I heard of a Swiss that his father was paying chf 16,000 => 608,000 baht per month for his care in Switzerland. He brought his father to Thailand, rented a two bedroom place for 10,000 baht per month and had 2 full time carers looking after him 24/7 and saved a fortune and his father had better care and went on excursions etc instead of just being left in a home to deteriorate and die.
thank you so much. my late thai wife and i had planned to retire in thailand, hopefully in hua hin. my wife was my caregiver as i am disabled. this is another option to consider. though conversant in thai and financially secure, living by myself is problematic.
I was looking at this for my retirement I had a stroke &I am getting home help and I am just a peace of meat too them &it will get worse spending my last few years down here looks very nice way to go
Sorry to hear about your stroke. The place featured belongs to a big organization Baan Lalisa with many beautiful places to stay many choices. I hope to bring more videos about these places. Best wishes for your recovery. Thanks for watching.
Well done Les for taking the time to do this video on assisted living.What is very very good is how it is broken down into packages with prices,which gives you the flexibility for what you can afford and what fits best to your particular needs.The quality of care as you say is a no brainer and it's a shame the UK care system has fell soo far behind to match this type of care.The biggest shock for me was the ratio between staff and care home members.The ratio of one to one care is unbelievable for that price,you'll never see that in the UK at those prices.I think the feel good factor as you mentioned does make a difference to your metal and also physical health,especially with our dreary Uk climate. Thanks again Les for taking the time to do this as its something we would not think about until the time comes,which gives all of us a chance to prepared if the time comes.
Thanks so much for taking time to comment and watch the video. I would agree with your comments. Blue Sky and the Sun helps our wellbeing. I hated the grey days in the UK and we had many of them during the winter.
UK DHSS would save a lot of money sub-contracting "assisted care" to Thailand. The cost of a carehome in the UK for the DHSS is about £1600 per week => 290,000 baht per month.
Thank you Les. As you say, it’s a no-brainer. This complex looks huge and some might prefer something on a smaller scale but it just boils down to personal preference. Thank you once again for taking the time and trouble to do this video.
Very welcome. There are smaller facilities within the Baan Lalisa organization, I would like to go see the ones in Chang Mai they looked nice on the video. Thanks for watching.🙏
Les, well done and Thank you. You really have gone above and beyond on this one, both on quality and content. Very much appreciated, informative, relevant and helpful.
I'm pleased, as I am sure you are, that you have managed to complete the video and get it online. It's a very good idea to have information on this subject for people to be able to make choices about later life. Excellent work as always Les, take care and thanks again for this.
Had a relative going to dementia care unit in the US, luckily she had long term care insurance that covered a portion of the care, but even with that, it was $80,000 per year. The going rate for self-pay is more than $100,000 per year.
You are a very nice considered person who cares about such ‘ projects’ and the elderly , thank you ! BTW your video and information is superb too 🙂 All the very best wishes to you, your family and friends ! Stefan
For all of you who need someone to look after your finances, please do not trust anyone, including Thai Lawyers to look after your money. IT WILL BE GONE. Hire a lawyer in your home country to look after your money. This is coming from a Thai currently living abroad.
Absolutely stellar job. Very interesting so thanks for doing the leg work putting this together. Hope to never need such a thing, but it looks very nice.
Thanks for your comment, yes it took a lot of hours and time for this one but it was rewarding in the fact it provides people with lots of information they were unaware of. Thanks for watching😃
Thank you Les, a lot work and time went into this video and its greatly appreciated by all im sure, very informative and food for thought in the future that's for sure 11 out of 10 👍👍
Hi, considering a move to Thailand in the next couple of years with me and my wife early 50's and 2 sons 17 and 21. This is one of the most informative videos I have ever seen and answered one of our main concerns. Thank you so much for making it. Our future pensions etc would easily cover the costs over there compared to the £6k to £7k you pay every month in the UK which is an absolute rip off !. well done !!
