Assetto Corsa 2 is Coming!... But there's an Issue 

Some people can’t afford pc’s. It does need open world maps.

@@Carsforlife_ This studio isnt big enough to support a open world and close circuit tracks especially as everything is laserscanned, dont set yourself up for disappointment.

@@darkmist977Assetto Corsa literally has open world maps created by modders. As he said, make the base game good and let the modders do their thing

​@@reececox19 I still think having an open world world is kind of odd for a sim racing title like this. I guess if they had some smaller cruising maps it would be cool otherwise it doesn't feel like it would fit the game

Ain’t no mods on console

doubt they are going to top the original but i guess we are doing to have to wait.

@@theroach2204it wasn't Kunos that made the game so awesome, sure it was good, but it was the modders/community, and surely they're making this game with them in mind

They ditched ray traced reflections when competizione released and never implemented it years later I'm confident there will never be any ray tracing tech but as long as there are mod tools I'm fine with that.

@@marzbee115 that was specifically because of performance reasons. Unreal was already poorly suited for the game and didn't run very well anyway. It's raytracing implementation is also very heavy. As this is back to a simpler, lighter, in house engine I would expect it runs a lot better than UE4. There's the performance overhead for raytracing if they (or modders) ever decided to add it, but I wouldn't expect it for launch or anything.

Kunos showed us Raytraced Pictures of ACC by the release of the RTX Cards.... Lol never happens... never release....just advise. Also no real commet from Devlopers. Just a lieing advise. Be carefull what Kunos Promis

Exactly, they know that mods are what made the OG AC such a great game, and why so many of us got ACC, tried it, realized we couldn't mod it, and didn't like the game on UE4 anyways, and went back to the OG AC. So the devs are reviving and overhauling the original Kunos Engine to bring it up to modern standards, perhaps using what they learned by making ACC on UE4, and implementing ideas that come from that to make the Kunos Engine even better than it was back in 2014. The 2024 Kunos Engine will be a force to be reckoned with for sim racing, I bet.

@@Avetho I doubt it will be that easy to port those mods into the new engine.

@@thatfunnykekguy6377 Oh for sure, the modders will have their work cut out for them, but at least it ought to be made easier for them if Kunos compiles a better modding pipeline document to package with the game. The original AC has that PDF file in the directory that you can look at for some insight into modding, I've gotten a lot of use out of it in making my magical supersonic Eldorado mod, especially for getting just enough to learn how to do the custom interior stuff, but it was hard. Thinking about it, I should really update my Redline Trans-Am mod by actually making the body true to the movie instead of bone stock, but I can't gather the motivation to open up Blender again, its too daunting for a first foray into graphic design :P

nobody is porting stuff from forza lol everyone ports stuff from Gran turismo

​@@AirborneJobanGran turismo suck, its an arcade game, not a simulator no feeling at all 😂

I will. Prayers to you!

modding can turn a 2 year game into a 10+ year game.

@@alienfac32arma is an example

Because no sim racing game is open World and WE want to play an open World Map on a simracing game and not an arcade game

​@@PeperLuigibeamng drive

@@averagecarenjoyer yeah but only beamng no other

@@averagecarenjoyer beamng is boring

i hope ac evo will have car customization or else it's boring.

That all? 😁😂

@@BlackPanthaa I mean I like cm but it can be a absolute pain at times with something like the search feature I hope they can come up with a better ui then something like forza. I prob dont need to mention the way cars react to bumps in ac I prob have more time spent in the air than the ground in that game.

@@casgarr1mt466 I'd be happy to see some livery editor too. And an ability to have "your own car" in the game instead of having to download mods all the time to be able to join servers or taking the ones that server owner chose from the original packs. Also some multiplayer online racing, without needing to join a discord league lol.

@@SHIZURAKU Meh I perfer the photoshop approach it just works better for me.For the "your own car" thing Its possible but it would be laggy It should prob be a toggle thing bc it could mess up people who are already racing and dont have the car thats joining downloaded. Proper multiplayer should come with the new game as it would'nt make sense for devs to not implement them

​@@casgarr1mt466I agree, going over bumps in AC is terrible. Infact, the suspension model is so ass that most of the rally maps have to be flat to make the physics seem believable. It has a weird twitch with landing jumps and collisions (wall, car or object).

Just hoping they fix this in ACE. My dream is that they do it like in BeamNG, where most of the car is simulated by physics.

you're complaining about implementation deficiencies in a sim that is more than 10 years old in a thread about a new version of the game. Do you imagine that they aren't going to fix those things when every other competing title already has? What purpose do you suppose releasing a new version of a game serves, if not to correct shortcomings like those?

