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Yeah that's what all those "psychos are just normal people" folks don't understand. Just because you're not a serial killer doesn't mean you're not dangerous. These people will engage in deplorable practices, manipulation, psychological abuse and will ruin people's lives for the hell of it.
Psychopath says "I don't consider myself dangerous" and then goes on to describe a gray rage where they are going to correct someone who feels too safe.
What she is feeling is rage,emotion to psychopath is foreign so when she talks about "not making a decision yourself" it is literaly that, Rage embodies her and she isn't her,now body is controled by emotion rather than logical thinking which is strange to them and if it's strong enough then it will take over.. And i think most of the time that "lack of authority" is at fault for making them burst out to violence,because mistakes of other people do not bother them,it's insignificant to them..But thinking you can control them and their actions is infuriating to them because they already do not care about social norms so hyarchy dosen't apply to them...
she also said she feels like she has no control over herself for up to an hour at a time and during that period she just wants to harm someone else hahahah
And that's one of a huge reasons why our society is more screwed up than it could have been. I mean, I've heard a lot of them are at the very top positions
@@Polina-ji4fe most of them for sure. And by the way once I met a psychopath matching the stereotypes and it took years before I recovered from the experience of getting to know him. He was manipulative, tying to use my weaknesses against me for fun and acting like a monster wrapped in human skin. To me he was not even human. His sight was really unsettling and to this day he is still free to harm people and do his psychopath things. Anyway, ther are more degrees of psychopathy, some are bordering normality but that person to me didn't even deserve to live.
@@Polina-ji4fe if you don't notice that's because probably they are normal enough that they hide it.. Some of them have nothing good in them and are enjoyi harming other people.
Humans can also feel off presence. Humans at the end if the day are animals. It’s not always a poser thing for people to be uncomfortable l. She presents in unsettling ways throughout her various interviews.
Her lack of scale in a normal person's response to anger, etc., is one of the biggest obstacles my brother (a psychopath) has. The difference is violence isn't his first choice because he just doesn't care, though he has no issue engaging in it. He just goes way overboard when he does.
> Her lack of scale in a normal person's response to anger, etc., is one of the biggest obstacles my brother (a psychopath) has. What do you mean by "lack of scale" relating to emotion? For example "he took my toy" so a typical child might yell both broth might hit or end the friendship?
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Not necessarily. grey rage+severe trauma and humiliation+effects of poverty+miseducation= a real issue. Erase the last three (which would have been THE JOB for the psych-trias to accomplish in the past 150 years or so) and you have fairly controllable issues. Also unlikely you'd have so many serial killers run around.
In social science research, the rates of psychopathy among CEOs and corporate upper management is about the same as the rates of psychopathy among prisoners. This tells one a lot about our society of corporate capitalism built on extremes of high inequality, dominance hierarchies, social Darwinism, and hyper-individualism. One wonders what an actual functioning free market would look like that wasn't owned, controlled, and ruled by psychopaths, other dark personalities (narcissists, Machiavellians, sadists), and social dominators.
They seem to have an element of controlling other people - especially those who are at a higher level. Psychosis is also more common in men and these professions are male dominated at least at higher level. I found the inclusion of clergy rather disturbing! Least likely professions for psychopaths: 1. Care aide 2. Nurse 3. Therapist 4. Craftsperson 5. Beautician/Stylist 6. Charity worker 7. Teacher 8. Creative artist 9. Doctor 10. Accountant… Quite a few female dominated jobs @@Trainrhys
this is total conjecture but it feels like the reason her smile is so unsettling is because she's smiling for herself and only herself. she isn't smiling to connect, but more than anything she isn't smiling to communicate. it's just muscles moving.
Okay, but if I as a neurotypical smiled at my screen because I came across a witty pun or thought about something that brings me joy, would that be the same thing? Because then I’m not really communicating with anyone either, right? And what about smiling at an article that leaves you confused? You’re not really smiling at the author of the article but also at and for yourself, right? I dunno, just thoughts.
@@curuvari2247 Right, I feel like if she was talking about some gore movie in this way and we didn't know she was a psychopath beforehand, no one would notice her supposedly 'psychopathic' smile or pull apart any sort of gestures she is doing. I think it's just people's cognitive bias kicking in for the most part.
@curuvari2247 They never mentioned smiling at an article. You're projecting your experience on the video and the OP of this comment when your comment actually has nothing to do with what they are talking about on the video.
@@elizabethsedai854 I meant that if I read an article, I’d also be smiling to and for myself, just like OP said the woman were only smiling to and for herself. And I was wondering if that would make me look equally unsettling to an observer then. Does that make sense? Otherwise, could you please elaborate on your comment as to how I am projecting? /gen
Kinda scary how even rage for a psycopath sounds more methodical than rage for a typical person. The way she emphasizes that when grey-raging she thinks something needs "correcting", whereas a typical person might think something needs to be destroyed or won't even think at all.
