I like to imagine that McConnell is like... your cat.. like a super angry Garfield cat. I adore him. I think his contributions are great but it sucks that his self confidence rides so heavily on the comments of shitheads like me.
It's an act. A persona. His self confidence doesn't suffer from comments, but he portrays it as such. He's not a gross burping fat slob, but he acts that way. Asmon isn't really THAT appreciative of donations, but he acts like he is. Nothing you see on a stream is "genuine". It's all fake.
@@Emajenus I just recently even found asmongold on RU-vid but dont really follow streams so I wasn't aware of their inner workings. They seem nice though.
@@Emajenus The way he reacts to Asmon getting donations or general support from community makes me think McCuck might actually be a sore loser who rides on the back of Asmon's fame.
@@CS-ev8py I'll be honest. Dont care if it is a character or not. Hes super fucking annoying and acts like a child, cries that hes not getting defended by his white knight when random strangers call him names on the internet, and gets exaggeratedly pissed off at stupid things I rarely ever agree with him on and even if I do people being mad makes me immediately mad. I hate the guys voice I'd rather he never made a goddamn sound if he really has to exist on the stream gives me a headache every fucking time and makes me want to stop watching every single video I hear him in even though I really like asmon. Just cannot stand McConnell. Really just hate the guy and I dont know him. Everything he does or says pisses me off to an unreasonable degree. I seriously cannot stand him, youd think he tried to stab me when I was 11 or something. But really I just find him loud, obnoxious, extremely goddamn stupid and thoughtless, and bitchy and whiny. Ruins every single video.
Key ring bag was the one feature in WoW that made people love me. All the way up till cataclysm :( it was the one feature in the game that gave dungeons an actual feeling of dread before you entered them. For a room to be locked meant whatever was behind it was DEADLY!
I use to remember leveling my night elf hunter and running into an undead warlock who was also leveling. I saw him almost every week and we'd always have at each other at first. I even saw him through the expansions I'd always wave at him. I miss that feeling of community. I never said a word to him but he ended up being a friend. We'd even help each other do quests sometimes. I wonder what happened to him when I quit. The panda's were just too much for me. Lol "Lokis" if you're out there I miss you buddy.
I remember a level 60 horde rogue who corpse camped me for about 3 hours in Stranglethorn Vale when I was a noob level 30 trying to do the Kurzen and Nesingwary quests. It pissed me off so much that his name stuck in my mind. Over a year later, in Burning Crusade, I was a level 67 paladin, I saw the fuckface in the first BC zone and he was only level 60. I guess he was late to TBC. I camped that fucker all day long. Not even joking, I took a day out of levelling to kill him and camp him. He was a rogue so he was able to res, go invisible and move away from me but I would just look up the horde questing locations and ride around them all until I found him, then camp him again. At one point he logged out for over an hour and when he logged back in, guess what? I fucking camped him some more.
Man I think my favorite thing was gear. The blues in particular but the purps as well. I remember most of my first characters blues through the levels. There was nothing like killing a mob in the world and finding something you could use. I cherished those items.
You’ll have a blast. The professions actually helped you make gear that mattered, which I cannot say has been a thing since I think Burning Crusade maybe Wrath of the Lich King. So when you make a warhammer, you’ll definitely use it.
This is all for comedy, Mconnell is the best at makin people give more subs, and money people want to hear it. AHHAHAHA these two do what it takes to make good money. Even if Mcconnell says he dont need money sometimes people are silver spooned or on footstamps but i like Mcconnell cracks me up well done kid.
I remember with my undead mage at level 49 that I couldn't wait to get to level 50 to be able to get pom pyro, every level was earned. vanilla was amazing, gold meant a lot, professions mattered, and farming was special, every bit counted, this is what made vanilla great.
Weirdly the things i'm most looking forward to is the small things, like how on Hallows end you could use the pumpkin to jump onto the roof of the Goldshire inn. When i first figured out how to do that felt as good as anything I've done in the game so far.