@@samgendler You expect too much. AC1 has the biggest modding community in racing sims. Problem with AC1 on the mod side is if you had a suspension engineer start to mod they will be WTF is this, why can’t I do this, etc. It’s gamer friendly to mod, basically cheat physics to compensate the lack of realistic geometry. You will set up the AC1 car VERY different from a formula drift car. In example I can make a car IRL on slight compression gain positive camber a little, and on heavy compression gain negative camber a lot both on compression because there are two A arms with different angles and lengths IRL. But in AC1 I need to run negative outside and positive inside cambers for optimal grip because the camber gain will be linear. I basically need to pull of a Nascar camber setup to drift faster to compensate the lack of suspension geometry in-game. It’s not just tire deformation physics the whole camber angle is wrong, and even ingame ironically negative adjusts to positive the way it’s written. Same with gamers who just play: F1 I can’t adjust the knuckles steering arm in game to toe out less on turns so the inside wheel doesn’t scrub at faster speed turns. In game I can’t change the center differential torque split to make a AWD rally car drift easier on some tracks I’d have to change the car or modify other parts of the suspension to partially compensate. In game I can’t adjust the caster angle so if the track is faster I’m compensating it with camber and loosing inside tire grip, and also the rear feels floaty because lack of geometry I mentioned earlier. It’s mod friendly for gamers, but it’s VERY limited for engineers and IRL race car drivers. Will AC2 choose game engine simplicity with cheat physics to lessen processor requirement, or do what Beam NG did and require more processor computer spec, and then old mods won’t port over smoothly, so you either have the same game with a new price tag, or a new game with extra steps needed to transfer over car mods. Again you expect too much. If AC2 doesn’t fix suspension geometry to remove cheat physics it will likely divide its own community.

​@@nickduplaga507you expect too little

@@poo48 ACC already split the AC community for a cash grab. Forza, F1, and WRC are cash grabbing almost yearly, diving their community yearly, masked by a grind gameplay that the AC1 community would hate, so unless you are already an XBox / PS controller user I’m sure you won’t want a AC community split. AC1 already has a small community, and having it split would be similar of how WDTS released a new drift car pack, and people stopped playing WDTS altogether. Or North Course 3rd version and people played all version less. So there better be a good reason for upgrading into AC2 and for me personally that would only be an actually realistic suspension model, not 5 games later but next because if the community gets any more diluted then AC would need to become a xbox / ps controller game which I’m sure you don’t care because you probably play plenty of those to be all-right with this much development. AC2 with SOL weather, and CSP lights mods may as well be AC1 with a free DLC because it won’t sell in AC1 as it’s already a free mod. I haven’t yet seen anything amazing. Tire physics didn’t seem to work well in ACC because cars drifting enter ice mode magically, and they released ACC that way, so you expect too much. AC1 community migrated from RF2, so don’t be surprised when AC migrated into Beam NG if they fail making a significant improvement without downsides.

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At least make these like an extreme graphics preset or something while making every other preset more sensible fidelity wise (or add a very low preset with the equivalent of asseto corsa 1 medium or low graphics)

@@marlibeshaj1069 Unfortunately, you cannot always scale things down; to this date it's pretty tough to run VR in ACC for this very reason. And I suspect that this has a lot to do with iRacing's success too.

The recommended requirements are extremely conservative. There's great attention to detail in the assets but the tech here isn't groundbreaking. You have nothing to worry about. That being said, a lot of stuff like higher shadow/texture resolutions, raytracing, LOD distances, etc can all be scaled or disabled with no negative impact on users that want lower settings.

Hell yeah

Public mods really are lacking and for the most part garbage, but some private mods on AC are insanely good. I don't think people realize just how good AC1 physics is because all the extremely realistic mods are kept private. ACE will likely be the same, public mods will be mostly garbage and anything decent won't be shared outside private teams and groups.

​@@excite.wintersYeah i have to agree... Paid mods on patreon and stuff are top notch in terms of physics and everything.... If you look hard enough there are also free mods on patreon which are actually consistently supported

@@HriataKC Patreon mods aren't private, they're just behind a paywall. I mean private physics teams use and dont share with anyone😅

@@excite.winters ahh good to know... Do they leak their mods sometimes?

@@HriataKC not any that I know of, most are teams that are part of the irl pro / semi-pro scene and have mechanical engineers working on their physics.

