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Asta Is Stronger Than You Think 

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True Devil Union Asta go brrrrrr.... no really. True Devil Union Asta is a boss. Way stronger than you think. Let me know your thoughts down below. Can't wait for Black Clover Chapter 332 and anime episode 171! The Black Clover Movie is coming!
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#asta #blackclover #manga #powerscaling #anime
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:43 The Defense of Anti-Magic
4:29 Basis of Scaling: A Defense
12:51 How Strong is Elf Arc Asta
20:08 How Strong is Post-Timeskip Asta
26:41 Devil Union Scaled
28:12 True Devil Union Scaled
29:12 Base Asta over Devil Union
34:06 Asta lowballed
35:23 Predicting Black Clover Power Levels
Calculations mentioned:
Salamander Sea Calc:
vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Use...
Mereoleona speed calc:
vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Use...
Credit to all artists for the colored manga panels used in this video:
notrot3: / notrot3
Jutoon2: / jutoon2
Dizzyrobchris: / dizzyrobchris
TwoLemons_: / _twolemons
Charmythedwarf: / charmythedwarf
Minaxa: / minaxaart
XValClover:
BizzTheGoat
Riotxriot: / riotxriot
Rooxer9: / rooxer9
OfficialEaero: / officialeaero
ShawnFrostMax11: / shawnfrostmax11
Xzism_: / minaxaart
Spade Princess
Dabi’s wife: / starlightguh
Lyumaho: / lyumaho
Kefutoff: / kefutoff
NotFunny01: / notfunny01
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Shiurry: / shiuryy
ZeroColorz: / zerocolorz
Lightpluto031: / lightpluto031
Zeno Sora: / sora_zeno
Arshixa: / arshixa
Lumicht: / lumicht
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Uiizzu: / lumicht
ShinobiTempest: / shinobitempest
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@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo
@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo 2 года назад
Given how anit magic works, I feel like at some point it is necessary to increase Asta's destructive power. He would become something like gojo, not being able to use his power to the full potential if allies are around. This way if BC really does become universal in scaling, Asta could at least destroy large planets in actual battle
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 2 года назад
I theorize that we will get crazy ap feats when the characters will go the Underworld, with no care for the environment
@ez591
@ez591 2 года назад
I hope that’ll happen to Asta. Let him get major power ups. I hope so
@n1ghtdr34d3
@n1ghtdr34d3 2 года назад
he should be able to use mana-zone of anti-magic, that will make him nullify magic without touching it.
@eternalblitz8727
@eternalblitz8727 2 года назад
@@n1ghtdr34d3 We already have that. He did it against lilith and nammah and i think true devil union can do it without the demon destroyer sword
@lamar9616
@lamar9616 2 года назад
If those planets were made out of magic then I'll say yes otherwise no he cannot destroy planets how the heck can you destroy planets with the power to negate magic what sense that make
@megumi652
@megumi652 2 года назад
Asta sounds like a long lost Saiyan 😂😂
@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo
@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo 2 года назад
💀 Bruh rlly gonna turn into a dragon ball character over here!
@lamar9616
@lamar9616 Год назад
Not really but ok
@xnortheast1106
@xnortheast1106 Год назад
@@lamar9616 yes really but ok
@lamar9616
@lamar9616 Год назад
@@xnortheast1106 it's really overrating him but hey I have to keep remembering if he's not in his own verse he's not that strong it was not against non magic users.
@lavishazan3450
@lavishazan3450 Год назад
@@lamar9616 bro like I don't understand why they are hyping up asta to planetary lvl bcz he is not even close imo
@sharky5948
@sharky5948 2 года назад
His complete form is gonna be insanely strong he’s prolly gonna be at 100% Devil Union in the fight against Lucius
@Flam9727
@Flam9727 2 года назад
hes gonna need more than that to beat time manipulation
@sharky5948
@sharky5948 2 года назад
@@Flam9727 oh 100%
@ninxq11
@ninxq11 2 года назад
@@Flam9727 Not really, with TDU he has a passive anti mana zone around him making him immune to all existing magic
@redkingosiris3800
@redkingosiris3800 2 года назад
@@ninxq11 I think that’s only physically he might still be able to be overwhelmed by magic attacks if they are in great enough quantity cause if not then he’s gonna be to op an they gonna have to ass pull to have asta lose the 1st fight against lucius if anything
@ninxq11
@ninxq11 2 года назад
@@redkingosiris3800 Time magic is one of the most broken magics in the world of BC, like gravity, space and more, they are so broken that they can make antimagic struggle, they don't counter them but it even has many difficulties (we already saw it with lucifero and dante), also it's half confirmed that lucius has mind magic too, all that added to his intellect will surely give asta quite a fight, both tdu asta and lucius are more or less on par. But i agree with you, if anything can overwhelm antimagic it's great physical power, lucifero, vetto and dante taught us that well💀
@niclasneziru1854
@niclasneziru1854 2 года назад
Seeing how the "endgame" arc is just beginning and Lucius likely has two grimoires, I think it's quite possible Asta has another form left to uncover, he might even get another devil contract
@donellebullock7404
@donellebullock7404 Год назад
I think Lucifero could still be the final, as even now he is still the stronger devil. HE didn't actually dye, and with them literally tearing him apart piece by piece, I'd say he may make a return when/if they go to the netherworld.