This. This is exactly why I can't stand arena or e-sports in WoW. MMORPGS are about the journey and friendships you make. They are simply online D&D simulators.
It’s the same shit with when I played Runescape. I missed the old days and all the people I played with and meet along the way. It’s been great having Wow Classic back.
I was a pretty shitty player at the time. My first character was a prot warrior who was an engineer and she wore cloth goggles at the beginning because my reason was of how they looked cool.
Im so happy that i played this game at the time where it still was like this. After this you never got anything even coming close to such an experience, even when you watch videos or tell people hours and hours again of how awesome it was, it still feels like you cant give it enough credit or lets say you just cant explain how awesome it felt.
people think to much x) my plan for classic buy a level 60 gnome mage on ebay 2 weeks after classic release, look for dungeons get decent gear and professions buy gold from farmers pay a hardcore guild to give me all the best items i can get in mc then farm the fuck out of bgs with my awesome gear to rank 14 with a hardcore pvp guild i also paid to join
I like mcconnel on the stream but wow that was just an immature reaction. the entire chat calls him mucuck its just trolling why does he have to be so mad?
@@phogelbice dont care. Hes detestable in every way. I genuinely goddamn hate the guy. All sound from his mouth hurts my brain. All words smell like they're coming out of his ass instead of out of his skull. And every sentence makes me feel like my blood is boiling and I have to fight off the urge to yell at my TV trying to tell him to shut the fuck up. Just wish he would never ever speak or make any noise or just would stop being on the streams. Go get his own goddamn job.
McConnell is spot on about Battlegroups, sure before they came to be ques took much longer, but there was a sense of community in PvP that has been lost. You formed rivalries and sometimes people even ran from you on sight. You spotted regulars on both sides. You had mutual respect for those you fought against and with. That hasn't existed in years in WoW. So what an AV took an hour to que, but it was so much better back then. Asmongold has no right to say anything about Battlegroups because he only knows what it is like to use them. That would be like listening to people about LFG supporting it, but never played the game before it came to be. Your opinion on the subject is so far from objective because you never played without this system in place.
Yup, I loved the buzz when gathering for a raid, and you would see other horde guilds gathering and chatting... and then you would have the odd alliance noob ganking stragglers... loved it ;)
Sweet Geebus, I remember my first day playing on Vanilla. Rolled a human warrior, because coming from Dungeons and Dragons and jumping into WoW, it made sense as the easiest thing to play. Whew, spent the first three hours fighting the wrong mobs to gather cloth for the starter quests. Instead of finding out that there were bandits inside of the Abbey walls, I went outside the Abbey and was fighting the bandits that were 5 levels higher than me. Back then that was a huge level gap and they could two shot me. Still ended up completing it that way xD Then when I got outside the Abbey walls and hit Goldshire, I got lost. Some high level player (around lvl 20) took pity on me while I was running through the forest and guided me to the next area I had to go to.
If you're asking about WoW Classic, I have no Idea, didn't get into that beta. It looks nice, but some things are bound to be different since they can't just straight up revert back to how things used to be. Back then there were a lot of problems with the game that eventually got patched. Some of the better things about the game also got patched out. So they are going to have to find a balance between the good and the bad, and settle for something. I personally hope that they bring back weapon expertise levels. I used to grind my weapon skills for days to be able to use a new weapon that I had been neglecting my weapon training on. Loved being able to use weapons that were not usually used by certain classes. It was a mess, but a loveable mess.
Mad season is legit one of my favorite content creators - I don’t even play wow but I still watch him and asmon for some reason. I will play classic though, because I’m super curious about it based how vets talk about it.
The biggest problem with WOW Classic is the community. Back in the day, WOW was played by hardcore MMORPG nerds. Nowadays WOW is played by random toxic kids.
