How I Lost Faith in My Favourite Game (GT Critique Complete Series) 

Note: For those who’ve seen the individual videos already, here’s what’s new: Brand new introduction for the series, re-edited in quite a few places to improve quality (especially the first few videos when ya boi didn’t know how to keep a consistent aspect ratio) and to make it work as one continuous video, use of higher quality clips as well as additional joke edits, and the all-new ending credits sequence. See if you can spot all the changes! This should go without saying but a few things in here are now dated (GT Sophy, engine swaps, etc) but I still think it’s important to remember that at a certain point in time this was the exact situation for players in GT7 and overall my points are still relevant. I don’t know why I’m even mentioning this because I’ll still get comments about it anyway. Bruh.

I love realistic economies in games so i can experience being poor not only in real life but in my empty game too

It's so incredibly confusing how they're able to make *everything* you do feel completely pointless

I think the way they ruined car collecting has gotta be my biggest complaint. It's like they concentrated way too much on car values and trying to replicate the real world car market, and completely forgot about why people enjoy collecting cars in games in the first place. We don't do it because we enjoy trying to collect a ton of virtual currency and spend it, we do it because we want to check out and drive a wide variety of cars. When lots of cars are basically locked behind unobtainable goals, it really ruins our ability to enjoy what the game could have to offer.

You're exactly what the GT community needs mate! Polyphony should be taking notes.

That title could perfectly explain my feelings for forza. Its awful that two of the biggest competing franchises in this genre have both fallen to a similar state.

If GT7 was named correctly for what it is (GT Sport 2 or GT Sport A-Spec) then I don't believe the game would receive so much hate. It was marketed as a nostalgia next-gen built from the ground up game. It's been far from any of this 😔

Ever since the algorithm showed me this channel, day after day i am amazed that you are not like, a 100k plus content creator. these are genuinely amazing videos

For a man who loves staring at the possible future, Kaz sure is short sighted

I wish PD put more effort into GT7 than you into this one single video You truly deserve all gold licenses in Coffe Breaks

Everyone at Polyphony & those at Sony involved with GT7 game development should be forced to sit & watch this & then explain WHAT HAPPENED! Hats off to you my friend for this & all your great videos

The most baffling thing is that, they HAVE the tools to make this the best GT game ever! Adding a proper career mode is a start, and just imagine the endurance races with real time day/night cycle and weather changes.

Damn, I should have watched this before I bought my PS5 and GT7. I could have saved ~600€.

GT4 is my favorite. So much awesome content all throughout. The challenges, license tests, coffee breaks, endurance races, special events, manufacturer specific races, and the beginner and expert leagues. There’s unique parts with the tuner specific brands, including full models, so many cool cars, great physics, and full fledged tuning. It’s just the best!

Especially the point towards the end about Kaz wanting to add suvs to the game rings true to me. I remember when in one update to GT Sport a Ford F150 Raptor was added and the damn thing would start appearing in races among proper sports cars and just keeping up with them. That completely broke my immersion.

Seriously, this channel is a hidden freaking gem. Don't stop making creating videos. You're a natural storyteller.

>Got home from work >New video uploaded >It’s 3 hours long >Save it for tomorrow Keep up the great work! Can’t wait to watch

I love how I can watch literally hours of your rants against GT issues and agree with EVERY SINGLE ONE of them

All this game needed was a proper fun career mode.

The world of single player in GT7 looks like the world of some random royal prince that wants to race and all of its subjects hes racing with wants him to win at all cost.

I'M LOSING MY FAVOURITE GAME YOU'RE LOSING YOUR MIND AGAIN I'M LOSING MY BABY, LOSING MY FAVOURITE GAME

About the AI, If I remember correctly Kaz actually wanted to ditch single player for a long time. I believe Sony forces them to have something otherwise noone would buy it, and at best PD half-asses it, and at worst they actively sabotage it. The artificial pace slowing clock is a hint I believe. Like, you programmed it to be better than this, why would you deliberately rubberband it to go slower and extend the grid to make it at best underwhelming and at worst encouraging you to turn your Gr. 3 to a lawnmower.

The most infuriating thing is that a lot of these issues are prevalent for no literal reason. They don't even make sense in the context of realism OR being catered to multiplayer.

