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Find our discussion with ASUS: • Confronting ASUS Face-...
Has ASUS scammed you? A lot of warranty rejections actually legally qualify as fraud. You can report it here: reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Watch part 2: • ASUS Says We're "Confu...
This undercover warranty investigation is a one-year follow-up from our series that investigated ASUS for motherboards incinerating AMD CPUs, at the end of which ASUS promised a number of improvements to its then-anti-consumer warranty processes. Spoiler alert: They're still anti-consumer. We sent our ASUS ROG Ally Z1 Extreme in for warranty repair for issues with the left joystick ("drift"). The device also had a broken microSD card. ASUS then pointed to the world's tiniest scratch and tried to charge us $200 for it under threat of sending back a disassembled device if we didn't pay within 5 days. It felt like extortion. If you're wondering whether ASUS is worth buying, the answer for anyone who values support should be "no."
We have now tested ASUS' motherboard and ROG Ally warranty and RMA processes. Both have been anti-consumer experiences.
Watch the Scumbag ASUS video that started this series: • Scumbag ASUS: Overvolt...
Watch our legal correspondent and attorney comment on ASUS' warranty last year: • The ASUS Problem & Res...
Watch our series on the Newegg saga here: • Newegg Scammed Us
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Steve Loses It
01:57 - Evidence of Others
04:38 - Defective ROG Ally Details
06:22 - The Timeline (ASUS Warranty Investigation)
11:28 - Scumbags
19:26 - EVEN MORE SCAM CLAIMS
20:50 - Conclusion: Stop Buying ASUS if You Want Support
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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Find our discussion with ASUS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z0ZoCYXmF0Q.html Has ASUS or another company scammed you during a warranty claim? A lot of warranty rejections actually legally qualify as fraud. You can report it here: reportfraud.ftc.gov/ Viewers make these independent investigations possible. Buy a limited CyberSkeleton shirt! store.gamersnexus.net/products/limited-edition-foil-cyberskeleton2-cotton-tshirt (uses a brilliant blue and gold foil) Or consider grabbing one of our heavy-duty silicone soldering & project mats: store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-project-soldering-mat You can also find one of our PC building Modmats with reference wiring diagrams here: store.gamersnexus.net/products/large-modmat-gn15-anniversary Or for some drinkware, get a copper-plated stainless steel mule mug with a thermal conductivity formula laser-etched in it! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-copper-plated-stainless-steel-mule-mug-thermal-conductivity-of-copper Watch our Scumbag ASUS video that started this last year: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cbGfc-JBxlY.html Watch our EK investigation here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8A7cykj0pCg.html
@Rashimotosan
@Rashimotosan Месяц назад
Oh man lol Asus motherboard stories incoming. The amount of RMA stories I've seen on those (plus experienced) is insane. Goodbye to your inbox lol
@hyperturbotechnomike
@hyperturbotechnomike Месяц назад
Sapphire has scammed me in an RMA case, where they sent me a faulty, visibly used replacement. It was about an unstable RX 5700XT Pulse with heatstroke, 5 years ago. And once HP, where they scratched my 2170p, 10 years ago. Location: Europe.
@speedevil22
@speedevil22 Месяц назад
I had a brand new Alienware 13 R3 that my cat ripped off a keyboard cap when I had owned it for only two months. Upon arriving at Dell's repair center they proceeded to tell me the mainboard and the battery were damaged and needed to be replaced. And I said, "okay, they are still under warranty so that's fine". (was actually incredulous that they said damaged instead of defective, as the machine worked fine and had good battery life) When they realized that the machine was still within their limited warranty they said "actually, it looks like just the battery needs to be replaced" literally in the same phone call. Like what??? Good hardware otherwise though. Miss that laptop.