27:39 - You know i never really played wow. I tried to get into it but something was always in the way. And i was so angry at myself for never getting into it. I was thinking that i lost a chance at something special. But then this sentence happened and i realised i didnt miss something i never had. At that time and for a long time the game i was burrowing into was morrowind. For A LOT of time. And what this sentence was, is exacly what i felt back then. If you were careless early on, a goddam one foot long bug could kill you. If you didnt have a way to get somewhere in the dungeon then game didnt just give it to you, you had to come back. Sometimes a lot later. When doing anything significant was difficult, any triumph had a taste. A harsh adventure will reward you for your work at its end. While easy distraction will forever be . . . unfullfilling. I feel somewhat lighter. BUT I WAS ALWAYS GETTING FOKIN LOST BY TRYING TO FOLLOW THEIR DIRECTIONS!!! ROAD?! WHAT IS A ROAD IN YOUR DEFINITION?! WHAT COUNTS AS A TURN?! IS THAT A TURN ALREADY?! OR IT ISNT?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and then i learned that i am super fokin bad with directions. So theres that.
The thing I hate the most about the "sundering" event, was that they removed many unique and cool weapon and armor models. Namely the "Runic Darkblade" AKA the best looking realistic 2h sword model in the game at the time... I really wish Blizz would bring it back, but not enough people even know about it to ask.
*Something cool happens* McConnel Gets really excited for Asmongold *Few seconds go by* McConnel remembers he's supposed to act like a jealous asshole all the time and starts getting mad You can tell he really cares about his friend's success
Holy crybaby....gonna dig through twitch chat replay to find these supposed McD-bag rants. I really hope I do find them, but I’ll be just as happy if I don’t 😁 //glad to see MadSeasonNow on here, this man needs more subs, his content is pure, drama-free gold !
It's weird how there exists this conception of choice as needing to lead to an equal outcome. Madseason displays it here, Blizz has done so in the past, some hack IGN reviewer of PoE did, too. the IGN hack said: "If these progression choices have right and wrong answers, are they really choices at all?" which to me is crazy talk. Surely, if a choice had no right and wrong answers, it would not be a choice at all? For if a query remains without right and wrong, then it can only be answered one way, which is to say hardly at all Choice more than implies, it necessitates right and wrong answers. If you can only choose between right answers, then your choice of answers didn't matter, rendering it meaningless and choiceless. What choice did you have? You chose one correct option out of 10 equally correct options. And if the other 9 options were more, or less, correct, than they would surely be wrong in relation to the most correct one, meaning you have 9 wrong ones vs 1 right one. Illusion of choice does not, then, mean that there is only one viable build. Illusion of choice is when your choices do not matter. When else can they matter but in the face of a wrong answer, a wrong pick? Illusion of choice is what retail has now on every row where mobility or secondary skill talents are "chosen" (shall we say, selected): either which one you pick hardly matters since they don't correspond to an immediate or noticeable DPS increase, etc. The point of having viable builds over non-viable builds is precisely that, to have choice, to encourage player experimentation and mistakes. You can, absolutely, dump every talent point in one tree only, thereby constituting a bad, poor, wrong build, and the freedom with which you did so is exactly what it means to have choice. But even then, this whole "talent builds only one viable bluh bluh bluh" is a moot point and red herring. What was cool and neat and fun about vanilla, older WoWs, is not that "you had the choice and the bluh bluh talents", but rather that Blizz hit on what people now call "emergent gameplay". There was a broadness to vanilla etc that facilitated learning, mistakes, choice, missing out, lucky and unlucky moments, great success and terrible failures, ... Right now, everything you do is what everyone does, and that cannot be failed or mistaken. That makes it really predictable and very boring. But when you're dropped into a wild environment where the boss mechanics will dictate the talent build, and the fight, and the success rate, and the experience of killing him, that excites to no end. Boss fights are just one element, of course, but older WoWs featured this interplay between mechanics and features that allowed for such moments of variety and challenge and adventure. They were great because they were different (the old "needing the bad in contrast with the good for the good to come through"). Now you tie everything into one and the same item or feature and it drains the fun out of the experience because it's samey, dull, lifeless, and scripted. Not just talents, but talents in relation to everything else: other classes, guildies, spells, gear, enemies, locations, items, reputation, racials, faction, ... and all of those things in relation to each other.