3 and a half hours absolutely OBLITERATING Polyphony

The Real Driving Simulator has turned into The Mediocre Racing Simulator.

Predetermined roulette tickets are very clever, because this way you can’t just reload a savefile till you get what you want Although what it is predetermined to pick should be more random than 2% for a car

This series has been incredible. Your critique on Gran Turismo 7 highlights my gripes on modern racing games as a whole; they always have one downside that ruins the game for me. It is honestly so depressing to see AAA developers in the racing genre to not even try to make a good racing game anymore. It's just "pHySiCs AnD gRaPhIcS" and that's it. This is insulting. Ever since I played Gran Turismo 4 when I was 8-years-old, it capture me into the world of cars and video games. Learning different car brands and their nationality, how cars work and how to drive them. It all return back to Gran Turismo 4. If it wasn't for GT4, I wouldn't be playing video games right now, but seeing the industry and their communities nowadays, I'm not even sure I would want to continue playing games. ==OFFTOPIC== I've always dreamt of making my own racing game; one that combines many features from many fan favourites into one package. I've been debating that if I can do this, but after seeing the state of the racing genre, I figure I might as well as do it now. Yours, Raycevick's, Kacey's and Ultra Violet's critiques on modern racing games motivates me to try out this project. I know it will be a daunting task, but I will try to make this dream a reality. Even if it takes me months, years or even a decade, I will finish my dream game. --Sorry if this comes off as cringy--

Suddenly i think that no one at Polyphony asked themselves during development of the game a simple question...: "Why?"

I completely agree and it breaks my heart and yet I still play it every night and enjoy it lol

Unbelievably great video about GT7 I have similar back story growing up liking cars due to GT3/4 and GT7 does feel so detached from what made Gran Turismo so special :(

I watched the whole thing while doing license test in GT4. Stopped playing Gran Turismo at 5 and from the looks of things I made a smart call.

without watching the video yet... I thought this game wasn't 100% it, but i played it and had about 17.5M credits, so i could buy the cars that would come with an update. My 15 year old son decided it would be a great idea to spend all those credits on clapped out AMG's, Golfs and other stupid cars. I ended up with 15.154 credits left. and now, it is so incredible hard to get some money back it is no fun at all... The game is about driving unachievable dream cars, which you just can't achieve in-game either.

The Clubman Cup are what the AI and races in solo should be... - They are the ONLY races that offer a real potential challenge. (I won them all first try except the Mini, and each one had me really working to nail my laps and passes)

1:53:08 "Ambient music doesn't work well in a racing game." *cries in NFS Undercover garage soundtrack* (aka one of the few good things about that game)

nice to see the full compilation of all the videos together its one of the only good series that i've followed in a long time, looking forward to see whats coming next

How to fix Gran Turismo 7 (and how it should have been launched). Take what there already is, add a few more high credit races, give you more freedom with the opening car choice, and change the single player. The game should have had standard championships like those in the previous GT games, and add the menu books as an additional side objective that you can do if you want an easier time, or are just learning how GT works. The dealerships should change the old way, after each event, and the cars should have a standard price. They should not ever reach up to 20,000,000, it's ridiculous, and any cars that are incredibly expensive should have their own races.

God yes... a 3hr video vindicating my thoughts on GT7 while I play GT6 Spec II :) You should try it, it's GT6 with seasonals, GT4 missions, and a ton of events from the older games added. So much I feel like its enough entertainment until PD pulls their finger out and starts listening

Gt2 was hands down the best driving experience as far as the selection and what's compatible with different events

