The FFXIV community is very unique vs. other gamers in a couple regards; (as a WoW vet of 16+ years, and an FFXIV player also) 1. They HATE spoilers!!! FFXIV players generally, in my experience will actively avoid anything that will spoil the MSQ until after they have completed it. Including watching even their favorite steamers or getting on RU-vid or even Twitter! 2. Once they have completed the MSQ, then they will actively watch others play it. I've found, that they get enjoyment from seeing others reactions to the story. Also, sometimes seeing others reactions to the MSQ is even more impactful because at times, the emotional impact is greater after you've let the story 'sink-in'. 3. A significant difference in the communities is that in WoW there is a PTR, players not only play PTR for testing purposes, they get in just to see what is coming from a lore perspective. Sites like Wowhead post nearly everything on WoW and datamine the shit out of it, and WoW players actively watch spoilers and, at least used to gobble-up Lore speculation like ravenous wolves! FFXIV does not have a PTR, nearly every aspect of the story is told in-game, so speculation is significantly smaller than in WoW. I don't need to expand on the lore part, we all know what I'm talking about 4. With that being said, WoW has always been significantly larger draw than FFXIV, even if FF is growing, it will never have nearly the viewership or creators that WoW has, because again, FFXIV players do not go to content for speculation, or PTR information, or anything that would spoil nearly any aspect of the game. Not to say that speculation does not exist, there are several great channels focused primarily on Lore and speculation, but if you compared WoW vs. FFXIV speculation, it is not even close to comparable. 5. WoW generates more money. Plain and simple. WoW also has the honor of being the first MMO to break into the 'mainstream'. Not to say Runescape and others were not great, but they were not the sensation that WoW was. I remember when WoW came out, it was insane and freaking awesome! FFXIV honestly had the worst possible debut and was an uphill battle from then on. 6. Square Enix and the Developers are very clear about and communicate to their players that they do not expect them to be actively subbed all the time. They encourage you to play other games when you feel you have completed the content you enjoy. I have found the biggest difference in general is most WoW players are WoW players and FFXIV players are just video gamers (not to say there are not allot of FFXIV players that only play FFXIV, however more FF players play other games and more WoW players only play WoW). I have found that when I played WoW, that was literally my only game since 2004 except when I was deployed to parts of the world with no internet!, and now, since playing FFXIV, I don't feel bad not logging in, I don't loose progression if I take a few weeks off. As an example, I have played FFXIV, Lost Ark, Crusader Kings III, Civ 6, Elden Ring, ESO since leaving WoW and am realizing how much more fun gaming I am having again. Just my observation and from speaking and learning from my Free Company, many FFXIV players are the same. --- I could write a Phd. Thesis on the differences in the communities and how the communities dictate how, why and how much the game is consumed media wise. I know from a very personal standpoint, that I only gave FFXIV a chance because Zach gave it a shot, and I was frustrated with WoW (and honestly had been for years). Now that I am part of the community, I have learned allot about what I want out of gaming. I have logged into WoW a couple of times, and each time I do, I am starkly reminded of why I don't really play anymore, other than grinding, their is no other, say 'evergreen' content to do. There could be physiological research papers dedicated to the WoW playerbase and Blizzard business model on things like addiction, addictive gameplay (skinner box), etc... Statistics do not always explain everything. I have found from personal experience that the community culture is the primary driving force behind a great deal of the differences at this point. IDK, maybe I'm completely wrong... actually, I'm prob wrong on allot, I'm just an old fart gamer... shit, I miss my Atari 2600 and Sega Genesis LOL
While I do agree speculation about the actual story after the story has been told is significantly smaller, the amount of speculation on what is going to come, well that is absolutely massive lmao. Everyone I know wants to take a good guess.
FFXIV is a story driven RPG first and foremost, while also being an MMO. It focuses on being the best RPG it can be, and considers how best to incorporate MMO necessities into that. People want to experience the story for themselves because it's so good, which is why they don't want it spoiled. This results in higher engagement in the game and lower viewership, people are experiencing it for themselves instead of watching someone else experience it. WoW is an MMO first and foremost, and the story... is there. No one REALLY cares about it, even if they do it's not told very well, and it's been retconned or simply ignored so many times it's hard to keep track of what the story is, so people have to find out from lore videos. Even if people are interested in the lore of WoW, it's become so convoluted that getting the full story from just the game is nearly impossible, especially with some of the lore being told in other forms of media.