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Own engine = modding possibility

steam workshop is one hell of a nightmare

@@poo48 i haven't had problems

@@speedhunter7156 dont forget that steam workshop files are prob harder to modify,(upon installation of mods, you cannot configure what to download and what not to) compared to a zip file where you can drag and drop the files you need

NightRunners?

Yeah, I just had a look and it looks worthy to be tested mate, but I've forgotten to mention consoles. It's too expensive these days to run a good performing PC ...

forza exists for that

Well, it does, but if you prefer PS, it doesn't, and, as far as FH4 was really cool, FH5, not so much. Before somebody says TC2/Motorfest yeah but TC2 car behaviour/handling is horrendous and Motorfest hmmm small map, but expansion is coming we will see how it goes, sooooo thats why TDUSC hopefully will be more like it, for example, even if it was only a DEMO that map is impressive ...

Tdusc lmao, comparing AC to that crap is an insult

Still exists and is a lot better now, it's called CM showroom. Most people know it exists but just don't use it.

@@ricardofrancisco7684 As in the name, CM Showroom is not from AC. It comes from CM(Custom Manager)... And I think a lot of people use it

Maybe Constipated. xD^^

You do know you can change the camera angle ingame setting in gran turismo 7

@@olavofernandes7286its still fixed to the car, in forza chase camera has a little swivel when turning

I hated the first ac. Handling wad god awful

@@olavofernandes7286 yes but look at ACs Kirby Cam....if they add that type to AC Evo it'll be good imo

@@nikolaig1the first AC is probably, most likely, positively, 100%, the best handling game of all time

Not going to happen

Will never happen, because then the developers become liable for copyright infringement and have to moderate anyone adding unlicensed cars and content to their game. If you just let people mod and share their mods via third-party platforms then you don't have those responsibilities. It basically becomes beam or carx then with "knock-off" versions of real cars.

Probably wont happen because the owners of the game would have to check every mod individually and besides modders wouldn't be allowed to make car mods of brands the owners didn't talk with. The mods being unofficial is what makes mods great because of the freedom people have

@@Gearshifted526 probably not but would be cool

@@KompadoodleLEL i mean yeah i wish it was possible, would be cool for console players to enjoy the game at its fullest

oh yes.. day night cycles, weather, rain.. driver swap. They better get a copy to Gamermuscle before they even think about releasing an early access version because James will rip it to shreads.. and I love that guy.. haha..

ACC had no mods because they were going for an esports title, had nothing to do with regretting making AC1 moddable. AC1 was just a sandbox.

@@carsonw722 see I bought that bs too, but they never really did push that hard into esports, even still to this day

@@fillman86 yeah but it's an officially licensed game by multiple irl racing series. You can't allow mods with something like that. It doesn't need mods anyway, it does what it's meant to do and it does it well, which is GT racing.

ACC is licensed by SRO, which is an official racing series. Of course it is not going to be moddable, you even have a hard time making personal liveries. And yes esports are still a thing in Acc

@@lor7780 both AC and the new one also have licences. It really does seem like you're huffing the copium hard

Disagree. There is a lot they could improve 10 years after the original AC physics wise. Suspension in the original AC, while good, is very much dated compared to newer sims out there. Tire models have taken a huge leap as well (although which one is the best is a different debate entirely). Rain could also be improved. CSP's version is nice but it has nothing on the likes of iRacing's Tempest system. They could also take a look at having more detailed track evolution like Automobilista 2, where gravel from off tracks or oil from crashes/mechanical failures can affect track grip.

@@MoptopTofer I can't believe you want Assetto Corsa Evo to be more arcadey than the original Assetto Corsa.

@@TiagoMorbusSa LMAO now you're just putting words in my mouth. When did I say that? I said they could do a lot to make it more of a sim.

@@MoptopTofer you literally said "disagree"

@@TiagoMorbusSa I disagreed with the sentiment that they don't need to change much in this next game, not that they should keep it a sim. It should 100% stay a pure sim. You read one word and ignored everything else, which shows me your reading comprehension is lacking.

Are you sure you're not just confusing CM functionality? You can currently get in and out of cars and walk around in AC via functionality added in with CM. Never heard of a "secret dev version" being leaked.

What is the hype for this? Cause all those cars are too unrealistic, it's not very fun after an hour of looking the same scenery, there's nothing to improve. And like I said all the cars are so unrealistic to the point that every car feels like the same car

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