@naraydaniels7832
@naraydaniels7832 Год назад
@@donellebullock7404Imagine Lucifero with a five leaf 💀
@Lunarinzo
@Lunarinzo Год назад
@@naraydaniels7832 wrong since liebe hates lucifero so 2 could happen A asta uses lucifero and dips on him or liebe dips on him
@ehudezra4610
@ehudezra4610 2 года назад
Agree Asta was speed blitzing a full powered 50% Lucifero and took a punch straight to the chest and didn't flinched...this makes Asta small planetary level in AP since he's many times stronger than someone that can destroy the world(also based on Lucifero's implications when he said he'd kill all humans when he acknowledged Yami it would suggest he can destroy the world even at 50%) Also as you said Asta can't deflect any magic there were times that the magic was too stronger (example vs Patry) for him... it's relate also to his attack potency People don't understand the difference between AP and DC...Asta doesn't have high DC feats but able to beat someone that can destroy/largely effect the planet makes him small planetary Speed wise he should be high MFTL(probably 100 of millions times ls) I can see Black Clover becoming Universal in a similar way to how Bleach had with Asta Yuno and few top tiers becoming Uni+(example is Kenpachi from Planetary became multi galaxy (while supressed in Shikai) since he destroyed Gremmy's galaxy room which contained 3 galaxies and was stated to be outer space by Gremmy and by the editor)...Black Clover has some insane power cliffing
@hehehehhaww
@hehehehhaww 2 года назад
My bros hand is very tired😁
@ehudezra4610
@ehudezra4610 2 года назад
@@hehehehhaww not really 😂, i am used to be around the computer for coding and testing over 6 hours a day i am used to it
@hehehehhaww
@hehehehhaww 2 года назад
@@ehudezra4610 wow that's incredible
@donellebullock7404
@donellebullock7404 Год назад
Also they said Lucifero's presence alone would kill 90% of the world. That was just him, not any spell or amps.
@ehudezra4610
@ehudezra4610 Год назад
@@donellebullock7404 exactly, just his existence...spells can amp someone many times
@saleeksmith4765
@saleeksmith4765 2 года назад
You forgetting that devil Union's armor also change multiple times throughout the fights
@michaelking1091
@michaelking1091 2 года назад
The most dedicated black clover power scaler is back at it 💪
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Respect 💪🏻
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 2 года назад
The calc from Mereoleona being 95x SOL is actually way greater We know that Raia is superior to Patri, if Patri is already faster than light Raia would be even faster, the calc only consider him as 1x SOL
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
yeah I know. But there is yet to be a way to calculate how much stronger rhya is than that version of Patry. But it works as a good low ball :)
@Azaerus
@Azaerus 2 года назад
@@Br0ku then why do they underestimate the world of black clover so much with all these tests are enough to show that Asta is already at the level of meliodas or higher
@adrastos8401
@adrastos8401 2 года назад
it actually isn't. Ray of Divine Punishment is stated to be his fastest spell, therefore the swords are slower and thus not lightspeed. Plus the formula used for relative distance used doesn't work for drawn images. It requires a picture with known FOV, something that doesn't exist in a drawing.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
@@adrastos8401 his combat speed was stated to be SOL. Then he got faster. There are also several panels when his swords travelled faster than his movement. Idk what you’re going off about on the calculation. These type of calcs are accepted all the time.
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 2 года назад
@@adrastos8401 Yami stated that he was SOL and latter said that he got even faster, then Patri used an spell even faster And it is shown and stated multiple times that Raia is much stronger than Patri
@joseaugustosoriano5094
@joseaugustosoriano5094 Год назад
One part I hadn't paid attention to before, but quite interesting is that gravity holds space and time, Luciferus being the demon king and the two demons just below being the demons of time and of space, fits perfectly
@withprince1977
@withprince1977 2 года назад
Great job this video was phenomenal.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Thanks :)
@nathangwyn9301
@nathangwyn9301 2 года назад
Thank you. This video is awesome.
@liebe6002
@liebe6002 2 года назад
Awesome Video my friend!
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Thanks homie!
@hussnainkhan4134
@hussnainkhan4134 2 года назад
Your the videos are always the best 😉🙂🙂 splanded work my homie
@denrose6877
@denrose6877 2 года назад
great video man good work!
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@saiba726
@saiba726 Год назад
Dont forget lilith and namah burned light to the point where it was erased. Meaning its already multiversal
@COYBHelix
@COYBHelix 2 года назад
if the zogratis time travel theory is possible and time magic has shown that it can effect things regionally, even to the scale of reversing time on a small wound. is it possible that all these rapid power ups and any asspulls in the future can be explained by Lucius using time manipulation and choosing time lines that accelerate astas development as fast as possible. Basically Lucius is cultivating the magic development of every character directly or indirectly using time magic
@samjace4072
@samjace4072 2 года назад
Great video
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Thanks!
@ejgatdula6930
@ejgatdula6930 2 года назад
Man... This scaling is phenomenal great video broku
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Much appreciated
@Azaerus
@Azaerus 2 года назад
@@Br0ku a question how do you calculate Asta's speed I thought he was 10 times faster than light and already in the devil union
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
@@Azaerus ?
@Azaerus
@Azaerus 2 года назад
@@Br0ku that you explain to me how it is that so fast
@Azaerus
@Azaerus 2 года назад
@@Br0ku The problem is that I'm Spanish and I didn't understand almost anything.
@blokkgang4280
@blokkgang4280 2 года назад
Fun fact: the environment of bc is wayy stronger than a regular earth environment. Which is used for this scaling
@wisewanderer13
@wisewanderer13 Год назад
Imagine Asta can use those sword by just waving his hand like how Liebe did.
@moed4366
@moed4366 Год назад
he can but he aint using it idk why
@wisewanderer13
@wisewanderer13 Год назад
@@moed4366 yeah, I wanted to see it.
