ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe 4.0 X4 Quad card Heat and Speed Test Comparison 

Hello porklaser, Welcome! Excellent! Amazing how this aspect of Computer technology has exploded yet not enough supported options are available. Lots of junk out there! Appreciate Your Comments!

Hi Chris, Welcome! Excellent! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching! Are You planning on installing an ASUS X16 Hyper Quad card? Does Your Motherboard have the required CPU PCIe Lane Resources and support Bifurcation? Have to ask! Hope to help!

Hello Jeff, Excellent! I'm honored! We have to know Motherboard for Context!

Hello Richard Kellog, Welcome! Indubitably, indeed! Appreciate Your Comments! Thank You for Watching!

Hi Max Hughes, Absolutely! Answering Subscribers Questions! Going to be interesting when We get to PCIe 5.0! Results! Details matter!

Hi Pirates Army, Thank You very much for Watching!

Hello tao4124, Welcome! Currently working on adding to Our Production capabilities! I'm now FAA Part 107 Certified. Commercial Drone Pilot! Appreciate Your Comments!

Hi vampritt, And We've Tested just about every one of them and talked extensively about 6 Drive and 8 Drive cards! Thanks for Watching!

Hi M.J 12, Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! We're methodical for a purpose to document the technology. The What, Why and How of Quad cards! We've now Tested 3 ASUS, 1 Gigabyte and 1 ASRock, several different ways. We still have a 6 Drive card to Test! And We thought this was an esoteric Subject! Hardly! Then We went to Testing Dual M.2 NVMe Adapters and that lead to Testing Heatsinks! In the weeds and down the rabbit hole! Stay Tuned!

Hello sir1junior, Welcome! Excellent! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

Hi JSerenity, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

Hello kristianehac, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Short answer, yes - 2 Drives. Longer answer, depends upon Your Motherboard. Two requirements have to be met. 1. X16 PCIe Slot. 2. Motherboard Bios has to support Bios Bifurcation of at least 4X4 for 2 Drives. RAID is a separate issue if desired but not required! Hope that helps!

Thanks so much!! Think I will place my other drives in there as well then, and not run raid. You are such an asset to this community! Thanks again!

Hi AyeAyeRon, Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! Short Answer, not enough PCIe Resources. That 2nd x16 Slot Mechanically is x4 Electrically. Bummer! Longer Answer below. ASUS Tuf Gaming x570 plus (Wifi) www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI/ PDF Manual, Page 16. Motherboard Layout: - PCIex16_1 - PCIex16_2 - PCIex1_2 - M.2_1 - M.2_2 PDF Manual, Page 8. Specification Summary: Expansion Slots and Storage. To CPU - - PCIex16_1, x16 Electrically. - M.2_1, PCIe x4 Electrically. Not enough PCIe Lanes allocated to go around to do more! Through Chipset - - PCIex16_2 - x4 Electrically. - PCIex1_2 - x1 Electrically. - M.2_2, PCIe x4. Hope that helps! Thanks for Watching!

@@BuildOrBuy So are you saying not even one M.2 expansion would work in that slot with x4 power? Or is two possible, just not 4?

Hi John Paul Bacon, Welcome! Excellent Question! That one, You are the 1st! What We do know is 4 Drives in RAID 0 = the speed of 3 Drives. We can extrapolate roughly from that for PCIe 3.0 of 3,500MBps x 3 = 10,500MBps. And PCIe 4.0 is now at 7,200MBps, 3rd Generation Drives using Phison E18 and Micron memory. And... Adding insult to injury, PCIe 5.0 will be 15,000MBps on the Phison E26 Controller! Faster M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives are running faster and hotter! We have some PCIe 3.0 Cards still to test. Your Question gives Us a reason for those Tests as We Answer Subscribers Questions! One of those cards in particular utilizes a PLX Chip for Lane Switching. Upstream and Downstream ports. Thank You! Hope that helps! Appreciate Your Comments!

@@BuildOrBuy Yes, but what are the temperatures? How hot do the individual nvme drives get during a >30 minute sustained usage scenario, and how well does the asus hyper m.2 cool compared to the supermicro and/or other quad m.2 cards? Getting the answer to that specific question is why I came to this video. I want to know whether or not that puny fan can keep up with the heat generated from say 4 SN850's during sustained peak loads.

Hi@@jamesryan1716, Hi James Ryan, Welcome! Great Question! Once in Hybrid Bios Bootable RAID or Software O/S RAID, We lose telemetry on the individual Drives. Therefor, the reason fo so many Tests as We have done. In other words, We cannot read heat from the Thermistors on the individual M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives. Yes, We have Tested 3 ASUS, 1 ASRock and 2 Gigabyte Quad M.2 NVMe AICs. From what We have seen, the Fan on the AIC is sufficient although We would prefer a larger Fan such as Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme which will house 8 Drives but is not out yet. We have a Video on that AIC as well. Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking! BTW: We have Tested the Drives individually during Our Heat and Speed Tests. We have Temps from that using Sabrent Rocket 4 PCIe 4.0 Drives, 1st Generation. However, those We consider Burst mode Tests and not Sustained Throughput Tests.

Hi Wakish, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments For Monitors, how many, 8? OK, 2 GPUs. Depends. Will those GPUs be Bridged? Questions arise. Suggest keeping those Simple! Suggest either AMD Radeo Pro GPUs or NVIDIA RTX 3090 variety or RTX A series such as RTX A5000 which is 2 Slots wide. First concern will be the Bridge Connector thus NVIDIA! Next, as for Heat, if using Pro GPUs, those require less Power and also put out less heat. However, the RTX A5000 runs hot and should therefore be liquid Cooled. Options! Hope that helps! Let Us know when You're ready to talk Specs for Your new Creation! You'll prefer a Motherboard with 2 - X16 PCIe Slots, electrically! Motherboard Chipsets Rule! Success on Your Multi Monitor Computer Build!

@@BuildOrBuy Thank you for the reply What I have right now is an RX 580 8gb running x4 monitors on an ASUS X570 board. It handles these 4 monitors just fine and has another HDMI port for my TV, but I notice that I do drop in framerate in some games if I plug that in. If I could plug in my TV and one additional monitor that would be nice I play a game called Star Citizen which benefits greatly from being stored on as fast of a drive as possible, and also on a different drive than the OS I also have an old junk GPU, MSI N750Ti that should still work but I haven't tried it in my second slot yet I don't have an M.2 yet (may need 2) and am not sure if it would be better for me to use a PCIE adapter If the M.2 PCIE adapter is necessary for better speeds then I would need to upgrade my mobo to one with x3 slots Hopefully this all makes sense what I'm trying to do. Obviously I know it's not optimal to mix an AMD card with an Nvidia but it's just for more displays, but I also want to optimize specifically for Star Citizen Edit: And I know you specifically mentioned the X570 in your video, but I mean for my specific purposes (sorry for the huge wall of text)

Hi@@Wakish0069, Details matter! 1. To address Your Multiple Monitors on 1 GPU. You need a Workstation GPU. AMD Radeon Pro W6800 (newer) or Radeon Pro W9100 (older), both with 6 Mini DisplayPort connectors. Use HDMI to Mini DisplayPort Converters. That's what We do. Could not locate Radeon Pro W6800 on Amazon. Only on B&H and NewEgg. 2. Your Motherboard, do You have a Chipset Preference? Depending upon the age of what You have that change might be RAM, Motherboard and CPU! 3. M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0? Does Your current Motherboard support NVMe? Hope that helps!