@marcosvictor4935
@marcosvictor4935 Месяц назад
Same happened to me a few years back with an Asus phone, I bought two identical phones from them and both developed issues with the touchscreen, contacting Asus about the issue they told me it was a "known factory defect of that model" then they told me to Wait because a software update would supposedly fix it. The update came, it helped like 5%, but it did not fix the issue. By that time one of the phones fell and the BACK Glass developed the tiniest crack on one of the corners, so small and so localized it wouldn't have reached the screen even if it was on the front! For that they only fixed the phone that didn't have a crack and claimed user induced damage. For a KNOWN FACTORY DEFECT! If the whole screen was shattered beyond recognition, after admitting fault they should still replace the the damn screen under warranty... I any case the phone wasn't unusable and I kept it but sweared never to buy anything Asus again, not a phone, not a mobo, not a monitor, Nothing.
@jocyt6356
@jocyt6356 Месяц назад
Wtf, are there any normal people working @ASUS and Partners?? Happened to me a few years ago. Had a simple connector problem on a ASUS tablet. They wanted to charge me about 400 USD, because they destroyed the display at the repair center and blamed me for this.
@magicalgirl1296
@magicalgirl1296 Месяц назад
Don't buy from ASUS, got it.
@jimlahey7318
@jimlahey7318 Месяц назад
Yup. Been lucky that nothing I've bought from Asus has been damaged or faulty, but it looks like I've been unknowingly gambling. Won't make that mistake again.
@GenusWelt
@GenusWelt Месяц назад
I was thinking about G14 but after this I'm going to search for something else.
@Hotlog69
@Hotlog69 Месяц назад
MSi and Gigabyte does some shady things too. Soon we can't buy anything!
@FcoEnriquePerez
@FcoEnriquePerez Месяц назад
This been a fucking thing since.. how many years? But people KEEPS F$%^NG BUYING FROM THESE FUC#$%S. Not their first fuck up and not their first time being assholes.
@MoolsDogTwoOfficial
@MoolsDogTwoOfficial Месяц назад
Me who has an ASUS motherboard: "Well shit."
@luigiangelourquico3745
@luigiangelourquico3745 Месяц назад
Congratulations, ASUS. You just lost thousands of customers who watched this video.
@2010ngojo
@2010ngojo Месяц назад
They'd be lucky just to lose "thousands". The potential new customers are also gone.
@Kamehaiku
@Kamehaiku Месяц назад
Millions
@chuckgrumble5440
@chuckgrumble5440 Месяц назад
yup my new builds are not asus anything, they used to be good and used all their parts with every build
@JenniferThornburg1
@JenniferThornburg1 Месяц назад
I was a big Asus computer buyer and moved to HP gaming systems.
@whiteroach3
@whiteroach3 Месяц назад
I'm still surprised people came crawling back to them after that motherboard fiasco last year.
@Baki-EGW
@Baki-EGW 21 день назад
Thank you GN, I will never buy ASUS again.
@Philip_Taylor
@Philip_Taylor 3 дня назад
Every time I turn on my ASUS laptop it says "In search of perfection" and I think: "Keep looking because this ain't it!!"
@kimberg3338
@kimberg3338 20 дней назад
I have been in a battle with Asus since August 2023 over my laptop. I too have had to send it in not once but twice for the same repair and the first repair did not even address the problem. Only after contacting everyone and posting on every blog I could get my hands on was I contacted by an Asus CEO repair person who is handling my case now. I am currently waiting for possible replacement offers this week.
@MrRocking145
@MrRocking145 14 дней назад
Ironically, that same situation happened to me with MSI. 99% the same. I only got results after I told them exactly what was wrong with it, returned it twice and dealt with a different person.
@heybri
@heybri 13 дней назад
a ceo repair person? is that an actual executive type position or is that just a title they give to one of their level 2 support ppl? It their company is like most, they outsource most of their support ppl to india/phillipines and when the customer is aggravated enough they finally relay them to someone not overseas who tends to resolve the issue easier than their overseas counterparts
@ocelotRev
@ocelotRev 10 дней назад
do not delete the post, ANY post, don't make the mistake that i made.
