Asmongold Reacts to "The Tragic Tale of WingsOfRedemption" | by SunnyV2 

Kyle had a big heart to go so hard for Wings, but I've made the mistake of trying to tackle self-improvement at a sprint instead of treating it like a marathon, and the problem is that it hurts too bad. I see why Wings couldn't stick it out in that situation, but he also didn't treat the friends who had good intentions respectfully even when things didn't work out. To anyone out there aiming to improve, take it a step at a time. Whether its weight loss, quitting addiction, or even working on procrastination. You aren't going wake up one day and be thin, or be without cravings, or have stellar work ethic. It's not a battle that can be fought in a week or a month and then put behind you. Day by day, it may seem like nothing changes, but when the years go by, you'll look back and realize you aren't the same. Hopefully you'll be in a better place.

"No matter how bad you've got it, someone out there had it worse and they're where they want to be." Damn. Thats the kind of perspective I need to get some motivation.

I love how Sunny describes Wings having a full emotional breakdown and weeping as "raging."

The baseball bat head injury as kid is interesting. Traumatic brain injurys are known to cause all kinds of impulsive behaviour which honestly describes wings to a T. He doesn't think before he says dumb shit, he can't resist urges like raging or not feeding the trolls, he can't even resist eating excessively even with half his stomache removed. God damn if wingo didn't take the crack to noggin dude might be semi normal

Wings is the perfect case study for not feeding the trolls. They're like sharks, as soon as they smell blood it's all over

Someone once asked Bruce Lee if he could beat Mohamad Ali. He said, "no". He basically told them that Mohamad was way too big and had way too much reach and he couldn't have beaten him in a match. Bruce Lee wasn't a blowhard, he was realistic. He understood limitations and size advantages. He also understood philosophy and the need to remove pointless tradition from conventional martial arts in order to optimize them. His efforts may have influenced what eventually became mixed martial arts, which is a HUGE competitive sport today. Bruce Lee is a legend, but he was also mortal and he understood and respected that.

I really like Josh Moon's take on it. When it comes to empathy, there exists a sort of uncanny valley, where a person becomes so pathetic, that instead of compassion people around them start feeling irritated. Think Bill from King of the Hill. That dog-like whimper at 44:10 is the moment Wings gets into that valley.

People are cruel, man. But anybody who has worked a tough job knows that you never break, you never show weakness and folk will soon tire of harassing you.

What people don’t get is everyone feels sorry for Wings when you first get into him, once you follow him for an extended period of time your realize why he has this cult hate following

I agree with Asmon when he said that telling people how you feel is a bad move. It really is, because it gives people a free pass to pick on you even more. It makes the situation worse, in most cases.

You can’t feel sad for dude who refuses to change he was given so many chances to get a new life but he refuses too and blame everyone but himself

I WISH Wings could be redeemed. It would be the greatest comeback story on RU-vid. But multiple people over multiple years have tried to help him out of this massive rut and he's incapable of sticking to any plans or strategies to try to fix his life. You'd literally have to lock him in a room and force him to lose weight, while also shielding him from the internet to build up his confidence and self esteem. If he has the ability to quit, he'll quit. He has no motivation to actually go through with anything. Even after his bariatric surgery, he gained the weight he lost back. The man is lost.

I was nearly as big as WoR and I've lost nearly 200 pounds over the past two years. Literally half the man I was. Crazy thing is, one of my (many) rock bottoms was this video about WoR a few years back from this guy name Knudsen or something? Can't remember. But yeah it was this huge video and very entertaining and halfway through I was like "holy hell...that's me." And looking back and having gone through extreme weight loss, I can see where WoR (and Kyle) went very wrong. They went too hard too fast. Exercise at his size isn't only unnecessary, but probably more harmful than good because the thing about being 400 pounds, it hurts to move and is very difficult. You HAVE to start off slow. When I started exercising, I would just walk a half hour to an hour straight. Excellent exercise for anyone, but probably the only exercise you can do at 400 pounds. You don't lose that much weight from exercise, you lose it in the kitchen. Eat better and much, much less. I'm not sure what Kyle was feeding him since 'healthy' is pretty vague, but if it's simply salads and crap, he's gonna fall off that diet really quick.

