Asmongold Reacts to The Streamer Who Faked A Disability For Donations | by SunnyV2 

The funniest part is that Asmon is right, you don't have to be fully disabled to need a wheelchair. You still need one if you can only walk like 20 steps at a time before needing rest. He totally could have played it off lmao

He could have just as easily said, "I wanted to show you guys this as a surprise, but here it is, thanks to your donations, I went to physiotherapy, after months of hard work, I can finally walk again."

He absolutely could've played it off, man. I have spinal arthritis and occasionally use a wheelchair on days where I can't stand, but other days I can walk around fairly well. Asmon's 100% on the money there, there's a million excuses that could've been made if he just used his brain.

I love how Zack is the villain turned hero when it comes to scammers

"Did some squats tonight, my thighs are on fire!" That shit was so fucking funny

There was a controversy here when bouncer threw out a disabled person in wheelchair because in the club they walked around. A lot of people think wheelchair means person cannot WALK at all, but a lot of people can walk short distances. Dude could have very easily spin this.

“Please stop DDosing my legs” lmao

I love how Asmon is a scammer coach as a side hustle

Personally, as a disabled person who can't even wipe my own ass when I take a shit, I can comfortably say under no circumstances would I use my disability to ever garner donations on a place such as a stream where I show my face and play games. My disability makes me far too pissed off to even want people publicly knowing every detail of my conditions and/or financial situation to which they may feel bad for me, only people I truly trust would hear that vulnerable side of me.

“He could of just been like yeah guys..sometimes my legs work and sometimes they don’t.” 😆😆

I am not defending this guy but let me share my story. I am partially in a wheelchair because I do have some days my legs dont have strength and hurt a lot. I use a power wheen chair in public to get around. HOWEVER at home i can get around a little bit using a cane to walk in the house in short distances. The way this guy got up and out you can tell it wasnt like this. Most people who even partially use wheel chairs have some hesitancy when standing up.

Zilian just needs to make steps in the right direction now. Keep going, one foot in front of the other. Stand tall and refuse to lose his footing. Walk off the insults and kick into high gear.

I love how Asmongold went from WoW guru, to Internet survival guide.

Please stop ddosing my legs. Holy fuck

His gamer chair was so powerful it healed his legs

Yo Zilean's story sounds awfully familiar like a Futurama Episode where Bender gets crippled but recovers and starts to pull the cripple con then fucks up live.

Its like this study about Cognitive Dissonance I read a long time ago. They paid one group of people 1 dollar to watch an hour long video about some crappy product and then told the people to tell other people about how great the product was. Basically "now go lie to everyone and sell them this product" They paid another group of people 50 dollars to watch the same video and tell a group of people about how great the product was. "Go sell this crap" just like the first group. Afterwards, they questioned the study participants on their personal feelings toward the product. The people who only got paid a dollar had way more positive feelings than the people who got paid 50 dollars. Basically the point is that since they only got paid 1 dollar for a few hours work they had convinced themselves that it was actually a good product. They didn't want to admit that had wasted time AND lied to everyone for ONE DOLLAR People who got paid 50 dollars had the opinion of "ehh whatever, it's crap but reason I lied and told everyone how great it is is because I got paid 50 bucks to do so" So basically people will lie to themselves instead of admitting that someone made a fool out of them Edit:some pretty scary implications politically to this study. If you want someone to go lie for you AND you want the liar to truly believe the lie they are telling, then you want to treat them horribly and pay them next to nothing

I design a bunch of art for a contest for his channel and he said I lost and fucking stole all of it and used it on his channel. With his goofy ass girlfriend.