@AbhishekPandey05
@AbhishekPandey05 10 дней назад
I am dealing with the same problem from over an year for a Rog 6 phone. I paid 22k INR as per their initial quote for LCD and back panel and immediately after that they sent another quote that I need to pay for 50k INR for motherboard although my phone has no issues when I submitted the phone. (Alarm was working, phone calls I could hear, there was a damage only to the top left near camera which made me feel that lcd stopped or loose connection). I had no scratches on the front screen still I thought I had to pay so I paid 22k (Lcd + back panel).when they asked me to pay for 50k more for motherboard I was like dude the new phone cost is 47k INR
@glitter_fart
@glitter_fart 6 дней назад
asus regularly lets bad batches pass QC and sell at a discount instead of just doing the repair themselfs.
@Munchike
@Munchike Месяц назад
Boycott ASUS, got it.
@Hbcfrtyujjbbcxdtmnggyuoop
@Hbcfrtyujjbbcxdtmnggyuoop Месяц назад
400 likes on a comment that’s a minute old. Nice
@Hbcfrtyujjbbcxdtmnggyuoop
@Hbcfrtyujjbbcxdtmnggyuoop Месяц назад
Just got another 200 in the last 30 seconds
@Zydraxis
@Zydraxis Месяц назад
i wanted to buy some assuss products told my borther im an asus guy well not anymore.
@r8ndomtyp
@r8ndomtyp Месяц назад
Exactly. Everything they release nowadays is just overpriced garbage.
@kuma_score7536
@kuma_score7536 Месяц назад
Again
@HussPOE
@HussPOE Месяц назад
I feel like ASUS will soon be "Still learning"
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Ah, yes. The Sony playbook. A classic.
@matthewchandler7845
@matthewchandler7845 Месяц назад
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH..........HEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHE.........AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA SOLID!
@IHazMagics
@IHazMagics Месяц назад
I will never understand how companies that have been in the business for years, sometimes decades think that "still learning" is anywhere near a reasonable excuse.
@lt3880
@lt3880 Месяц назад
"You are so brave, we are listening and learning"
@michaelbuto305
@michaelbuto305 Месяц назад
@@IHazMagics A Traded Public C. There always loser who will defend bad practice. Good thing, people kinda wake up to it and not chasing loses.
@Skvalpenotta
@Skvalpenotta 26 дней назад
Years ago, my sister had a MacBook Pro with an OLED display (back when OLED just came out). This laptop was only about 6 months old, but one day there was a problem with it; it wouldn’t turn on, so she brought it to an Apple store to have it fixed, since it was still under warranty. They immediately claimed water damage before she had even turned it in, which she knew wasn’t the case, so she asked them to take a look anyway. They rolled their eyes and took it in, and a few weeks passed. One day they sent her an email letting her know that there was water damage, and offered to take it off her hands to use for parts (she would still have to pay for the service). She absolutely wouldn’t let them keep the laptop, so she went there to pick it up. Pissed at the whole situation, she remembered there was a small crack in the glass. She had paid for an extended warranty on the screen and glass, so she asked them to replace the screen. They asked why she wanted to fix the screen on a broken laptop, but because this was covered by a separate warranty they couldn't deny her. So again, they reluctantly took it in. This time it only took a few days and when she picked it up, the laptop suddenly worked again just fine.
@masterv2118
@masterv2118 24 дня назад
I've had more issue with MAC's than anything else in the last 4 years almost all have had an issue. The screens seem to be a root cause of issues.
@BestShootermanUbz
@BestShootermanUbz 12 дней назад
Me when I spread misinformation on the internet
@vanjamenadzer
@vanjamenadzer 6 дней назад
Wasn't apple exposed for having such sensitive moisture markers that would trigger even in humid room, thus allowing the company to charge you for repairs under policy "water damage"?
@battokizu
@battokizu 2 дня назад
OLED?