Aren't the new 4 series GPU's preventing running dual?

Hi@@Freeflier1978, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Look how the Info has changed from 2 months ago! Even 1 month ago! Yes, at 3 Slots wide, Depends upon Motherboard chosen! Most will not. A HEDT, maybe. A Workstation Motherboard, yes at the expense of other PCIe Slots! NVIDIA RTX 4090 no longer supports NVLink - TechGoing www.techgoing.com/nvidia-rtx-4090-no-longer-supports-nvlink/?amp=1 “The reason we took [NVLink] off is that we need I/O for other things, so we’re using that area to cram in as many AI processors as possible,” Jen-Hsun Huang explained of the reason for axing NVLink. See: NVIDIA Omniverse... 3D Creator Connectors & Apps in Omniverse www.nvidia.com/en-us/omniverse/creators/ For gamers, creators and workstation users who want to crossfire multiple cards with the latest RTX 4000 series, NVIDIA’s removal of NVLink also enables similar support with PCIe Gen 5. GeForce RTX 4090 Graphics Cards for Gaming | NVIDIA www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/40-series/rtx-4090/ See: Full Specs 1. CUDA Core: 16,384 2. 24GBs VRAM 3. PCIe 4.0 4. NVIDIA Studio Drivers 5. NVIDIA Omniverse 6. NVIDIA NVLink - NO! 7. Connectors: 1 HDMI; 3 DisplayPort 8. 3 Slots wide 9. PSU: 850 Watts 10. 3 - 8 pin Power taps OR 450 Watt or greater PCIe 5.0 Power using ATX 3.0 PSU. Hope that clarification helps!

Hi Beany, Welcome! Yes, glad You brought that up! Windows has several ways to accomplish several other tasks as well. We prefer the original way although considered legacy since there are often times other features that need to be addressed from the Control Panel. Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

Hi LRGee Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Did You achieve Your objectives? Keep Us posted on Your Progress!

Hi Soren Hansen, Welcome! There are two types of Add in cards for multiple M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives. They require either Motherboard Bios / UEFI Bifurcation or they are self Bifurcated like the Highpoint or Glotrends Sky add in cards. All of the x16 and x8 M.2 NVMe PCIe Add in cards that require Motherboard Bifurcation are made for the HEDT (x299, x399, TRX40) or Workstation (WRX80) Platforms with Dedicated PCIe Resources. And there are other Workstation Chipsets that are also supported. Depends. Yes there are a few on lower end Chipsets with Shared Resources that can support a Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter. Specifically on the x570 Chipset, Shared PCIe Resources, the particular Slot must be x16, Electrically. And be able to fully Bifurcate said PCIe Slot. The x570 Chipset I think only supports partial Bifurcation, meaning x8x4x4. That might Support 3 Drives instead of 4. The System We're Testing on is the Gigabyte TRX40 Designare HEDT, PCIe 4.0 with Dedicated PCIe Resources. That is a Threadripper III. We have two x16 PCIe Slots and two x8 PCIe Slots, Dedicated, no Shared PCIe Resources. The Threadripper Pro is on the WRX80 Workstation Platform with more PCIe Resources, usually six x16 and one x8 PCIe Slot, Dedicated! Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!

Hello Jenairaslebol27merde, Welcome! Good Question! I'm the wrong person to ask about the noise from the M.2 Quad card Fan. Our Video Switch cooling Fans make more noise. We have that set at a constant, therefore the noise floor is like white noise and not noticeable. We have had Reports from other Subscribers who find the noise objectionable. Larger Fans make less noise and Produce better air flow. Remember when Cases went from 90mm to 120mm Fans. The noisiest Fans are typically Chipset Fans. Like a Screaming Banshee! We need better Cooling Solution Designs! That We learned from Testing M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive Heatsinks. In that area, the Passive Cooling Solutions outperformed the Active Cooling Solutions! And that was Fascinating to witness Results on all 16 M.2 Heatsinks! Hope that helps!

Hi king frozen, Welcome! Thank You very much! Most Appreciated!

Hi daslolo, Welcome! Indubitably! I'm honored!

Hi worthington, Welcome. Just now seeing Your comment. A good ol smoke test.

Hi Luan Phan, Welcome! Excellent Question! That will require a Video Response! Right after this next, Video Answering a Subscribers Questions! Appreciate Your Patience!

@@BuildOrBuy Thank you very much for the extra effort! I will be waiting.

Hi@@luanphan2706, Appreciate Your Patience! Interesting to note, We were working on a Video about this very Motherboard when We had a Question that took priority now this one too is a priority! Fascinating topic!

Hi TuxKey, Welcome! Great Question! Depends upon the Motherboard PCIe Resource allocations Design vs Implementation. Specifically which Motherboard, X670 Chipset and CPU? We have to look up every Motherboard asked about to verify. Bifurcation is a fascinating topic!

@@BuildOrBuy cool just googled what is PCIe Bifurcation. found a nice article on shuttleTitan. i'm assembling my build and my motherboard is going to be the "ASRock X670E Steel Legend" with the AMD 7950X. i usually use a build for 7+yr i'm not a gamer but i do a lot of virtualization. Thanks for your quick response hope that's a good Mobo. greetings from The Netherlands.

Hi@@samdeur, Greetings to the Netherlands! RAID should be seperated from Bifurcation. Two different technologies often grouped together since one can require the other but still they are seperate. Bifurcation is the Ability to Fork or Spilt. In this scenario, We're Seperating CPU PCIe Lanes in to Groups of Four Lanes each to Address each M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive. When requiring 8 Drives on one AIC, that Requires Active PCIe Self Bifurcation. The AIC has a built-in PLX Chip to do the Lane Switching. Hope that helps! Bifurcation Support is an issue on Consumer Desktop Motherboards with Shared PCIe Resources. And is a problem for Servers and Workstations. Change one thing changes everything!

Hi Darteous, Welcome! Congrats! Just keep it in the box until You can populate the card. Great Question! We are doing a lot of Testing while Answering Subscribers Questions. One issue was the association of the GPU to the Thunderbolt AIC which required a Firmware Update of the Thunderbolt AIC. Another issue was the problem of Testing Heatsinks that would not fit at the bottom of the Motherboard for Testing. And the third issue was to show that a single GPU can be placed in the 2nd x16 Slot once the Thunderbolt AIC was uncoupled from the GPU. The Thunderbolt AIC fits best in the last x8 Slot for the Testing of the (ASUS, ASRock and Gigabyte and Amfeltec Squid x16) x16 Quad AICs and x8 Quad AICs (GloTrends and Amfeltec Squid x8). Hope that helps!

Hi Ragalthor, Welcome! Great Question! That will not work! You do NOT have enough PCIe Resources. And I'm not certain if You can full Bifurcate that x16 Slot from x16 to x4x4x4x4. Bummer, right. You only have 20 PCIe Lane Resources to the CPU. x8 Speed meaning there are only 8 PCIe Lanes when We need all 16 Lanes for an Asus Hyper m.2 x16 card. Hope that helps!