And they are very efficient in such harm outrage situations, for example I got high pressure, slight tremor in body, red face, etc all in one, mom stay still, slight smile, like boss in vacation relaxed area talking to slave, calm voice "why so nervous reaction, you can get insult, big deal that i thow out that device, your mom was wrong (she never ever directly apologize btw, always - your parents such a shame - or -your mom was wrong), I cannot know all that your electronic things purpose". I think she have some joy to turn ppl in such mode, like well done complex job. Some scene preparations, proper phrases, precision timings.
Reminds me of the brilliant cinematic dialog in the all-red restroom in "The Shining", when Delbert Grady finally admits to Mr Torrence to have recognized the need to "correct" his wife and daughters, in a very violent manner, indeed.
For people who find it interesting or telling that she chose law as her profession: research shows that sociopaths and psychopaths gravitate to careers in 1. the police 2. medicine 3. law in that order.
medicine is kind of a scary one, but i guess it makes sense because if someone gets too emotional over people being hurt, they wouldn't last long in healthcare where they have to endure people dying and being hurt all of the time. but it can also explain some narcissistic doctors who aren't willing to actually listen to their patients
The way she tells stories is a perfect demonstration of her lacking empathy. She is dissociated from the emotional experience that her actions inspire in other people, and doesn't consider those people in her decision-making - she is wholly self-interested, which is why it can be great (for a time) to emotionally enmesh with someone like this. They can 'set us free' from all worry until we see the reality of who they are. Humans are insanely complicated.
Well said. I would make one minor qualification to what you said though. I wouldn't recommend becoming emotionally enmeshed with someone like this, even for a little bit. There is something compelling and alluring about a person who glides though life with the confidence and amorality of a great white shark. You might even envy someone like that. But psychopaths have the same sense of reciprocity in relationships as sharks do.
Humans are NOT complicated. This is why we understand human beings. The universe appears to be unknowing and a mystery. The ocean depths are still left unexplored, but humans??? No, my lady, they are absolutely not complicated. The average human is innately driven by selfish desires. It starts from birth, and they learn to adjust these impulses through interaction with their community. Empathy can be taught and developed, and it is utterly, and absolutely necessary. A sociopath/psychopath, however, is the embodiment of evil and when you have truly met one, there is no question. There is no complication or rationalizing it more than it really is. (As a psychoanalyst, seek the renowned M. Scott Peck as a good jumping point for more clarity. He has had direct confrontations and interactions with them).
Did she say gray rage? Her explaining how sometimes she feels the impulse to threaten or hurt someone just because they have a false sense of their own personal safety sent chills down my spine. Unfortunately, it’s quite common for a person to grow cold, angry, and violent with enough pressure. However, being able to smile and calmly explain your impulsive rage which leads to violent emotions rather than rationalizing the action away or defending it, was scary.
Lol honestly it made a lot of sense to me because I grew up around men who were excessively violent (not to me but in their lives) and that is a clinical way of describing their behavior and feelings in a lot of interaction, it’s sort of dissecting the emotions behind the fraze “who the fuck do you think your talking to?” Or “remember who you talking to?” What’s funny about psychopaths is they’re born with personality traits other people have to pushed or conditioned to sometimes over the course of a lifetime.
@@edanridge3023 It's a neurodevelopmental disorder, that results from a complex interaction between genes and environment, so most if not all of them, are the result of their life experience+their genes.
No, you didn't understand what she said. She said that gray rage is triggered when someone has a false sense of authority AND a false sense of their own personal safety. It sounds this rage is a response to being challenged. She is not just going up to people and threatening them because they look weak.
Maybe you have a problem with listening to people. That's really not a good trait and it can get you into trouble. That is not what she said. What she said is people who have a false sense of their authority and personal safety and they try to assert authority over you. That would piss off every normal person I know.
It's very apparent she is honestly expressing her misunderstanding of how many humans think and feel. She does not understand empathy because one reason to not do something violent or hurtful that many people factor in is to not want someone else to feel the negative consequences that would come from a certain behavior or action. Not wanting another to experience that pain is a huge reason to not do something negative, regardless of being caught or worrying about judgements of others.
Imagine taking away the fear of judgment or consequences and keeping the emotions. Every human has the capacity to do harm, and many would if they could get away with it. I think it has little to do with empathy and more to do with consequences.
I think what she is trying to explain is that she might be damaging, but not necessarily with the intention to harm or will enjoy inflicting harm to others. As a former victim of abuse by different types of anti socials, you can clearly see that many will harm others because they think the other deserves it... it's their fault. But that is totally different than the aspect of sadism. Harming for the sake of harming, to relief themselves of boredom and taking deep joy, self validation by the harm they inflict and the physical/mental signs of inflicted harm, the reactions to the wounds inflicted. I suspect that luckily, only few anti socials are also sadist. Maybe there's a 'sadism spectrum'.
