Asking Dorsetines if they know why their MP is so rich (it's the slave trade) 

A more accurate comparison would be: Your great grandparents made a lot of money from fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are banned and your great grandparents were compensated for their loss of property when the plants were seized by the government. Years later people say "your great grandparents contributed to the climate crisis and were bought off. You should give up your wealth"

​@@avisian8063 uh, no. That’s not correct. Kidnapping and forcing people to do the work you don’t want to or can’t do and profiting from the worst kinds of violence towards other humans (rape, murder, whipping, starvation, denying even the most basic human rights, etc.) is not the same as having a fossil fuel company in my grandparents’ time. For starters, my grandparents would not have been aware of the dangers of fossil fuels and climate change. We can’t pretend that Drax and other people involved in the slave trade did not know it was immoral - plenty of people wrote about and condemned slavery at the time, and the Drax family would never have been able to legally own white humans in the same way. Slavery was driven by a consuming desire for profit, and racism provided a convenient excuse. The British Empire (among others) was built on exploiting anyone and everyone who didn’t fit some narrow definition of worthiness, and even that definition was subject to change if anyone stood between the Empire and what they wanted. I believe people in charge of many fossil fuel companies are immoral for their business practices, their harm to the environment, their exploitation of native people and lands, their lying about the dangers of burning fossil fuels, their continuing efforts to spread misinformation, etc., and plenty of people today would agree that these companies owe reparations for the damage they have directly caused with greed. In fact, we have legal systems in place to attempt to protect people from poor decisions by individuals and businesses (for example, when BP was forced to pay for the Gulf oil spill). If there is a way to make the descendants of current immoral oil executives who prioritize profit over safety and survival, I would absolutely advocate for them to pay. Think about it this way - during WWII, Jewish people were forced from their homes and had their belongings and wealth stolen. Nazis profited off of torture and murder. Families who were not Nazis, who may have been completely innocent of wrongdoing, moved into those stolen properties. Jewish survivors of the Holocaust returned after the war to find other people living in their homes or claiming ownership of their valuables. Is this okay? Should it be “finders keepers”? Plenty of museums, including the Met, are returning items looted by thieves, assholes, and/or colonialists to the cultures or governments they were stolen from. And that is just the objects - no matter how valuable, rare, or sacred, that does not compare to the issue of stolen lives in slavery. If a person used their power to pass a law allowing them to immorally take property from you and your family, would you think it was okay for their descendants to keep your stuff because those descendants were innocent of the crime? If that law was later overturned because everyone in society agreed it was a horrible stain on humanity that should never have been allowed to happen, would you still think it was okay for anyone who benefitted from that law to keep the wealth they never should have had in the first place?

​@@avisian8063 don't compare humans to resources, worth of humans is far more. And stealing people's lives is far worse than mining.

what's your thoughts on the uk royal family and the church.......

​@@laurelbeach4529Yes it is time we held the Romans to account!

and what's your thoughts on the royal family past generations......

What about the Romans when they enslaved whites in uk 🇬🇧??

Yeah the clue is in the name right

he sounds like karl pilkington.

what's your position on the royal family..... and the church ?

​@@kencampbell-rf6ot both deserve to be abolished and properties taken to be given to their victims

@@charlesk22 agreed

Well when one considers 17.4m imbeciles thought telling their biggest trading partners to fcuk off was some sort of win 🙄

Doesn't help the descendants of his slaves, living in poverty though. He could give them a few million and not even notice it. He could also use some of his wealth for the community but he's a Tory.

​@@tompearce3610- surely investing into education and children's funds - particularly for slave-descendents - will affect a massive change and opportunity for future generations, no? Sounds like a really good idea to me

@@tompearce3610 it could if it had a targeted approach to lift impoverished areas.

He should follow Laura Trevelyan's example. Then he would go from zero to hero! (well, maybe)

​​@@danielcrafter9349 I agree re slave descendants, that was the point I was making, not money spent locally in Dorset. I missed He off the original post, sorry would have made better sense.

"Stop these people that are bringing people over on boats..." Erm, lack of self-awareness 101?

But this happened hundreds of years ago and slavery was completely normal around the World going back to the Bible. Stop making the Left look stupid

@@peterjones596 Conflation Central! 🙄

@@clivecosta-correa2102 Read the room, Mr Brain Deflation-Central. And try to have a think before commenting, I know it's hard for you.

@@peterjones596 I was referring to the woman's comments. _Wooosh,_ the sound of that going over your head 😆

Yes. Slavery was completely normal around the World back to the Bible. We could all put in claims back to the Romans and Vikings.