@@Fndlord Yep! I love XIV. I used to play EQ2 a lot but still got hit with burn out and just didn't want to play the game which felt bad. It actually feels GOOD to play other games while putting xiv on the side. The game doesn't punish you for doing so.
He didn't necessarily start my interest, but it was very enjoyable to watch along through the story as he was only just a little ways behind me. Watching that welcome as he first walked up to the foundation to start Heavensward was a really neat experience. He made the game really fun for a bit, you're always welcome back Asmon!
I got into FFXIV around the time Asmon did, though the game itself quickly hooked me after that. It's basically one of the best RPG stories I've ever experienced, period. Maybe even the best, when taken as a whole through Endwalker. And I was someone who didn't give a single shit about JRPGs going in, and still largely doesn't aside from this game - even the other FF games. People who write it off as a "weeb game" are honestly only depriving themselves.
Played it for 3 years till shb. Found the story of the least interesting parts and hate forced msq. I loved it for the community. expansive crafting Jobs, glams , mounts etc.
@@garuda4361 Same here. I tried to play the story 3x and gave up everytime. And I'm a massive FF-fan but I just couldn't handle the story and earlygame of XIV. So when Endwalker was comming I got a boost and a storyskip and holy shiet did I enjoy that game. Nolifed it as hell and got 1k hours in it. Cleared the savage tier and found insanely funny ppl to raid with a similar attitude like me xD. Now I'm taking a break waiting for next content, but god did I have a fun time. Eventho the start has been rough (holy moly learning these combos man), but I'm gonna play this game forever FFXIV fans should be more open to people not loving "their" story so much, it's kinda funny how it's completely acceptable to not know your basic combo at lvl 90 but skipping the story is a massive nogo. If people enjoy the game with a skip, it's better as if they not enjoy the game at all. But overall a great game. And I'm slowly checking up on the story
I started XIV in September of 2020, and it gave me the ability to leave wow. I raided casually in Legion and enjoyed it. I raided Heroic in BfA and got burned out. I raided in classic and got burned out, and bullied away by my guild. XIV helped me accept that I'm just not that skilled, and I get hyper-competitive to compensate for my lack of skill. I burn myself out trying to be something I'm not, and wow was encouraging me to keep self-destructing. XIV gave me permission to calm down, savor the journey, and not feel like I had to do things I didn't want to. There's a Moogle event going on right now. I haven't touched it hardly at all. I don't want to grind dungeons right now. I'm allowed to not want to grind dungeons. I'm doing my beast tribes for old xpacs, and purple scrips to prep for 6.1 doh/dol pentamelding, and that's totally allowed. It's what I feel like working on, and so it's what I'm doing.
This post needs more likes - XIV is the mmo best suited for casual, low-stress play. Fun first, whatever that means for you! WoW had nothing for me because I'm not hyper competitive and didn't enjoy grinding dungeons and raids. Endgame for me was rep farming, get a few mounts and max pvp gear then I was out of content. 3 months tops and I'd quit for another year. Until I played FFXIV during WoD and discovered I want a variety of content for all types of players, hell I even do more dungeons and raids now as they are shorter and get me good rewards! Not being skilled at something with no real world application isn't anything to be ashamed about. It's not like anyone says "well, he has 3 phds, knows 4 languages and invented warp drive, but he is shit at WoW - what a loser" 😂 If everyone stopped gaming because they aren't good, the industry would take a nose dive. Wow is now a game of almost only elite players and those desperate to become elite players because of this. Games are meant to be fun first and foremost and there are many types of game catering to different types of 'fun'. If you are not having fun, don't play that game! Do what is fun, it's your free time. Maybe it's WoW, maybe it's FFXIV, maybe it's both or neither, maybe it's not mmos!
As someone that's a long time turbo nerd for FFXIV I really dislike the obnoxious extremists because while their the minority they sound so much louder amplified all the people just happily playing the game. As for Twitch I do think its due people not wanting to be spoiled for the story, the developers are encouraging of players to take breaks, the views have been spread heavily across twitch, youtube, and the Japanese site NicoNico, and in general people are just playing the game so they don't feel the need for streamers to frequently create their content. Overall I'm just happy to play FFXIV and that more people are too. I really wish the extremely loud extremists should calm down a bit though since it clearly causes an adverse effect.