Wing's story is really sad to me, because people went out of their way to help him, often at their expense, and he just...doesn't take it. Then begins the pity parties and how there's nothing he can do, when a lot of it is just him unwilling to do so. That and him being so misleading to the people who supported him in regards to where their funds are going. I want to feel bad for the guy but I really feel like he's the one digging his own hole for a lot of this. I don't support the actions of the people who dedicate themselves to trolling him but a lot of this is his own doing. If he was just the least bit humble in that 1v1? I doubt anything that came after would've happened. After the super weird bribe attempt, that was the last straw for a lot of folks.

This should have been labelled as Chuck Norris vs Bruce Lee as that arc of this video was way more interesting LUL

Bruh I have no clue who would win between Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris but basically calling him "just an actor" is far from reality. He was certainly a trained fighter

Shout out to Sean ranklin and Liquid Richard

"The miserable man seeks out an even more miserable man. Then he is happy..." - some wise dude

As entitled and as despicable of a person Wings was, I honestly felt bad for the guy when he had a meltdown at 44:09. That was real human emotions right there. I hope he eventually gets his sh*t together.

Letting people down and cancelling plans last moment are huge symptoms of anxiety disorder. You constantly let people down because the anxiety stops you from living a normal life, most people looking from the outside see it as laziness but it's not, it's mental illness.

If he would have leaned into the memes in the beginning he would be one of the biggest streamers ever. He’s literally a direct representation of 50% of all the gamers for the most part.

The moment at the beginning of the video where he was "diagnosed as bipolar" sets everything else up to not be surprising in the least.

I love the look of bliss on zack's face on that outro clip where he is dancing

About a decade ago, I asked Wings if he'd play Call of Duty with me, I didn't expect an answer but I later got a notification... "No."

I would love for that interview series to actually be a thing. That would be unreal content.

Asmon: Never say what you feel! Zack: Emotionally letting out during his career multiple times.

The background music went so well Asmon’s post video comments

About bruce lee vs Chuck norris. Chuck has said that bruce lee had the skill to be a good fighter but not a tournament fighter. The fight in the movie was right after chuck became world champion on martial arts. Like a week or the day after bruce called him, saying that he wants to fight him in a movie. Chuck laught and ask "who will win the fight?", bruce answered "me". Chuck then said "you just want to beat the world champion dont you? Ok I'll do it"

Oh muh lord, the troll channels are about to have a field day with this one…

Shout out to kyles shower

Asmon thinks Bruce Lee was just a mere actor......... That literally broke my soul, but it is what it is!

awesome video man! i hope that your serious about getting some people on the pod cast for redemption.

Just in case anyone feels any pity for Wings after watching this video, keep in mind he has literally said ON STREAM that he thinks the age of consent should be lowered to 12 years old and that he skipped attending his grandmother's funeral so he could keep streaming in order to make more money.

Where you're pointing out his chair shaking, he's tapping his foot aggressively. I do the same shit subconsciously when I game or watch a movie and I have severe anxiety. One of my previous downstairs neighbors complained about noise on a few occasions and I couldn't figure out what noise they were hearing because I'm a pretty quiet person in general, then it just clicked one day. Now I have a tennis ball on the floor that I roll under my feet instead of tapping and haven't had any noise complaints since.

Norris was a boxer turned championship martial artist with 3 black belts that went into acting. Lee was an actor with no competition experience and no belt. The belt is your level of understanding of a certain martial art and not your skill at it. With no belt Lee was not a martial artist. If anyone cares, I'm just sticking up for a fellow Air Force veteran.

According to Chuck-yes! Norris once said that he wouldn't fight Bruce in a real street fight. They had many sparring sessions together.

The original video is 20 minutes and we can once again see how much commentary Asmon adds. Granted he did do the unrelated Chuck Norris segment but he still tripled the original runtime. If XqC watched the same video he would skip half of it and then leave to get food for the remaining ten minutes.

Ive watched wings for almost 10 years. This man deserves everything that he gets.