@jaju123456
@jaju123456 2 дня назад
Oled MacBook pros don't even exist. You are probably thinking of Mini LED screens
@rev_dude
@rev_dude 23 дня назад
This is absolutely a systemic problem with Asus and it's partners too. I had a 2020 zephyrus g14 when the screen backlight died after a 18 months. They insisted the only method covered under warranty was some third party shop. So I sent it in well packaged, and with the only problem being the built in screen blacklight not turning on, it could still work just fine through an external display. Fast forward several months with no communication qhatsoever from the shop, I contact them to see what the hold up was, and apparently the main board is dead and they can't get the part. I could either wait an indeterminate amount of time for them to get the part, or they could send the laptop back. I asked for it back, and sure enough, the previously mostly working laptop was 100%, completely dead. What kind of repair shop sends back a product in worse shape than they received it in?? I genuinely believe that I, having built PCs but never worked on a laptop, could have done a better job just swapping out the LCD myself.... Thankfully my credit card company offered an extended warranty that covered the repair, if I paid for someone to kill my laptop I'd be PISSED. So if Asus wants you to send your product to Lifetime Repair Services near Buffalo NY, I HIGHLY DO NOT RECOMMEND
@halecj1
@halecj1 Месяц назад
ASUS has now entered the "find out" stage.
@Grobar4ever92
@Grobar4ever92 Месяц назад
Underrated
@RollerCoasterLineProductions
@RollerCoasterLineProductions Месяц назад
ZING
@ottiwa6718
@ottiwa6718 Месяц назад
chad comment
@ped7g
@ped7g Месяц назад
Right after ASUS customers do... *smirk*
@Unknown-pc9yq
@Unknown-pc9yq Месяц назад
Change takes time when it's with a large corp. I know that's not what anyone here wants to hear but it's how large corps work.
@PaulFlart-MallBlart
@PaulFlart-MallBlart Месяц назад
Steve - I work for a system integrator and I can tell you almost every single ASUS item we send in, they claim it's damaged in some way and make attempts to force us into paying for repairs. I've stopped recommending ASUS to my clients.
@SilverKnightPCs
@SilverKnightPCs Месяц назад
Yup us too! We thought it was just us!
@Pythonzzz
@Pythonzzz Месяц назад
Sounds like they need a good class action lawsuit
@DCG909
@DCG909 Месяц назад
What brand would you advise? Recently got an 7900xtx aqua from asrock and my paranoia got me to check the screws on the backside. 2 of them were loose.
@aserta
@aserta Месяц назад
Everything they make now is also garbage. Laptops that used to last close to a decade in the past now barely make the year mark. Their entire brand is now... garbage. But these new issues have started rearing their head since 2019. At first i thought maybe it was a pandemic. Then i googled the CEO... Gee... i wonder why since 2019 asus went from aggravating to absolute trash?
@alb9229
@alb9229 Месяц назад
Yup have sent ASUS many client motherboards for RMA to only see them returning the same board without any fix despite those boards being well within warranty .
@aaronwayman531
@aaronwayman531 23 дня назад
I bought my son an open box Asus desktop from Best buy. It was a good deal and I'm a single income family. Plus my son only plays like three games. It stopped producing video or power to usbs after a month and a half. It was out of best buys return window. Ok fine I'll call the manufacturer no biggie. I called almost a dozen times and got no where. 4 of the calls the agents pretended they couldn't hear me even though I was on a landline and have never had a problem. They would hangup. The rest told me my serial number on the machine was invalid. I read them every sticker on the machine and none of them worked. They said they couldn't help me. I said I have a proof of purchase. The. Wanted me to pay 180 dollars to send the desktop in to validate it had a warranty. I got no where. Went back to Best buy and they have sent it in for me. It's currently still being repaired. Hopefully I don't get a bill for it. We will see but yeah it has been a nightmare.
@ragnoxis05
@ragnoxis05 20 дней назад
Be careful with the open box stuff. I bought a tv like that. Could be a steal, or you could be getting robbed. Something tells me the geeksquad looked at it and decided to try to sell it after someone brought it back.