So you're the type of person that lets people come into your house and shit on your carpet? Who actually cares if an E-Celebrity plays FF? The guy doesnt fucking care about the game or the community. He played it for content and he literally tells you that in your face. He plays games for content. Ginger Prime is a clickbait RU-vidr and is feeding into the false narrative that Asmon somehow made FFXIV popular and successful, and it being a good game is secondary to it gaining acclaim. Grow a fucking brain and stop letting people walk over you and opening people with wide arms when they clearly have personal agendas. They arent nice people, and if you were intelligent you'd understand who is genuine and who isnt.
Ironically enough, I had the opposite thing occur. Long time FFXIV fan, never heard of Asmon before he played it; but Once he started (and I then heard he was a big WoW streamer moving over) it got my interested in checking out his content (and Ive been enjoying it!). So glad though he has opened the eyes of other players to the wonder of what a good MMO can be. edit: 10:03 FFXIV is too story heavy for good streaming content imo.
Yeah, it's fun if you've finished the msq yourself and are watching streamers who are playing for the first time. It's definitely one of the games that does better on stream if the streamer is a couple of months behind the rest of the playerbase.
I had played ffxiv on and off since 2017. When asmon started playing it, I had like 20 days in total on 14 and like half the classes at 50 and yet I was still on ARR. When he started playing ffxiv, it got me back into the game and I finally beat ARR, and I've been hooked ever since then lmao
I started playing FFXIV when it re-released at the start of 2022, I got to experience it for the first time whilst watching alongside Asmon's content for the game. It was incredibly satisfying and I was kinda sad now that I'm at Stormblood that he stopped playing. Really excited for when he comes back
Ok, but just because he knows how to entertain people, doesnt mean he's suddenly an expert on the game and knows everything about it and its community. Grow a brain man. Celebrities have Charisma, but Charisma is not Intelligence.
@@cenciqt6045 Stop looking at everything as "hating" and "agree with me" and maybe you'll understand whats actually happening. This whole video is an ego boost clickbait nonsense topic. FFXIV did not become a better game because Asmon played it, and it wouldnt have become worse if he didnt play it. Asmon talks like he knows the FF community, calling us "Toxic positivity" and some kinda cultist bullshit. Brother, im debunking garbage thats coming out of his mouth, that doesnt make me a cultist. Seriously, this guy is literally a clown and weasels his words non-stop. The FF community doesnt need E-Celebs promoting the game.
I'll definitely admit he skyrocketed interest in the game, but it was also already skyrocketing on its own merits. I just hate when new players come into the pre-established places of the game and start acting like EVERYONE is from WoW and "gamerbro-ing" all over.
Asmon is an entertainer. he has Charisma and will use it to manipulate the narrative in his favor. Ginger Prime and his clickbait tabloid videos is only feeding into the false narrative. You have to understand that many many stupid people follow Asmongold and consume his content. Its viewer bias and his whole persona is being a skeptic and a weasel that doesnt give a shit if he's a hypocrite at all.
I didn't start playing final fantasy for asmon. My friend was already there. I started playing it because korthia made me want to die. With that said I love his content but I think people like to look at the numbers a bit too generally for this topic usually. But don't tell Asmon I like him feeling proud of himself.
@@jlScoot I mean it is just simple logic the biggest streamer tries out a game and because of his following the playbase increased. You don't discredit how the existing community appreciated Asmongold playing FFXIV to where Yoshi has even acknowledged him.
Good. Don’t give credit to this narcissistic homeless-looking guy. Final Fantasy XIV is a success because it’s story, great community and good content. Not because of Asmon. Frankly, I start to get tired of seeing his face 24/7 on youtube. Although I like his content, but too much is too much.
I was watching Work to Game b4 Asmon, and to be fare, Ginger was asking people how his community was taking Asmon's switch to FF. Most people said that he wouldn't like it (me included). Ginger was always saying we should be more welcoming and it literally couldn't hurt the game.
So you're the type of person that lets people come into your house and shit on your carpet? Who actually cares if an E-Celebrity plays FF? The guy doesnt fucking care about the game or the community. He played it for content and he literally tells you that in your face. He plays games for content. FF14 did not become a better game because Asmon played it. It was already a good game because of the devs hard work and the community giving feedback for years, BEFORE Asmon played FF. You should remember that. Ginger Prime is a clickbait RU-vidr and is feeding into the false narrative that Asmon somehow made FFXIV popular and successful, and it being a good game is secondary to it gaining acclaim. Grow a fucking brain and stop letting people walk over you and opening people with wide arms when they clearly have personal agendas. They arent nice people, and if you were intelligent you'd understand who is genuine and who isnt.