I put this video on last night and was too high to watch it. It made me feel so bad for him that I couldn’t take it. I’m sober now and I still feel for this dude. Great job analyzing it though.

I've been practice both karate and Wing Chun myself for over a decade and I just wanted to point out that while Chuck Norris was a tough SOB and a legendary champion, someone one being a karate tournament champion doesn't necessarily mean they'd be good in a real fight against another trained martial artist and I think the context is atleast worth mentioning because Bruce and Chuck's martial practices outside of the hollywood setting were very different. I'm also not saying that Bruce Lee would for sure beat him or anything either, but In karate tournaments the bout only lasts until the first proper blow is landed and a point is earned, unlike boxing or actual street fighting with no rules. Bruce Lee didn't like point matches because they're not real fighting and he didnt like the idea of stopping at a single blow because that makes no sense outside of the context of a sport, and he wanted to train for the street rather than sport because he grew up having to defend himself at times. It's a little bit difficult to compare the two when one goes until someone is down or dead, and the other only goes until a single blow has landed. That being said, seeing a real and non choreographed fight between the two would be awesome and it would be cool to see the two titans of their time clash regardless of who came out on top. I wouldn't even know who to root for

I find the "Chuck Norris vs Bruce Lee / not even close" analogy rather amusing as the two trained together regularly with only admissions of sparring but never a real fight in any interviews with Norris.

"I can't hold down a job" this is why, even though Amazon isn't the most amazing job in the world, I'm proud of myself for sticking with it. It's better than the shit I've had to do in the past and it has decent benefits, and if I decide to, it will pay for college. I've always looked at myself as a complete failure and now I don't, it's a nice feeling

Never watched him in my life, but just watching this and hearing about his early childhood, I presume that Jordie is suffering significantly as a result of traumas sustained in childhood. Need for external validation, low self-esteem, hypersensitivity to criticism, obvious depression, probably lack of motivation and learned helplessness, alienation of friends, eating disorder, poor stress tolerance, emotional lability and clear issues with rage. He has it all. He has to fix it if he wants to live a normal life.

46:10 The Barney costume troll with a trombone example hits deep.

It's no weird seeing videos made on Wings, I've watched him for years on PKA and his streams, unreal

Shortly after SunnyV2's video on him, Wings suggested the age of consent should be lowered to 12. I don't think there's any realistic redemption in WingsOfRedemption

44:19 compassion... dunno if I gotta say thanks or I like you a lot for that AsmongoldTV... it's a genuine kind soul behaviour moment, pretty rare nowadays, ppl are bad at being empathic, so compassion.. it's a word a lot of people will never experience the definition. I felt bad for teh guy too, buy I'm not a streamer so I didn't think about turning off the stream immediatly like you did. Thanks

You cant help someone who doesn't want to move on... You just can't

Me : Sees asmon watching Wings My Brain : LOOK THERE, LOOK LISTEN!

Came for Asmon reaction to WoR, stayed for Bruce Lee vs Chuck Norris

IP man, the guy who will find you via IP

You lunchin on the Bruce lee vs chuck norris fight lol

I agree with Asmon on the Bruce Lee take. We always compare modern MMA fighters with their stats.

Oh boi have I been waiting for Asmongold to react to these "Wings Documentry" style of videos. XD As a long time WingsOfRedemption fan to around 2014 becoming Asmongold fan, just going from Neet to Neet. It's great! XD

Lmao I love the Chuck Norris VS Bruce Lee argument in between the video.

I mean I understand asmonds opinion on who’s better Bruce lee or chuck, asmond is a person that believes in a past record that is visual and has actual backup, while Bruce lee was mainly a movie star. he was trained by ip man one of the greatest martial artists ever, but he never went up against a lot of the stronger fighters of the time so there is no proof who would’ve won

Wings was in the golden era of cod and RU-vid commentary , I was a kid watching him , hutch, nanners, woody etc

The wings of redemption trolls are way to good at what they do. To have a large community of trolls like that is beyond me.

I love it when people ask me for an advantage in a competition. Makes their loss much sweeter.

This just reminds me of when a friend joked that this was my future because I also isolate myself. Yeesh I still remember the ice cold feeling in my gut after watching some of this myself.