@aaronwayman531
@aaronwayman531 20 дней назад
@@ragnoxis05 Yea I knew it was a gamble. It still had the box and actually there was a Christmas card in the box which lets me know they didn't remotely check it. We will see, but ya screw Asus.
@onlineuser1990
@onlineuser1990 20 дней назад
Please do update us on what will happen to the desktop, best of luck 🙏
@NarwahlGaming
@NarwahlGaming 18 дней назад
Was there money in the Christmas card, at least? 😂
@aaronwayman531
@aaronwayman531 14 дней назад
@@NarwahlGaming lol no but Mimi's gift got returned. I picked it back up today from Best buy. They replaced the board and processor under warranty.
@andrewvigil2040
@andrewvigil2040 27 дней назад
I RMA’d a board a couple months ago that was for an 8th gen Intel CPU. They sent back an 11th gen board as replacement stating it should be “similar enough.”
@lukes401k
@lukes401k 13 дней назад
Forcing a CPU upgrade is absolutely absurd
@realonepx9885
@realonepx9885 Час назад
thats actually crazy method
@itzvibe71
@itzvibe71 Месяц назад
Asus denied my warranty claim on an x570 motherboard because of a usb header bent pin, I paid $275 for the board, they then sent me a bill for $500 to repair. They are the worst, I will never buy a product from Asus ever again
@Lishtenbird
@Lishtenbird Месяц назад
My brand new motherboard (all seals in place, box in perfect condition) had a bunch of front panel connectors bent. Why? Because the antistatic bag it was in was pulling against the cardboard spacers of the box, and putting pressure on them. Great attention to packaging, isn't it?
@MrAlexmbat
@MrAlexmbat Месяц назад
Same exact thing, when there was a fundamental problem elsewhere on the board
@HunterC.-vq7yn
@HunterC.-vq7yn Месяц назад
My mobo cost my mom (chrismas present) $160 and they sent me a repair bill of 200+, the damages they claimed had ZERO to do with the reason i even shipped it in for
@RedVRCC
@RedVRCC Месяц назад
That's pretty shitty ngl, you could literally just buy a whole new motherboard at that point and a much better one at that. Like seriously just send a new one at that point.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Another insane story - thanks for posting. Can you send details and a brief timeline to tips at gamersnexus dot net? We'd like to include this in our research as we dig deeper. Thank you!
@Netist_
@Netist_ Месяц назад
Welp, ASUS is on the "do not buy" shitlist now.
@kuma_score7536
@kuma_score7536 Месяц назад
they're on it again, last time it was a BIOS that would fry X3D CPUs from AMD by pumping them with voltage then they'd refuse to honor warranty
@rando843
@rando843 Месяц назад
I've been avoiding as they're far too expensive compared to alternatives but now I'm gonna avoid them completely and make sure everyone I know does too fr
@kyberzyler
@kyberzyler Месяц назад
Was about to purchase two Asus laptops. Will go with alternative manufacturer now.
@viperpit-lr2rp
@viperpit-lr2rp Месяц назад
They should have been after the other issue.
@thegreatdodo5092
@thegreatdodo5092 Месяц назад
I am running out of brands to buy from.. EVGA gone, MSI shit, ASUS shit, Zotac shit. Who is not shit?