Hello dahuchsi, Welcome! Not enough CPU PCIe Lanes for X16 unless Your GPU were using X8. Then You would still only have X8 for a Quad card which requires X16, electrically. And... Does Your Bios support CPU PCIe Lane Bifurcation? You would need a Self Bifurcated card that would work on X8 Lanes. There are several. Not certain any are currently available. 1. Syba Quad M.2 NVMe Ports to PCIe 3.0 x16 Bifurcation Riser Controller - Support Non-Bifurcation Motherboard amzn.to/3rcg8EN 2. Syba Dual M.2 M-Key NVMe Ports to PCIe 3.0 x16 Bifurcation Riser Controller - Support Non-Bifurcation Motherboard (SI-PEX40129) Requires X16 Slot amzn.to/44hexfQ 3. SABRENT 4-Drive NVMe M.2 SSD to PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter Card [EC-P3X4] amzn.to/3NYR2SR 4. StarTech.com Dual M.2 PCIe SSD Adapter Card - x8 / x16 Dual NVMe or AHCI M.2 SSD to PCI Express 3.0 - M.2 NGFF PCIe (M-Key) Compatible - Supports 2242, 2260, 2280 - JBOD - Mac & PC (PEX8M2E2) amzn.to/3pFx32j 5. Micro SATA Cables|PCIe x8 Gen4 for Bifurcated M.2 NVMe Dual Port AIC amzn.to/3D0wkfh 6. HighPoint Technologies Highpoint SSD7105 - PCIe 3.0 x16 Fully Bootable 4-Port M.2 NVMe RAID Controller amzn.to/44v0YJi 7. HighPoint Technologies SSD7540 PCIe 4.0 x16 8-Port M.2 NVMe RAID Controller amzn.to/3JLA6g6 8. QNAP QM2-2P-244A Dual M.2 22110/2280 Pcie SSD Expansion Card (PCIe Gen2 X4) amzn.to/3JK3gMw 9. Ableconn PEXM2-130 Dual PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD Adapter Card - PCI Express 3.0 x8, Supports 2X M.2 amzn.to/3XElPHK 10. Highpoint 4-Port M.2 SSD7505 PCIe Gen3/Gen4 NVMe Bootable RAID Controller for Windows & Linux amzn.to/3rhELAa 11. IO CREST Dual M.2 B-Key SATA SSD Converter PCI Express 3.0 x1 Expansion Card Heat Sink Jmicron JMB582 Chipset SI-PEX40153 amzn.to/3PHZLtR 12. Vantec Dual M.2 SSD RAID PCIe x4 Host Card (UGT-M2PC300R) amzn.to/3pwcJjZ 13. Highpoint SSD7101A-1 NVMe 4-Port M.2/U.2 Unbeatable Peformance/Comprehensive Selection; No-Bifurcation Required amzn.to/3D0Y8Qn 14. OWC Accelsior 8M2 Eight NVMe M.2 to PCIe Card Compatible with Mac Pro (Late 2019) and PC Towers amzn.to/3rlLfOe 15. Glotrends 4-Bay M.2 NVME Adapter, Support Non-Bifurcation Motherboard, Soft RAID, PCIE 3.0 X8 Bandwidth, Full Aluminum Panel with Built-in Fan (Sky) amzn.to/3XNIoKf As an Amazon Affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases! Of those Listed above, some require X16 while some only require X8. 16. Amfeltec Squid carrier board. Out of Canada. From X4 to X8. You'll have to ask for a Quote and be very Specific with Part names and numbers using their nomenclature. Lots of Options! Hope that helps! www.amfeltec.com/pci-express-carrier-boards-for-m-2-ssd-modules/

@@BuildOrBuy Well, you've earned a subscriber. You've answered my question in one fell swoop where even MSI tech support failed to encompass. So, I can use a self bifurcated card then. No, the MSI motherboards do not support bifurcation apparently. You're saying since my GPU is in the 1st PCIx16 lane the 2nd PCIx16 lane won't be able to use x16 only x8? Do you think any of those cards you linked would work fine then with the motherboard? It can still raid 0/1/5 with those cards? Would it even be a good option at this point for something like this? Or, should I just go the regular ole Sata SSD route? I REALLY appreciate your help.

Hello @@dahuchsi, Outstanding! I'm honored! Most but not all since You'll be using X8. The detail that makes those work is the PLX Chipset doing the Lane Switching. Not all are always Available. Most are available. And not everyone is consistent with the nomenclature. We have a Video on the Amfeltec Squid carrier board and the Glotrends Sky cards. We have not Tested the efficacy of the others. And doing a search will not show what We're aware of which is crazy. We are continually looking for these types of cards. Once You start using M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives, anything slower is a nuisance. Glad We could help!

Hi Flash Backs, Welcome! Depends. Not necessarily. Some M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives utilize either a Label or back plate type label made of copper Designed to help dissipate Heat. As We have previously stated on some of the 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe Heatsink Tests, We leave labels on. If You choose to remove such, that is Your choice. We would not otherwise know which drive is which since We do so many different Tests with so many different Components. Furthermore, All Tests are Conducted for uniformity in a Default Configuration. Your Results may vary. Hope that helps!

Hi Hawk, Thank You! I'm Honored! We're Data Junkies! And requires a x16 PCIe Slot, electrically and Bifurcated! What Motherboard are You using? The Chipset is my concern. Best Drives for the Price or Speed? Either the WD Black SN850 or Seagate FireCuda 530! Larger Drives 1TB vs 2TB are typically faster since they use denser chips. Hope that helps!

@@BuildOrBuy I have the Asus WRX80 Pro.

Hi@@lhbbq, Perfect! Smart choice! You could run 4 Quad cards! Do the math on that for 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives! Whew! I mention this since We have been asked that very question. I have not heard back from that Viewer yet. Better to invest in a great GPU for Rendering! 1 Quad card makes sense. 2 maybe. 4, just because We can does not always bear relevance on the over all picture of Success! Best Wishes! Thanks for Sharing!

@@BuildOrBuy thank you so much! I appreciate your information!

Hi@@lhbbq, Absolutely! Here to help! Appreciate Your Comments and Support!

Hello famousnikhil, Welcome! Can You be more Specific? Both OWC and Sonnet M.2 NVMe PCIe Add in card work in Macs. Cards as described in this and Our other Videos do NOT work in Macs. The Distinction? Bios Bifurcation vs a Self Bifurcated card with a PLX Lane Switching Chipset. Macs require the latter and do not support the former. To reiterate, Macs do NOT support Bios Bifurcation. Macs can only use cards that are Self Bifurcated. What is Bifurcation? The forking or splitting of PCIe Lanes on a PCIe Slot. Hope that helps!

Hi Noam Lavi, Welcome! Not a Preference but a Requirement in Solving a Problem while Answering Viewers Questions. Originally there was what We called a Bus Prioritization issue. Meaning? Originally the Thunderbolt AIC and GPU had to be next to each other. Once the Motherboard Bios was Updated and the Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 AIC V1 had a Firmware Update, all was good. And those 2 could be seperated. And We proceeded through all of the Quad cards to verify. Had a similar issue Originally on WRX80 Workstation Motherboards. The Bios was not able to allocate CPU PCIe Resources to 4 GPUs. Growing pains! Crazy, right. So that's the story on what, why and how for that Topic! Glad You asked! Hope that helps! Yes the Preference is GPU next to CPU but does not have to be that way.

Hi joaosidonio, Welcome. The Hyper card supports M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives. Your Bios must Support Bifurcation. The ability to change a X16 Slot to X4X4X4X4. Each M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive requires 4 PCIe Lanes.

Hi Santiago Glew, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Another one coming Up! The Gigabyte Aorus x16 Quad card! Thanks for Watching! Stay Tuned!

