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Astrophotography with Glenn Clouder - ZWO EAF Installation on a refractor 

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@AstroPixUK
@AstroPixUK 2 года назад
Thx for the chat yesterday on messenger. This has helped massively. Jim
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 2 года назад
No problem Jim. I am glad it helped.
@AstroPixUK
@AstroPixUK 2 года назад
@@Astrobloke now watching Nina videos to test it next clear night
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 2 года назад
@@AstroPixUK i much prefer NINA. But then that will automate my observatory also. Give me a shout if you get stuck. I have some videos on using it but there is a guy on youtube called Patriot Astro that does a lot of NINA
@whatmattersmost6725
@whatmattersmost6725 3 года назад
Best vid on AF Backfocus!! THANK YOU!!! PLEASE DO MORE NINA Vids PLEASE....
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Thank you Christopher I really appreciate your support. I do have one on how to set up the new advanced sequencer. My next video is going to include some NINA and will be released very soon. Is there anything in particular you would like me to cover? Next one will be connecting and controlling AZGTI mount through NINA and starting an imaging session
@JoesAstrophoto
@JoesAstrophoto 3 года назад
Great explanation on the backlash Glenn!
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Thx Joe. Hope it made sense
@2badger2
@2badger2 Год назад
Thanks for the great videos! I just got my EAF auto-focuser and got it installed and working great in 2 hours, my telescope is a William Optics 120m (780mm). The Hocus Focus is giving me a 0.997 R sq matching and it take 3 minutes to run.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke Год назад
You are welcome and thank you for taking the time to comment. Lovely scope, i bet that gives beautiful results. Thats a great auto focus result so all working great, clear skies
@DavesAstrophotography
@DavesAstrophotography 3 года назад
Nice piece on the focuser setup in NINA, That is one piece of software that I haven't tried to use yet... Really need to get my finger out!
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Its def worth learning as its runs everything. Incl domes
@DSOImager
@DSOImager 3 года назад
Helpful video. I've been running the EAF on my sv70t for about 18 months now. It's been a solid performer so far.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Thank you. I think its a great bit of kit and works really well. Also compared to other autofocus solutions, the best value
@ranyag3619
@ranyag3619 6 месяцев назад
Grâce à votre vidéo très bien expliquée, j'ai réussi à résoudre mon problème avec mon focuser. Merci 😊.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 6 месяцев назад
I am very happy it helped. Thank you for watching.....Merci
@davidphillipson7256
@davidphillipson7256 2 года назад
Ha another great video Astrobloke, that is such a better way of finding backlash amount than looking at stars and more accurate surely? cheers
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 2 года назад
Thank you. It is the way I set up my focusers and they have always performed really well.
@charlieseymour3438
@charlieseymour3438 3 года назад
Very helpful, looking forward to installing my EAF. Exact setup you have, minus the filters..
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Thank you Charlie. At least you won’t have to worry about filter offsets yet. One of the joys of mono lol
@Westlake
@Westlake 3 года назад
Thanks for a great video. We’ll explained and filmed! 👌🏻👌🏻
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Thank you for the comment its really appreciated.
@britainthroughmylens
@britainthroughmylens 3 года назад
This was extremely helpful. Thanks a lot.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
You are welcome, thank you for your comment
@Ryan_Walsh1
@Ryan_Walsh1 2 года назад
Very helpful, thank you
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 2 года назад
You’re welcome Ryan, thank you for commenting
@PeterJahans
@PeterJahans 3 года назад
This is exactly what I needed to know, start to finish. I have the ZWO EAF arriving soon to mount on a WO GT81 IV. And I needed to understand and learn how to set backlash in NINA. Astrobloke - were you reading my mind?
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Excellent. If you ha e any problems let me know. Happy to help
@astrocarone9671
@astrocarone9671 3 года назад
This helped me today while I installed mine :) Thank you!