@samuraidoggy
@samuraidoggy 16 дней назад
I had this same happening to me. I had RB button stuck due mechanical spring failure that is common. I didnt try to repair it myself, since it was in warranty period so I took it to the warranty. They didnt ask 200 usd from me, but 550 usd to replace all the inetriors and the work. They claimed that "I had tried to repair it myself, and the machine had water damage due to me as well". I didnt of course pay it, but I STILL had to pay 60usd for inspection and shipping, since it was "my fault". That was all 100% bullshit. I had never had the machine near water, I had never opened it since it was in warranty. When I now opened it, there is 0 sign of water damage or anything else. But there is total signs, that they NEVER EVEN OPENED THE MACHINE TO EVEN TRY TO REPAIR IT!!!! It had dust in it, dirt in the button that I complained. If they even bothered to TRY to repair it, all that would be gone. I got microplastics when I took the screws out from the machine to open it up; this is a sign that the screws have NEVER been taken out after factory made. The whole situation is just INSANE. They took my Ally for 3 weeks for "warranty maintenance", they obviously never even fucking opened it up, and they said to me "pay 550usd for repairs or buy a new one, OORRRRR ask your home insurance to cover for the damage, its ur fault it has water damage!". Total fraud If I have ever seen in my 30+ years of using computers, and oh boy, I will NEVER buy anything froom Asus again, that is fucking sure. I recommend everyone never to use anything by made Asus, this was just totally mind blowing experience in all my computer years.
@Jusu
@Jusu 7 часов назад
imagine taking a car into warranty service and they return it in pieces because of a dent in the paint.
@oktusprime3637
@oktusprime3637 Месяц назад
Love when companies get caught with their pants down not knowing they’re working on GN’s stuff.
@GaahlDukat
@GaahlDukat Месяц назад
Guess who's gonna be having a meeting with the CEO of Asus pretty soon?
@iceicebabyil
@iceicebabyil Месяц назад
Same I love this shit
@robertkaul1010
@robertkaul1010 Месяц назад
Makes me buy merch every time.
@tomferguson9250
@tomferguson9250 Месяц назад
It's why I love GN so much, they won't hesitate to call out scams or bad practices. They've ended lucrative sponsor relationships for less than what Asus is pulling now.
@notsam498
@notsam498 Месяц назад
This is top quality tech journalism IMO. Love that they expose problems like this.
@megadeth-1a885
@megadeth-1a885 Месяц назад
its the old auto mechanic scam. Go in for oil change and now all of a sudden my engine needs a rebuild.
@justaskin8523
@justaskin8523 Месяц назад
No, they start with "You need a new Frammitz valve." Or, "We see this all the time. It's a Disgronifier. That will take 20 hours of labor and will cost $3,000 because the Disgronifier is not covered; it's a wear part and not part of the drive train." They tell an unsuspecting customer all of that with a very "serious" look on their face and wrinkles in their foreheads, showing their concern.
@Nalianna
@Nalianna Месяц назад
@@justaskin8523 And, if you don't pay within 3 days, we'll return your car in 57 pieces.
@feelincrispy7053
@feelincrispy7053 Месяц назад
As a car mechanic myself it’s my job to report anything that doesn’t function as it did when new. The problem lay when certain dodgey mechanics don’t outline just how broken the part is and how necessary or soon it should be replaced. I always always report the severity and how it may effect safety or fuel efficiency. If your mechanic doesn’t report those factors and says to you a part MUST be replaced no questions asked, go somewhere else.
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 Месяц назад
​@@justaskin8523 Don't forget the obligatory blinker fluid.
@ExaltedwithFail
@ExaltedwithFail Месяц назад
@@jintsuubest9331 Also tyres need premium air due to age
@BakaRed77
@BakaRed77 27 дней назад
I had a similar experience with LG. Sent my phone in for a second warranty claim because they broke my camera while fixing the vibrate motor. I had dropped the phone and cracked the tempered glass screen protector before sending it back. They told me they wouldn't fix my camera unless I agreed to have my cracked screen replaced for over $200. I replied that the screen protector was cracked and the screen under it was fine. They let me know they removed my screen p[protector and the screen was cracked. I called them out and told them to just send the phone back to me. I got it back and there was a bright orange arrow sticker pointing at a hairline scratch on the phone that literally filled in with adhesive when a screen protector was placed over it and was complete invisible at that point. It was not a crack! I replaced the camera myself.