"No choice at all" refers to the player having knowledge of the "best" choice which is the "right" choice i.e. if you know what the best choice is you would be stupid for not picking it. To deter min-maxxing, you have to have a diverse range of options with equal outcomes where there is no clear "better", just different.
asmongold played maybe 1 month of Van WOW, priceless when he says back when you had to wait for quest text, when there was a option to make quest text instant in the game.
On the topic of Vanilla leveling, I remember destinctively never reaching 60 on any fucking character. I think the first time I dinged on max was late bc or pre-wotlk, because I just loved the journey and dicking around with my friends. Fast forward today, where I consider boosting every fucking character I begin to play. Fucking hell, I'm even considering to boost a 106 hunter to 110 just to skip Legion because this whole affair is so fucking dull after the first time.
Finally got back into WoW and started on a private server, after a Sunday of WoW i am lvl 13. The grind is as dull as i remembered it, soon i can go into Deadmines !!! to get some blues that will not be replaced for weeks. taking it slow and probably not reaching 60 but the leveling and developing friendships was the good thing back in the day.
I stopped playing WoW shortly after the dungeon finder was implemented. All the community on the server was gone. Before that, I'd see friends (and not-so-friends) just walking around and strike up a convo. I'd compete against the same people every week at the STV fishing tourney. I was known by name as one of the best healers on my server (nbd). That, and the effing pandas. We had Ragnaros, then the Lich King, then a world-destroying dragon, then pandas.......I never came back.
let's be honest here. PVP in vanilla might have been "unique" but the balancing was absolutely fucking terrible, getting one-shot has never been fun. the most important element in any sort of pvp content is the possibility of counterplay, not allowing counterplay builds for a shit pvp experience, as it just depends on who has the bigger one-shot button. shout out to zandalarian hero charm, pom pyro mages in t2 and above, literally critting 3.8k which is more than most people had towards the end of vanilla. the pvp movie "Hycer rank 13 warlock pvp" tells you everything you need to know. dude uses charm on succ, proceeds to shoot 1 soulfire for 4.3k, no counterplay possible.
I lowkey felt bad for Mconnel or w.e the fuck his name is. I'm not saying you had to say shit to the subscriber to defend him. But to just placate bc he donated a lot was exactly what you fell for. You should've know mconnel didn't feel right after that, I knew immediately. You know why? That's called bro science. He went quiet, and did get triggered by a subscriber which is a no go bc it's usually not constructive criticism but just someone trying to get a rise. What you should've done is call him or something and asked if everything's alright and you're sorry that you didn't get the hint that he was pissed. Kind of shows me the type of person you are mate. Just kept talking about WoW when at that point, I didn't give a shit about your opinion anymore. Bc you left your homie to hang. Stay woke.
Vanilla WoW was amazing but unfortunately I started playing too late to reach high level and do anything serious in the game before BC came out. BC had it's bugs but it was a very very good xpac and I consider it the golden age of WoW. Then LK came out... it was pretty good but you could tell the game had peaked and was on the downhill slide. Then there was Cata.... while it wasn't terrible... there really was a lot of negative impact changes that they made. Scarring the world and changing many of the zone quests really didn't sit well with me. I quit playing WoW for about a year during Cata. From there forward the game was in free fall as far as I'm concerned, until WoD... Warlords was a bit of an improvement over what came before it and it was fairly fun to play even though it was nowhere near as fun as Vanilla and BC were. Legion was relatively good as well but again the game seemed to start heading downhill again. BfA made me step back a bit. I've not played it in any serious way at all. I'd say if they were going for a super easy mode game, they've done THAT as best as could be done in BfA but it's all quite boring for anyone who has played for very long. Just my two cents. Definitely looking forward to Classic.