Hi T Dingman, Welcome! Great Question! We've worked with ASRock, ASUS and Gigabyte. Suggest sticking with ASUS since You have an ASUS Motherboard. Easier to deal with Support if same Brand. Hope that helps! We are Our own best Support! Success on Your Installation! Thanks for Watching!

Hi Grant Fahey, Welcome! Have You considered Hardware RAID? Numbers sound about right. That tells me Your M.2 NVMe Drives are PCIe 4.0, 1st Generation. A Hybrid Bios Bootable RAID 0 would be the Speed of 3 Drives. Overhead. Thanks for Sharing! How are You using Your RAID 10?

@@BuildOrBuy Its for high speed storage in our office, it contains all of our customer data that is accessed simultaneously by 6 people, 3 of which are connected with 10gbps ethernet. The drives are samsung 980 pros, rated at 6400mbps each. Its on an ASUS Pro WS X570-Ace, which I was unable to get to play nice with raid through the bios, so its just a software raid in windows, not ideal, but not bad.

Hi@@grantfahey4439, Understand. Gets the job done! Thanks for Sharing! This helps Us to make better Videos as We Answer Subscribers Questions!

@@BuildOrBuy I recently found a SSD adapter that will get up to 7,000 MB/s on read and write speeds. Its called AMPCOM M.2 NVME SSD to PCIe 4.0 Adapter Card, 64Gbps SSD PCIe4.0 X4 Adapter for Desktop PC ,PCI-E GEN4 Full Speed. I'm curious if your familiar with this adapter? Do you know of any other adapters that allows real fast read and writes speeds? Please let me know what your take is on this, thanks.

Hi@@NeverTrustGovrnmentOrGlobalist, This one: AMPCOM M.2 NVME SSD to PCIe 4.0 Adapter Card, 64Gbps SSD PCIe4.0 X4 Adapter for Desktop PC , PCI-E GEN4 Full Speed amzn.to/3Fq4zMB Know about it. Have not used that brand. This brand below We have Tested but not that particular card. GLOTRENDS M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0/3.0 Adapter with 0.12 Inch Thick M.2 Heatsink for M.2 PCIe SSD (NVMe and AHCI), PCI-E GEN4 Full Speed, Desktop PC Installation (PA09-HS) amzn.to/3Jw8ZUP As an Amazon Affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases! Either one. Single M.2 NVMe Drive. Requires 4 PCIe Lanes. No Bifurcation required. Hope that helps!

Hi BrokenTrashman, Welcome! Ah ha! Excellent Question! This goes to asking about Your Motherboard! As a general rule, Consumer Desktop Motherboards only have one X16 PCIe Slot, electrically. To reiterate, there are no Consumer Desktop Motherboards with 2 - X16 PCIe Slots, electrically. Another way to answer Your Question, tell Us which Motherboard, Chipset and CPU You're using. Quad cards of this type require a Bios Bifurcated X16 PCIe Slot. On a Consumer Desktop Motherboard, that will be the 1st X16 PCIe Slot. Guess what happens to the Primary PCIe Slot when using the 2nd PCIe Slot. They will Share PCIe Resources. And that's not going to to work with a Quad card which requires Dedicated PCIe Resources! To reiterate, Your Specs. We'll explain what You have and Specifics on how this works on Your Motherboard!

Hi Michael Kosmider, Welcome! Just now seeing this under Channel Comments section! Appreciate Your Comments! We have other more pressing issues to deal with and resolve right now! Thanks for Watching!

Hi Dax Gaming, Welcome! Absolutely! That's the 1st step in Configuration, getting the Hyper card and 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives Installed and Recognized by the Bios. Requires 1 x16 PCIe Slot, electrically. Bifurcated or Split from x16 to x4x4x4x4. The ASUS Bios or UEFI references this to RAID but that naming convention is a misnomer. RAID would be the next Step whether in Bios / UEFI or O/S in Configuration if so desired but to reiterate not required. Hope that clarity helps! Thanks for Asking!

@@BuildOrBuy thanks so much. I've been looking at the literature and was puzzled if it could be 4 seperate. Thanks for confirming I'm running a asus rog crosshair hero viii wifi, so need to check all is good.

Hi@@daxgaming6391, That may be a problem. What Chipset? I'd like to do a Video response to explain the what, why and how. Also, which GPU?

@@BuildOrBuy that sounds great. the rog crosshair hero viii wifi is a AMD X570 ATX gaming motherboard with PCIe 4.0, 16 power stages , OptiMem III, 2.5 Gbps LAN, USB 3.2, SATA, M.2, and Aura Sync RGB lighting. CPU is the AMD 5950x with a MSI RTX 3080 TI suprimx 12gb.GPU

Hi@@daxgaming6391, Video Response Premiere's tomorrow! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yhCswjtumA4.html Hope that helps!

Hello lgtv smart, Welcome! Verifying what You have: MSI Mag X570 Tomahawk WiFi www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-X570-TOMAHAWK-WIFI Two Requirements. 1. A X16 PCIe Slot, electrically not just mechanically. 2. Full Bios Bifurcation of Slot. On that Chipset, has to be Primary Slot. Verify Slot Configuration Options in Bios. On Your Motherboard, 3. PCI_E1 = X16, electrically 4. PCI_E3 = X4, electrically Specifications, Overview of Components, Block Diagram and PCI_E1~4: PCIe Expansion Slots Diagram all indicate same. Don't know about Your Bios. You'll have to Verify those Settings. Hope that helps! Now to the next Question, do You want Your GPU to be in a X4 Slot? Not really! Next option? A Self Bifurcated Add in card that could utilize a X4 Lane Slot. Doable. That type of AIC will Cost more than Your Motherboard. Bummer. Next Option? New Build with more PCIe Resources! What's Your Reasoning for a Quad card? More Storage? Faster Storage? Your Motherboard is PCIe 3.0. New Motherboard. New Build. A good reason to Build!

Hello Silver Dragon TM, Welcome! Thank You! ESD is a curios subject. Experience is the best Teacher! You would be amazed at the ignorance voiced over that Subject. Even after quoting copious amounts of literature on ESD from the likes of Intel, AMD and everyone else in electronics. Appreciate Your Comments! We delete those who do not contribute to the conversation.

Steve of Gamers Nexus debunked this in a video 2 years ago.

Hello cars103, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! A Quad card, which Slot. Good question. 2nd Slot for 2 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives. What happens to GPU in 1st Slot. Runs X8. Why? PCIEX16_1 and PCIEX16_2 Share CPU PCIe Lanes. Therefor utilizing both simultaneously, each becomes X8, electrically. What about PCIEX16_3. Mechanically X8. Electrically, X4. Meaning only X4 PCIe Lanes. Out of PCIe Resources! Hope that helps! Always a Fascinating Topic!

Thank you so much for your answer! worth gold, really. so would it make any sense then to put that adapter card in my system in general? would set up raid0 on it with the two m.2 in there. bifurcated- then 8 lanes would be good. But I could also just put another m.2 in my m.2_2 slot and another one in my m.2_3 ( through chipset then) or will I really profit any speed from the pcie m2 card with raid0?

Hello@@cars103, Solving Problems and Providing Solutions! Glad We could help! That's an either OR Question. Which one gives You what You want? Remember: PCIEX16_2 slot shares Bandwidth with M.2_2, which runs at PCIe 4.0/3.0 X8 by default. When M.2_2 is enabled, PCIEX16_2 will run PCIe 4.0/3.0 X4 mode, adjust this item in BIOS settings. Use what You have. Hope that helps!