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Hi Caleb. Thanks for the comment mate and really glad it helped. Fits on the Z61 nicely
@AstroPilotchannel
@AstroPilotchannel 3 года назад
Well done!
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Thank you Trevor. Defo worth doing, especially if you go mono
@2badger2
@2badger2 Год назад
Great video! I have my ZWO EAF ordered for my William Optics 120 (780mm) telescope, I use NINA also.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke Год назад
They work really well together. Should be straightforward to fit and set up but happy to help if you have any questions.
@2badger2
@2badger2 Год назад
@@Astrobloke I saw one video where the EAF stopped working after awhile. They didn't leave another space between the motor and the flexable spindle and it was rubbing during each auto focus. Have you seen any issues with that? Thanks
@2badger2
@2badger2 Год назад
@@Astrobloke Don't you still need to do a auto focus even if you use the focus offset for each filter. Over the night the temperature will change causing any filter that you are using to go out of focus.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke Год назад
@@2badger2 I have 3 of these and never had an issue with any of them. After fitting I always check to make sure the motor can spin and operate the focuser smoothly and with no rubbing. They must have done it up so tight the motor was having to fight against too much resistance.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke Год назад
@@2badger2 When you set focus offsets you will set one filter for the autofocus, normally Luminescence. This will be at the start of your session and then the offsets will all work from this initial autofocus point. In NINA you can then set the parameters for any further autofocus checks. So temp change, Time, or the one I use is HFR difference. That for me works best NINA will measure the star HFR after each image and if that shifts more than 5% then it will run a new autofocus. Using the HFR it covers any temp changes or other problems so your rig stays in focus all night. Only thing it can get confused with is high clouds.
@AstroCloudGenerator
@AstroCloudGenerator 2 года назад
Great video. Nicely paced and really clear. So if the routine is called overshoot, does that mean that the EAF (knowing the backlash) overshoots slightly to get rid of it before always making the fine adjustments from one direction?
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 2 года назад
Thank you for taking the time to comment and glad you found the video useful. I believe it slightly overshoots and then backs up the known backlash to get the correct focus position. On e set up its very reliable
@AstroCloudGenerator
@AstroCloudGenerator 2 года назад
@@Astrobloke Ah. Okay that makes more sense. Thanks for answering. That was bothering me. Shot in the dark. Do you know of a way to set back focus during the day? If so do you have a video. I really begrudge the time lost from a nights imaging checking back focus. And I’m always left a little unsure whether it’s spot on. I use an WO FLT120 with Flat68iii and have just bought a Flat7a reducer and am not looking forward to setting it up :)
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 2 года назад
@@AstroCloudGenerator unfortunately backfocus is not a daytime thing. Also I have an adjustable flat61r and its supposed to have 56mm backfocus. It actually needs 57mm to give me flat stars to the corners so I feel its only a guide to start with. Best to take an image and look at the sub. If stars are pointing towards the corners the sensor needs to move away as too close.
@AstroCloudGenerator
@AstroCloudGenerator 2 года назад
@@Astrobloke As I feared. I was just hoping for an easy way out. I’ve always wondered how technicians set up and test scopes on a test bench. I can’t believe they wait for a clear night. No worries thanks all the same CS
@sandb1867
@sandb1867 2 года назад
@@AstroCloudGenerator You can try an artificial star, a resolution test target or a very distant street light. Two of these would have to be at night but you'll have the advantage of a lot less atmospheric turbulence, if any at all. You should still cool your scope off to reach equilibrium if the test is done outdoors.
@jratino
@jratino 2 года назад
Great video as I have the same scope. Made it super ez to mount. Question: when I checked my backlash, with the half step, it moved with the first click. Does that mean I do not have any backlash? Or should I set it to 10? 1 X 10
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 2 года назад
Thank you. Wow thats nice if it did as that would mean no backlash. Double check it but if thats the case its all good.