Sadism and psychopathy, along with narcissism and Machiavellianism, are all dark personality traits. When all four are included it's called the Dark Tetrad, but others prefer to limit it to the Dark Triad. The argument is sadism doesn't need to be included because it's a common feature of the other three. I don't know if all psychopaths would have a greater capacity for sadism. It is more common among them, but often it's just a potential, not necessarily actual behavior. The psychopath in this video likely doesn't at present exhibit sadism, if it might be easier for something to trigger it in her under the right conditions.
@@MarmaladeINFP lol, i am one of those sticking by the dark triad theory so to speak.. I wouldn't say that sadism is by definition a part of hybrid narcissism/psychopathy. I've known several people diagnosed as psychopath, or sociopath or narcissistic psychopath, borderline, narcissist. And a few who i don't know of but very strongly leaned towards such a disorder and of all those individuals (about 15 in total) was only one who would harm for the sake of joy/ self validation/ control. A few of the others could harm in a seemingly sadistic way but that's just how it felt. In retro spect i can see they didn't cause harm for the sake of joy or so. For example they might protect a warped view on an issue and gaslight you into thinking you are wrong because you are too sensitive about the issue.... And even others of that group were more or less parasitic/manipulative in their approach not as much 'abusive'. Of course i am no doctor, this is how i experienced these people over very long times.
@@alainvosselman9960 The intention or lack of intention in these types of people is completely irrelevant. The lack of subjectivity and any trace of interiority, as in the case of this woman, means that it does not even make sense to treat them as moral agents. They are simply broken objects that don't work as they should.
@@lucasrinaldi9909 It is relevent when you are trying to understand the clustery B type disorders. I learned about a classification system and in order to categorize one must differentiate between the various shapes and forms they come. I have experienced several people with a cluster b disorder and some who displayed many traits but i can't be sure. I learned this to better protect myself and it's becoming useful when looking at events like politics or so. Or people's behavior in general.
The thing about psychopaths part of the criteria is inappropriate anger . They are dangerous because they feel no guilt or shame or remorse. So literally they don’t feel bad about anything they do so it is more likely they will make choices that are dangerous for themselves and people around them. Even ones that don’t engage in physical violence do things that are harmful to others. Look at big CEO’s they will gut a company do mass layoffs and not feel a thing.
CEOs wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for Capitalism. Capitalisms whole end is profit. Blaming it all on psychopaths is just scapegoating. There are plenty of non-psychopathic CEOs who have gutted companies and just moved on with their lives. The difference is that non-psychopaths have a whole range of cognitive biases that help them rationalise what they do. Psychopaths seem to have less illusions about themselves.
No, Capitalisms whole 'thing' is the ability to have freely trade, which is just an analogy for freedom. Which is why it's synonymous with the the best societies that have ever existed (The West), and attempts to 'correct' it have resulted in some of the worst countries that have ever existed (North Korea, Soviet Union, Cambodia, Maoist China). Psychopaths will do well in any human hierarchy, simply because they have less factors to worry/think about. @@LambentIchor
@@Alexandros11 That's just the propaganda for capitalism. Are you trying to tell me the US is really free?! The reality of capitalism isn't just that capitalists accumulate 'stuff' as in assets. They capture power by using their wealth to have politicians make laws that favour them. This undermines democracy. There never has been 'free trade'. And this is used by capitalists as an excuse for when capitalism collapses. They say, 'If the markets were really free then this wouldn't happen. Austerity is how governments take money from the ordinary worker and use it to bail-out big business. The reality is socialism for the rich. Talking about 'freedom', what is this freedom? You think having a broad range of stuff to consume is freedom? You have to be an American.
@@LambentIchorNo capitalism is fine and ceos do these things as they need to, it’s the same as you feel sorry for a drug addict but you don’t help them as it’s there fault
@@LambentIchor If we were in a Socialist system the all the psychopaths would just become bureaucrats or commissars. If someone with power in a Socialist system wants to destroy your particular way of life you still don't have any recourse.
she smiles to soften her appearance. she’s manipulating us while we watch with that choreographed smile and constant references to being only 5’4”/non-threatening. though, i appreciate that she was willing to open up and give the world some insight.
I'm so glad you can notice people with aspd or psychopathy like us have to consciously make our facial expressions because they don't come naturally. If we are putting in the effort to smile there is a goal, doesn't mean it's a bad one but it's effort. You just gotta be smart
I actually went to middle school and HighSchool with this person. It was obvious that there was something …. different …. about her. I have sometimes wondered over the years what *exactly* her condition was …. now I know. I was not close to her. I cannot say I knew her well. We played on the same softball team a few times over the years. I remember her being mostly quiet. The only reason I recognized her is her jaw and her smile. The video seemed to randomly appear in my YT feed, and I saw her face, and was like “Is that …J*%?” This is the most chatty I have ever seen her. In my memory, she was very quiet.