Great vlog Les. One of your best hands down. Super informative and something that does not get covered by Thailand Vloggers. But I did not see the Ramp access to the pool area. Did I miss it?
Thanks for making this video, Les. Its the one I've been waiting for - there's some great info here and it's very insightful. You're work is very much appreciated.
This eagerly awaited video has answered the last few questions and reservations I had over whether my move next year is the right one. That facility looks amazing for what you need and is exactly where I wished my mother had been able to be in her last months. Thanks Les for taking the time, effort and energy to bring this to us and I think you did the organisation you showcase proud. As you say, no brainer.
Thanks for the timely video as my mother got diagnosed at start of year. From what I researched. cost is a little more than half in in Florida plus 1-1 nurse patient ration and better accommodations.
Sorry to hear about your mum. Best wishes for her I know it will be a frightening time for her, my mum had dementia and it is not good for your final days to be like this. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment.🙏
You are welcome! I wished I could of asked every question but the amount of time would of made the video over 1 hour long. But having the email address and the company details you can ask your specific questions. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment.
All credit to you for this original, different idea about a subject many of us are unaware about!👏 Obviously your review was limited by censorship of the company owners and that's understandable.🤨 Nevertheless, another great and interesting video by your goodself.🫡 Warm regards to Ploy and hope you're both well.😁👍
Thanks so much for watching. A great idea and much cheaper than the UK In time it will develop, there is a movement from people to do this. A few private homes have been set up here. It will be a growing market.
Thanks Les for taking the time and effort to do this. Unfortunately I feel this would be beyond my means. Looks like I will have to return to blighty at some stage 🙁 but many thanks all the same 👍
Good luck with that. If you are classed as an expat. You surrender all of your rights to NHS and any benefits. This then takes time, after your return before you once again become considered as UK resident. Many people slip up due to this.
I think the other option-must cheaper than this company-would be to continue to live in your current accommodation and hire a qualified individual to look after you. I am sure that they can be found in Hua Hin.
Outstanding report, very professionally done. In comparison to the places I toured in New York a few years back with an elderly relative who had mobility issues, this place seems leagues better, and at a fraction of the cost. On the one hand, a person can rent a place and make all these medical and assisted living arrangements themselves... but this organization seems to take all that stress out of the equation.
Sorry your having trouble, I have done other video's on Sunshine International. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J55_ZpaCrdA.htmlsi=IURtuHCd5Hi3nE6F
Great video. Very informative.happily Not ready for admission yet. Costs are a fraction of the US and the facilities look much better than the ones in the US.
It is something we all want to avoid but sadly some slip into Dementia and their world is so different to ours. Hope I never need it but I know it is there.
I believe a Swiss man and his Thai wife have a long established successful "resort" in or near Buriram Province, where many older Swiss expats, perhaps other European expats, live in separate bungalows, and do enjoy fantastic care. I have seen the van of this residence \ resort take the guests and some Thai resort staff to dinner at London Steak in Buriram. I believe they rent by the month at Lanee's Residence.
There are a few Care homes around Thailand but there is care if you look for it. I believe it will be a growing industry given the very high costs in European and American home. Thanks for watching.
Thanks so much for this . I bought a long term care policy that has international benefits and this would be a great option if I ever needed that care.
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video, and for your thoughtful presentation of this information! I am seriously considering expatriating to Thailand for a more affordable retirement, and had found the Baan Lalisa website during my research. But I knew nothing of this beautiful facility in Hua Hin. Were you able to learn anything about projected cost increases over the course of a resident's stay? Would they be tied to the rate of inflation in Thailand, or some other factor that would be helpful for planning?
Thanks for your question. The person to ask is in the description with his email, also Baan Lalisa details are provided. I do not work for the company but made the video to inform people there were such facilities in Thailand. These contact details would be your best source of information regarding costs. Thanks for watching and best wishes for your future plans.