@jratino
@jratino 2 года назад
@@Astrobloke I actually checked it three times re-watching that portion of your video while checking it.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 2 года назад
@@jratino Thats excellent then. Looks like you got a really good EAF.
@matthilton8959
@matthilton8959 3 года назад
Do you need to fit these when the scope is pretty much at its point of focus?
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Hi Matt. That isn’t necessary for Fitting the EAF as you can adjust the focus position after it is fitted. If using a focus routine in say NINA, SGP or APT you need to be close to focus before starting or the results may not be good.
@matthilton8959
@matthilton8959 3 года назад
@@Astrobloke guessing this is pretty much the same drill for the focus cube? Considering getting one or the other at the min.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
@@matthilton8959 I would think so but cannot really confirm 100% as not ever used a focus cube.
@AndrewThomas73
@AndrewThomas73 2 года назад
Hi Glen, Slightly off topice here, but i have the same scope and the same WO 0.8x reducer and flatener, now for love nor money cant seem to get decent stars in the corners, any ideas how much to open up it by ? My zwo camera is set back 6.5mm +11mm extender, 21mm filter holder with a filter then the last 16.5mm extender all comes out as 55mm. Any advice would be helpful thank you.
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 2 года назад
Hi Andrew. I had the same problem. The backfocus for this flat61r is actually 56mm however I think its a out that and not exact. I think mine is currently sitting at 57.5mm. I got it to 56mm checked the stars and kept adding 1/2 to the adjustment until they were right.
@AndrewThomas73
@AndrewThomas73 2 года назад
@@Astrobloke Thanks for the advice, will give this a go, as all but given up on it... Thanks again.
@marceegee9277
@marceegee9277 3 года назад
Great video again mate. I have question in regards to the ZS61 & x0.8 flattener What have you got the back spacing on the flattener set at? regards Marc
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
Thx mate. The backspacing for that is 56mm. The built in rotator is a nice touch
@marceegee9277
@marceegee9277 3 года назад
@@Astrobloke yes it most certainly is, I just dont seem to be able to get the back spacing right! I have 55mm including the 183c 12.5 sensor depth but stars on the edge are bad even with the spacer @ +5. Think ii Ma going to start at +12mm & work backwards
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
What camera make? I have the 183M which is 17.5 built in which was the same on my original 183c (both altair cams)
@marceegee9277
@marceegee9277 3 года назад
@@Astrobloke yes, i have the AA 183cpro (non tec) =12.5mm built in
@robertsipes7391
@robertsipes7391 Год назад
Just bought the new EAF. I have a question does it need to be calibrated, like the Celestron Auto Focuser - where you run it to the limits Up and DOWN?
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke Год назад
hi There. I don't believe so. I have 3 of these focusers and have never had to calibrate them. Its just get the step size right for your scope and focuser and work out if any backlash is there and thats it. Good luck and clear skies
@deeber35
@deeber35 Год назад
Is an error of margin for the backlash amount at 10 too much?
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke Год назад
Every scope is different as they use different focus mechanisms. The steps required will vary but you need to see a change in the focus between steps. On this scope that was the setting it needed
@deeber35
@deeber35 Год назад
You only need backlash adjustment in 1 direction?
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke Год назад
Yes that is correct
@matthilton8959
@matthilton8959 3 года назад
When nudging the focuser and counting the steps until it moves. Am I looking for the fine focus or the bigger focus wheel to move?
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
I always just watch for the fine focus knob to move
@matthilton8959
@matthilton8959 3 года назад
@@Astrobloke cheers. Just been yapping on twitter to you about it, advised me to change to trends @bungsaatropics
@Astrobloke
@Astrobloke 3 года назад
@@matthilton8959 Hi Matt. cool. Yes with my refractor I just use trends. Hyperbolic with my RC8 and Parabolic with my newtonian. I have found that to be the best results. If you get big deviations still try adjusting your focus step =/- 5-10 and see if it improves either way
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