@@DarrenOrson no it would have been a huge cliffhanger 3 is where it should have ended since they decided to kill of Desmond and basically end the Solar Flare plotline
The first 4 Assassin's Creed games are masterpieces of storytelling. I tear up the second I hear Ezio speak, it's like hearing an old lost friend talk once more..
I genuinely enjoy Valhalla and odyssey. I didn’t like origins. Here’s hoping Code Red will revive this series. As for Valhalla….. I just wish there was no collectibles they way the do I’m that game. It’s just… ridiculous. Like they have the story telling but the 300+ dots everytime I open my map makes my eyes bleed.
Sir, this right here, is one of the best pieces of AC lore on RU-vid ever. Thank you for your time and contributions to AC lore and history! (You’re really piquing my interest in looking wayyy deeper into this series.)
I haven’t been able to play the games past 3, so watching this is so enthralling. When I can I’ll get to playing mirage. This video has been a life saver for me lol. It’s really well done!
Caught an awkward glare laughing out loud when you paused during the Syndicate scene, to unpause, to then load up Peggle. Syndicate was... unique I suppose. I came for the refresher on AC's convoluted history, I stayed for the comedic touches. Thank you for the entertaining video brother.
I really don't like the direction the games have gone in over the last few years, but Valhalla's story, how it connects to the past/Isu and the modern day, is one of my favorite things from the last 10 years of this series. I get a lot of the criticism Valhalla gets and a lot of it is totally justified, but I still feel a little bad about it when people are bashing it for its story and dismissing that part of it too. But then again you need a lot of knowledge about the series to fully grasp it, and its spread a bit thin because the game is so long, but I really loved that part of it and kind of feel for the writers cause they did a good job, they were just put in a very difficult position. Also the video was great, really good recap
Completely with you on this. It does feel like many of Valhalla's genuinely incredible expansions to the universe were overshadowed by the (admittedly fatiguing) RPG-Creed tendencies that so many old school fans had grown tired of by 2020. If you were to siphon Valhalla's best narrative ideas into the structure of Brotherhood, or even Syndicate, it would be a very fondly remembered AC game.
yeah it definitely could be. really hope Mirage will at least deliver in the story department but im really anxious to get my hopes up. if it doesn't I guess im waiting for Hexe
IMO the story had its good moments but the whole thing in general is so bad. How many key points are there? Dealing with Kjotve, then going to England, then the guy revealing you the location of the message to zealots in the beginning, then nothing till you meet Fulke, you get the point The story would have been so much better if they didn't stuff it full of things that don't matter at all in the end and just kept it about Eivor, Sigurd, Basim and the Isu stuff. Imagine driving a race that has speed limits through 80% of it
Definitely agree that it would have been better then yeah, imagine if you had just the main story arcs and they used the extra budget that would give to make for example more mocapped cutscenes, the few that are in the game look great but they are so rare. A while ago i saw someone made 2 videos on Valhalla where he edited together the main story and left all irrelevant things/arcs out of it, and I ended up watching quite a bit of it because if presented that way, the story is so strong imo.
That AC4 ending tho!!!! I got so enough going to Edwards house in Syndicate. For as much as we like to dawg on current day AC….. they sure had some great story beats. Man I can’t wait for Mirage!
This right here is one of the best AC videos I've seen. I love this franchise, and I'm finally interested in what's about to come in modern day story for the first time since Syndicate (I hate the fact they ended Juno's storyline with a comic). Thank you man, I loved your voice and script :))
Great video, just one quick correction from an Odyssey fan, Kassandra doesn't need to kill Deimos, there are 5 possible endings, in one of them everyone lives and Deimos realizes he's been wrong and comes back to live with Myrrine, Nikolaos and Stentor, one big happy family.
Thank you! And you are right. I probably should have clarified why I chose only to explain the "bad ending". I follow Odyssey's novelisation because it's considered the "canon" version of events by Ubisoft - it's a straight-up retelling of Kassandra's journey with no modern day element, so no alternate Animus simulations. I always thought it was kind of odd that Ubi went the way of making the "true ending" something bleak as opposed to the more neutral/positive endings other RPGs often go for.