23:22 just OMEGALUL. Storywise they are better if you are a 12-year old that has attention spam allowing you only to watch flashy cinematics and cutscenes while injecting another lethal sugar dose in your body. If you can handle reading and using your imagination it's much better than a cliched story of modern games, reusing old arks and character motivations that don't make sense. Retconning things, spaceships, making a titan out of a fucking planet. Just pure fantasy haven that immerses you into a world.
I hope the community in classic will be pleasant. I have this feeling it will. We're all older and we want this for so many reasons. It means so much to us all. I'd like guilds to take out busier lives into account. The leveling was a long process and I think it'll be even more so now. What I'm trying to say is I hope it feels natural. Where we're all still on the same pace as we were back in the day to today's scale I guess. I'm not gonna take days off to "beat" WoW but I will make a nice little dedicated WoW Time.
the battle groups was a necessity due to the battlegrounds, it was when they forced the battlegroups across the realm into our servers is what mccuckle is thinking of at the end of the video.
I wonder why everything keeps saying there was no dungeon finder in vanilla. In patch 1.5 the "meeting Stones" would que you for a dungeon and even put people in your group. Then again in patch 1.7 all innkeepers gained a "gossip" option which would also que you and put people in your party. It was a very bare bones and clunky system but it was in the game.
I mean seriously, one of the biggest issues blizzard has right now is that they try to make every aspect the game has easy. The talent tree is completely ruined now, you don't buy your abilities or traits anymore, gear has no resistance anymore, there is no hit/dodge cap, no ammo and everywhere you turn your face inside a city you see a portal taking your lazy ass to another city/region. Stop making the game fucking easy to play and let people struggle to get what they want!!!! -______-
my classic endgame shaman was a elemtary tank for strat baron and scholomance runs and a icemage as offtank goosh we 2 ruled those dungeons in duo most the time because who the fucking one need meta those days. if u read this my beloved trollmage called "Besen" here is your beloved troll shaman "gargonzala". :'( i miss you so much!
What is the song that plays at 24:10 called? I want the same version that is played in this video please Edit: Nvm figured it out...Legion - Anduins Theme
You will not have that community. You will get jerks, because mostly jerks play WoW now. There are a few people who still long for it (like me) but you will still get so many losers playing.
In Vanilla we've had saying "guy who won World of WarCraft" for particularly annoying know it all players. I guess with Classic this can finally happen!
anyone else cry up a bit when the community section came rolling in? I feel thats single thing is really the most missed part from wow. I do nothing any of the other changes have really affected the game as much as the dilution and eventual destruction of server communities. Its probably the main force that will prevent the game for even being as good as it use to be
Yeah but it's disgusting. He sees Asmongold making 6 figures now playing video games and watching YT and he feels like he deserves some of it. It's really an unhealthy situation since mcconnel is a minimum wage worker. They both were nobodies. Suddenly the dynamic has changed in their friendship and the money is throwing a huge wrench into everything
Can I just say that all the things he talks about in this video is the same things everyone used to complain about which lead to the way the game is today, without all these things. Now y’all realize how awesome all these things were and want to go back to it.
I am going to be making a shaman in vanilla wow and creating a guild of serious raiders asmongold i would love for you to join us as a warrior tank/dpser hmu if your interested when it comes out
@@AV-wn7xz spoke for me and the other replies. Seems like you're speaking for yourself while we here speak with each other. Sorry. Dont think you're on the majority side here. McConnell is fucking detestable human fucking trash. I dont use this word lightly. I've only ever said this about one other person in all my 22 years of life. But holy fuck I fucking hate this guy. I actually genuinely feel volatile hate towards him. I have an immense amount of hatred for him. And I dont even know him.
I played all through vanilla and I cant even remember the term balance druids or seeing one at all... Ferals were viable in pvp but other than that it was just a healspec.
Having different tiers of spells is probably the coolest thing I've ever seen out of wow combat. Though, you could just tie that into the cast bar. Scale the spell for how long you were casting. End the cast sooner for a weaker and less expensive use.
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