@blokkgang4280
@blokkgang4280 2 года назад
I know you have sorta covered this is in this video and some others , but will you make a video on how strong bc characters are as a verse? It would be a very interesting video.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Not a bad idea :)
@withprince1977
@withprince1977 2 года назад
Asta is above continental level as scaling for previous versions of asta and weaker characters are used for stronger versions of asta and stronger characters because no concrete numbers. Not to mention the multipliers were also low balls again due to not having concrete numbers. Now multi continental in just elf arc really doesn't seem that out of the place
@lamar9616
@lamar9616 2 года назад
I have a question is Continental level means that the person is capable of destroying a continent
@ejgatdula6930
@ejgatdula6930 2 года назад
@Lamar No... Watch till the end of the video since Broku explains the difference between attack potency and destruction potency
@lamar9616
@lamar9616 2 года назад
@@ejgatdula6930 yes I agree that he could damage and defeat people who can destroy planets because when you're the main character who has the literal ability cuts magic in a world that you're the only person that can do it but hey also the most powerful weapon of all time the PLOT you can do it. Look Naruto defeated a character that can split the moon in half and Luffy just defeated a character who can I guess destroy mountains and turn to a dragon.
@ejgatdula6930
@ejgatdula6930 2 года назад
@@lamar9616 yeah you're right
@RealJustTerrence
@RealJustTerrence 2 года назад
and you can’t forget astas true devil union wasn’t complete because he was injured and fatigued
@Superdestroyer701
@Superdestroyer701 2 года назад
Goat video
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Thanks for the support !
@yunoAsta141
@yunoAsta141 2 года назад
Nine Fates be hitting fire
@iamlaw8848
@iamlaw8848 2 года назад
Love the video. Also you could argue Asta being dwarf star -star level if you go back to where Dante created a black hole with singularity which this other youtuber called Mr Crafty Scales calced the black hole to be dwarf star level. Also yeah it would be cool to see vsbattle with Asta from other series like: Asta vs the Espada Asta vs different versions of Naruto Or the strongest character Asta could beat in Marvel and Dc comics Anyway love your work keep it up
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
thanks a lot! I'm aware of the black hole feats but they are not very convincing to most people. I agree with them as a possibility but there needs to be a bit more evidence to claim it imho.
@iamlaw8848
@iamlaw8848 2 года назад
@@Br0ku understandable
@fable2830
@fable2830 2 года назад
No this video is actually ridiculously bad it's just pure calc stacking nothing more also just because something behaves like a black hole doesn't mean it is a black hole you have to prove that it has the properties of a black hole which it doesn't it's just simple name fallacy other than than yeah this is a pretty bad scale as I said it's just calc staking which is a bad way to scale in general
@Pettam713
@Pettam713 2 года назад
@@fable2830 pretty sure it acts like a black hole as well, it straight up eviscerates mountains when its launched or the surrounding area
@fable2830
@fable2830 2 года назад
@@Pettam713 no its a giant name fall!any any good scaler knows this lol
@FinancialFreedom1011
@FinancialFreedom1011 2 года назад
Can you make a Ranking video on the Black bulls from weakest to strongest?
@connorohalloran1636
@connorohalloran1636 2 года назад
When u said universal level 1st thing that came to mind was the black hole magic theory that u and Animeuproar came up with
@Flam9727
@Flam9727 2 года назад
60 billion x FTL is insane and people still say deku can beat him lmao
@ninthretro
@ninthretro 2 года назад
Yo that’s true😂😂😂
@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo
@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo 2 года назад
Asta has been able to beat Deku for a while now. These people wild for dat💀
@MogaleMalaka
@MogaleMalaka 2 года назад
@@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo bro since his first black form
@yunoAsta141
@yunoAsta141 2 года назад
Asta Could beat deku before black form
@MogaleMalaka
@MogaleMalaka 2 года назад
@@yunoAsta141 Bro Deku is weak compared to the black clover verse😂
@thegomillionairemindset6719
Bro this makes sense with you breaking it down but 6 billion X SOL is just crazy
@yesitsme1214
@yesitsme1214 2 года назад
These got to some massive numbers and I do want to see how black clover chr compair to other series
@galleta5642
@galleta5642 Год назад
Asta might be SUPERIOR to me in EVERYTHING *BUT* can he eat a lot? 👀
@manganerd_69
@manganerd_69 2 года назад
As a heavy fanboy of bc. This just makes me happy to know that asta are infact strong cause ive seen some people saying asta loses to dkt : ) Btw this vid is phenomenal. I know asta is not weak but ive never expect him to be this strong and this FRIKIN FAST... LIKE SERIOUSLY. BILLION, TRILLION AND FRIKIN QUADRILLION TIMES FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT? THE HECK? IS THIS EVEN BC? THIS IS LIKE DBS SPEED TYPE OF THING LOL. Anyways u get a like👍
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Appreciate it!
@imoshow2468
@imoshow2468 Год назад
@@Br0ku isn't that a lowball when you said true devil union is at least 2 times strong than DU because asta got destroyed by a base Lucifero in DU and then Asta destroyed 50% Lucifero when he was in TDU and an increase of 1% is phenomenal I think true devil union is way higher than Large planet level maybe multi planet level
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Год назад
@@imoshow2468 it is a lowball. Above large planet level is -> dwarf star level -> small star level -> star level -> large star level -> solar system level
@scaringthecrow
@scaringthecrow Год назад
Its pretty easy to say the Fire Spirit is Country level when Fuego easily dried up that lake in 151.
@Its_Dhruvik
@Its_Dhruvik Год назад
I Agree with speed that seems too muchbut planet level power makes sense
@ClappaBappa
@ClappaBappa Год назад
THIS IS SO COOL! I LOVE ASTA! HES THE STRONGESTEST!
@nib1448
@nib1448 2 года назад
Nice video man, I can tell you put a lot of research into this. But one question, why is 60% Dante scaled as 60x Base Dante, rather than 160% Base Dante? I know that 1% increases are massive amps, but later you say 100% Dante is 40% stronger than 60% Dante. Shouldn’t both have the same multiplication type used, if percentage versus flat multiplication?