Asmon opened the door for me. I had a blast and the story was amazing. It has many faults but the story is not one. It is so far on another level to WoW or others that its not to be compared. I wont go back to WoW but they do do many things better. The UI, Launcher, Website and Glamour/Transmog system is awful in FFXIV. I hope they improve these things because I will be staying. It is super embarrassing to look at the faults in FFXIV as new people must be put off. I hope Asmon comes back as I would love to see him experience the story but it will be hard for him to play it all I think. Not very stream friendly in my eyes, but many have done it.
I wouldn't necessarily say the Glamour/Transmog system in FF14 is awful. In fact, I'd say it's quite good with the dye options and the vast amount of pieces from random sets that surprisingly work well together with other pieces you would never think would work. I will admit they need a better system for logging pieces you want to keep like WoW does where you can go to a Transmogrifier and all the pieces you've collected are instantly there without the need of having to save them in a dresser and take them out whenever you want to use them
But you can change the UI, ''hud layout'' it makes it a lot better. I mean yeah, a lot of its confusing at first. But I'll say about the transmog, that i like it a lot better in ffxiv, even tho there is not enough space for all the transmog.
So happy to see Preach doing so well, you could tell how apprehensive he was about the future when he quit WoW, but his FFXIV streams have been so good, he deserves the big numbers.
I used to hate Asmon because I thought he really was an asshole, I started to watch him out of curiosity a few months before he started playing FFXIV and learned he's not how he's portrayed by the weak journos and now I'm a big fan of Asmon.
Asmon is an asshole in the right way. He's telling the truth with no consideration of peoples stupid feelings whatsoever. I'm sick of people being fake because they're terrified of being negative towards something that clearly deserves it.
In regards to competition breeds excellence, it is 100 percent true. I never played WoW, but I have been watching from the outside looking in. Seeing them move with Cross Faction raiding and alleviating those boundaries and more account wide stuff to help the gameplay in their own way. I hope that the MMO space can start doing that of just taking ideas and changing them so they work in the context of their game. FFXIV, WoW, GW2, and all the other mmos out there are different games, but they work synonymous together in making each other better. This will help improve the MMO space significantly.
Thanks to madlad i decied to try ffxiv, got 2.6k hours now. As a former mythic raider and DnD player, both of end game and story interested me a lot. While i found end-game is very enjoyable, addictive and storyline was one of the best i ever played, my main shackle become social aspects of ffxiv. Found great friends, attend to parties, cafes and even opened our own nightclub, often time i found myself crowded with fc members, circling around a bonefire and talk hours till morning. It reminded me what makes mmorpg's so special to me. I become an adventurer again.
I started playing it when I saw him start the game and I loved it so much I have 100 days playtime over 11 months, so I gotta thank him for that. I had a choice between WoW and XIV
If you didn't know, the background music for his video is actually from FFXI, it's the song from the port town in the desert near Valkurm Dunes, called Selbina.
same i started a couple months before him and took a small break before he started playing because arr didn't really grab my interest. i probably never would've finished if it wasn't for the massive amount of streamers that started playing it.
I am very happy you gave the game a fair shot and even went through all of the story quests. It brought back the community to life during the content draught and a new wave of content creator for the game we will always welcome you back whenever you feel like playing again
I was gonna go back anyway for Endwalker, but watching Asmon and others stream it convinced me to start a new character and live the whole game all over again in preparation.
The biggest deterrent to me personally was the fact that today's gaming society tends to look at anyone who enjoys content that relates to anime or to a Japanese style of content in any way, shape or form as weebs that are deserving of hate just because they found enjoyment in a videogame or tv show. Luckily, I have stopped giving one about what others think about me and found ff14 to be one of my greatest videogame experiences EVER. I would highly recommend it to anyone thinking about trying it out.
I was really sceptical about trying another mmo after playing games like blade & soul and archeage unchained which were fun for a couple of months but died afterwards. Asmongold actually made me interested in playing ff XIV plus i was a fan already of the franchise but being a totally diferent genre and hearing about the disaster release, i lost contact with it. Thanks to him i gathered a couple of friends and we started playing non stop for the last year.