3:12:30 "I think a game which functions as a virtual car museum, is probably what they're aiming for. So why not lean into that more?" That got me thinking. Instead of it being some random cafe the player is taking pretty pictures of cars for. (At the expense of their own wallet, no less.) What if the game framed the player as the co-owner of an automotive museum? (Alongside a character who helps to guide new players.) And you race for the sake of promoting the museum. And instead of the linear menu books that straight up give you the cars needed by just playing specific events tied to them. All to just take a picture of them... The museum would of course want cars to put up on display. And so like the menu books, you'd have a set of cars to get ahold of. Except you would have multiple of these sets available at any given time, and how you acquire the needed cars is up to you. Wether that is buying them from a dealer, winning them as a price car, or even going to an auction for rare cars. Some of these sets could also just have requirements that the cars have to fulfill, instead of specific cars. Such as "4 modern hot hatches" or "2 hyper cars". And as you complete these sets, the museum "levels up", and gives you access to new sets to complete for the museum. As well as extra rewards, such as money, a price car, etc. And completing a lot of sets that involve specific manufacturers, could also be how you unlock their invites. If one were to have that mechanic in the game still. One could even have a set with no restrictions, were a player can show off some of their cars to other players when they look at one's profile/museum. Then near the end of the campaign, there could even be a large championship that would be held by the museum. Like a final challenge! I think this would be a lot more fun and engaging for the players. Since they would have a ton more choice about how to go through the game's campaign. And without changing that whole "virtual car museum" idea that GT's director seemed so focused on for GT7. Because the game would straight up be about a car museum, and how that affects the reason for the player to go through the game's various races. This of course doesn't touch the ai, the fact a lot of cars are pointless within the game, the lack of event variety. But when it comes to the campaign's basis, this honestly sounds much more interesting and fun, than just grinding through menu books and watching cutscenes were character's I don't care about ramble on and on about history... Also I have never played any GT before. I used to be much more of a Forza player, but then FH4 happened... But I still hope these ideas of mine still sound interesting to the GT community.

I love the gran turismo series. You were right about some of the points in the video about wanting to be wrong about the future of GT - wanting to be proven wrong etc. The recent change in allowing Engine swaps and the ultimate tuning shop is a small grain of change that reduces the toxicity of the spins and makes the game better. It’s a heavy dose of copium but I do think PD just might have realised the colossal direction change required, at the very least they know they can’t do this again. Great Video so far! Love the long form content!

I haven't lost it, I just dove back into gt1 jp '97 emulated at 60fps with boosted res, and widescreen option and it's pure joy to relive this gem

holy fuck for a moment i thought this was a brand new video, i thought you lost it lmao

I don't know why, but most fun in multiplayer for me were shuffle races from GT5. God, I miss them so much, so many random cars to drive, total chaos in lobbies, so much fun, unlike the "real-life racing" that is Sports mode. I miss that kind of fun modes in racing games overall.

Not even an hour into this it's utterly hilarious how GT7 is built

Looks like my next GT game is buying GT3 again

I think I could blame microtransaction focusing on just about every complaint you and I have with GT7. Also this is a fantastic video. "Well said", as it were.

when you discussed the feeling of your first gt car, I felt that. I just started playing gt2. picked a Toyota Celica. I just know that car is gonna be special to me forever

I grew up on GT5 then moved to GT6 when I was collecting ps3 games years later then moved on to sport and my experience was amazing, GT7 feels like a mental flashbang to all of those memories and feels like logging on to work after I’ve gotten done with my actual job for the day

Just when we thought it's over, he came back again ❤

The fact that a Video like this was necessary says it all :( great Work man, Hope GT finds back someday, to its better form

i watched this 4 or 5 times now and my last playstation was the ps2 with gt4. Great video. great entertainment to have in the background for anything

I will make it simple.... The suspension tuning makes the front tires lock and not turn in a sharp corner or in angle, and lobby servers are extremely laggy and not reliable leading to eventually game crashing like a cheap game from PC

You've gained a subscriber, this is an exceptionally well thought out and well made video. You've captured everything wrong with GT7 (and there's a lot) and also captured things I knew were bad but couldn't quite put my finger on or articulate. It's just a shame it will all fall on deaf ears and Polyphony will do absolutely nothing to look after its loyal fans.

In my opinion Forza Motorsport 4 had the perfect balance of fun and prestige. The cars were celebrated beautifully but still came across as epic, rather than pretentious. Same goes for the music. The campaign, while not quite as deep as previous entries, was well paced and offered engine AND drivetrain swaps. Nothing was locked behind a weird wall and cars and money was constantly thrown at you.