Thank you again for that answer! ❤ Knowing that populating the PCIe #2 will slow down my GPU to 8x but that causes only 1-3% of perfomance - I guess putting the Asus m.2 x16 Adapter Card in PCIe #2 would be the best solution. Last subquestion..:) I will install 2x Firecuda 530 in there. Will striping raid0 will really boost read/write speeds there? Is it really noticable? Or should I just set them up as 2 regular volumes? I do 3D rendering- lots of simulation caching/ scratching/ file streaming to 3D apps/ After Effects. And: In any case I have to bifourcate PCIe #2 in Bios to 4x4, right?

Hi@@cars103, Gld We could help! The Question of RAID for this type of RAID... The combination of 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives equals the Speed of 3 combined M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives. Why? Overhead. Generally this type of RAID offers capacity and speed. Most Users using this type of RAID do not care about redundancy. A PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive in RAID will not speed up Rendering. Processing power combining CPU and GPU will influence speed of Rendering. As always, Test and Verify. RAID can be PITA if and when things go South. Keep that in mind. Yes, Bios Bifurcation. Hope that helps! Appreciate Your Support!

Hi dberry99, Welcome! Great Question! Let's look at Your Motherboard PCIe Resource allocations for Slots and Storage. ASUS ROG Maximus X Code X370 Chipset rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-x-code-model/spec/ 1. PCIEX16_1 - X4 2. PCIEX16_2 - Partial Bios Bifurcation. Supports: (x16, x8/x8, or x8/x4+x4) Would only see 2 Drives. Why? To reiterate, Your Motherboard only Supports Partial Bios Bifurcation. This Add-in card Requires Full Bios Bifurcation from X16 to X4X4X4X4. Not enough CPU PCIe Lanes either. Best option: A Self Bifurcated Add-in card as opposed to this Bios Bifurcated Add-in card. Requirement: 1 - X16 Slot, electrically not just mechanically! Brands: Highpoint, Glotrends Sky or Amfeltec Squid 6 Drive add in card. Only Highpoint has PCIe 4.0. The other two are only PCIe 3.0. 1. Highpoint SSD7103 - PCIe 3.0 x16 4-Port M.2 NVMe RAID AIC RAID Controller Card - Bootable amzn.to/3FAjTHP 2. Glotrends 4-Bay M.2 NVME Adapter, Support Non-Bifurcation Motherboard, Soft RAID, PCIE 3.0 X8 Bandwidth, Full Aluminum Panel with Built-in Fan (www.amfeltec.com/pci-express-carrier-boards-for-m-2-ssd-modules/ Only Requires PCIe 3.0 X8 Slot. amzn.to/3HMCPWu 3. Glotrends 4-Bay M.2 NVME Adapter, Soft RAID Support, Up to PCIe 3.0 X8 Bandwidth, Aluminum Cover with Built-in Fan (Palace). Requires PCIe 3.0 X16 Slot. amzn.to/3W5gIPi 4. Amfeltec Squid Carriet Boards 2 to 6 Drive Add-in Cards www.amfeltec.com/pci-express-carrier-boards-for-m-2-ssd-modules/ Self Bifurcated Add-in Cards cost as much or more than CPU and Motherboards due to the PLX Chipset which does the Lane Switching for Bifurcation. An expensive Chipset! Hope that helps!

@@BuildOrBuy Thank you so much for the speedy and thorough reply! The $450 card is exactly what I need and with $1600 of M.2 drives I think I can squeeze an extra 2 FPS out of CoD in my 4 year old gaming PC. I'm further heartened by the knowledge that there is very little that can't be solved with an absurd amount of money or duct tape.

Hi@@dberry99, Absolutely! Good timing! Glad to help! All about knowing Our Options! Anything is possible! Let Us know of Your Success once You're up and running! Motherboards now, as everyone is asking, is all about Slots and Storage for PCIe Resource allocations! Or bubble gum and bailing wire!

Hi Christian Hoffman, Welcome! Great Question! Too vague. There are currently 56 LGA2011 Motherboards Listed. Every Motherboard has Different Resource allocations. We need to know Motherboard Brand & Model, Chipset and CPU to Answer Your Question about the ASUS Hyper M.2 NVMe PCIe Quad card which has 2 Requirements. 1. X16 Slot, electrically not just mechanically. 2. Full Bios Bifurcation from X16 to X4X4X4X4. If Your Motherboard does not have adequate CPU PCIe Resources then the next Option would be a Self Bifurcated card. Those are about the price of Motherboard or CPU. Those will Require either X16 or X8. Depends upon Your Motherboard and what it can provide. As to the M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives, Yes. Backwards compatible. Buy M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives based on price. Yes to reiterate for backward compatibility, Lanes are the same. Only different is Bus speed, PCIe 3.0 or PCIe 4.0. Hope that helps!

Thank you for the quick reply the motherboard in question is the X10DRH-iLN4 by supermicro

Hi@@Cherrios531, Absolutely! Good timing! Supermicro X10DRH-iLN4 Bifurcation www.supermicro.com/support/faqs/faq.cfm?faq=28339 That Motherboard does not Support Full Bios Bifurcation on any Slot, Only Partial. Ideal for the Supermicro Dual M.2 NVMe PCIe Adapter. See: Supermicro AOC-SLG3-2M2 PCIe Add-On Card for up to Two NVMe SSDs amzn.to/3jdmEXV As an Amazon Affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases! Hope that helps!

Hi trailerofdead, Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! We try! Here to help! Here goes... MSI Meg Godlike X570 and 5950X with 2x 3090. www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X570-GODLIKE.html Looking at Your Motherboard Specs, PDF Page 33. 1. PCI_E1 = PCIe 4.0 x16 - RTX 3090 2. PCI_E2 = PCIe 4.0 x4 3. PCI_E3 = PCIe 4.0 x8 - RTX 3090 4. PCI_E4 = PCIe 4.0 x4 And 2x RTX 3090s. Your 1st RTX 3090 is x16. Your 2nd RTX 3090 is x8. 3rd, Out of PCIe Resources! Your other 2 PCIe Slots are x4, electrically. Bummer, right. To utilize Your MSI expander Quad card, that would have to be in the 1st x16 Slot since each M.2 NVMe requires 4 PCIe Lanes hence a x16 Sot, electrically not just mechanically. You could install 1 M.2 NVMe PCIe Drive in each slot since each M.2 NVMe Drive Requires 4 PCIe Lanes. To reiterate, no Quad card! Not possible! Not even a Dual M.2 Adapter! Here's a great example of the PCIe Slot and Lane assignment choices made by MSI. Obsolescence by design! This deserves a Video in Answering Subscribers Questions! That way, We can help more Subscribers understand these PCIe Resource allocations according to Your Motherboard and how Vendors are prioritizing those options! Stay Tuned!