I think what he did for the game was great and hope he returns in the future. Been enjoying the Elden Ring content, but really hope he takes a break from Lost Arc cause that is not fun to watch.
i like to watch asmond play raids, cuz its very fun to watch the reactions and learning the mechanics, he makes it feel like i'm playing together with him. Very entertaining
I genuinely think there's no views in Twitch because there are literally people playing the game themselves and genuinely living and immersing themselves in a pretty realistic world. In Twitter, it just seems like a live extension with the community aside from the chat box in the game itself. It only makes sense to me.
I guess I tried it because of Asmon and being lonely due to covid. The free trial to level 60 is what actually made me choose FF14 over WOW pitiful level 20 free trial however. And the fact that controversy & how pitiful legion/bfa/shadewlands story was didn't make me second guess my choice...
I was always looking forward to your streams for Final Fantasy because I enjoyed watching your reaction to some of the stuff that I had forgotten about over the years. But whatever you do you man. Take all the time you want. Game still going to be there when you want to come back to it. I’m looking forward to 6.1 next week. I just hope the ques aren’t insanely bad like they were for the launch of 6.0. I think they’ve kind of gotten a little better with that so we’ll see.
I have been playing Genshin on and off since release. It is a great game, but I don't know how much Asmon would like playing it on stream. My greatest enjoyment in Genshin came from just exploring the world and not knowing what types of new enemies or puzzles I would find. Correct me if I am mistaken, but I think I recall Asmon saying during Elden Ring that he did not like that unguided/aimless aspect of the game for streaming purposes.
He doesn't really like to "look stupid" on twitch and having a bunch of people laughing about him. So games with no direction just stress him out more and he loses fun playing. But pretty sure he got used to Elden Ring faster than expected and enjoyed it a LOT.
Why in the fucking world asmon would play genshin its a gotcha game plus i dont think alot of is viewer would want to see him playing this game 🤦♂️but i get it you would want your favorite streamer playing your favorite game but i hope he never play that game on stream 🤦♂️
@@Thatguypat wtf is that comment 🤦♂️genshin is a solo rpg with fucking big p2w mechanic in it lost ark is a mmorpg that if you are a moron you gonna spend money to go faster 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Why arent you playing Lost Ark now tho and following your favorite E-Celebrity over to the game he's currently playing? Arent you supposed to jump on the bandwagon?
@@Goujiki So you really sit on Asmon videos spamming comments just trying to hate on Asmon or players enjoying his content in your freetime? That's hella sad man
I think many people forget why soda even got popular. Its always funny to see people asking of Soda is even good at wow. Who remembers his old streams of him harassing his parents?
Lore and glamour-focused FFXIV player, I wish I could have seen Asmon's first reactions to Warring Triad normal and extreme tbh. Sophia was one of the fights that drew me into the game after being surrounded by ugly and uncreative content for a while, and while I know the fight now holy hell did she kick my ass at first lmao. Also straight up, I think there's value in both the fight being visually interesting just from a cinematic standpoint and seeing players have unique experiences trying to figure fights out. The human experience of the fight is what makes it fun, whether things go well or badly.
Honestly it feels that way for pretty much every big streamer on Twitch, the chat always becomes really stupid. I can't say exactly why, but I think the scrolling Twitch Chat lends itself too well to drive-by shitposting and general "look at ME, streamer" type comments.
It's not allways that you can blame the streamer for that. A bunch of lonely ppl wanting the streamer attention, the behavior is not strange at all. Allthough you cant say Asmongold's chat are the best, it could be worse....i mean, it could be A LOT worse.
@@marcelobenattoferreira2998 I'm not blaming Asmon. And sure, it could be worse, but it's pretty fucking bad and needs to be said. If it isn't acknowledged it will never get better.
No matter how Asmon feels about the game now or how anyone in the community feels about him, Asmon playing FFXIV made summer of 2021 one of the best summers of my life. To see so many new players experience a game and community that I've loved for years was so fun and exciting. I loved Asmon's streams and getting to know so many other streamers and content creators through the exposure that XIV got. I'll never forget it. Thank you ! ♥
I wouldn't have played if Asmon, the funny WoW guy, wasn't able to try it and even enjoy it. I had friends who played it but I mever thought it would interest me, and wow I was totally wrong there. Thank you for helping the final push, bald platonic uncle.