Kaz saying that the cars reflect real-world prices is insane. An SLR McLaren is £280,000... not £600,000 lol

All Videos in 1 RoflWaffle: Im GENIOUS

Oh my god, as someone who has played Gran Turismo their entire lives and played a ton of each of the games, this whole video perfectly encapsulates all of the issues (and more) that Gran Turismo today suffers from and exactly how I feel about it and how frustrated I am. You even thought of the same ideas I’ve had for solving the issues and more, this is an amazing video. I don’t understand what is going through Polyphony heads because it honestly just seems like they forgot how to make a game that’s fun and engaging since Sport, and as well as the issues like AI that have plagued the series for like 15 years now

This is probably the best RU-vid series I've ever watched. Awesome video!

I feel the big thing that would fix a lot of problems would to bring back the manufacturer events. It felt cool to discover a certain brand and it's model and get THAT old, rare and unpurchasable car. It gives value to these random cars you win

Something Forza nailed was the paint and livery editing.

Amazing work ! 🎯 Now doing a GT4 playtrough and GT7 is a vacuous shell of its former self (just like 6 and Sport). I think it's not only racing games, past 10 years everything in gaming is dumbed down, made fool proof with retardated HUD's and objective markers removing any sense of independent exploration and accomplishment, all aiming to appeal to the most common denominator thereby appealing to noone. And to draw that even broader, it's not only racing games or games in general, it's just also society as a whole, dumbed down, looking for a challenge is a vice nowadays.

I hope Assetto Corsa make a GT rival. They probably had the budget, as the original is one of the most popular games on steam, and they seem to know what the community wants (we'll see if AC2 can be easily moddable, by the way their talking it seems so) and the base they have currently is very good. All they would essentialy have to do is look at Gran Turismo 4 and tweak it around so it is more up to date and unique. Plus, the game would be availble on PC, XBox and Playstation, so eveyone would be able to play it.

I found it so frustrating to be handed cars hand over fist, and never being able to drive any one car for very long, because after two races it wouldn't be viable for the next set of races. I got absolutely no sense of progression from this game. You said it best when you likened it to an extended tutorial. That's all it was, and then when it was all over, it didn't seem like there was anything left to do. I love Sport mode, but I want a compelling single player too.

They coulda done a few things that woulda been cool with some of the GT7 changes: - Add a special bonus questionaire to gain a credit bonus that race where the info is found in Cafe or something... but knowledge without application doesn't do much. - There is a TON of GT staple races that don't exist even after a year on the market in GT7. - Sport Mode I think should have to be unlocked, but it could have been unlocked differently with more thought. (Sportsmanship Test Races, open up Race A/B/C seperately with license. etc/etc) - The AI in solo mode is horrifying, as is the fact there is no Qual, no standing starts... - There is a TON of inconsistancies in the livery editor and custom parts, from defaulting your interior color based on paint change(new NSX in red), to 2 piece wheels that get fully painted as 1 unit, when in every other GT that wheel was clearly a polished lip even after altering color...buying the paints is a pain, because there is no filters, and finally wtf with carbon fiber.... serious. That's heinous that once you try to add carbon... no more special colors. You cannot make decal metallic. And there is no individual texture per decal... instead it decides that ALL your decals are that texture once changed. The windsheild banners are often not using the entire space and cut you off.

i thought it has ended, and boom 3 HOURS OH MY GOD cant wait to watch all this

Seen every video. Just watching the entire thing again for the watchtime so this guy can finally hit the algorhythm bingo

I don't think Kaz even know what is his target audience and completely blind to Gran Turismo fans, he legit thought he's in the car industry and not video game

Gt5 was my first granturismo after I played it I played the older ones and I still think gt5 is my favorite mostly because there's over 1000+ cars and I miss how you could fully upgrade some cars then make them a gt3 car

Fantastic content Roflwaffle, keep up the loved work

For me, the series peaked at 3, and it was a bumpy road afterwards. Some highs, some lows. GT3 is my favorite racing game of all time, and for good reason.

I always giggle when you mention manufacture / brand invites and ferrari logo shows up 🤣

Absolutely spot on, I fear for the future of this franchise.

Great breakdown of GT 7 perfectly summed up my frustrations with it! It's sad seeing how many great single player centric games become so hollow.