@@evolassunglasses4673 Industrialised slave trading on a global scale for centuries, used as the financial foundation for empires through to the present day? I also like how the slavers had the decency to share their profits with the people of their own countries....oh wait no they just kept it for themselves in hopes their descendants would rule over the plebs in the future. And here we are

​@@evolassunglasses4673 You're mistaking widespread for 'normal'. Throughout history there's been slave uprisings and anti-slavery sentiment. I'd argue though, that the descendants of what I'll call modern slavery are still living with the direct consequences of it, so should have some sort of recompense.

@@evolassunglasses4673 the difference is that the grandchildren and great grandchildren of industrial-era slaves are still alive today. It's been centuries since the Romans and Vikings did their stuff.

We only finished paying the interest off in 2015.

​@@stephenjon3502 Yep. We payed, not Drax and co.

Because it's part of our history and it was the locals who had it erected.

@Abitofsanity So, by your logic; if Hitler had helped German orphans he'd have been an OK guy?

@Abitofsanity You've been brainwashed by state propaganda, Evil people are evil people. In their countries, Putin and Kim Jong un are virtually kings; I would bet money that you oppose erecting statues in their honor.

@@Abitofsanity I'm sorry but charitable donations is not equivalent to leading the fight against Hitler, also having problematic views is not comparable to enslaving people. One persons faults and major positive actions is not equivalent to another's crimes against humanity offset by charity. Though I guess there is one logical conclusion to your argument. We shouldn't have statues at all.

Look stop blaming just the Torys. All of the West has been hollowed out by open borders Globalisation.

His idea is alive and well. The body may decay away but the idea lives on

Silly comment

@@leehenry5764 Maybe but it shows how people feel if they are wishing him back to finish the job. That's what i take from the comment.

I genuinely do feel like that. Quite frequently these past 4, or 5 years. Ever since a sad little trump wannabe came into power. I hate them so much for ruining fucking everything in OUR country. But then rationality returns and I remind myself, that hatred and bitterness towards others is like drinking poison and hoping the other person will die. Maybe things'll get better for our little island nation. Unlikely but.....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this filmed on St Thomas Street in Weymouth. I lived there years ago.

@@markdnffc It was indeed St. Thomas St.

Thanks, I'm not moving there then 😂

@@steves7013 Probably the best decision you coulda made 😂

I live here too and know literally hundreds of them. You need to get out more.

We could sue everyone from the Romans to Germany. Move on. This is destroying the Left.

No

Great analogy. No of course not. Though that would mean most Tory ultra wealthy families having their assets sequestrated, together with their bank account contents removed by HMRC. In reality, the wealth of the ultra rich is hidden away in offshore tax havens, so is beyond reach. 🙄

@Abitofsanity ending capitalism? yeah, good luck with that. the majority of governments in the world are capitalist and as a result, they hold all the power. you can elect parties on national levels who aren't capitalist, but on a global level, you're never gonna be able to completely eradicate the ideology

yes, that is exactly how we funded the NHS. The British marched an army into Iran and stole the oil at gun point.

They think he's a business man. Basically, just like most of the U.K they're a bit thick.

Slavery was completely normal around the World back to the Bible.

​@@evolassunglasses4673 does that make it alright?

@@tomwilson5108 no ofc not, but it does contextualise it a bit. looking through the modern lens most would correctly say that slavery was wrong, but at the time thats kind of just how things were and that was accepted and there's nothing any of us can do to change that

​@@tomwilson5108- and? So?

And we should take videos of all the landlords and their bootlickers crying ugly tears. For stress relief purposes.

Almost all of it

Can we have reparations from the Romans, Vikings and Germany?

​@@evolassunglasses4673 rome and vikings don't exist anymore, but Britain and those slave owning tory types still do, and so they are liable.

@Abitofsanity The vast majority of slaves transported to the Americas were already slaves in Africa and yes were sold to the U.S. However the vast majority of slave's transported to Europe, were not slaves in Africa. Britain also dominated the slave trade by a huge margin against any other country until the 19th century. That's like 200 plus years of 'outslaving' the Portuguese and americans. Our country was pure fucking evil throughout the entirety of the British Empire.

​@@Abitofsanity- ah, yes, so VERY difficult 🙄

She got on to the small boots pretty quickly.

Speak for yourself. I don’t.

@Stephen Jon If you live in the UK you benefit directly from slavery

Which one is that?