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
I explained in the video. When Vanica goes from 50%-51%, it is considered a "phenomal" increase in power. Which means that Devil power boosts are either exponential boost OR the base of the Triad are vastly weaker than 1% of devil power (Or both). So the only way to calculate it is to lowball that the increases are linear. This would mean that if Dante went from 1% devil power to 60% power, he would be multiplying his devil power 60 fold, and nearly multiplying his overall power 60 fold. And if he goes from 0% devil power to 60% devil power, it would be MORE than a 60x multiplier overall. I said that 80% Dante is 1.33x 60% Dante. Because to go from 60% to 80% you need a 1.33 x increased. As .33 of 60 is 20. And 20 + 60 = 80.
@_MegaMind_
@_MegaMind_ 2 года назад
@@Br0ku no wait hold on, patri creating a spell the size of a country doesn't mean that he's country level, not that I'm denying he is. Why I'm saying this is because he intended to use it to kill the citizens but not destroy the landscape itself. U get what I'm saying?
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
@@_MegaMind_ I get what you’re saying. But he created an orb of light bigger than the country and shot swords of light from it. To be able to create an object that size would be considered country level. I’d have to find the source.
@justicefulzogratis
@justicefulzogratis 2 года назад
@@_MegaMind_ The range of it was country level bruh.He needs that ammount of mana to cast it.
@xhantilomzintuli3334
@xhantilomzintuli3334 2 года назад
Can you make the same video for Yuno ?
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
It probably wouldn’t be awhile as it would be kinda redundant since he just scales to DU Asta
@durieljohnson1123
@durieljohnson1123 Год назад
could u do a scaling video on naruto, i think that would be interesting
@akadenanderson3283
@akadenanderson3283 2 года назад
I don't understand, when you added the x4 when asta got the black divider, isn't just increasing his anti magic? The power that devil was using was a lot of magic power. So the black divider may have increased asta's speed and durability against magic but how do you know for his attack power when he's about anti magic? You said you have to physically strong to just deflect the magic attacks but wouldn't the magic attacks be weakened and asta would be deflecting a weaker version of the attack?
@4nero_Dem0n1c
@4nero_Dem0n1c Год назад
Your actually mixing it up the edge or the sharp part of the Demon slayer sword cuts magic it's flat part of the sword reflects/repels them kinda like how have two negative sides of the magnet pushes each other away That's basically how Asta flies with his sword The demon slayer sword doesn't weaken magic it's only abilities are to reflect magic with the flat and "cut" only cutting the magic with it's edge Yami himself explained this Weakening magic is the ability for his other swords like Dweller passively absorbing magic and destroyer being able to erase magic in a small area And even if the Slayer swords flat repels magic away still doesn't change the fact that an incoming magic attack still has a force of impact if Asta isn't strong enough his sword will be the one that gets pushed back along with Asta and if he uses the edge it will be just like cutting an incoming bullet cut it in two and you'll have 2 bullets about ito hit you "And all of this were already explained in the anime"
@withprince1977
@withprince1977 2 года назад
Because of the lack of concrete numbers and proper knowledge how much character have grown this is a big low ball and many cases we could have assumed a number which would still probably be a low ball and take the characters way stronger than what this video depicts.
@rohanafzal522
@rohanafzal522 2 года назад
cant we say that since asta in black form with devil arm was getting mid diffed my nacht with 1x devil union and w/o mana zone we can say that devil union multiplier makes asta over 2x devil union nacht with mana zone since nacht lost against lilith and namaah and asta mid diffed the fused lilith and namaah
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
That would be a lowball yeah
@t-virustv3056
@t-virustv3056 2 года назад
The longer the video the better.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Oooof then just wait for my next BIG theory. It's going to be at least 45 minutes long.
@t-virustv3056
@t-virustv3056 2 года назад
@@Br0ku nice can’t wait bro it’s gonna be fun.
@ninthretro
@ninthretro 2 года назад
If Asta is a hybrid what type of abilities do you think will result form that?
@Azaerus
@Azaerus 2 года назад
I think chaos because I say this according to another story about Astaroht, this one had a few swords and as a fifth, which is the curious thing, it was called the sword of chaos that God gave him, but he fell together with Lucifer and the sword later, Lucifer trains him out of fear to that power according to what is said in the divided comedy version and in the other
@ninthretro
@ninthretro 2 года назад
@@Azaerus that would be dope, the same chaos as in SDS?
@Azaerus
@Azaerus 2 года назад
@@ninthretro friend antimagic is antimatter bro that is what Asta's power is inspired from and if this follows the other story of Astaroht about this sword it could be that something happens tells me that lucius is more powerful than it seems because now he has the power luciferi magic of time and the magic of his family that according to theory is of the soul and his grimoire that seems to be a function of all the grimoires I don't know friend :/
@user-adrsilva123
@user-adrsilva123 Год назад
Yo Broku Can wait for my Video and you Said you wanted to do a What If So Try Mine and Please Make it Long👍🤩🤩
@wl2yffx
@wl2yffx 2 года назад
Plz Can you Make a vidéo Ranking BC verse betwin Big 3 verses , this will be intersting :)
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Like BC vs Bleach, naruto, and OP?
@wl2yffx
@wl2yffx 2 года назад
@@Br0ku yes , like this
@kthegoat2926
@kthegoat2926 2 года назад
Goat
@justnojustn3036
@justnojustn3036 2 года назад
Do a sekki scaling video
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
ooof
@clinged2711
@clinged2711 2 года назад
I can now comfortably say Asta speed blitzes meliodas
@nmashie17
@nmashie17 2 года назад
people are gonna disagree with this even though the evidence shows it’s true, don’t listen to them. it’s
@joseaugustosoriano5094
@joseaugustosoriano5094 Год назад
people generally don't agree with this type of video because it doesn't understand the difference between power and the destruction capacity...