Yea you definitely see how her manipulation comes out here she is manipulating her audience . Psychopaths have inappropriate rage so to say they aren’t violent is not true . Even ones that don’t commit physical violence often do acts that harm other cause they have no empathy everyone around them is literally a stepping stool
"I don't think psychopaths are predisposed to violence, though it is easier for us to be violent than regular people." Literally the textbook definition.
Some people are more violent than others, a small annoyance and they are hitting people. not everyones immediate reaction to a small annoyance is to hold up a fist.
@@shawnstephens1251because majority of the people are not psychopaths (around 2% of the population). But more than 20% of the killers have ASPD. What does it tell you?
What strikes me most about her is the complete lack of self-awareness. She keeps saying, "I don't do X" before describing doing exactly X. You have to remind yourself before taking this person at face value that she is a psychopath, and it seems like she's not even aware that she's being deceptive.
That concept of making people think they have a false authority over you is a concept thats honestly amazing how well she explained, and the way she landed the idea. I had a friend back in High School that I remember always talked me about how he managed precisely to blackmail his dad, having him warned because he found out some weed from my friend on his school bag; like I remember how he told me everything was pretty much planned and already had backup plans if that didnt work out, like I remember how he even explained me how that would ruin his relationship with his dad forever because of breaking into the concept of distort who has authority over who. He was such an inteligent dude, but also a very very weird guy, always was relaxed, never mad, he was always focused. I wonder what hes doing now lol
She's turning to the bookcase to hide a blemish on her right cheek , which could be a scar . Perhaps receiving violence is a greater than average risk for psychopaths ?
but like, that's what being violent is. not having those barriers to prevent you from acting on urges to be violent. yes, i completely buy that psychopaths don't have any stronger predisposition to violence, but that doesn't matter since they are still more likely to be violent because of the lack of barriers
Are you dangerous? "No. Maybe. To certain people. Not more than non-psychopaths though. Non-psychopaths are actually pretty dangerous." Lawyers, man... Then she talks about her would-be victims that she couldn't track down lol. Amazing.
I think the person’s “false sense of authority and safety” is referring to entitled complacency. Grey rage wouldn’t be sparked because someone simply feels “too safe.”
Most of the people interviewed by the "experts" on psychopathy were in prison so certain attributes are overemphasized in the literature. I've never harmed anyone and I certainly don't consider myself dangerous. I explain it like this, psychopaths are outcome-oriented. What would harming someone achieve? I'm not a sadist. And, I really don't want to go to jail. Likewise, why would I steal? There are less risky ways to get money (like working at a job that I'm good at, I enjoy, that pays well, and that isn't hard). Most psychopaths glide through life following the past of least resistance. The ones who are in jail usually have other disorders, have a different cost-benefit calculation, or less impulse control. The important thing is that we generally don't feel guilt about the things we do, which makes OUR calculation different from the calculation of a normal person.
The thing is, normal people don’t just obey the law because of the legal consequences. We consider the victim on the other side of these crimes, regardless of the legal consequences. It’s why laws are created. Ideally, they exist to protect people and their humanity first and foremost. Because there are people (like psycopaths) who don’t consider how their choices can negatively impact and harm other people. What would harming another person acheive? It would harm someone, that’s why you don’t do it. Not because you’ll get thrown in jail and not because it won’t acheive anything for you.
As a highly empathetic person myself, perhaps what someone would call an “empath” I don’t think empathy=goodness. There have been times where I have been very manipulative or overbearing to others, mostly when I was younger because of my high empathy, either by accident or on purpose, to sort of force them to feel better faster, because seeing someone in pain is too much for me sometimes. I am working on it now, and I do consider myself to be a good person. This is why I think ruling out people with ASPD as bad people is incorrect and damaging. My friends little sister has ASPD and she is not empathetic, but still good, and makes good choices simply because she knows it’s right. Empathy or lack thereof does not define whether or not someone is a good person, their actions and words do.
While an inherent lack of empathy does not make a person "bad" it is a major life obstacle. Life is filled with nuance and gray areas of moral or ethical decision making.
@@GlichyyI think you misunderstood my comment- I meant anti social personality disorder, not autism. ASPD stands for anti social personality disorder. ASD stands for the outdated label of autism spectrum disorder.
I do know what she's talking about with the rage, it is exactly happening in me as she's describing it, it's like a need to show every person if they're unaware of crossing social boundaries, it does feel really out of control and obsessional, like fulfilling my destiny. It is also very clear-headed, but it kinda tends to deconcentrate me from the social situation or my own social pleasures when it happens. And yet, I am not a psychopath, although I may have disturbed empathy, but it would mostly be caused by dissociation, and at times I do get out of this disconnection form my feelings, I no longer have some of these other problems that she's talking about on this channel too.