@@BuildOrBuy Thank you for your great quick response. Thanks. I already thought that I would need full x16Lance for 4x 4 M.2. It says so on the menu itself. I thank you very generously for your help. I will pursue you. In this sense, I have to wait for Intel Sapphire Rapids, because they have a lot of Lance available. But unfortunately it still takes a while before they come onto the market. and Threadripper 3975x + unfortunately have too little boost and the architecture is out of date. Best regards. :-)

Yes, I understand everything. To win 4 lance I need the 2nd GPU with x4lance. That will not do. Haha best regards

HI@@Trailerofdead, Excellent! Success and Best Wishes! This might help, later! Stay Tuned! *AMD's AM5 platform will launch in 2022 with support for PCIe 5.0* www.xda-developers.com/amds-am5-platform-will-launch-in-2022-with-support-for-ddr5-and-pcie-5-0/amp/

Thank you so munch

Hi Võ Hoàng Sơn, Welcome! Gladly! ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 PCIe 4.0 Quad card standoffs = M.2 2.4mm standoffs. Trying to Source them! No stock! Found on Amazon 2.5mm but still a bit too tall! Let Us know if You locate a Source. ASUS does not have that Part Listed. Bummer!

@@BuildOrBuy Thank you so much for your kind help! Much obliged!!! I bought one from local online shop, and I didn't notice that I'm buying "tray" version, which is the AIC alone, no stand screws or rubber pads. I've ordered some "low height stand screws" from China, since seller doesn't not provide precise measurement, I can only crossfinger this. Will keep you posted about this.

Hi@@vohoangson5792, Absolutely! Never seen one in OEM, Tray packaging. Have only seen Motherboards and CPUs sold that way. But not in a long time. Odd no screws. Yes, keep Us Posted on Your Progress!

Hi Sourav, Welcome! Great Questions. What You're asking depends upon the Motherboard and CPU. Design vs Implementation. To support one of these types of cards a Motherboard has 3 Requirements in order that are as follows: 1. PCIe 3.0 or above 2. A X16 PCIe Slot, electrically not just mechanically 3. Bios Bifurcation which means to Fork or Split. Now to Your Question. How are the Drives seen depends upon how the Motherboard Bios is Configured. If the Hardware supports the Configuration so too shall the O/S. Tell Us Your Motherboard CPU and Chipset then We can be Specific on what Your Motherboard can Support. Every Motherboard has a different PCIe Configuration. Some Chipsets are better suited than others to accommodate this fascinating technology! Hope that helps! Now why can You not find those answers We've just Outlined? Obfuscation! Crazy right! And that's what We do, Solving Problems and Providing Solutions! Everything will fall into place once We understand the technology of Bifurcation.

Using pcie 3.0 above Using ax16 But buffrication not know. Using msi pro b660 a bord I5 12gen processor

Hi@@souravpramanick2432, MSI Pro B660-A DDR4, according to Your Motherboard PDF Manual under, PCI_E1~5: PCIe Expansion Slots. 1. PCI_E1 is CPU PCIe 4.0 X16, electrically. 2. PCI_E3 is Chipset PCIe 3.0 X4, electrically. 3. The other 3 Slots are Chipset PCIe 3.0 X1 Slots, electrically. To reiterate, You only have 1 PCIe 4.0 Slot using CPU Lanes. Therefore Your GPU would have to be in a 4 Lane Chipset Slot. Not ideal. Bios User Guide: download.msi.com/manual/mb/Intel600BIOS.pdf In Bios User Guide, See: CPU PCIe Lanes Configuration. That's where You'll change from X16 to X4X4X4X4. That's the Bifurcation Setting. Hope that helps! What You need is a Motherboard, CPU and Chipset that supports 2 X16 CPU PCIe Slots, electrically not just mechanically.

@@BuildOrBuy not found that's option X16 to X4X4X

Hi@@souravpramanick2432, If Supported will be above, Re-Size BAR Support. Do You see that Setting? The PDF Motherboard Manual only indicates, CPU PCIe Lanes Configuration. But does not specifically indicate the Setting. You'll have to Verify any discrepancy from Manual vs actual Bios.

Hello El Diablo, Welcome! Depends. What's Your Motherboard and CPU? If X299 Chipset, all of that matters for PCIe Lane count.

Hi biskero, Welcome! Great Question! Yes! To reiterate, PCIe Bios Bifurcation is Required. There are 2 types of Bifurcation. PCIe Bios Bifurcation and Self Bifurcated Add in cards like Highpoint. Link below. Right now, ASUS, ASRock, MSI and Gigabyte Add in cards Require PCIe Bios Bifurcation. Gigabyte announced the Gigabyte Aorus Gen5 AIC over a Year ago which will be Self Bifurcated. The Significance? A Fully populated Self Bifurcated 8 Drive card. Link on that Press Release also below. There are Self Bifurcated cards Requiring anything from X4 to X8 to X16 PCIe Slot, electrically. We have several Videos on the cards mentioned as well as others in this field. 1. Highpoint SSD7540 NVMe 8-Port M.2/U.2 Industry Fastest-Performance/Comprehensive Selection Capable of Supporting Over 100TB On a Single Controller amzn.to/3Z45efU 2. Highpoint 4-Port M.2 SSD7505 PCIe Gen3/Gen4 NVMe Bootable RAID Controller for Windows & Linux amzn.to/3IbPhh5 As an Amazon Affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases! 3. Gigabyte Aorus Gen5 AIC Press Release - Dated 8-22-22 www.gigabyte.com/Press/News/2018 We created a Video speculating on the Performance of that Card. Had no idea We were to be way to early on releasing that Video. Hope that helps! What Motherboard, CPU and Chipset are You using? We might be able to help with more Information. This is a fascinating topic!

@@BuildOrBuy thanks a lot for the information, I have a Asus Z10PE D8 workstation motherboard and wanted to have several NVMe installed on one pcie slot to run Proxmox and other VMs. Looks like this mb does not have biforcation in the bios so was looking for a solution if possible other than occupy all pcie lanes!

Hi@@biskero, Timing on the Release of this Motherboard is part of the problem. A Technology transition from PCIe 2.0 on Chipset to PCIe 3.0 on CPU. The ASUS Bifurcation chart has Nothing about C612 Chipset. Bummer. Therefore, an Active Self Bifurcated AIC as You have asked about. Next Question, how may Drives, 2, 4, 6 or 8? Active PCIe Self Bifurcated AICs: 1. Highpoint - 2, 4 or 8. Requires X16 PCIe Slot. PCIe 3.0 and PCIe 4.0 AICs. 2. Amfeltec Squid Carrier Board - 2, 4 or 6. Requires X16 or X8 with Optional replaceable PCIe Edge Connector. PCIe 3.0 only. www.amfeltec.com/gen-3-pci-express-carrier-board-for-6-minipci-express-modules/ 3. Glotrends Sky - 4. Requires X8 PCIe Slot. PCIe 3.0 only. Currently out of stock. amzn.to/3YSLlbQ 4. Glotrends Palace - 4. Requires X16 PCIe Slot. Also out of stock. amzn.to/3I9r5vP As an Amazon Affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases! 5. RIITOP - 2 as You have mentioned. 6. Liqid Honeybadger - Servers only. Noisy and expensive AIC. Wow! Gone! May be a name change to IO Accelerators www.liqid.com/products/io-accelerators Options. You only wanted a 2 Drive AIC. More than You asked. Hope that helps!

Hi Sr Chalice, Always Supply and Demand. Same is true for spinning Drives. Unfortunate. And the 8TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives are even more expensive. Probably the best on Price and Performance based on Specs would be the 2TB Drives.

@@BuildOrBuy damn I've yet to even seen a 8 TB m.2. I shall take your word for it and go on a search, especially on that price to performance. Thanks man, hopefully one damn they'll look more attractive in the pricing department.