@indigo4740
@indigo4740 2 года назад
4:57 where do you go to find these calculations
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
It’s linked in description
@CJ-sy1js
@CJ-sy1js 2 года назад
Avg Broku not missing w
@wolf-zinstinct3655
@wolf-zinstinct3655 2 года назад
Since I'm a simpleton, all these large numbers and terminology sounds like an alien language to me. But somehow I felt enlightened throughout the whole video. At best, all I assumed was Asta most likely would be country level pre-timeskip; and then large country level after deflecting that giant fire/ice attack from the fused twins. Man was I wrong...
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
👀👀☺️
@wolf-zinstinct3655
@wolf-zinstinct3655 2 года назад
@@Br0ku If I somehow understood this correctly; based on the feats you provided, Asta technically got stronger in base after using devil union for the first/second time. Similar to how you said base elf arc asta is stronger than black form asta vs ladros (who is already country level). This reminds me a lot of goku and SSJG. After using the form, his base got amped up to that degree and got even stronger. Is that a good example for what's happening to Asta? (Yes I know he isn't absorbing his forms into his base xD)
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
@@wolf-zinstinct3655 Yeah that’s a pretty apt analogy
@wolf-zinstinct3655
@wolf-zinstinct3655 2 года назад
@@Br0ku Yay! Also, are you excited for the mobile game coming up?
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
@@wolf-zinstinct3655 yeah I am!
@driftapogers8138
@driftapogers8138 2 года назад
Black clover cosmology is insane
@rayrolle3355
@rayrolle3355 2 года назад
you show make a how strong is Noelle video
@clinged2711
@clinged2711 2 года назад
Tysm, now Bc can compete with one piece calc stackers 🙏
@el_grecco14
@el_grecco14 2 года назад
You forgot astas hax like his durability Negation regen Negation causality Manipulation death Manipulation and more
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Yeah, this was more focused on speed and Ap
@sortalgaming9522
@sortalgaming9522 2 года назад
60 billion times speed of light? Whats that
@manganerd_69
@manganerd_69 2 года назад
Ye dude. This is not bc, this is dbs in a different anime😂🤣
@pimpdemon9458
@pimpdemon9458 Год назад
I dont understand how many zone is a great 4 times boost
@VergaVenuda
@VergaVenuda 2 года назад
Zamn
@connorohalloran1636
@connorohalloran1636 2 года назад
Can u do a vid, Asta vs Natsu (fairytale)
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
At some point
@connorohalloran1636
@connorohalloran1636 2 года назад
@@Br0ku 😁👍
@ekemelchizedek3512
@ekemelchizedek3512 2 года назад
How strong is supreme god jin mori
@shrion3128
@shrion3128 2 года назад
I think Lucius will have space time and gravity magic he will get beezelbub and luciferors and also astaroths which he has
@greatminikwu9089
@greatminikwu9089 Год назад
Pls do meliodas vs asta 🤩
@zak._.fitness
@zak._.fitness 2 года назад
Everything likes up with my own calculations except for hw strong true devil union is… here you said it was 2x stronger than the initial devil union however asta in devil union got blitzed by base lucifero and in order to blitz (in the dictionary) you have to move 3-4x the speed of said person perception making base lucifero a minimum of 4x devil union and then the 50% power up he became stronger and faster but true devil union was able to deflect punches point blank…. In short true devil union is a minimum of 4x multiplier of initial devil union
@regenbogenexe7155
@regenbogenexe7155 2 года назад
Okay one question how could Asta destroy a city or a mount or something even bigger as I mean he has a sword with only anti magic so how???? in terms of what move or attack would he make to accomplish that
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Look up attack potency. I explained what it is in the cidoe
@regenbogenexe7155
@regenbogenexe7155 2 года назад
​@@Br0kuokay sry me dumb lmao i whas kinda lost in the vid and did not watcht it to the end so my bad and than good vid but maybe expalin that stuff a littel bit at the start because bro i had no ideer so also thx for some new infos
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
@@regenbogenexe7155 you’re not Dumb! I’m just telling you 💪🏻
@kaizatengoku3893
@kaizatengoku3893 2 года назад
truly devil union mode is way more than 2x stronger i think 10x stronger
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 2 года назад
honestly i dont get why people call black clover disney clover fr its the best new gen ngl
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
it's goated
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 2 года назад
@@Br0ku fax
@dontlosetodoubttm709
@dontlosetodoubttm709 2 года назад
Thats because of some moments in the spade arc
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 2 года назад
@@dontlosetodoubttm709 yeah i remeber
@Azaerus
@Azaerus 2 года назад
@@iprince7934 see one piece there are almost no deaths and their deaths are secondary characters if I remember correctly and in this arc no one died and they did not get angry
@morganvanlenthe5425
@morganvanlenthe5425 2 года назад
ande people say shit like "luffy solos cuz he dodged a lazer" as if dodging something makes you faster than it
@wl2yffx
@wl2yffx 2 года назад
I was talking for a day to a Luffytard and hé Never change his opinion , hé Say Gear 5 Luffy solo Black Clover , one piece kids fans are menaces 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
@sunnyweasel3097
@sunnyweasel3097 2 года назад
aye dude i work early drop that shit now for me plz lol
@lastprogram5579
@lastprogram5579 2 года назад
idk bout him being 300x the speed of light
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
It’s proven
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 2 года назад
yeah its pretty easy as asta was able to hit back a laser from patry in the fortress calced at 420x ftl
@plzwork9476
@plzwork9476 2 года назад
Light magic takes on the speed of actual light the fact that he can react to it way back in the series kinda proves that.
@jcm04
@jcm04 2 года назад
@@plzwork9476 bruh 900 trillion times the speed of light tho, ain’t no way😹
@plzwork9476
@plzwork9476 2 года назад
@@jcm04 Ya that seems like a stretch lol but natural light is fast and on top of that it’s getting amped by mana so id definitely say Atleast several times faster
@lascients2112
@lascients2112 2 года назад
Calc stacking is inconsistent. Asta is consistently in the early mftl ranges
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
This isn’t calc stacking. You can still easily argue MFTL+ without multiplier stacking.