Gray rage basically is when psychopaths are hit by their narcissism, with the bonus fact that they won't feel guilt or shame for actually hurting you in contrast to simple narcissists. Great.
How is it narcissism? Wouldn't it be more related to a territorial/domination instinct? I am not a psychopath but I actually have experienced something similar to this. It feels very instinctual, like the instinct a social animal has to assert dominance over a lesser/weaker member of the group when they sense that that member is not acting in accordance with their strength and dominance capabilities. I've recognized the behavior in real life in chickens, dogs, and with humans. It's creepy to experience, because I'm philosophically very egalitarian.
ASPD and NPD may be in the same personality disorder cluster, and appear to be associated more closely than they are because of the Dark Triad concept, but having one doesn't automatically mean you have the other.
I spent time with a psychopath about a year ago and it went very badly. I really value that this channel is helping the world understand this condition better. I still have not figured out how to reconcile the bottomless moral repulsion as well as fear one experiences from a psychopath, with the realization that they are born this way and in a way it’s not their fault. From that perspective hating them seems irrational; but it’s not clear what else is to be done. Avoid them? Friendship, trust, understanding with them is impossible. They only live to deceive. They don’t have the normal emotions or reward mechanisms other people have. They are never actually invested in the relationship as a friendship, they’re just calculating a way to use you. Thus, it is almost antithetical to try to empathize with a psychopath; empathy implies a degree of acknowledgment of someone’s inner humanity; it implies you recognize the fundamental good in someone. But there is none in psychopaths. That was a hard lesson for me to learn.
For a smart person she has an insane amount of self serving bias. The empathy that non-psychopaths feel isn't some inherent limitation, it's part of (arguably a prerequisite to) normal social functioning. The fact that this empathy can still break down in highly stressful or emotional situations which makes these people also prone to evil behavior does not somehow validate the psychopathic behavior patterns.
Wow. Incredible to hear and see someone that can trigger repulsion. That implies how human have survived as a grouped species. We can recognize the odd one in a fundamental level.
@:55 This is the classic manipulative rhetoric that you will hear from a psychopath/sociopath. "I am just like you" or "We no different from you." "Sociopaths are no different from other people" etc, etc or some variation on this theme.
She seems very likable to me. I have a friend who also has psychopathy and whom I like. He likes me too, and we're good friends, despite his lack of empathy. His limitations would make other people lonely but his lack of empathy saves him from that, and he is happy. Just different, and that's ok.
@@ChrisGossTheBoss Thanks! He's been a good friend, and at times a close friend, for most of my life. I'm pretty sure that he just likes and finds me interesting, and someone he can talk with more openly about how he sees and feels (or doesn't feel) others.
She literally talked about trying to kill a baby opossum. Rewatch the series. Also, your "friend" doesn't care about you if he really is a psychopath. You make no sense unless you too are a psychopath. No offense... That's what the other person in the comment above implied. You miss interpreted that which is concerning too🤔
@@EyesOfCalm Trying to kill a baby opossum disturbs me - but, then again, I haven't met anyone who, when you get to know them properly, hasn't disturbed me in some way or other. Friendships and other relationships don't have to be symmetric: what I feel for a friend doesn't need to be reciprocated in exactly the same way; it usually isn't. It's a matter of treating people on terms that suit both them and yourself. My friend is indeed a true friend, for whom I feel empathy and warmth towards and who, though he can't empathise with my feelings that well (if at all), is still loyal and full of goodwill towards me. He just has a few good friends like that, in my case three decades worth of friendship, and he's proved that he is reliable whenever I might need help, just as I am for him. (Slightl caveat: he's more of a high-functioning sociopath than psychopath.) More generally, most of my friends and family are neuro-divergent at least one way or the other, and you just have to treat everyone individually, sometimes having to manage the relationship and keep a certain distance or stick to certain safe/comfortable modes of interaction with each other. I've only met a few actually evil people; nearly everyone else lives up (or down) to expectations.
A big part of understanding psychopaths is understanding that you can’t appeal to their emotions. They do not understand emotions on the same level that most people do. Appeal to their logic, be genuine and don’t show fear. If you do; be honest. Not understanding something is what bothers a psychopath more than anything else. Logic over emotion
According to her, she is not. She had a friend who told her she should be tested for an antisocial personality disorder. She couldn't hold down a job or have relationships with people for longer than 3 years. The tests identified her as having psychopathy which led her to getting a therapist. That work helped her moderate her interactions with people and it improved her relationship with her family probably because it gave them the information they needed to understand that she has a mental health issue.
0:21 It's funny how she says that psychopaths are not predisposed to violence more than others and explains how normal people would be just as violent it they had no guild, empathy and other psychopathic attributes. Yes lady if everyone was a psychopath, everyone would be as prone to violence as one.