I've stopped playing FFXIV for 3 years but back playing again because i saw Lord Asmongold playing the game and stopped again when Lord Asmongold did. The game itself is great but i feel so boring because i play alone. But playing it while watching Lord Asmongold played FFXIV, it felt that the game is way way greater than before, what most important and confusing for me is that even i played alone, i didn't feel the game is boring. That's how huge the AURA of Lord Asmongold can give impact to the game or any other MMORPG games. He really is ONE TRUE KING.
I'm sad that Asmon isn't going to try out GW2, but in the end that's his choice and I think the people who are interested in the game will check it out anyway.
Love Brian's content on Ginger and WTG. Glad you watched his vid and it was SUPER entertaining to watch you play FFXIV! Glad you gave it a chance. Love watching your content no matter the game! As long as you're flaming the chat lol.
That's why I like asmongold, he is himself, it has his boundaries. Like me, I'll never try wow, but sure as hell GW2 and FFXIV but that's it, I'm happy like that and if that applies to him too, that's awesome.
It's great to hear Asmongold humbling himself, even though his impact in the video game community, especially MMORPGs, undeniably brings in tidal waves of new players.
I straight up didn’t want to play 14 because I really didn’t like 11 when it came out. WoW was super boring at the time but I would play it out of routine. Then he tweeted that he was gonna play it. I figured what the heck I’ll try it too and ended up loving it. I started with the free trial out of skepticism, but I loved it so much I started my subscription before I was even level 30. Wouldn’t have gave it a chance if not for Asmon.
"those that don't want the leader role, thinking they don't deserve it, 100% of the time they deserve it, those that demand to be put in a leadership position never deserve it"
When I saw the Top Twitch channels by language it made me a bit sad that even with the hype these people barely got recognized. And then I realized I'm part of the problem because I am watching english streams only as a german lol
He made me want to play it but I waited and when Australians finally got servers I decided to give it a shot. I'm up to shadowbringers now and loved nearly every minute of it! (minus some stormblood lol) Watching his original streams gave me the confidence as a new player to go tank as well. The majority of people I've met have been very kind and patient in this game!!
Guild Wars 2 has some fun combat mechanics, but some of the most annoying jumping puzzles in any mmo ever. I have never been as pissed off as I was leaping from one ledge or platform to another 60+ feet in the air in GW2.
The whole video, I was fascinated at the console UI. It doesn’t seem that playing on console was a hindrance to the player’s performance. I’ve always wondered if playing on console was harder than playing on PC. But hearing that many JP players/raiders play on console. Then watching the gameplay in this video, it does seem as if playing on console isn’t a hindrance.
Been on console since Beta. Its easy and every job feels like a new playstyle (obviously). Also you can plug in a keyboard if you want PC settings. Im usually in bed playing lol
I played on console from the start and I prefer it. It has reached a bit of a bloat in terms of number of actions but I feel more comfortable in terms of movement and using actions on controller.
Not a hindrance at all. The default crosshotbar setup is very basic, but you just gotta customize it a little bit (no different than how the default m/kb hotbars kind of suck and most people customize them). Also learn your targeting options. Once you do that, not only is it not a hindrance, but there are many players who've switched from m/kb to controller because they actually played better on it. I should know - I'm one of them!
You can play in PC with Controller and on Console with Mouse and Keyboard. Platform does not matter. Controller is perfect for this game, if that is what you mean. They have won awards for the Cross Hotbar (Controller option) and they have not even patented the system even though they could, just for other MMORPGs to fully use it and progress the genre. One of the reasons all other MMORPGs suck so much. They don't even use a perfect system that is there that FINAL FANTASY XIV innovated for the whole industry.
I completed heavensward and like every other MMO I've played I realized my circumstances would always prevent me from doing more than sidequests and getting carried through the easy versions of all the raids. Everything I wanted to do would just be a chore for people who were further along that they're only there for to get some dailies done. Playing it isn't like watching someone play it. No one has time to sit in the raid and discuss your reaction to something you thought was cool or anything like that. I just can't play a game where I have to feel like a burden to everyone until I grind half a decade of content. Squeenix really did an awesome job with this game. I played it back when it first came out for a while and it was a night and day difference, but I still don't feel like I ever really found this "social" aspect of MMO's everyone talks about.