I own all the main games from when they were available in their respective day. I don't remember the game being available (in the uk) in 1997.. my memory says May 1998. My time playing gt7 is about as long as i can take watching this video, 10 to 15 mins (it's sunny outside rn) lol. However, unlike gt7, i will be back soon, popping in and out, as and when i have time. I really appreciate your reviews greatly but 3 and a half hours, man alive 😂 ✌

I've Been Here Since GT1 and honestly my heart was broken when I played GT7.

Great video! I agree with pretty much everything you've said. The visuals in GT7 are absolutely stunning and PSVR2 is an amazing experience, but how the single player was so messed up is absolutely beyond me. I still play GT4 regularly, because it's just so much more enjoyable.

Quite possibly the best videos I've ever seen about Gran Turismo. It's getting very hard to stay optimistic about the future of this series!

That realistic driving, where better tires are making car more snappy and touching brakes sends my WRX flying sideways? Neither my M235i in xDrive nor my civil (means 3x open differential) Legacy were showing such symptom in RL.

ngl roflwaffle, think you just saved my life because if it wasnt for this... i would have never known what to make my homework about

What an excellent video essay! I have so many thoughts about the game, i don't even know where to begin, so i guess i'm gonna start writing, and edit in later the things i forgot... *About the always online single player* In my opinion, PD's reasoning of "players might cheat their online ratings" is a load of bullshit. Honestly, who fucking cares? The moment a cheater enters an online race with actual pros, everybody will know what's up. Imagine Valve announce, that you can't use Steam offline anymore, because people using achievment unlockers for Team Fortress 2 is a huge issue for some reason. Not to mention, that with this decision, they just slapped an artificial expiration day to the game. If i remember correctly from the server outage days, the only thing you can do without a connection are custom races with a couple of pre-selected cars. You can't even access your own cars, so prepare to say goodbye to your 20 mil classic cars (and countless hours of grinding) once the next game comes out! *About the inflated car prices* PD seems to imply that they did this, because it's realistic. Which i mean, it is, but i don't play a driving sim, because i like to be reminded, that i'm never gonna afford my favorite cars from my childhood, because many of them are just investment assets in some rich guy's garage. If Polyphony wants to bring in some more realistic elements of car ownership, then i'm looking forward to dealing with insurance, property taxes, mandatory inspection, rust, and car theft in GT8...

So much of this video perfectly explains what I appreciate and dislike immensely with GT7. Thank you for all your hard work putting this all together. 🏆

Like your video mate, havnt cared for gt in many years but the passion with which you speak about it is endearing. Good to see more young people making videos on games who seem to understand the basic design choices that make a good game. Listened in the background while I blasted around on free roam in AC

One manly tear to me eye. I started on gt4, and peaked on GT with GT5, and after that I got a pc, full wim, and now have multiple real cars. Shame what the game has turned into, but thanks for the memories.

I popped in GT1 again and played for an hour or so and its still soo much fun and all the dealer songs are absolute fire.

GT4, for me, just has this sense of progression and collection that I've never felt in other games. Sure I might be grinding for money, but I'm also making progress while I grind. I'm building a connection to the cars I'm using. I'm seeing that percentage complete number slowly going up with every race and I feel like while I'm in for a long ride, it's going to be a lot of fun. I feel accomplished with every single race and upgrade. It's almost like an RPG. Maybe that's why I enjoy the Import Tuner Challenge game (and it's predecessors) as much as I do. The single player is a story. Not in the traditional sense, but in that you're making your own story. You and your car are embarking on this epic journey together. Racing games now days have lost their soul.

to me, the greatest problem is that Kazunori isn't a game designer and isn't interested in gaming. This leads to a producer trying to be an auteur of something that barely works as a game and falls way short of being the all encompassing realizations of his ideas because no hardware, resources and time will be enough to reach that. I don't want to give up on the charm some of PD's decisions bring to the table and that are completely unique, but I would also welcome some more rational and logical design choices being made by people who understand gaming and motorsports (and, no, sorry, whoever designed Gran Turismo racing aspect doesn't and I would go as far as to say never went to a race)

I absolutely love listening to these videos while working on my car. You should look into starting a podcast if you dont have one already. You have a great voice, incredible pacing and pronunciation, as well as just having interesting topics and good points to listen to. As well as including jokes makes this video so enjoyable.

yourr commentary about the sacrifice for teh sake of diminishing returns of photorealism are spot on as to why thanks to the cartoon shader in assetto cora's content manager i modded my assetto corsa to look like a hybrid between Automodelista and GT Legends , just slap on the a rightly graded pp filter and it looks gorgeous!