@joebertonez8997
@joebertonez8997 2 года назад
Yes he's definitely broken 🤧
@asianpersuasion4901
@asianpersuasion4901 2 года назад
never trust anybody who starts pulling out calculations
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Don’t be that guy
@asianpersuasion4901
@asianpersuasion4901 2 года назад
@@Br0ku I mean, personally I think keeping it simple by saying X > Y because a, b, c powers is fine, but sure, quantify everything to the very last digit if you want.
@lascients2112
@lascients2112 2 года назад
You have to scale ap off of dc lol. Can’t get asta to planetary unless you can prove he can damage someone with planet level dc.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
That is NOT how scaling works lmao
@lastprogram5579
@lastprogram5579 2 года назад
if hes wearing devil union then how can anything hit him
@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo
@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo 2 года назад
I think its probably just the transformation itself and not actually potent anti magic. Say Natch's shadow magic affected his surroundings in some type of way. The magic surrounding him when he goes into devil union probably isn't potent shadow magic but just the transformation. Although since asta was tanking Lucifero's punches which were prob amped by his magic, Asta can prob learn to constantly coat himself in potent anti magic so magic can never dmg him.
@Benthesniperof8
@Benthesniperof8 2 года назад
@@HeavenlyDemon_Jugo Nacht devil union transformation may not be shadow magic, as it is clearly affected by the 4 devils attributes. Ergo it's just magic. Aka the Devil Union is made of Mana. Asta having no mana equates to his devil union being made of Anti Magic. The only times we've seen Anti Magic not overpower mana is when there's been exceedingly high amounts of mana to overpower the Anti Magic. (Zagred fight before Black Devider, Lucifero catching Slayer while Asta is powered up in devil union.) In theory, all a mage needs is excess amounts of mana to overpower the Anti Magic property of erasing, disrupting, deflecting or cancelling cause and effect magic spells. I'd wager that if you took Yami and Nacht, and made them both fight Asta with access to just Devil Union baseline; I bet they can't even damage the armour. Unless they used attacks that didn't use mana, think sword attack/ throwing rocks and boulders at him or something.
@DaAmazin718
@DaAmazin718 2 года назад
Let's just say Saitama from One Punch did the same training and you can even scale his shit at all so if he can keep going he will be on par with him.
@lavishazan3450
@lavishazan3450 Год назад
Bro you don't read opm Manga do u?
@CordobezVeridan
@CordobezVeridan 2 года назад
If in the calculations we are bringing up real life physics to calculate light speed then shouldnt every schmuck in BC constantly travelling back in time as a result of moving so fucking fast? Why Luck using True Magic to turn his body in a spear of lighting should be impressive when most characters are easily destroying reality by moving? Not trying to be negative, i'm obviously not the target audience for powerlevel videos.
@justicefulzogratis
@justicefulzogratis 2 года назад
Im afraid this is calc stacking
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
I’m Afraid it isn’t. Go look up what calc stacking is
@wl2yffx
@wl2yffx 2 года назад
And my freinds debate asta With Luffy 😂😂😂
@feind_scales678
@feind_scales678 Год назад
so asta is mftl+ and he prob needs to become 100x times stronger and faster to fight lucius, this guy is gunna become too op and as a totally not biased bc fan I am soo happy ty and I am gunna sub and like this vid
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Год назад
Thanks!
@tomspeed6026
@tomspeed6026 Год назад
He’s not gonna be that op compared to other anime characters like even Naruto or Goku in the Frieza Saga
@feind_scales678
@feind_scales678 Год назад
@@tomspeed6026he solos naruto
@tomspeed6026
@tomspeed6026 Год назад
@@feind_scales678 Naruto is solar system levels in scaling. Asta is only planetary. And Asta’s Anti Magic can’t do anything because chakra isn’t magic unless you use verse equalization. Also, Naruto has better hax and hand to hand combat. Plus Asta ain’t got a counter against existence erasure like Truth Seeking Orbs
@feind_scales678
@feind_scales678 Год назад
@@tomspeed6026 lmao asta is multisolarsystem in a lowalled feat + before existance erasure can be used asta would have already sliced naruto in to little pieces and since chakra is not equal to magic than asta cant be caught in genjutsus so asta sleedblitz and outscales naruto neg diff
@michael-kg5ej
@michael-kg5ej 2 года назад
Theoretically, Lucius's devil union and or time magic could alone be cast and incapacitate at a faster rate, than Asta's devil union can erase it.. And that doesn't even account for Lucius's own magic used in conjunction with time magic. I cant wait until we get to see all that.
@pimpdemon9458
@pimpdemon9458 Год назад
I have to disagree with your 380 ftl base elf arc asta thing. Its literally confirmed by raia that mereoleona was using mana zone the entire fight
@justicefulzogratis
@justicefulzogratis 2 года назад
Im afraid asta is only multi continental.Some people noticed that u stacked many calcs in the comments just of pure assumption so that doesnt count.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
I’m afraid you’re wrong. I never stacked calcs. This wasn’t calc stacking. I implore you to find an actual argument besides assuming what people say in the comments section are correct. None of this was pure assumption, good god.