@@WalshieYT1Honestly I like when the canon ending isn't "And they all lived happily ever after". It just feels boring and it's massively overdone. Just as overdone as the assassin's family dying in the beginning of the game I guess lol
As big of a fan I am......it never crossed my mind that Layla was Eve. Honestly I thought that what Juno says at the end of Brotherhood and what Subject 16 says was a story that they ended up never telling and went with something else. That has really changed my perspective on the overarching narrative now. Kinda feel dumb that I never realized it.
They've retconned the story a dozen times. You shouldn't feel bad for misunderstanding anything. They killed off Juno in a comic book. This franchise storyline is a mess
@@bobafett8768 To be fair, that tends to happen with any long running series; Even masterpieces like Dark Souls have had plenty of retcons and changes to fit the current narrative.
@@bobafett8768- Agreed that it's been a MESS! 🙄 I really enjoyed the whole precursor story, and was excited to find out more about the origins of mankind, Adam & Eve, what Juno's plan was gonna be, etc. Then all of sudden... hardly any of it mattered anymore. I was SO disappointed they killed off Desmond. Cuz... why?? lol F*cking WHY did they need to do that?? What purpose does it serve?? I haven't liked a modern day protagonist as much as him ever since. It's been a mess indeed.
@dragonbornexpress5650 Yes stories do change over time but very rarely to this degree so quickly with so many entries, even star wars had more consistency in legends over 40 years than AC did in tye last 10 years
I think Ashraf had something to do with that back in Origins when we first got Layla. It's a shame that he turned out to be a major dickhead after Black Flag, Origins and Valhalla
I watch these timeline videos everytime you make them because I still adore this franchise despite it's problems over the years! As... long winded as Valhalla was... the ending absolutely blew my fucking mind as an old school fan! Mirage honestly made me feel like it was 2007 again & even had me watching the AC Movie & wishing for it's sequel!
Wow, thank you for your work. I didn't start playing AC until Origins. I just blindly accepted that I didn't know the previous history of the franchise. Seeing the mixed reviews between the new and old games made me want to know what I had missed. I've seen other "full timeline" videos and none of them were as clear and comprehensive as yours.
I just realized that mirage is "AC novice friendly". I mean like a gateway into the franchise. It's the 12 entry into this thing, yet you don't have to know any of this to enjoy it.
When looking at preview footage for your mirage vid, I hope you keep in mind the latest parkour snippet they just put out (on their twitter page, yesterday). The jumping animations are wayy faster and forward movement seems smoother than the previews, it seems like the YTbers played an older build of the game. Looking forward to your thoughts!
By far the Best Video of this kind Ever made, well done ! I watched it through in one sitting, you did great at connecting the dots and adding funny stuff. Excellent work.
Works cannot describe how much I appreciate this video Because I could not bring myself to finish Valhalla because it was so fucking long And now I can finally play Mirage which I was really excited for. Thanks man.
thank you for doing this. the other "recap" video i found went on about how this or that AC isn't a true AC worth the time and quickly skipped over that, which is itself completely counterproductive to the purpose i came to find a recap video for..... if people want to make a recap video, JUST MAKE A RECAP VIDEO and put aside your personal grievances with this or that game.
Thank you for your video. I had no idea how the series aged, i stopped playing AC after revelations. It's funny to see what started as a mysterious, subtle and dark plot evolved into pure SCI FI.
The whole "Lucy Stillman being a Templar" plotline never made sense in a way that was organic and complimentary to the writing and screenplay of AC1-AC Brotherhood. The only reason Lucy was killed off was because the actress, Kristen Bell, wanted more royalty payments for her role as Lucy, but Patrice Dessilet didn't want to pay her and in spite, killed off her character and made her a Templar.
Thanks for explaining the ending of Valhalla, I tried finishing that game but its just to meandering to get anywhere in its plot, so i just gave up and watched this instead.
That's *Loki* speaking. "Basim" was taken over by him long before Valhalla started. That's is plot we are going to see in Mirage, and my idea the Djinn entity is nothing more than Loki's consciousness and that Basim sees a 'monster' because he is unable to grasp its true nature.