@olavinto
@olavinto 6 дней назад
One thing I've noticed with the few messages, support materials, etc. I've read from ASUS over the years for various reasons is that there are very often grammar problems and they are clearly written by someone who is not a native English speaker (which I, as a Finn, am not either). This also applies to many other companies, especially Asian companies. Most companies in most industries oversimplify things for speed (i.e. money), in that they tend to only do the absolute minimum and that relevant information is often completely ignored. Problem descriptions are simplified at different levels of handling which leads to relevant information or wordings to change and so on... As a former after sales employee I saw quite a few of this crap. And yes, most companies kind of leaned towards trying to avoid the responsibility. Luckily, here in Finland (and EU in general) we have pretty good laws and channels that protect the rights of consumers and these probably put a bit more pressure on companies (interestingly enough similar resources are not nearly as good towards businesses). Money, money, money. It's all about those greedy hands and bottomless pockets of those inverstors... It's sad that quality work that you can be proud of is kind of rare in many industries. Stuff like lower level customer service tasks you should basically be a wall that turns customers away and/or saves/makes your company as much money as possible are common, instead of tasks where you are providing a service for a customer that would actually be rewarding to you too.
@toufusoup
@toufusoup Месяц назад
ASUS PLEASE IT HASN’T EVEN BEEN A YEAR
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
We told them we'd check back in on them once they had time to fix things. A year seemed like enough time!
@Brockzillagaming
@Brockzillagaming Месяц назад
​@@GamersNexus a year is MORE than enough time to redo systems. This is so much of an issue higher up the chain, and it's so sad to see Asus fall from what their reputation used to be. They were my go-to for years.
@breakupgoogle4584
@breakupgoogle4584 Месяц назад
@@GamersNexus That's way too much time in my book. They should have had it done in UNDER 6 months.
@RustyWells2
@RustyWells2 Месяц назад
​@@BrockzillagamingWhat's your company's name?
@Brockzillagaming
@Brockzillagaming Месяц назад
@@RustyWells2 my company?
@FandangoJon
@FandangoJon Месяц назад
They totally wanted to replace the screen because the whole thing was basically a loss except for the screen. They wanted to charge 200 bucks so they could just pull a refurbished off the shelf instead of having to take the time and labor to repair it.
@marktackman2886
@marktackman2886 Месяц назад
spot on, I said same thing lol, I'm suprised steve didnt say it outright
@FragEightyfive
@FragEightyfive Месяц назад
Thinking the same thing. I don't know why they just didn't do that and then keep the old unit to recert the good parts, but maybe the fact the case had some slight damage so the screen couldn't be sent out again because it obviously looked 'used'.
@marktackman2886
@marktackman2886 Месяц назад
@@FragEightyfive that sounds very plausible and why it was focused on.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Agreed. That was how we felt as well - seemed like a way to make some money on a refurb and kick the unit down for parts. What's insane is the charging for shipping - that'd still be free as part of the original covered claim! And by insane, I mean possibly fraudulent.
@TheChrcol
@TheChrcol Месяц назад
good point, that also would have covered them sending a different unit back entirely.
@RenegadeTM
@RenegadeTM 25 дней назад
This sort of reminds me when Geek Squad (Best Buy's repair team) Were charging for repairs for laptops right out of the box. A Local WA state TV team set up a sting, with a few laptops bought the same day, and they did not even go through the OS set up. They were literally out of the box, and they came up with all kinds of claims to charge for non-existent repairs.
@ChristopherDooks
@ChristopherDooks 11 дней назад
Thanks for covering this, a lot of companies are behaving in this way which is really sad.
@_M.Silva_
@_M.Silva_ Месяц назад
"Oh no my toilet is clogged" "Unfortunately, the paint on your walls has faded and needs a repaint. Pay us now, or we'll blow your house to bits."