@obamaprism9458
@obamaprism9458 2 года назад
you could send this to prove to some how stong asta is... or you could just say joe.🥤
@makoshark40
@makoshark40 Год назад
you dont equate speed properly the closer you get to the speed of light then energy required is squared so the difference between 90% speed light and 99% the speed of light requires over double the energy just to get to 90% the speed of light
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Год назад
That’s not how mana works
@makoshark40
@makoshark40 Год назад
@@Br0ku lol mana is energy and light is physics so how does that not work? nowhere has asta even went the slowest of the speeds you've stated that speed would literally collapse time and space much less when you state the higher speeds that science wouldn't even be able to explain the consequences that speed would literally tear reality into an unrepairable state. im not saying asta is slow but at most he is 80% the speed of light with teleporting this goes with almost all anime characters because you use the term magic doesnt mean these rules no longer apply anymore. scoff at me if you wish but i also will not accept he is millions of times fast then the speed of light he would have use so much energy it would instantly exorb our milky way just in energy requirements. and honestly that ammount of speed would probably require the entire observable universe in energy. if he had that much anti magic on him. this would would not have magic because his anti magic field would be so large. no matter what perspective you look at this without waving a hand and saying magic is lazy. if your going to go trough so much work to equate all this power then you should do the same for the requirements your basically doing half the job and ignoring the other stuff and brushing it away with calling it magic so its ok as an excuse
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Год назад
@@makoshark40 lmfaoo
@fable2830
@fable2830 Год назад
@@Br0ku don't calc stack when scaling this scale is horrendously bad
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Год назад
@@fable2830 never once did I calc stack in this video! Show me once where I “calc” stacked
@klvrkhi2294
@klvrkhi2294 2 года назад
I think Asta will become planetary level very soon.
@lamar9616
@lamar9616 2 года назад
Doubt it
@manganerd_69
@manganerd_69 Год назад
@@lamar9616 attack potency? Fck yes. He is already above that cause tdu is more than 2× powerful as du but destructive capacity? Doubt it too
@lamar9616
@lamar9616 Год назад
@@manganerd_69 why I feel like I'm watching and reading different series you're telling me Mr anti magic destroy a planet with Rusty swords and anti-magic.
@lamar9616
@lamar9616 Год назад
@@manganerd_69 if Earth was completely made of magic completely then yes you got me
@manganerd_69
@manganerd_69 Год назад
@@lamar9616 ap and dc are different bruh. Do u know what im sayin or not?? And the planet in bc is not made by magic however, it is reinforce by magic just like what broku said. Also u said u feel like ur reading different series because ur use to lowballing bc
@NostalgicRemedy
@NostalgicRemedy 2 года назад
W
@rwisgodly
@rwisgodly 2 года назад
Dragon Ball Fans: CaN hE BeAt GoKu ThO?
@absolutemadlad5662
@absolutemadlad5662 Год назад
With the rate asta is growing at he just might
@Dwight_Wood
@Dwight_Wood 2 года назад
This all feels like such a stretch
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
It isn’t though .
@Iikunglazer
@Iikunglazer 2 года назад
this feels wrong on so many levels... but I can't think of a counter argument...
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Facts
@jpick3113
@jpick3113 Год назад
Hey man not knit-picking but its plethora not plethor. Got to emphasize the a
@saleeksmith4765
@saleeksmith4765 2 года назад
Yo
@insanemakaioshin
@insanemakaioshin 2 года назад
I think he's slightly below the mid calculation, as Nacht made statements that contradicted his previous statement about the Dark Triad at 100% being equal to Lilith & Naamah. I take that to mean they, as individuals, are slightly stronger than Demon Xenon. Nacht admitted to underestimating Lilith & Naamah. I take that to mean they're at least twice as strong as the 100% Dark Triad. Also, the comparison of Dark Disciples to the captain doesn't hold water as they're multiplier to their own power. The captain was only stage 0 while using devil power. The Disciples would've a stronger base. P.S. I stick to my belief that Zagred is as strong as 2 Dark Disciples & standard magic 100 times stronger than the devil in question can kill them. Ultimate Magic & Saint Stage are proof of the ladder. If it was one or the other, I could write them off as them being special, like Arcane, but not both. The fact that your multiplier shows that Asta got 16x stronger means that Yuno would've gotten a slightly lower multiplier, due to inferior training. Zagred was roughly 3 to 4x stronger than Asta, as he fought Asta & 5 people relative to him. That means Post-Time skip Asta was at least 4x stronger than Zagred. Yuno, who would be weaker, due to inferior training, would be at most that. The fact that he one-shots Dark Disciples with no difficulty is evidence. If they were stronger than Zagred, he would be shown putting more effort into it. You've to be twice as strong as someone to one-shot them, well over 2x more to do so effortlessly. That doesn't count divided focus towards multiple opponents & protecting weaker comrades that Yuno had to deal with.
@fable2830
@fable2830 2 года назад
There's so many things wrong with this calc video it's ridiculous
@insanemakaioshin
@insanemakaioshin 2 года назад
@@fable2830 not really.
@fable2830
@fable2830 2 года назад
@@insanemakaioshin yes for one the speed calc is way too high future sekkai a scaler on yt has a more accurate scale of bc speed on his channel check that out I don't have time so I won't go into detail but this is just blatant calc stacking and calc stacking is bad
@insanemakaioshin
@insanemakaioshin 2 года назад
@@fable2830 the fact that Asta has dodged light magic is proof that the speed is accurate.
@fable2830
@fable2830 2 года назад
@@insanemakaioshin no it's not lol first of all I don't disagree with ftl asta what I disagree with is the multipliers it's blatantly wrong, also about that point the dodging light doesn't inherently make you sol that makes you scale into the relativistic ranges speeds it all depends on the distance traveled it's the consistency of when it occurs and how photonic these light statements are that make black clover light speed feats so solid. As I said go watch future sekkai's speed scale to put into perspective how absurd his high ball is due to the inflated numbers from calc stacking he got asta to around as fast as base Goku in super in those high MFTL+ ranges of speed that makes no sense even considering that the main wanked MFTL scale going around that scales asta off of Henry doesn't even get him that high despite Henry beings amped by 2 other black bull members also being emotionally amped which this is calc'd at 452.1xFTL even despite this being wrong because they scale didn't get ang sized. But you get the point even the wanked scale for asta's speed doesn't get as high as the inflated as hell numbers he showed I like broku but this scale is not it. Mind you the actual calc for the Henry first despite it not scaling at all and is just a blatant outlier is 362.5xFTL with ang sizing the actual rock that the scale is using which again is still only low end of mftl and not the overly bloated shit he has, I haven't even started on the main culprit which is the so scale lol.