For more information email jay07078440@gmail.com Look at the long version of the Baan Lalisa video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UB5RGtiKJzQ.html Assisted Living in Hua Hin check this link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FkXMEJD3DGY.html
The video contains a walk around two apartments, and pictures of others, it shows the facilities the other locations have to offer also. I give a breakdown of the prices and level of care provided. Also if you have specific questions I have provided the contact details of Baan Lalisa. This video is an introduction of what is available in Thailand. I can't answer every question given to me as I do not work for this organization and only provide a vision of what is available. I hope this answers your question. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment. Many thanks
I will be making a video soon about how the cost compares with Western Countrys and how this can be possibly funded and your family does not lose everything to the State. Is this something you would be interested in.
Les your the man-yes I knew of one such man who outlived his gain ($400,000 USD) when he sold his house when he moved to a facility in Los Angeles and he had to move out since he ran out of money!
I watched my grandmother have dementia late in life and the stress it caused my family. If i ever have to wear pyjamas in the daytime and i am dribbling food down myself and do not know what i am doing. It is not assisted care that i need, it is an assisted way out. Why would anyone put their family through this. Just my opinion but i dont want to live as a vegetable or a hazard to myselfand others. Good video Les an i hope that i never have ro make this decision.👍👍👍
I seen my mother with Dementia and my Stepdad wanted to walk away many times but he stuck it out till the end. A sweet old lady robbed of her final years. My friend who is the same age as me ( 63 ) has Dementia can't tell you what happened yesterday. We had a joint 55th Birthday party in Pattaya he was the life and soul of the party and Now can't remember me some days. Sad ending to the final years of living. Thanks for taking time to comment.🙏
I had no idea you could get assisted living in Thailand. But its definitely something worth considering when the time comes. You got me thinking. It's so much more reasonable than here in the UK. And with the climate and the pool: as you say, it's a bit of a no brainer. It would be great to see the Pattaya one too if you get the opportunity. Personally, I'd be looking for something with a bit more greenery and nature. But I guess it's just been built, so that could change. Still, looks like a potential option. Cheers for this information. Very helpful.
Staff care ratio: One carer per one guest. That's about all that needs to be said given the culture of respect for their elders. Cost is always a consideration in life but if one can afford this type of care, it appears to be very well worth it. I know my experience going to Bangkok Hospital recently, if indicative of the type of care in general to include facilities such as this, is exceptional, trust worthy, and of great value. Thanks for the review and time put into getting this important information out to those of us seeking to find trusted locations and facilities in foreign lands. Good stuff!!!!
@@RetiredandLivingthedream my mom had alzheimers and it caught her while already living in a good retirement home in Mexico where she was able to have 24 hour nurses for 5 years. I study as much as I can about the illness and it's root causes and now the alternative new thinking of medicine is pinpointing the origins or cause to eating habits, diets, gut health and stress, not so much to a mental illness inside the brain. If I ever find myself in that situation I will definitely move to Thailand and that company seem to do elder care the right way and fairly affordable. One thing that happened to my mom that could be very common in patients is dehydration, which sent her in bad shape to intensive care for a while. The reason is that Alzheimer's patients don't have the ability to communicate their needs or what they feel so if they are thirsty and the nurse overlooks giving them enough water that is a problem. The only solution I see is to tag or put a bracelet on every patient to force the caregivers to monitor the water intake, specially in a extreme weather like Thailand where it doesn't take long to dehydrate. I bet a lot of patients can live a lot longer if monitored because I am sure that problem is very common. Anyway, I am moving to Thailand hopefully next year so it's always good to be prepared for any eventuality, hope for the best but be ready for the worst. Thanks.