I've never heard of this guy but it sounds like he needs real friends. Tragic, because at this stage in his life the odds are against him developing a good support system of people around him that can encourage him to make good decisions. He's deep in the shit right now with no one to help him get out, and you don't find that support from people on the internet. I used to be heavy too, and you can see the progress I made in my picture here and in some videos on my channel. It makes all the difference to be surrounded by people who are in your corner cheering you on, and he has just the opposite of that.

just FYI CHuck Norris was trained by Bruce Lee for two years, and in the scene where they fought in The Way Of The Dragon, they actually threw blows at eachother and more or less sparred at full contact, its known as the "illegal fight scene".. chuck norris has also said that Bruce couldve beat up anyone he wanted at anytime if he really wanted to, also that he " wanted to do a lot more then just beat me" in a fight lol their friendship/rivalry is so interesting

I love seeing mention of PKA and the gang anywhere. Big ups Liquid Richard

Personally, I think the story is just sad, but its the sad reality and truth of some people. You just can't help some people because they don't want to help themselves. When you're so deep in the hole, you just stop caring.

"What did chuck Norris win?" "My Heart." lol

To the guy that said Asmon never wins just saying man we are both watching him. I would say that means he's won. 🥇

I think Asmon misunderstood the movie reasoning. Hong Kong had numerous clubs that had tourneys multiple times a year. Saying Bruce Lee never won anything is like saying Rocky Johnson (The Rock's Dad) never won the WWE/WWF, because there simply. It's always easier for you to understand items closer to your sphere of influence. There is no physical record of Bruce Lee winning because it's kinda hard to organize anything with civil unrest constantly going on against the british (curfews and whatnot). Remember, just like the soviet union with churches, 40s germany with swing music, the british were heavily monitoring the gyms where many young men were coalescing. Bruce and Chuck are the same age and both entered the movie business. Asmon is not wrong to be confident in believing Chuck might win, with him actually having a fighting record but I think, for the sake of a fair argument, he should have spent that 3 seconds to understand Bruce Lee's background. Truthfully, comparing a man who fights and regularly wins with set rules vs a man that fought policemen, gangsters, and fighting masters in the alleys of HK, it would be hard to gauge who would win. I suspect that Bruce Lee's shady HK history whilst being a respectable fighter made Chuck believe Bruce might win (Chuck is might also be being too humble and kind).

I love the completely unrelated left corner we took to go trough "BRUCE LEE VS CHUCK NORRIS" avenue.

Problem with Wings is that he was helped by his community via donation of money and whatnot. But not only did he never followed any of the health things he promised (Surgery, etc.), he also lied about where he spent the money he was given. Sad, really. He should've stopped streaming and focused on himself. Anyways, why's asmon awfully defending Wings even on some obvious mistake of his? I don't really like how he even said "(Chat accuses wings of something) No he's not! You just don't like him" Wtf is that reasoning?

I love how chat proves Asmons point about Bruce Lee and the never compete professionally thing. We'll never know how good Bruce really was, how he would stack up against professional fighters of his time... and that mystique is going to last forever.

the fact there was a mini debate between chuck norris and bruce lee is gold no pun intended

Chuck said him self they fought and Bruce won he said he has no chance. Bruce fought all of his life in Hong kong , before states

Wings does everything to himself. He’s a large child essentially. I used to route for the guy. I used to think that “yea he’ll turn his shit around. maybe he’ll pull an LTG and not be so insufferable. His wife will leave him and he’ll have a reason to get better. He’ll have a health scare.” But it just never happened. I tried donating 10 dollars a few times to give him a little advice. And he flat out called me a troll and suspended me from his chat. Just like everyone else who’s ever genuinely tried to help him. He pushes them away and makes enemies of his them.

LOOK HERE! LOOK LISTEN!