FFXIV trends on socials that allow images and memes..... and i think that is the main reason it pops off on twitter and reddit. But in game its all about role playing and the discords are pretty big too. Its not a particularly fun game to watch though (even during race to world first its just ok).... its more fun to play and talk about than to watch on stream.
As a relatively new FF14 player (milking the free trial for all it's worth) I avoid watching most related content on Twitch and RU-vid for one simple reason - spoilers. A friend of mine got me to start playing FF14 and I burned out on the ARR content a couple of times, so when Asmon started playing I watched his streams religiously right up until he got to the same point I was up to in the MSQ (~lv40 in Coerthas) at which point I stopped watching and started playing again. I do watch some FF14 content, but it's more general stuff like Zepla's "Housing Savage" video that has no relation to the story line.
I suppose the reason FFXIV trends on Twitter but not on Twitch is mainly because the players are just players, and not streamers. With other games like Fortnite, WoW and so on everyone is trying to do it as a job , ( wow less now I suppose ). And the FFXIV players are just happy to play in their free time and don't aspire at doing it "professionally" or as a job. Same thing with SWOTOR , there are always people playing the game , and the starting areas, and honestly pretty much all others are populated. Because people just play through the stories , which are arguably the best in the genre, for roleplay, or just because they love star wars and there's no other MMO to play like it.
I've said it to friends, Asmond isn't responsible but him joining was the tipping point. As a huge streamer like he is, he got eyeballs on the game, he showed people it was playable, and frankly I think he was the first genuinely entertaining high profile streamer to touch the game. FF14 has been building up a lot of steam, and with the current situation - beyond just it's surge on twitch there's also the plague trapping everyone in their homes for over a year and it's biggest competitor deciding to commit suicide - it's finally reaching critical mass.
I think most people don't watch FF on Twitch because of story spoilers and stuff. And as far as raiding content goes, WoW has the more enfranchised fanbase for that since it's been prevalent since the beginning of it's lifespan. Of course I don't know either of these things for sure, but that's what I reckon it is. I've personally played 8000+ hours of FF14 (playing since 2014) but barely ever watch it on Twitch because I have more fun playing the game than watching it. Some games just make better stream games and some don't, it is what it is.
I just got it yesterday today I'm making my character. I've gotten to the point in lost ark where I can basically do my dailies and then do the same on my alts n that's about it that doesn't require rng grinding or moko hunting lol so in my down time I'm gunna try it
Yes. I am so excited to watch you play FFXIV for only two things. The MSQ & Ultimates. I would be satisfied with only the MSQ as you are hilarious with the reactions you have instead of mine when I read it myself.
I mean people say ff is dead because its not on twitch, but no matter weather I long in at 2am or 6pm I have a que to get in and I’m not even on a popular server. It’s just a casual game
You were the catalyst for the growth, but you were not responsible for it. You have played many games and they all experienced a bump in players, but based on the numbers for games like New World, Valheim, etc., the game has to be able to stand on it's own to have true growth. You brought people to the table, but the food was good to begin with, so folks came back. Thanks for giving the game a shot.
I made the switch like two months before Asmon, because I was tired of Shadowlands and the guys at Bellular were making FFXIV seem so much more appealing. I'm glad I did, I just plain prefer how XIV plays once a job is at least level 70 or so.
the funny thing is that there is a part of the community that actually hate the fact that asmon was one of the major reasons the game was under the spotlight recently
Ff14 is nice, have a try on monster hunter world iceborn it's a nice game and you can do it all in solo play if you want. Your content is really good keep it up
Regarding the original claim - I'd say FFXIV definitely benefited from Asmongold's antics, but what's not talked enough about is that so did WoW. This abrupt mass exodus was exactly what the corporate types needed to start paying attention to their product after stagnating and slowly rotting away like 1980's USSR over the past decade. Now if only Bliz could clone YoshiP to nuke WoW from orbit and resurrect it from the ashes...
I began watching Asmongold around Legion time and played WoW a lot myself. I also played a lot of FFXIV before Asmon tried it but when he started playing I'd have to say my excitement for his streams were even better than before. When it comes to Lost Arc I have no interest in the game whatsoever for it's insane pay to win meta. I don't want to be dragged into a money spending spree just to feel relevant in game. The Elden Ring streams were a breath of fresh air and a welcomed break from Lost Arc in my opinion.