Without a doubt it’s better than any western option…it sounds like on the cheap it would be 30k for the flat, another 20 for 12h care , and another 20 for a meal plan… so 70k and your living large…
Thanks Les, Most definately (VFM) value for money in comparison to anything provided in the west. So a basic singleton would cost 50,000b pm, 30 for room and 20 for board and depending on needs would have to pay the extra's as and when required. At todays rate about £1,150 pm or less than £300 pw. Regarding the food is it buffet style or a choice from a set menu and does the cost cover western fare? Also is it a dry facility or can you bring your own alcohol to enjoy either with meals or in your own room? Do they clean you rooms/condo daily or a couple of times a week and what about laundry facilities/towels etc? And as you can have the odd guest to stay over night very reasonable and with the added facilities of Private beach/pool and fitness centres what's not to like. So over all, if and when those needs arise I will be advocating for my kids to send to such a facility. On personal note this would probably arise after I had lived in my own apartment (Condo) and needed some help on a daily basis. Well done me old mate👍. Regards Barry
Thanks for watching Barry, No problem with Alcohol weekly cleaning is done Menu is a set menu but many choices and yes western food is available. Laundry is available. Everything is possible. It is something to bear in mind when we are older for sure. Thanks for watching.
The Cha-Am location seems to be for independent living rather than assistant living at other branches. The Cha-Am website also shows a different rent starting at 28000 Bhat.
The Cha am location offers both. Independent and assisted. They have a block of Condos dedicated for assisted living. The price is what was provided at the time of the video. Thanks for your comment.
This is good information but some of the most basic information is missing. This is supposed to be an “assisted living” facility but there is no information about what assistance is given other than providing meals. For instances, assisting living places here (in Canada) usually including cleaning the rooms, doing laundry, driving residents to doctors appointments and shops. What sort of assistance do they provide?
Thanks for your comment. You are correct it is Basic information. Many people watching were unaware that Thailand had such places, your questions were asked in emails but I did not have time to ask and answer every question given to me sadly. This is why I have provided contact links both in the video and description to contact Baan Lalisa who will give you the personal information you may require. Thanks for watching and for giving your comment. Hope you can find exactly what your looking for.
My opinion Mmmmm well there are many options on how to fund this I will do another video soon on how to fund this by Thinking outside the box but if your on your own it is a possible solution but those who have no Thai partner this option works for me. Dementia takes it's toll on all around those who suffer from this, it takes a special person to deal with this, some Thai partners would walk away. So sorry for the long reply what ever floats your boat with this question. You can always try before you commit. Thanks for watching.
I am also retired and built a small 3 bungalow pool resort "Coconut Palms" with my wife in Kantarawichai, Maha Sarakham. We have basically stopped running it as a hotel due to the daily work load and my thoughts are to run it as assisted living or a care home with a live in, on site carer. I'd love to chat with anyone that could advise us on how to go down that path.
Thanks for your comment, that path is great to follow. Sunshine residencies is a great starting point, have a look at their model it works great and has sold 70% of the New project, the demand is there. Best wishes, if you decide that route give me a bell and I'll put it on my channel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J55_ZpaCrdA.html🙏
Thanks for that. This was the aim of this video look at your options in later life. Cost and surroundings are what makes your later life better if care is needed. 🙏
Sad to hear the dialysis answer. I do home peritoneal dialysis in the states. My insurance pays the rental cost and it's just sterile fluid exchanges ... No blood, less dangerous. I was hoping a Thai care facility could at least coordinate the same. Assisted living here can, usually through a clinic partnership.
Hi sorry it was not the answer you were hoping for, but it was not a No, they said it would take further investigation, not the normal request I would imagine. Thanks for your comment. Best wishes Les.
The rooms and door ways look tight if you needed to use a small mobility scooter . I presume there are ramps for them plus at least two lifts together per lift station in case one breaks down. Is there a sprinkler system in the place , since your an ex fire man what's the evac plan in case of emergency
Thanks for your Question, the best person to ask these questions is in the Link below the video, John can answer any questions you require. As far as sprinklers I did not see any but the apartments have smoke detection and each floor has fire fighting equipment. Having inspected care homes in the UK at the time of my inspections now over 15 years ago they only had smoke detection and not sprinklers. Hope you can get the answers your looking for. Best wishes Les.