What bothers me are people who are *truly disabled, who's physical disabilities have been documented by Physicians Specialists and ER Staff's in two different hospitals* like myself who live under the poverty line, starve for 10 days per month because what disability covers isn't enough to live on. The system isn't designed for it. Rightly so, it's meant to give you just enough to cover your rent and bills but you get the bare minimum as the Taxpayers pay for us. Now the challenge is for people like myself who have been seen and wrote paperwork to the Provincial Government saying I will *never be fit to work for the rest of my life* and there should be a class of Disability Benefits wherein people who really are disabled and dying and on Provincial Disability benefits get what closer to what a person makes every two weeks. I don't get even get a 3rd of what an average person makes in two weeks which means I can't afford groceries, I can't afford medications that aren't covered by the Provincial System and I starve for 10 days to 14 days a month because of the high cost of life and I don't live in a big province where rents are 3000$ a month but regardless if a new budget was approved and put in place for people who are actually truly in need which would then have a vetting process where maybe people like this guy would get caught sooner. I don't know. I just know that as grateful as I really am for the assistance I recieve but it sucks to have to starve. It sucks to have to go without medications that I really need and have to rely on a local soup kitchen and the local food bank which gives us food that's already been picked thru and taken by the "paid volunteers" and the stuff we get is basically expired and you can only go every two weeks and what they give you is enough for two meals. Two. That's it. I truly hate to complain but it should change. I hope it does. Maybe there could be measures put in place to stop scammers as well. I know people will crucify me in the comments because I'm another disabled guy saying it's not enough but it really isnt. I am grateful for what I get but as I said it's not even a quarter of a bi weekly paycheck and I'm tired of suffering. Love your reactions Asmond - long time viewer first time poster. Stay Awesome and Frosty all.

He for sure could have played it off as being able to move a little bit but still needing the chair most of the time. He could have said that at one point he was totally unable to stand and use his legs but there had been some partial recovery over time to where he was no longer completely immobile. He could even have said that the reason he had never demonstrated this on stream before was because he was worried that if he did walk at all then the trolls would give him a hard time and spread rumours that he was faking his injury.

Him getting out of the chair was HILARIOUS. It looked like a scene from an Adam Sandler movie... 🤦‍♂️🤦🏾🤦🏼🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿

"mask off moment" instantly mafe me think of "it was me austin, it was me all along"

Twitch can definitely request medical records before they appeal his ban. Companies ask for medical records all the time for different reasons. It's up to the employee if he wants to provide them or not. If he doesn't provide them he doesn't work there. It's not that hard to figure out

27:40 - How is it a HIPPA violation? HIPPA prevents information regarding your health from being distributed without your permission. It doesn't prohibit others from asking you to supply the information. You're free withhold your permission and deny access to your records, but since California is an at will state, Twitch is allowed to fire you for whatever reason, including a denial of access to medical information. HIPPA doesn't apply to Twitch in this case. A HIPPA violation would be if the provider supplied Twitch with the medical records without Zilian's OK.

That Hypno mask off moment was an “It’s me Dio” level reveal

at least he had a wheely good time.

Pro-tip: If someone says they know something about "HIPPA" instead of "HIPAA" you can ignore whatever else they're saying about it.

the funny thing is, he could have saved his career. I dont remember what she had, but my girlfriend in high school had a condition that had her wheelchair bound, but she could walk for short moments

I think he probably was in a wheelchair before streaming form some kind a accident, and started streaming in a wheelchair but when it became his thing as the streamer in a wheel chair he was afraid of what would happen to his career after he was fully recover. I remember how you where a few years back about only wanting to stream wow and that if you tried to switch to variety you feared it would ruin what you had.

They can ask him for the records. If he says no they can't force him. But if he says no, they can just reject the appeal.

Sounds like he's a really stand-up guy.

That's exactly right. They can ask for it to lift the ban, he doesn't have to comply. If he doesn't, the ban can remain.

For the record the commenter that said that this is illegal it would be a HIPPA violation to have twitch require him release his medical records to twitch that is very true it is a HIPPA violation and he would be under no obligation to release those records. They can only be released if required by court or another doctor or another medical profession type situation. Medical records are completely in 100% confidential. I've worked in the field so I do know this to be fact

Dude was probably in a car crash or something. Needed a wheelchair while his legs healed then just kept going with the facade.