Great job elaborating on all the issues with the game.

I hate it, but can't help but agree. Even the UI in GT Sport's VR mode being custom-made for *offline, single-player-only* use was left completely unchanged for competitive racing & multiplayer *exclusive* to the "full VR mode" in GT7 on the PSVR2, leaving out inherently critical race data (albeit data which wasn't necessary for offline, single-player time trials in GT Sport's VR mode). Yesterday I got an invitation from Porsche to buy a rare Carerra GT... *which I already own from a previous invitation.* So much of it just feels "mailed in" like this, like they lost interest or weren't inherently interested in making a full standalone game unique from GT Sport; GT7 is essentially GT Sport 2.0, but it's not necessarily better for it in spite of the upgrades.

Every single reason why I returned this game 30 days after purchase was covered in this video. Very well done.

Thanks for showing me the music replay. I missed it although I invested 1500 hours in this game. 🙈 Thanks a lot for this brilliant video!

It feels really sad to look at gt5 and wish that the gt7 campaign was just a redone gt5 because thats still better than what we got

I watched pretty much the whole video yesterday and I finished it this morning, and I must say you did an amazing job! I just stumbled across your channel a couple days ago and I have seen a bunch of your videos already, they are very interesting to watch! I am a fm player at heart but I had a ps3 and gt5 back in the day(which I had a lot of fun with) and I bought a ps4 pro just to play gt7 (and spiderman lol) and I must say, I havent touched the game in months and I kinda regret getting it. I agree with every point you make! Starting at the back of the pack with the cars spread out over half the track is probably my biggest gripe with the single player, especially since I’m used to standing starts in forza. Also the menu books I got bored with, it just felt like a chore and I never was able to develop a relationship with the cars. I really want the new fm to be a good game, but my expectations are low so I won’t get dissapointed.

yes, this is the ultimate breakdown video of Gran Turismo 7. Many sincere thanks for this from me. Eternally grateful for the GT game series and for this channel.

Pole in front of TRL_Lightning is insane.

Exactly what I been complaining about to die hard noobs. Better said. Thank you 😊

3 hours?!! Wow! Loved your videos btw.

I've watched this video multiple times and I come back to it once again. I've beaten every race in the entire game, and after running hundreds of hours of AFK races with the Honda Beat on Daytona to grind for credits, I have reached 94% completion on the car roster. All I'm missing is a few used and legendary cars and two invite-only cars: the Veyron and the Huayra. Up until this week, I had obtained 2 Lamborghini invites, 2 Aston Martin invites, 2 Ferrari invites and 1 Citroen invite. I had also pulled 4 Venenos and 3 Chirons straight from the roulette. But despite having EACH of them appear 5 times in the roulette, I had not pulled a single Bugatti or Pagani invite. On Saturday, I pulled a Porsche invite. Despite not ever pulling another Porsche invite before, the Carrera was the car I got for beating menu book #39, so it was worthless to me. On Monday, I pulled my third Aston Martin invite. And a couple of minutes ago, I pulled my third Lamborgini invite. So, to sum up: *THREE* Lamborgini invites, *THREE* Aston Martin invites, *TWO* Ferrari invites. *FOUR* Veneno pulls from the roulette, *THREE* Chiron pulls from the roulette. *ZERO* Bugatti invites, *ZERO* Pagani invites. *ZERO* Veyron pulls from the roulette, *ZERO* Huyara pulls from the roulette. ................................................................................................................................................... I have been playing Gran Turismo for 20 years. Polyphony will never see another penny from me. I am done. Edit: Believe it or not, I got ANOTHER PORSCHE INVITE, 48 hours after making this comment. If it didn't have any resale value, I'd break the CD in half, but I'll trade it in for something that isn't complete ass. What a colossal waste of time.

Keep up the work best critique ive seen for a game hoping PD is listening like with the swaps