Anyone can obtain the Retirement visa once your over 50 years old. You still need money to live here but I have done a few videos living on a small amount here in Thailand. Using an agent is a popular way to get a visa here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Lzl2zzJUotM.html
This is just one of many facilities, many people did not realize Thailand had Retirement homes. The interest in this subject is huge. Thanks for watching.
As a Yank with senior parents that just moved into a senior living facility in the US and being of retirement age myself, the subject and introduction to Baan Lalisa organization is both topical and timely. I noted no cooking appliance in each condo unit beyond a microwave and saw no mention of on premise market/grocery for basic food or toiletries. Is it possible to rent a unit there primarily for tourist reasons while on a 30, 45, or 90 day visit of the country so as to both take in Hau Hin sights and sounds but also to get a feel of the facilities offerings as an senior/assisted living facility? I think I know the answer, but does the facility allow for dogs/cats in the unassisted condo units? Thank you for your time, effort on a subject most wait until a life complication occurs before looking into it.
Yes unassisted condo units are available there is plans for an onsite shop being placed in the area, they do trips to markets and shopping if required. Cooking appliance would have to be Electric but as stated they offer a Food package for 20,000 per month with three meals a day. Rental of condos are also available at this facility. Hope this answers your question. Many thanks for your comment.🙏
Hi Les! Good video mate well done. However, it's not for me. I think the properties are too small and very expensive. The complex reminds me of an updated Russian utilitarian design. I believe you can get better quality accommodation and employ your own staff, for a lot less. Obviously, you need to do your due dillingence with regard to suitability. Good effort mate!
I agree it is not for everyone but this video was to open peoples eyes to look and see what is available. There are many ways to do this I will cover various other options in another video. Thanks for taking time to comment.
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I have done a few video's on this subject. A great idea and affordable and cheaper than the UK. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J55_ZpaCrdA.html
hmmmmmm. Thanks for your time for doing this. But for me its a no brainer. And that means I would not stay at their facilities, and for sure, I would never consider staying at The Energy complex. I know you like it, but I think its a horrendous place, which is why hardly anyone has ever lived there. But of course, each to their own. I actually prefer the other company that operates in Hin Lek Fai. But for me personally, if I ever need to be taken care of, I would stay in my own rental accom and employ a live in carer. But a good report, and Im sure many people would be very happy with the company you checked out, but its not for me. cheers
Thanks for that, you make some valid points it is a big complex and not everyone's taste, I liked the service they offer and the facilities all over Thailand. I have visited many nursing homes in my time with the Fire Service in the UK and mostly the residents do not go far from the location they are inn they live within a small footprint of the area. Non of the homes had swimming pools Bowling facilities Gym and a private beach. The guests with Dementia are not fully aware of their surroundings. In a nutshell swings and roundabouts. If you have your own house a live inn helper is a cheap option. Thanks for taking time to comment and for watching.
Thailand need to streamline their visa process so we pay once for life. It's to hard as we get old to have to keep trying to keep up with this. Is there a pay once stay forever program for us elders?
It is what it is, it is easy in Thailand in many other parts of the World it is much more difficult. Your Retirement visa you can be in and out in 15 min, 90 day report online 5 min, not much effort in that.
Thanks for this comment. there were many other questions not asked and it was impossible to ask them all and do the video otherwise it would of been an hour long. Yes they do trips/ shopping/ BBQ/ and entertainment some weeks. The assisted Living is a new venture so will take time to develop. Thanks for watching
There are ways to do this but not simple, Thailand is a cheap country but not free, you do need I'd say a minimum of at least 1,000 pounds per month. Hope this helps. Best wishes. Les.
It is a massive area some would say too big but how many of us in the Western World live on huge hosing estates. It ahs it's good points and bad, not for everyone but people can now see options available in later life. Thanks for your comment.