Asmon, it wouldn't matter whether he denied it. The girl said "OMG" as soon as he got up and then she quickly non-sequitur'd into a dog story, before he panned the camera away from the empty chair, and ended the stream abruptly. Guy was dead in the water after that, ban or no ban.

He could have just gotten back in the wheelchair and said "Hey guys, what did you think? I wanted to surprise everyone, I've been working really hard with my physiotherapist and I can manage to get up and walk just a few short steps."

There are plenty of wheel chair people who can get up to get some things done. None of them ever spring out of a chair like that.

The instant "he's smurfing" one liner had me in stitches

Only Asmon could stretch an 11 minute video into 31 minutes.

Hey. That's me! (:

Honestly, My mom got hit by a van some years ago and have the same issue she uses a wheelchair to get around like 95% of the time, but once in a while with her pain meds she's able to go a very short distance at home... its possible, but so dumb abusing it.

He could've thank the fishes behind him and he would still convince like 4 people

“Is he walking??” No he’s floating

It's amazing because I grew up with a father who could walk for a certain amount of time before he was not able to anymore. It would have been very believable if he HAD said it at the time instead of keeping silence "for some reason"

They can ban him until he voluntarily shows the medical records.

its not a violation of hippa to state that due to his perceived fraudulent case regarding medical status to have his account reinstated on their privately owned company's platform he would be required to waive his privacy protection rights in regards to the incident in question, because he isn't required to do that, he could also NOT use the platform.

THE WILL TO SURVIVE Lmao.

Me personally I can walk, but not for extended periods of time so in public I have to use my wheelchair. But at home I don't use my wheelchair cuz I mostly just walk from my room to the bathroom or kitchen mostly.

As a paralyzed person; the chair is a dead giveaway. Those are the kind of chairs hospitals use, they are just different.

Dude took peter popoffs miracle spring water

22:15 I'm Sorry? XDD That was the lamest, funniest thing I've ever heard XDD "Yeah, his face is blue. He's smurfing" XD

I knew a dude that was always in a wheel chair and one day I stands up. Apparently he could walk a little but need the wheel chair like 99% of the time.

He should have lied and say he was in rehab and making slow progress and didn't feel safe trying at home. Not wanting to tell your steam as well.

The only people bound to hipaa are employees of health care. The patients could share what ever records they want.

I can't walk very far due to my dystonia. Some days I can't walk at all. People have looked at me as a faker when getting out of my car on my feet and taking out my wheelchair. It's lowest of low to fake a disability, but people need to realize that many people are partially wheelchair bound.

I'm autistic, and this feels really horrible. Having disabilities is nothing " cool " or something to capitalize on.

Once a liar always a liar. Anyway I like how Asmon tells his viewers he loves watching Sunny all the time as if they’re not there with him watching it all the time too.

5:23 He could also used the old classic, "No, guys. That was my twin."

He couldnt play it off because he specifically said he couldnt walk, period.

Its hilarious that he is asking chat when to say the game lol like a parent.

“You’re a idiot if you were a sticker on your hat” the guy with garbage Al over his room is talking… 😂😂😂

any one seen futurama, there is an episode where bender lost his ability to function and Beck helps him raise awareness, then he regains his ability to move around and he does it at a concert that was a fundraiser he was planning to pocket. lol maybe he saw the episode and thought that would never happen to him but it was a good idea lol.

came for the content, stayed for the eyebrow movements and cuss words... effing awesome

"HOLY MOLY GUYS, its a miracle ?!?" 😂😂

No shot slime is an “average person”

Ever since getting Covid June 1st I’ve struggled to walk distances. I get bad leg pain and out of breath from walking short distances. I can get around my place okay but I can’t navigate a grocery store without the aid of the electric shopping cart. I get looks from people like why’s he using that cart when he walked into the store. I rely on my inhaler if I walk too far.