@@abeaconintheoffice Turns out you were partially right: It was specifically the Loki side of Basim's memories, but took the form of a creature in his mind in order to control him through fear.
Epicness video but I need Walshie thoughts on all the new preview footage! I can't have an opinion on something unless my favorite AC RU-vidr does first :/
Should hopefully have something out this week. Just absorbing all of the reviews and their feedback so I can angle the most correct, upvotable opinion of all 🙏🙏
I had to scrap the vid but it would be a shame not to swap thoughts with my greatest ac youtube contemporary! To be honest, I wasn't really moved by any of the previews. I mostly felt affirmed in my expectations that Mirage is going to be a spiritual successor to Rogue; a counterfeit Assassin's Creed game cobbled together with the parts of its predecessor, whose mission statement was significantly more well-calibrated with its systems. I can already see certain fans flocking to Red on release and other fans doing the same with Hexe, lending to a narrative that Mirage is the "misunderstood one" in retrospective videos/posts/articles etc. Of course I'd like for the game to be good, but it just looks so, so, so mid lmao. The only "gameplay pillar" that looks markedly improved is stealth - a wider selection of tools and more reliable detection is a pretty undeniable win. Movement looks as sauceless as ever, though. I don't mean to be uncharitable, but movement speed has always felt like a pretty secondary issue when compared to actual articulation. I'd much sooner take side ejects, grab ledge and/or manual jump with Bayek's running speed than Mirage's compromise. Combat looks...questionable? I like what we'd been hearing about glass cannon combat and a return to "Kill, Run, Hide", but the combat doesn't look nearly difficult enough to encourage that. In the footage I've seen, yes, Basim does look fairly weak - in health and damage output - but his counterkills look far too effortless for their lethality. It's the narrative that actually has me kind of concerned. Majdoub really isn't doing it for me so far. Of course he could develop his performance in the direction of Valhalla's Basim, but man, I don't even see/hear a younger version of the character in performance/writing. Maybe Rota would've struggled to de-age his voice like RCS did with Ezio, but I would've happily forgiven his deep graveliness for a greater sense of consistency with his excellent performance in Valhalla. It's not just Majdoub either, it's Nehal's actress and her lack of chemistry with Majdoub. What we saw of the story just wasn't doing a lot for me. I reckon I'll probably play it, and then begin looking forward to Hexe. Hexe save 🙏🙏
The story became so convoluted by the end that I found it hard to follow or remember, even as someone who’s played all of the games and even read the books. I wish they did it differently.
I really hope future games use Watch_Dogs a bit more. Since they are connected games. The brotherhood know about Aiden Pierce. In the past, Ubisoft said they are not related, but Aiden kills Olivier Garneau, the CCO of Abstergo. In Black Flags, Garneau goes missing in Chicago. They also have Darcy in Legion. They are clearly connected.
I just started origins. Should I finish origins and go up the timeline or should I start from AC1 and work my way through all the way back around to origins? Pretty much my first time getting into assassin's Creed.
@@WalshieYT1 the problem is you need to be deep in ac fandom to understand some of it and the important informations about the story are often in side quests and documents
Can someone explain the whole Eve thing to me? Or link me a video to it? I've played all the games (minus Rogue), most of them I've played through at least twice but I haven't done a deep dive or study of what everything means. So what does Subject 16 mean when he's talking about "her" and her DNA and being the key? And how did Desmond fail Eve based on the ending of Valhalla? Any help or explanation would be greatly appreciated! :)
It's a prequel in the past sense since it's set during Basim's past before arriving in Norway (So we get to learn about the Baghdad branch), but is almost certainly a sequel present day wise since Basim is also a Sage, albeit not because of Juno's shenanigans, who was able to survive into the present day.
Wow! I knew that The Reader is Desmond in some form, but I never thought Layla is “Eve”. But it all makes sense now. Let’s hope Basim doesn’t turn out as a ultra-mega-villain-god that even Juno would be jealous of.
I don't think Basim is necessarily evil, though; Hell, maybe him exploring his memories in Mirage will cause him to reflect on everything he's done up to that point. One thing's for sure, though: He's not expressly evil, but he's also not a good guy; He just wants his family back and will do whatever it takes to do so, but he's also still against the Templars for obvious reasons.