Asmongold not knowing anything about martial arts history but speaking with such confidence is actually fascinating (the bruce lee vs chick norris argument)

I appreciate your choice to not let other people influence. you are encouraging. I think for myself also

I went through a WoR period where I couldn’t get enough of the retractor vids. I’ve moved on but I, to this day, still say “LOOK HERE! LOOK! LISTEN!” Whenever I’m upset with my friends while gaming. Sadly they think it’s “my thing”. I tried telling them about WoR and the legion of retractors and trying to justify it but the more times I explained it out loud to other people the more I realized how fucked up it all was. Like if you saw the vid of the guy who tied his cat to a ceiling fan and you tried to explain why you thought it was funny. Not many people were laughing with me, just judging. So I gave it up.

That moment that confirms that 58% of Asmon's audience thinks movies are like real life.

The bruce lee chuck norris im dying XD

For a period of about two years, Lee and Norris trained and worked out together in Norris' backyard. According to Norris, their training together never involved an actual fight, but he has admitted in the past that some “sparring” did occur in their training. Now with this info and The knowledge that Chuck Norris has said multiple times Bruce would beat him in a fight it’s clear who would win.

on the Bruce Lee v Chuck Norris thing: In a karate tournament Chuck would win. In a street fight I lean towards Bruce Lee. Bruce lee had to win fights to live back home. and he was constantly in street fights in the US while he lived there. It depends on the setting.

I just got me some Wendy’s chili for the first time, and I gotta say, I get it now.

I can still vividly remember that 1v1 between jordie and tom

the people who think Bruce would beat Chuck are the same people that think a body builder would beat any sized UFC fighter

this reminds me of this guy i used to watch named Avilo. He played Starcraft 2 which is a game i really enjoyed. The guy had so many trolls, would rage out all the time and would do really crazy controversial stuff and was kinda a creep when it came to girl twitch streamers. He was insanely entertaining though i thought. he really went down hill. but there is a documentary type video on him too.

Seeing those real sweet kids on asmons channel is pretty mad

Ninja got his start of competitor halo

for some reason that "crusade against asshole" make me crack all the time 1:32

Having a laughing fit at the comments and Asmon's chat going ballistic on the Bruce vs. Chuck thing. Because I feel that the point was that people would argue about matchups forever as long as you never entered a competitive environment. So anyone arguing about it proved that Asmon was right.

great analogy

Wow this is huge for a big streamer to come out in support for wings. People look for all kind of excuses to beat this man down and its super lame to me. I know he's said and done some stupid things but he atleast is self aware about his own problems.

Wings brings the trolls onto himself it’s like a person that invites trouble to their own door. Of course it’ll blow up in your own face. Especially when you stream daily and wear your emotions on your sleeve.

Holy shit. This hit me hard. I was born when my mom was a junior in high school, my grandma took care of me for the most part while parents worked. My dad is a drug addict and left when I was 6. I'm also clinically diagnosed with bipolar disorder and depression.

The Chuck Norris v Bruce Lee debate is right up there with the classic who would win between Superman and Batman scenario.

Asmon on that SunnyV2 binge just a few days after I chose to binge his videos

The whole thing with the fake crying is ridiculous, everything i've seen from wingsofredemption is that he is an insecure man that isn't mature enough to handle his emotions, and considering how rough his childhood was that insecurity and loneliness runs deep. I genuinely feel sorry for him, he's never been actively malicious.

Ok that inflatible Barnie with the trombone analogy fucking killed me.

Wow thinking Bruce Lee could be Chuck Norris is like saying The Professor could beat Lebron James or Jackie Chan could beat Jon Jones. The only reason people would think this is because Chuck Norris was an older when he became famous.

Im on no one's side when it comes to wings.. The trolls are just bad as him and he isnt good either I think he deserves the trolls in some way because he really is a terrible human being.. and yet i feel bad for him But i think the trolls go too far as well and are not even reasonable most of the time.. They hate on him for EVERY single little thing just because they can.. And some trolls do actions that go too far one of the things that i really do not understand is how the trolls are bothered about him being racist but the moment u go to their discord channel n word is being dropped every few messages.. both sides just seem terrible. I do not think its weird for people to dislike the guy because he is really a piece of shit but most of the trolls are no better than him But man is it addicting to watch this stuff.. its like some kind of reality show

What is more sad are people who go out they're way just to troll or hate watch him. It's like how boring is your life if you find this entertaining to do