@Tobi-pn2xs You've just contradicted yourself. Everyone can perform violent acts under certain circumstances. Most don't because they don't want to be caught or they can control their impulses etc.
So what she's saying is that if a normal person has traits commonly associated with psychopathy, they have an increased risk of being more violent? Isn't that just another way of saying psychopaths are predisposed to violence?
I think she is saying that they don't have boundaries when engaging in violence. Most people who throw a punch in a fit of anger back off for fear of being hurt and they stop because they reach a level where they made their point known and going further could do permanent damage to the victim. My opinion is that females are much less likely to engage in violence than males are. She stated in an earlier interview that she has no interest in torturing or killing any creature. I relate it to people who think geniuses all become research scientists or phyiscists. The truth is that many of them become firefighters, ranchers, farmers, bartenders like all the rest of us do.
I think data showed that the most anti social boys, around 2 years old, showed primarily physical violence (kicking, biting, punching), and most of those things gets weeded out, because it's so on-the-nose. Girls tend to show reputation destroying behavior. Interestingly, when asked if she's dangerous, she talk about violence and not manipulation of someone else's reputation, which she earlier admitted was her modus operandi to the point she didn't know how to behave without doing it. For example, an anti social girl, my gf's niece is a sociopath, and she told everyone that her uncle (my gf's brother) beat her. The guy was wrecked. It got serious and he was facing serious consequences. It turned out she was lying. She was 13-14. It's extremely dangerous to be around. It's like my gf's brother is unarmed, and she's a snake he can't see. It's easily overlooked and subtle if you're not careful.
I just watched a separate clip of this same interview where she says that before she got therapy she never cared what people thought of her. She said that’s why high school was so easy for her. She also said that she does not feel guilt or remorse. But here, she’s saying that psychopaths feel all of these things like regular people. She is saying two opposite things.
I think she has a hard time explaining the things she was “taught to do” as a kid, growing up in a hippie environment, versus the absolute range of what her response could be in any particular situation. I think it’s not helpful to say “well she says she doesn’t have empathy, then she says she has empathy!” When she’s likely trying to relay “I can only have empathy in hindsight, which I learned to do through my non-violent childhood, and through seeking treatment as an adult.” She also laughs at some of the things she does, because she sees how silly or weird her actions were compared to what society considers normal. She’s laughing at her self because that’s what she would do to someone else. She can’t trigger herself, because she doesn’t see herself as a threat, and doesn’t care. We’re forgetting that most psychopaths are raised along side us, and can learn how to “act” in public, and can learn to reduce their frustration and anger when disciplined because they also can learn pattern recognition. E.g. If I do these things and people get mad every time, and punish me, I will be angry and frustrated, so I will no longer do that.
I think that a deep work of self-awareness can balance out serious conditions, even one like this. Probably knowing the consequences of his actions in a practical sense balances his lack of empathy
They will never beable to feel guilt , remorse or empathy . The best that can be done is they get more self awareness to stop old patterns. However they will never feel empathy .
We understand consequences, it's what stops us from doing many things. It's just that things that don't rely on a physical or otherwise important asset in their punishment do not cross our minds, for instance we have no moral qualms about taking someone's money, but legal concerns often prevent us from doing so.
@@theeguy9022I honestly think that every human could and many likely would commit horrendous acts if there were no consequences. I personally feel an overly emotional person is more dangerous. It reminds me of the old argument of how someone can be morally sound if they do not believe in God.
I understand that they have a brain problem that inhibits them from feeling empathy. What I would like to know is how reason factors into their handicap. So for example, you may not naturally empathize with another human being, but you can reason that they have similar experiences to your own, and that if you want a certain kind of consideration from others, it would make sense to give back in kind.
Maybe that is exactly the affective empathy bit that is missing? I assume that you can also on a cognitive level understand that stuff like providing comfort, kindness, basic decency is sort of transactional because you observed that social pattern over time - but it may require an extra step and more (constant) awareness? Our affective empathy could be what keeps many of us in check most of the time because we kind of automatically imagine how others would feel in certain situations. And we don’t want that for them. Like, I can imagine scratching out my abuser’s eyes on an abstract level for a few seconds but I’d never actually physically harm them if given the chance because I don’t want anyone to suffer; it doesn’t erase my own suffering, after all. Just creates more suffering within them and myself and the world. But that’s the putting-oneself-in-other-folks’-shoes part that I suppose is missing in folks with psychopathy and NPD (?) Maybe? Don’t know though.