Hi@@SrChalice, Hope You're sitting down when You click on the link! Sabrent Rocket Q 8TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive R/W 3300/2900MB/s (SB-RKTQ-8TB) amzn.to/3oDhS6J As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. As You can see, only PCIe 3.0, topping out at 3,300MBps. Nothing of that Capacity on PCIe 4.0. PCIe 5.0 with the Phison E26 Controller is closing in on Us fast! And faster! Pun intended! Phison Is Enabling Custom PCIe Gen 5 SSDs to Ship in 2022 www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210928005368/en/Phison-Is-Enabling-Custom-PCIe-Gen-5-SSDs-to-Ship-in-2022 Stay Tuned!

Hi Kevin Lee, Welcome! You want to install as ASUS M.2 x16 Quad card? Yes! ASRock nomenclature makes that really difficult to understand a very simple procedure. Just remember to Bifurcate that Slot. ASRock x399 Taichi with Bios: P1.90 or newer. www.asrock.com/mb/amd/x399%20taichi/index.asp www.anandtech.com/show/11685/amd-threadripper-x399-motherboards Motherboard Support List, See: Intel X399 Platform www.asrock.com/mb/spec/product.asp?Model=ULTRA%20QUAD%20M.2%20CARD#SupportList UEFI, Advanced AMD PBS - PCIex4 1*16 / 4*4 Switch 64 PCIe Gen3 lanes PDF Manual, Page 8 - Specifications, PCIe Slots PDF Manual, Page 8 - Specifications, Storage PDF Manual, Page 13 - Motherboard Layout PDF Manual, Page 28 - Expansion Slots PDF Manual, Page 83 - AMD PBS 4 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 Slots to CPU 1. PCIex1 = x16 2. PCIex2 = x8 3. PCIex3 = x1 - Through Chipset 4. PCIex4 = x16 - M.2 x16 Quad card in this Slot according to ASRock. 5. PCIex5 = x8 3 x PCI Express 3.0 M.2 Connectors to CPU 6. M2_1 7. M2_2 8. M2_3 4 Lanes Connect Chipset to CPU. Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking! That took some digging!

@@BuildOrBuy thanks for responding! If I'm understanding this if I put the raid into pcie slot 4 of the x399 asrock board then I'm able to do a 4x 4tb raid? And slot 3 pcie will only let me have 3 m.2?

Hi@@therealkevinleee, Absolutely! You have 2 x16 Lane Slots, electrically and 2 x8 Slots, electrically. Accordingly You can have 1 x16 M.2 QUAD card. If one of the x8 Slots can be Bifurcated in the UEFI Bios then that Slot can handle a Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter only. Hope that clarification helps.

@@BuildOrBuy I think I actually get it thanks so much!

Hi@@therealkevinleee, Bifurcation should not be do complicated. ASRock obfuscates that detail. I had to look up Your Bios settings according to the ASRock Quad Adapter for Your ASRock x399 Motherboard. That was most interesting and enlightening! Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking! Success on Your Build!

Hi Monzer, Excellent Question! To be Specific give Us a Specific Motherboard and CPU. Every Motherboard has a different PCIe Resource allocation. And some Chipsets are better suited to this task than others. Based on that Chipset Your Options will be limited. Also depends upon the Brand. For example, only one Vendor excels at supporting the technology required to make this work.

Hi Kevin Nguyen2, Welcome! Excellent Question! By Motherboard Bios Bifurcation! What Motherboard are You using? We'll take a look and see if and how that's supported on Your Motherboard! Every Motherboard is different in how they Configure and Allocate Motherboard PCIe Resources! Bifurcation is a technology trickling down from Server technologies. That's the ability to fork or spilt PCIe Resources from X16, electrically to 4x4x4x4. Remember, each M.2 NVMe PCIe Drive requires 4 PCIe Lanes, hence Bifurcation! Hope that helps! Now, Your Motherboard and CPU? This may require a Video Response. Depends. Consumer Desktop Motherboards are more complicated to configure due to Shared vs Dedicated PCIe Resources.

@@BuildOrBuy Thanks for your reply.

Hi@@kevinnguyen2949, Absolutely! Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!

Hi CiliskyTV, Welcome! What CPU Are You using? Short Answer... We have to look at Design vs Implementation of Motherboard, CPU and Chipset and see what's possible. Without looking, probably not possible due to CPU PCIe Resources. And that's a problem on Consumer Desktop Motherboards. This AIC Requires 2 things, a PCIe X16 Slot, electrically and Motherboard Bifurcation. I'll check and verify if You like once We have that detail.

@@BuildOrBuy im using the Ryzen 3600 sir

Hi@@HuntaKiller91, Not possible for this Design and Implementation. That 2nd Slot is X16, mechanically but not electrically. 2nd Slot is PCIe 3.0 X4, electrically. You have enough CPU PCIe 4.0 Lanes for Primary X16 Slot and Primary M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive, 16 + 4 + 4 = 24 CPU PCIe 4.0 Lanes. Last 4 Lanes tie Chipset to CPU. Ryzen 3600 has 24 PCIe 4.0 Lanes ASUS TUFF Gaming B550-Plus 1. CPU: 1 - PCIe 4.0 X16 Slot, electrically. 2. Chipset: 1 - PCIe 3.0 X4 Slot, electrically. 3. 3 - PCIe 3.0 X1 Slots. Supports PCIe Bifurcation for RAID on CPU. Another way to look at this, to install this ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe Quad card would require installation in: PCIEX16_1 to see and utilize 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives. In Slot 2, PCIEX16_2, You would only see 1 Drive since only 4 Lanes are available on that 2nd Slot. Bummer, right. Specs: Supports: 2 - M.2 and 6 SATA To CPU: 1 - M.2; Through Chipset: 1 - M.2 Supports RAID 0, 1, 10 "TUF GAMING B550-PLUS｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global" www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-B550-PLUS/ That's always an issue on a Consumer Desktop Motherboard! Some Chipsets do a better job with CPU PCIe Resources however, 24 CPU PCIe Lanes are not enough to go around to do everything. We have to do this on every Motherboard to verify the Design and Implementation. To get 2 - X16 PCIe Slots, electrically would require a HEDT like X299 or X399 Chipsets. Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking! BTW: What GPU will You be using? Do You want Your GPU in a X4 or x16 Slot?

@@BuildOrBuy thank u sir So all i need later is just buy a ryzen5000? Or i just stick the hypercard on the first pcie and gpu on second pcie?

Hi@@HuntaKiller91, Glad to help! You're welcome! To reiterate, stick GPU in 2nd Slot and Quad card must be in 1st Slot. Success! A new CPU, as mentioned, will have more CPU Cores and Faster CPU Lanes but not MORE CPU Lanes. You would need a HEDT or Workstation Motherboard.

Hi Gary Miller, Welcome! Just now seeing Your message! Great Question! We expect that to be an issue but have not Tested yet. You may by now have more current info to Share with Us based on Your experience! Appreciate Your Question!

@@BuildOrBuy They would not fit. I ended up using the non-heatsink version. Thanks for the reply.

Hi@@DoYouLikeThisName, Absolutely! Understandable. Thanks for Sharing!

Hi Hawk, Welcome! Congrats! M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0, 1st and 2nd Generation SSD Drives run cooler on a Quad card than they do under a Motherboard Heatsink! Interesting!

