Asus ROG Ally Gets AMD Frame Generation... But Does It Work Well? 

For me, lossless scaling framegen starts working really well at +40fps base. LS framegen from 60fps base to 120fps feels absolutely magical!

Lossless Scaling works so much better at my Ally than FG. In Mafia DE and DS 3 its working wonders. Mafia runs at 30 fps and highest Details and Lossless does not generate artifacts, or are rarely noticable. FG disabling in motion kills it for me. Image Quality is really important for me and Lossless does it suprisingle well

would it work with an external gpu plugged in or do you need to use the inbuilt gpu?

I like how everyone chuckled at Rich saying "AFMF." It's almost like they're all thinking something similar... "Augmented Frames, Mother..." 😂

I'm struggling with this on FM it seems to crash my game but I did up the FPS to 60 so I may give it a go on 30fps. Looking forward to trying it on AW2 though

And for being a computer handheld you know it makes it where even with the imperfections it still runs smooth

Always wanted to give this a try but the fact that it completely disables itself arbitrarily is a deal breaker, I'd absolutely hate that, I'd prefer motion artifacts or other "bad looking" things than that jarring switch back and forth.

can't wait for a switch 2 showcase, a native nvidia handheld with native support for dlss and frame generation, the potential is great.

Honestly it works pretty well with a 720p Output aside games that hammer bandwidth even at 720 (Granblue Fantasy Relink.etc)

Heads up all. A huge Lossless Scaling update 2.8 dropped today! Make sure you are running the latest beta as the Stable version has issues. Introducing LSFG 2.0 - Enhanced architecture for processing large-scale movements, enabling efficient usage at lower frame rates. Hence, the minimum recommended base frame rates are 30/40 for 1080p/1440p resolutions respectively, with 60 FPS and higher recommended for an optimal experience. - Noticeable reduction of common artifacts such as motion ghosting, edge distortion, and image blurring. In cases where artifacts persist, it is advisable to increase the base frame rate. - GPU load has increased by 1.5 - 2x depending on the resolution. Therefore, a new 'Performance' mode has been added to preserve the performance of the previous version. It retains all the main advantages of the quality version and surpasses the LSFG 1.1, all at the same speed.

These tools are definitely game specific, but overall Ally users are using these tools fairly often, with good success. AFMF and Frame Generation are game specific even on a competent desktop gaming rig, so I was surprised to see so few games tested with Lossless Scaling.

recently, Lossless Scaling update new version of frame gen, which work great at based 30 FPS now

Was able to get on cod 230fps with the xg mobile and the rog ally on low graphics using amd 3.0 1080p

Ls amazing 1070. Still running. Rivertuner to lock FPS and Nvidia v sync on and boost on

AFMF is great with games with no camera movement from the player, like Diablo IV or Eiyuden Chronicles. Basically games with top-down view. Side scrolling games might be fine as long as the action isn't too heptic. But for FPS games or third person view games, it's not that good.

Does bugger all for alan wake 2 which I was guttered about

Works great with RPG's and more stationary games. Or games where you already get decent frames. Lets you bump up quality a bit too.

I would love to see you install and do an in-depth analysis of the Bazzite distro with the Steam Deck and ROG Ally.

I think it sucks. I mean you can pretty much only look at the game for it to work. If you move too fast or rotate the camera it stops working and the game will just jojo up and down in fps. Its terrible

I'm getting a pretty good experience with it decent increase overall in fps, I don't know why so many people are having issues

Please cover lossless scaling 2.8! BTW dlss3 did worse than lsfg on Forbidden west for me, the only issue with that is hdr becomes wonky. When running on sand in that game the dlss fg artifacts on that is so horrendous, lsfg didn't have that issue

after trying this function for a day I turn it off. I feel like the frame rate got worse not better with this function.

I consider AMD's frame gen to be unusable on the ROG ally due to the massive added input lag and the Ally's generally not super high starting framerate. A lot of people seem happy with it, though.

Remember, this video is getting feedback up and out to help improve the AMD technology... 2-5 years handheld will be a mainstream thing everyday, everywhere

I experimented both AMD and nVidia frame generation on Cyberpunk 2077, running on a low end gaming laptop (Core i5 13gen + RTX 4050) and the nvidia offered a much, much, much, much more smoother 60fps experience than AMD (using external tools, of course). And I also noticed this same behavior on several other games I tested. nVidia FG works much better than AMD FG in delivering a smoother gameplay experience while under 60fps. Only when the game runs, natively, above 60fps, the AMD FG starts to show somewhat good results.

Ark Ascended has terrible performance, but it looks really good sometimes. That game drops to 30 fps pretty often on a 4070 Super using epic settings at 1440p, but with frame gen it stays around 50-60 and both looks and feels much better to me. That game isn't probably a great example of anything, but it is Unreal 5 and it does seem much better to me.

Our visual cortex automatically smooths out games (running 30 fps) just like it smooths out movies that are chopped up into pieces. If I focus on how bad the movie is cut up I will find it annoying.

It definitely helps with FF7 Remake

framegen from AMD ist just a marketing gimmick, it doesn't help with slow input processing, that's the metric you feel when playing a game, not its FPS when it comes to fluidity.

frame gen is basically like streaming the game, you got increased latency, artifacts and blurry image. In current shape it is unusable but maybe in the future it will be awesome who knows

Hello. (sorry for bad english)

When they were saying why lossless looked bad, I didn't see it at all. I think the average guy isn't going to notice any of that artifacting or other issues. If youre a big tech guy yea probably you will.

That’s bs, how TF is a portable game system getting frame generation and the big consoles aren’t powerful enough lol?

I think we tend to forget that what us and Digital Foundry are doing is actually nitpicking. Yes we’re professional nitpickers 😂. The vast majority of games actually perform and look really well. As in the average person isn’t going to notice any of the problems they talk about. Just trained eyes(heavy gamers) and analysts such as DF. Theres VERY few games that are so broken that the average person would notice. The average person is the baseline for if a games performance is acceptable or not, not us techys lol

Lossless scaling artifacts are a non issue for me on such a small screen. I’m happy to be able to vsync @ 30 fps and frame gen up to 60 fps. To me that’s the real benefit of LS. Games that have it built in like Immortals of Aveum look awful because the fps is all over the place. I really think frame gen is going to improve and be widely used in the near future.

ROG isn't an Acronym. It stands for Republic of Gamers. A line of ASUS products directed at gamers. Incorrect: Rog Ally. Correct: R.O.G. Ally

I just bought Rog Ally and Lenovo Legion Go on April 27. 2 Amazing PC handheld. I am going to sell my 512gb lcd Steam Deck and get the 1tb oled model.

Steamdeck

Tldr mid

AMD fake frames..yuck..yuck..such a poo implementation. We need a Nividia hand-held portable PC with a much better frame generation and upscaling technology.. The Nintendo Switch 2 has the potential to do better

Its junk, stuttery mess

I don't know why but whenever df talking about amd stuf they just laugh for no reason . These people are really Nvidia shells 😂😂

Frame-Gen is just a sad excuse for not properly optimizing games. #SadFact

Amaf is not good on rog handheld 😂😂😂😂 as if any one playing on rog handheld

i cannot stand the weird judder that amd frame generation produces. it makes me physically ill.