I absolutely love the start of this video, the idea that psychopaths are no more violent as a group because a lot of us might be more violent if we thought we could get away with it. I'm not sure I buy it entirely but it's an interesting theory. It's gray rage that makes me think the theory has a hole in it, actually. Since non-psychopaths generally don't experience this phenomenon, and since it can increase the risk of violence, it'd stand to reason that with a higher appearance rate among psychopaths, this would be met with a commensurate rise in violence, or at least in likelihood of violence? I am not attempting to suggest that all or even most psychopaths are dangerous; I am quite sure that many will do no harm if there's no reason, and even those who do cause harm don't usually take any pleasure in doing it, they're simply not calculating for it at all.
I'm not a psychopath but I have definitely experienced something similar. a peer of mine had decided that because her random allotment of a crucial tool/workspace was assigned to her, she had authority over how it was used even after she had no need for it. when mine broke (not my fault) and needed maintenance, i got permission from her and our supervisor to use hers. i made special care to use it the way she wanted me to but glassware broke anyways. she tried to punish me for not following her instructions by preventing me using it (she had 0 authority). I was raging while "correcting" her.
I don't think psychopaths are dangerous at all as well. As long as you don't have anything, could attain anything or are in between them and anything they want.. It's very interesting to me that she, I think, actually believes that the only reason people in general aren't voilent is for fear of consequence. It's telling actually. For me it's very hard to believe that people don't have empathy, but that makes it clear as day. Very interesting, and informative..
Oddly, or not, I like her and I find her candour refreshing. I also wouldn't want to get on her bad side. Hollywood has demonised the psychopath, and yet I think secretly, people are jealous of her lack of empathetic feelings. She would make a good soldier or surgeon. She has a reasonable understanding of good and bad and stays within those boundaries. I could imagine many empaths wouldn't have the same control or rationality.
I feel like I have grey raged and I am nowhere near a psychopath. against people who think they can tell you what to do while theyre below you or on your level and attempt to rig positions of power against you, you can only respond by putting them in their place and letting them know that you will never accept that behaviour and that there are consequences to acting that way. granted, i am not violent; the consequences are always social in nature. edit/note: I still feel like myself but its almost like a video game where I just have to make the best choices to maximise my benefit until the situation is over. I have never failed to benefit from this.
I'm no psychopath, but I think the gray rage she is referring to bubbles up in a lot of regular folk too, especially over the reasons described. When somone who has no authority treats you with contempt, or humiliates you, or in some way tries to exert power over you, I think the common response is to "correct" them, as she puts it. It doesn't mean you will be violent (though you'll go there if they persist or physically threaten you), but you're so affronted by their presumptions it does trigger a kind of a rage response. This is not psychopathy, it is self defense. She's wrong on this one imo.
You don’t need to feel sorry because they don’t have an emotional value to it. Same thing when people commented that she seems full of herself because she said she’s smarter than 99% of her viewers or readers. There is just no emotional connotation to it
@@TheFriendlyPsychopathYou cannot get diagnosed with primary psychopathy, nor psychopathy for that matter. Primary psychopathy is not a diagnosis, its just the first sector of psychopathy which focuses on affect. While the sector 2 focuses on behavior which is caused by affect. You cannot be diagnosed with 1 sector of psychopathy. Secondly psychopathy is not a clinical diagnosis, it cannot be diagnosed and put in your medical records it is used in forensic psychiatry, and prison settings to assess excessively problematic repeated criminals.
I am very surprised at my reaction to this extremely powerful and honest video. I like this woman and would have no qualms in having her as a friend. This woman is extremely intelligent, rational, self aware, introspective, objective, open minded, conscientious, responsible, accountable, honest, direct, reasonable and understands she is different from others and most admirably she accepts the fact and truth about how she is different and actively has been in treatment to understand AND learn how to become a better human, person, employee, friend, daughter, etc… I am beyond grateful for this priceless education you’ve provided me with today. I know, my gratitude and appreciation means nothing to her but it does to me. And I am perfectly good with that.😎
I do find it surprising about the friendship part. If she can't feel empathy what makes people sure she'd even be a good friend? What makes you certain she'd care at all if she made you feel shit or cancel plans on you at the last minute? If she can't connect deeply how can she even form meaningful friendships? Wouldn't they all lack depth? She's never mentioned feeling any love in any of her videos.
Getting beat up isn't going to be the end of a psychopath, and if it is, the self preservation part comes when their entire being is truly threatened... In which case, they don't care about the death of said threat, even if they cause the death.
She explains it in another video that she can experience the adrenal "fight or flight" sensation in her body, she just doesn't experience it as fear. I imagine self preservation for her is a bit like playing a game - you try to win at monopoly, but you don't genuinely have that much emotional stake in the outcome
Psychopaths tend to have little sense of fear and anxiety about physical harm and death. It's because they are deficient in affective empathy. They usually don't feel strongly, in particularly not those kinds of emotions. They have a tendency to act without thinking about consequences, for themselves and others. That is precisely what makes them dangerous and so the harm they cause can be entirely unintentional. One psychopath talked about inviting his brother to visit a cave to collect bat poop. He didn't think to mention to his brother that he wanted to collect the bat poop because there was a disease there that is known to kill people. As a doctor, he was simply curious to study the infectious pathogen. It simply didn't concern him that it might kill both himself and his brother. But it's not like he had a death wish.