You'd think so, but the writers went with the bleaker choice. Odyssey's novel isn't "choose your own adventure" in the vein of the game (that'd be quite a mess lol), and it confirms that things play out the way that I described.
Man the story in ac could’ve something so great ac laid out the perfect foundation of it mixing sci-fi with mythology with the apple just them to fuck it up hard 🤦🏿♂️
One thing that I find wierd about assassins is that their enemies ( I mean mainly the guards and soldiers) are often just hired people without deeper knowledge of the templars schemes, yet we slaughter legions of them XD
1:08:49 Lol that will never cease to be one of the funniest things in this franchise. Mainly because it did _not_ need to be this way. They could have written it to make Elyse, I don't know, François de la Serre's niece or something. Literally _anything_ other than his daughter, therefore not making her Arno's adoptive _sister_ by proxy. It's like, we did not need to know that the main writer had a fetish. It's like learning of Leon Kennedy's Asian fetish. Like _WHY_ !? No judgment of course, but is very funny. Edit: 1:55:41 woao! I never considered that Layla was Eve. The Reader of the Calculation was clearly Desmond (if anything having the same voice was a dead giveaway) but I never put two and two together. Edit 2: 1:57:12 That's totally where we are headed. "Mirage" hasn't come out as of the time of this comment, but it's not difficult to anticipate that will be the new plot. Loki is going to usher in a new iteration of The Instruments of the First Will whose sole goal will be a 'restoration' of the Isu ruling, now under his and Aletheia's control, and will try to enslave humanity again. Assassins and Templar will be forced to put aside their differences to face this new threat together.
On the other hand, it's possible that Basim's exploration of his memories will cause him to reflect on everything he's done up to this point, or at least allow Loki to get some degree of insight as to what he did. Edit: Wow, did this age poorly; Don't even know who's in the Animus for Mirage since all we hear talk is William Miles.
Basim is technically the protagonist in both eras given his fate in Valhalla, so it'll really be the first time in the entire series where the protagonist of the present day is literally the same as the protagonist in the past, which could result in some nice character development. No idea for the other projects, though; That is entirely up in the air aside from context clues in both Red and Hexe. ( Former moreso than the latter. Also, Jade is confirmed to have a custom character so I'm not counting it.) We know we're gonna be playing as a Shinobi in Red, but the interesting thing is that the Shinobi weren't strictly about killing: More like a Feudal Japanese equivalent to intelligence agencies like the CIA, but independent of any government or group; You pay them enough and they can give you any sort of advantage you want: Politically, economically, socially, you name it. There were also known cases in Feudal Japan of Samurai taking on the occupation of a Shinobi because of the fact that Samurai was a social class, but Shinobi was an occupation; A job. As for modern day protagonists of those games, who the fuck knows? Maybe it'll be Basim again via some shenanigans, or we'll have completely new protagonists.
@@kermut They might; After all, he's a Sage in the modern day that has zero interest in working for the Templars for obvious reasons, so I don't think they'll pull a Juno on him. Time will tell either way; Perhaps him reliving his own memories in Mirage will be a good moment of reflection for him.
Yes. 1: He killed a Templar priest for simply being in the way even though the priest had no intentions of fighting back. 2: He attacked a high ranking Templar where everyone could see. 3: He ended up accidentally leading the Templars to Masyaf, which was the regional stronghold of the Assassins; By doing so, he ended up putting the Assassins in danger of extermination.
WAIT BRO NO WAY LAYLA IS EVE???? ALL THESE TIMES I'VE REPLAYED THE EZIO TRILOGY WONDERING WHEN THEY WOULD CLOSE THAT THREAD???? I'VE EVEN PLAYED VALHALLA FFS AND IMMEDIATELY CLOCKED WHO THE READER IS AND STILL DIDN'T PUT IT TOGETHER
Alexios dying is canon cuz I was able to recruit him to the good side in my play through so it makes way more sense than him dying like I literally understood him and that’s y I used talk no jutsu on him, if he dies in canon that’s just ass