@Sacressane
@Sacressane 2 года назад
Dantes devil (Lucifero) is way strogner then megicula, so one 1% of luciferos magic is way stronger then 1% of megicula since she is only a supreme devil and and not a a devil king which is said to be many times stronger
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Well yes and no, and debateable
@Sacressane
@Sacressane 2 года назад
@@Br0ku how come?
@masterpink6963
@masterpink6963 2 года назад
Now who wins Asta or Natsu
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
Natsu likely.
@clintivanorsolino9518
@clintivanorsolino9518 2 года назад
@@Br0ku For now.
@deoking7686
@deoking7686 Год назад
....bro
@EthanMuldoonMusic
@EthanMuldoonMusic Год назад
Asta isn't stronger then the wizard king, he's just got anti magic
@nokilight9756
@nokilight9756 2 года назад
bro please my friends are telling yami beats yuno
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
uh oh
@michaelthompson6021
@michaelthompson6021 2 года назад
He does
@CloverDragon03
@CloverDragon03 2 года назад
As much as I'd love for Asta to be this strong, there are too many problems with the scaling, mainly with the Salamander calculation, the Mereoleona calculation, and the multipliers you used. First off, the Salamander calculation is incredibly faulty because its entire basis is far too vague. "The sea" is too vague of a statement, and we also don't know how long it takes for this sea to supposedly be vaporized. In addition, a real life sea was used as a basis, which is very faulty given that seas in Black Clover could be very different for all we know. The feat being completely hypothetical does not help matters either. Next, the very liberal use of multipliers - many of which aren't even correct - is a problem. The biggest offenders are the Spirit Dive (which you also used for Black Asta) and Mana Zone multipliers, which you claimed to be 4x each due to the "many times" statement. Big problem, though: these are not direct translations of the raws. They're taken from a German translation that was then slapped onto Google Translate, and a direct translation of the raws indicates that neither of these multipliers actually exist. That alone drops a nuke on a lot of the scaling you did, but also applying these same multipliers to speed, while I get why you did, is also pretty faulty. Obviously, there will be an increase in speed for a lot of these forms (the only one I disagree with being a speed increase is Black Divider as it's its own attack rather than a form), but often times this speed increase is unquantifiable. Zora's traps are the only indication we get of an actual speed multiplier. Then, as for Devil Union, you took Nacht's "you'll grow exponentially" statement way too literally. This is a very common statement used in anime and manga to indicate a substantial amount of growth, but it doesn't literally mean an exponential increase in stats. Lastly, there's Mereoleona's calculation. This calculation is incredibly faulty because it assumes Mereoleona completed a ton of hand movements before even one Light Sword of Conviction reached her, which is quite literally not what happens. This assumption is made based on a still manga panel, when that manga panel is just conveying that she's punching each Light Sword of Conviction as they approach her, which is also supported by the anime. Essentially, it's a very liberal interpretation of a still panel. So yeah, I appreciate the effort you put into this, but I heavily disagree with this interpretation of Asta's power.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 года назад
I understand this notion. But I don’t necessarily agree. It should be fine to use the worlds smallest sea as a basis for the calc. Just like how when characters destroy planets or stars offscreen, nobody assumes that they destroyed a planet that was really the size of a tree or something like that. Conventional size ranges for planets/stars in our universe are used for those situations. I’ve seen multiple calculations without referenced time frames. It’s also just weird to not use it when it says “with a single blow from it’s talons”, so it’s not like it took a huge effort of many attacks to do so. As I also showed in the video it isn’t contradicted by the source material. Interesting, if you could provide evidence that this is void from the original Japanese? Sure, I used google translate. But Google Translate from English to it’s sister languages (German) is very accurate. And I confirmed the veracity of the google translation with a native German. Though if there is no such “many times” statement appearing in the original japanese version of the guidebook, there are still the same statements in the Light Novel. At least for the Spirit Dive multiplier. Though still not having the mana zone multiplier would change things with the video. As for the whole speed thing I disagree with that heavily. It’s always shown that when someone gets a mana boost that they get faster as well. So to assume that it would be unquantifiable, compared to a ‘so-called’ quantifiable AP or durability doesn’t really seem to be that logical imho. Especially when Zora’s traps act as evidence for more power = more speed in a correlative sense. Since he makes the spells bigger (twice as powerful) and twice as fast. I disagree with how you restate my argument because a lot is left out. It wasn’t just the exponential statement. It was the fact that Nacht had been watching Asta and saw many events of his life. Which means he knows that Asta was able to surpass his black form while in base in just a few days, and yet considers just a few days of training useless for the coming war. That was the logic applied. Not just the “exponential” statement. I don’t agree with this one. The manga shows a bunch of light swords right in front of her and then next panel is them all looking like they haven’t even moved and theyr’e destroyed. The same is shown in the anime. As if you pause the final frame of the light swords approaching her you can see the swords are RIGHT in front of her. She then has the time to raise her power, and launch a punch that destroys one. Since the last frame showed many other light spells right next to that one and next to her would actually back up what’s happening in manga and what was used for the calculation. The style of that portion of the scene was to show how fast she was as her first punch was visible and the others were mass blurs. Thanks for the thoughtful comment.
@CloverDragon03
@CloverDragon03 2 года назад
@@Br0ku I'll admit right now that I'm too busy to provide a more thoughtful response to this, but what I will say is that for the translation part, it was brought up in a server I'm in by someone who has the raw guidebook. If I don't find it, I'll order the guidebook myself and take a look at it to be sure. Regardless of that, though, thanks for the reply.
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