Self preservation only apllies to doing jail time for many years thats a big consequence that we try to avoid any other consequence is so little in comparison we really dont care
I think the “grey rage” she describes is a threat response to restriction of movement. When you’re playing life on God-mode, it would be satisfying to prove it to a smug NPC
It's weird seeing someone finally explaining what my autistic self has been trying to explain about people. I find it hard to understand psychopathic thinking and living even though I'm almost always right there with her, just slightly more aware of the surroundings. I don't ever do anything like steal or hurt someone, not because I can't but because it seems like too much work. You have to think 15 steps a head and the worst part is the shame of being caught. I'm not heartless, but I do think that more people who are criminals are everyday people who are simply terrible and evil human beings. But they come in all forms, though it is more known that psychopaths can fall into that category... I do think that I would be more scared of a pathological liar or someone who uses anger or hate to justify their actions. This lady may be in the minority of her label, but I find it healthy to see this as she isn't low functioning which I think most killer psychopaths are, she is high functioning enough that she understands herself and can express herself in a way that neurotypicals can comprehend. That is highly admirational.
Kinda limited view, youre just a normal person, and so is a criminal, they just had a harder life or early life background, morals are programmed and can still be overcome by how far one is willing to go to survive
@@apachehelicopter7625 Still, radically different to psychopathy, even sociopathy which is also an antisocial disorder is radically different to psychopathy. And is truly a serious mistake to even compare an autistic person with a psychopathic one. Should never been done, at all. Psychopathy is literally pure evil. Autism is affected nervous system that affects comunication and socialization, psychopathy is complete lack of empathy.
The difficulty of thinking multiple steps ahead for an autistic is caused by limited cognitive empathy. But a psychopaths deficiency is affective empathy, not cognitive empathy. It would take less effort for a psychopath, if they were motivated, to plan out an immoral course of action. And it's the psychopath's limited affective empathy that makes them potentially dangerous, if they ever do go down that path. The thing is that, like she explained, there is no particular reason most psychopaths would be generally inclined toward violence. It probably more has to do whether they grew up in violence, experienced it themselves, and had it modeled by others. Personally, as a general rule, I'd have more fear of those on the extreme end of Machiavellianism and narcissism, the other two of the Dark Triad traits.
Even when she says "that's my mistake" her lack of morals is apparent. Somebody getting angry over a political disagreement is their mistake. Continuing to talk is actually the right thing to do, unless you're proven wrong. But she seems to only understand the consequences stemming from that behavior. Not what's actually right or wrong. Wild stuff. What insight to have a psychopath who doesn't just lack empathy, but also doesn't concern herself with understanding others emotions. I don't mean to talk about her like an animal, but there is something so unusual about these responses.
She kinda makes her own rules, the world is her jungle. The world can be a harsh place female detachment could be practical, agreed?@@SignificantPartyGirl-fk5hq
I once worked with a psychopath, i identified her almost immediately and i was not surprised later when i learned of all the lies she told and the harm she tried to create. She ran away from her kid dumping him on her elderly father to another country with a lover.
"I don't think I'm dangerous" but also... "I will got to the enth degree to make sure you realise you have no authority and you're not safe"..... Ok........
No, it isn't. Maybe if you compared raw numbers that would be true - but only because there are simply more "normal" people, and psychopaths are about 1-3% of society. But if you consider how likely a given group is to be violent/commit crimes - psychopaths are HUGELY overrepresented.
Hi, Jamie! Long time since we played softball back in our little SoCal town. I have this sneaking suspicion that you sometimes had grey rage toward me …..
It's easy to say when you know that she's a psychopath. But is every person who fake smiles and isn't making emotional eye contact a psychopath? People making generalizations is pretty harmful to those who don't actually have a problem.
@@user-ol5bj4dm2v Your comment is accurate, I have psychopathy and I NEVER smile, even as a child, not in photos, I don't even find jokes funny.. I use to envy people who can show facial expressions and emotions, as a person I just can't fake things if it isn't real or intrinsic, so I'm stuck with this paralyzed face.
@@TheFriendlyPsychopath Where did you get the idea of being a psychopath?. You sound more like something else entirely is going on... something not at all related to psychopathy.
Disagree. It seems she smiles for a deeper reason. It appears she is explaining a hard truth that she knows will be met with disapproval or will be hard to swallow for some... But she's going to say it anyway. It's the same notable smile that you see when anticipation is involved. Though it seems she anticipates those things much more rapidly and stays the course anyway. I'd say this is straightforward and blunt, open and honest, and not manipulative. Though she has that potential and the capacity... I don't see it occuring during this conversation.