8:07 i almomst rebooted myself laughing cuz is true lolololol

Omg I never thought of that miracle's stopped when cameras were invented

he could just say "i was receiving donations cose i was in a wheelchair, thanks to them i can walk now" :)

It's absolutely not against the law to ask for medical records...He doesn't have to comply but they also don't have to allow him back on....I worked in medical records for 5 years.

Asking for medical recorxs isnt a HIPAA violation. A medical professional handing over records to someone not in charge of care, or speaking on someones medical records, however is. At least to my knowledge

oh ZillianOP, this one is a classic, haven't heard from him since 2013... man I'm old 🤣

Asmon is a literal sage. A venerable person of sound judgment.

Could have said he regained the ability to walk, but it was excruciating to be on his feet, so he preferred to use the wheelchair.

My wife has frequent seizures. She could use a wheelchair ngl The way they acted is what sealed his fate

He's just a trailer short from being like Ray from Trailer Park Boys

He doesn't believe people after they've lied to him once but he still guzzles blizzards words down with a gallon of hopium

He should have re entered the cameras view like he fell .. pulling himself up

I used to raid with this guy in Firelands Heroic. Kept in touch with him until this shit happened. Wild stuff.

Most people would still consider 200-400 viewers a LOT even today, when the average is like 5-10.

To be fair, there is a lot people with mobility issues that need wheelchair to get around temporarily, i have some issues with my left leg so if i don't take meds for it I have to use crutches to move around

I was actually watching the stream that he magically fell up to keep the puppy from eating the pc cables

HIPPA does not block anyone from requesting patient information. HIPPA bans medical providers from sharing the info without permission from the patient.

"When I started streaming I needed it like completely. It was my 100% go-to" 24:25

The title for Asmon's autobiography has to be "It is what it is".

He got hacked so they could have watched him in his webcam

It's not a HIPAA violation if he is offering the information for a medical record.

I had a accident and was in a 2heel chair but could still stand now I can walk a fair bit but still use the chair. If this was the case he should have told people and been upfront

Its not HIPPA violation to request the information. Its a hippa violation if his insurance or medical provide it without his consent which can be written or verbal. If they were to then find out he was indeed disabled and banned him they could face potential blowback for an entirely different set of laws which dont entirely cover contractors. HIPPA applies to medical providers and insurance companies and no one else and ONLY prevents them sharing your information if you can be identified based on it without your consent. If you cant be identified they arent prevented from discusding it. Of course the twitch lawyers saw something on tv once and think its real. Twitch can request it all day and could have a court subpoena it especially if hes potentially using their platform to commit fraud.

Btw guys, not a HIPAA violation if the patient gives consent to chare the medical records XD

Your job can 100% demand a doctors note. They can't require medical records.

Literally said in the vid he got hacked by someone who knew him in real life and then 30 seconds later asmon is like I wonder how he knew 😂😂

I don't think I've ever watched Syndicate after that whole mess.

I know people in wheelchairs who can get in and out of cars, use a regular bathroom if required, do a small set of stairs or walk a few steps. And also use regular chairs. We even have a german RU-vidr like that, Leeroy Matata. He has like a milder form of glass bones, like porcelain bones, practising how to walk now, used to walk as a child, its just that his legs and other bones have broken so often that a wheelchair is just so much safer. He cannot risk falling. I mean, he feels all the pain when bones break. And he is not good at walking as he did not do it for many years. The way the dude basically jumped out of the wheelchair is really suspect, but yes, maybe he could have spun it.

he didnt think ahead, he genuinly believed he would never get caught, so he didnt even feel the need to think about what he'd say if someone saw him walking regularly, he shouldve prepared a good excuse

OMG Clara, she made me walk again. How dare you Clara

This is actually some of the funniest content on YT edit: "I feel like this guy's a bad decision maker" made me LOL IRL

I have a wheelchair for my MS and a cane and sometimes I need them and sometimes I don’t. But it’s a day by day basis. If he had just been honest and update his fans about his therapy this wouldn’t have happened

hippa only applies to doctors and insurers. it makes it so doctors or insurers can't distribute medical info without your permission.

The video said it was someone they knew IRL