ME TOO. ASUS Hyper GEN4 AIC. I just can't test the GEN4 drives on amything but an old X399 PCIe GEN3 cpu lane MOBO. 3500/3500 isn't a real temp test.

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Agreed. PCIe 4.0 and above! This was surprising. We've had requests for this for some time. One Subscriber had Commented that they thought M.2 NVMe Drives on a Quad card ran hotter. Hardly. Fascinating Results again! Next up, the Gigabyte Aorus M.2 x16 Quad card!

Hi Jay, Welcome! Been busy. Added to Our Video Production capabilities. And that has taken off in a big way! More BuildOrBuy videos coming! I'm now FAA 107 Certificated for sUAS! Aerial Photo Video Production specializing in Twilight Aerials!

@@BuildOrBuy Glad to hear from you. I do not understand what " FAA 107 Certificated for sUAS! " has to do with computer parts videos ???

Hi arun raj, Welcome! Just now seeing Your message. Interesting Question without knowing Your Specs. As to the technology, GRAID. A GPU based RAID instead of CPU based RAID. We Premiered a Video today about GRAID although We did not mention IOPS. However, that is the way to maximize Performance! Links in the Description. GRAID SupremeRAID WRX80 Workstation Build Specs ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BD8NOqaBz7k.html Hope that helps! Thanks for asking!

Hello Robert, Welcome! Excellent! Thank You for Your Comments!

Hi Tuan Mello, Welcome! We have more to get into on this than You may be aware of. What CPU are You using? Your Question may require a Video Response!

my cpu is ryzen 5600x

Hi@@tautau22BR And Your GPU?

@@BuildOrBuy rx 5700xt

Hi@@tautau22BR, Ok. Thanks. I don't think You have enough PCIe Resources to Add a X16 Quad card based on Your CPU and Chipset. We need to explain those Details in a Video Response so You'll understand how that works. And the 2nd part of Your Question, You'll only achieve the speed of Your Motherboard Chipset. That too We'll include in the Video Response how that works as well! Appreciate Your Patience!

Hi Ahmed Jamil, Welcome! Great Question! Unfortunately no. The Quad cards of this type require Bios Bifurcation. And the Mac does not support that feature. In fact not all PC Computer do either. Not enough PCIe Resources in most Desktop Motherboards. HEDT or Workstation Motherboards have those PCIe Lanes for this. Since You have a Highpoint Enclosure, You have NVMe but You want more NVMe. Only requirement is a Full X16 Slot, electrically not just mechanically. Highpoint has 4 Drive and 8 Drive Self Bifurcated cards. I'm confused. You have an NVMe RAID in the Highpoint 6661a NVMe Thunderbolt expansion chassis. But You want to ADD a Quad card to Your Mac? This should do what You want... This will work with a Mac. Highpoint SSD7101A-1 NVMe 4-Port M.2/U.2 Unbeatable Peformance/Comprehensive Selection; No-Bifurcation Required amzn.to/3XZEOMn As an Amazon Affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases! Hope that helps!

@@BuildOrBuy but no chance it will work on Mac? Thanks a lot for your reply really appreciate your detailed answer. Love how detailed your videos are.

Hi@@metalliskined, Revised my reply with a Highpoint card that should work with Your setup. Thank You for Your Comments! These Details matter! Did not realize at first which Highpoint product You have! I do now! To reiterate, a regular inexpensive Quad card will not work on a Mac due to Bios Bifurcation Requirements. Bifurcation is the Ability to Fork or Split. In this scenario PCIe Lanes. Remember each M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive requires 4 PCIe Lanes. A Self Bifurcated card has a PLX Chip doing the PCIe Lane Switching. Hence the price. Hope that helps with Your Video Production!

@@BuildOrBuy thank you so much it means alot

Hi@@metalliskined, Absolutely! Thanks for reaching out! Keep Us informed about Your Progress! Are You Processing 4k or 8K Video?

Hi Jim Brannan, That's a great point! I'm glad You've brought that up! That's why We use the TRX40. The x570 design looks great on paper. However the execution is lacking. Gigabyte does not have an x570 with 1 x16 PCIe Slot dedicated. ASUS has only 1 as best as I can remember. Most all x570 Motherboards have shared PCIe Resources. Which as allocated are not enough for dedicated PCIe Slots. No on a Quad card for x570 for the most part. Yes on a Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter on the x570 as long as You don't mind knowing the GPU will reside in a x8 Slot, electrically. Hope that clarification helps. Otherwise not much difference from B550 to x570 in execution. These are generalities of course. I'm always eager to check out any Motherboard when asked and verify PCIe Resource allocations! Fascinating design choices that always seem short sighted.

@@BuildOrBuy The reason I used the Ryzen 7 5700G in my Asus x570 was to free up the one x16 lane. I am hoping to get this card working in it. Not going the Gen 4 route with the M.2's. I will let you know.

Hi@@jimbrannan5825, You already know what You're up against! That should do the job! Remember to Bifurcate that Slot to x4x4x4x4! Success on Your Installation! Keep Us Posted on your Progress!

@@jimbrannan5825 In the past if you went from a cpu/gpu system to an APU that has graphics built in, the number of cpu lanes to your PCIe sockets dropped from 16 GEN4 lanes to 8 GEN4 lanes. That's a bummer.

@@jimbrannan5825 OK. I looked at the 5700G 3rd gen ryzen apu. 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen and 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics Processors 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (x16 mode). That's a copy paste from Newegg. 5000 series APU's give you 16 CPU lanes but dropped to GEN3. 16 GEN4 cpu lanes are only with 5000 series Ryzen cpus. Not good news.

And all pcie gens are maxed out in the bios

Hello Patrick Jones, Welcome! Which Motherboard and CPU are You using? We have to know the Design and compare to the Specific Motherboard Implementation. Every Motherboard has a different PCIe Resource allocation.

Hello@@charbel369, To reiterate, Motherboard and CPU?

@@BuildOrBuy hi, so the motherboard is the pro MSI z790p ddr4 WiFi motherboard and the CPU is the i5 13600k. Thanks

Hello@@charbel369, Looking over the Design and Implementation plus the M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Specifications, that's weird. You should be getter much better Results. Something is way off kilter. PCIe 3.0 = 3,500MBps PCIe 4.0 = 7,459MBps Suggest Diagnose, Test and Verify 1 Drive only on Motherboard. Check Motherboard Bios Firmware then M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive Firmware. Do You have any other M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drives to compare with? Did You Verify Bios Settings for PCIe 4.0? In Bios, Verify: PCIe/PCI Sub-system Settings M.2_1 - Max Link Speed And so on... Did You purchase this Motherboard new or used? Someone might have changed those Settings.

Hi Иван Брагин, Welcome! Great Question! Still to be done! We'll get to it! Glad You've asked!

Hello Gabriel3Gamu, Welcome! We'll take that as a compliment!

@@BuildOrBuy oh for sure I really enjoy your content and through explanation

Hello@@Gabriel3Gamu, Outstanding! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!

Hi Team Stevens, Welcome. We have several videos detailing use of Quad cards. Some focus on Bifurcation while others are more RAID centric. Thanks for Watching.

Hi syz, Welcome. Just now seeing Your comment. Thank You.

Hello evilqtip, Welcome. Just now seeing Your comment. Does your Motherboard support Bios Bifurcation? That's required to make this card function as designed.

Hi earlygame, Welcome. Just now seeing Your comment.