Speed 3 excellent for my long runs being less bouncy and firm.. Speed 3 much softer and better energy return but the softness is annoying when I begin to slow down at the end of the long run. So for Tempo runs Speed 2 and 3 are amazing. Long runs Novablast 3 and Triumph 20. Both Novablast 3 and Speed 3 excellent for wide feet.
Hey i also have the speed 3 i like it a lot. Is the Triumph more leg gently? I normaly run around 4,15-4,45min/km? How much slower do you think is the Triumph 20vs the Speed 3?
@@woidmoasta4673 Triumph 20 not much slower in time but feels much slower running.. I find the Speed 3 unstable at slow speed being a heel striker. Triumph 20 is heavier so it will get you tired faster but its more comfortable running slowly in the Triumph 20. In the Triumph 20 less bounce and less feeling of the rocker doing the work for you.
Speed 3 all day. Better upper and fit, more bouncy and snappy midsole yet stable. Can use from easy to race day which same can't be said for Novablast 3.
@@TheFODRunner minimal wear, they just feel nothing like the first 100 miles. Most disappointing shoe of 2022 for me. Won’t get sucked into the hype again.