Slave today

In group preference is completely normal around the World. Particularly in India and China.

Slavery wasn't racist clown

That's a bit of a leap. I think it's more about people just accepting things the way they are.

It's mutual.

Yes they only have nominal independence , but the colonial currency will be ditched soon.

yes

Wealth of the father. That's the point of the video. He isn't guilty of things that were done by previous generations but he didn't earn that money either. And do you really care about those other things or is your point that we should just shut up about everything and pretend that the world is a just place and that wealth is always deserved no matter where it came from?

and what about your device you’re ranting on that was produced in a factory with forced labour (slavery). maybe get your own house in order before deciding to fix the world

@@danh5637 So targeting the systems that caused those issues doesn't apply when getting your house in order? How convenient for the slavers.

@@JP-sm4cs well no slave or no slaver from that period no longer exists or is alive. so how exactly do you propose we “correct” the slave trade other than in a tokenistic and self congratulatory way? and yes i do think it’s better to deal with our own epochs evils rather than try and alter one that were no longer in. it’s like shouting at ghosts.

@@danh5637 "you complain about capitalism while living in capitalism? Curious. I am very smart."

This is coming the wrong hill to die on. Slavery was the norm across the World back to the Bible

Are you a 6 year old?

@@evolassunglasses4673 what?

Nah that was in Newcastle Upon Tyne

no it doesn't, try again

Erm... I'm not sure slaves would call themselves "employees" - that's the point of this video. Not the fact that's he rich, but how/where his family made their money.

"companies" (individual white men) "employ" (enslave) people to make money (without getting paid themselves) to grow the "company" (Drax's deep pockets)

If his wealth comes directly from it then yes

Because he inherited the ill gotten gains regardless of the passage of time.

yeah, but when they start going on about how the poor are so because they don't work hard enough...

If you need to be told why you can’t be very bright.

I suggest you pop over to Barbados and ask them for a little history lesson my friend

What makes you say that the far left don't care about the slaves in these countries? I think you care about the effects of slavery in your own country and still care about slavery in other countries.

@@willreimer because they focus on this nonsense.

@@evolassunglasses4673 whether or not you consider it nonsense aside, it seems like you're saying "how can the left care about "A" when "B" is happening". I am saying you can care about both and I think you would find that much of the far left disagrees with the modern slavery happening in the Global South.

I mean it's kinda the far left ideology that we stop exploiting labour

Can you give us the source for your figures?

But we still did it

None or those things are as good as you might think they are

@@tomwilson5108 So did a lot of other countries, including Africa. Vladimir did a lot worse. Shall we politicise that and call it out and demand justice?

@@tomwilson5108 No, "we" didn't. A relative handful of people who were British were directly involved in it and profited from it. In general the vast majority of the country didn't, and couldn't do anyway as slave trading was de facto non-existent in the British Isles from about Henry II onwards. What can be said, however, is that those traders provided jobs to sailors and businesses in Britain's ports gained more profit than they would have done trading in other goods. What can also be said is that slavery was endemic worldwide. It was an integral part of international trade and had been since before records began. The excesses of the transatlantic slave trade were arguably no worse, and certainly hardly more widespread, than the East Aftican slave trade conducted by the Ottomans and their predecessors. A prime trade within Africa was slaves, even before the Europeans set foot there. So if this faux shock at people profiting from exploitation is going to be relevant then that also needs to be in the mix. In short, everyone who could own slaves owned them. And some masters were better than others. But the slave trade was illegal across Britain and most of her colonies from 1807 and across the empire from 1833. Nearly 200 years ago. 200 years, and still people are banging on about it. Why not ask the French state to repay the descendants of Louis XVI, or how about those killed in the American civil war? How about the Spanish civil war? Ever heard of a statute of limitations? How far back do we need to go into history to right the wrongs of previous generations? Perhaps only so far as is needed for self-righteous activists to feel that they've done something positive with their pitiful lives by tearing down people who make them feel envious? Wouldn't it be better if people stopped dealing with irrelevancies and actually started helping people wh oare struggling now. Like properly struggling - the homeless, the sick, the properly dispossessed. But no, that would reqire compassion, and as George Orwell noted, these people don't love the poor and oppressed. They just hate the rich.

@@FDCAFOK yes, in fact

Propaganda is everywhere, if you turn on a tv in the uk you are forced to listen and watch it, then you have to pay for your propaganda via tv licence

Is it false?

Something the Tory party use to great effect.

What's the correct assessment then?

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