@Laundry_Hamper
@Laundry_Hamper Месяц назад
"The paint on your walls has faded...and your roof is attached to your walls. You need to pay for a new roof or we'll have a guy come around and take your existing roof apart. Three days and counting, buddy"
@MoreLikeCappuccino
@MoreLikeCappuccino Месяц назад
"NO GUARANTEE TOILET WILL BE UNCLOGGED. FEE IS NON REFUNDABLE"
@premium3429
@premium3429 Месяц назад
HAHAHA THE MICROSCOPE DRAMA. LOVED IT! LMFAO😂😂❤
@LowLight420
@LowLight420 Месяц назад
"Oh no my toilet is clogged, with my Asus"
@siah7590
@siah7590 Месяц назад
Potentially hundreds of thousands, big yikes.
@metalema6
@metalema6 Месяц назад
"doctor, my son's fingernail is broken" ... "sorry maam, his teeth were misalligned, if you don't pay for the operation we'll ship your son back without teeth"
@Souma_Ditya
@Souma_Ditya Месяц назад
Great analogy
@johnnymosam7331
@johnnymosam7331 Месяц назад
LMFAO
@faizrahman6308
@faizrahman6308 Месяц назад
Oh, that's generous. I actually expect "if you don't pay for the operation, we'll ship your son back without any legs"
@ViciousVinnyD
@ViciousVinnyD Месяц назад
I love how you say "ship", as if they pack him into a box and send him back in a shipping container
@brisingreye5209
@brisingreye5209 Месяц назад
well that is still a win... after all teeth removal is expensive XD
@Bumzen
@Bumzen 26 дней назад
I'm happy I had no issues when they took in my Ally with the exact same issue.
@makiss29
@makiss29 9 дней назад
I worked on retail for 4 years selling tech products. Our most defective laptops that we had on display were the Asus TUF series
@WhiteSteelGamer
@WhiteSteelGamer Месяц назад
German retail worker here. I work in a major electronics store here (similar to Best buy) and I also worked customer service for about half a year, almost every time we sent in an Asus device for repair, Asus either didn't repair it or claimed the device was damaged by the customer (which it wasn't) and in most Asus cases we just ended up paying the customer a full refund in our expense and getting the device fixed within our company. So yeah I can confirm it's just like that for Germany too...
@Aotearas
@Aotearas Месяц назад
This is interesting. Someone ought to sic the Verbraucherschutz their way because that sort of stuff ASUS appears to be pulling should be highly illegal around our parts.
@mariobosnjak99
@mariobosnjak99 Месяц назад
You should report it because Germany has a LOT higher standards than USA on these sort of things. I guarantee you they are breaking at least a dozen laws doing this shit
@vanCaldenborgh
@vanCaldenborgh Месяц назад
@@mariobosnjak99 Yes, and consumer rights seem to be enforced in Germany, unlike the Netherlands where EU regulations no matter what often are just paper tigers.
@looseycanon
@looseycanon Месяц назад
Well, at least you folks take care of your clients. I worked as accountant in one retailer, fortunately, we didn't sell Asus, but I have seen problems with RMAs to the point, we actually billed one RMA to supplier, because they didn't want to admit clear manufacturing defect.
@NormanTheDormantDoormat
@NormanTheDormantDoormat Месяц назад
​@@vanCaldenborghIDK if it's the same in the Netherlands, but for private customers (aka "Verbraucher" / "consumer") the mandatory 2 year warranty is to be directed at the SELLER in all cases, and NOT the manufacturer. This has "always" been the case afair. This means the SHOP/SELLER has to compensate the "Verbraucher" (unless you bought directly from ASUS) and potentially take a loss. And any problems between the shop and asus are now not covered by customer protection, but by whatever contracts there are between asus and the shop, and whatever business laws regulate such disputes (if any).
@dylf14
@dylf14 Месяц назад
I've worked in repairs. Whenever a customer sent us a device (phones/tablets), we would triage and send the customer the estimate. If they reject it, we would still clean it, return it to the condition it was sent and ship it back to the customer. It always went back better than it came in. And sending back the device disassembled wasn't even an option. Not sure who ASUS is contracting out for these repairs, but their policies are not acceptable by industry standards.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
That's a great way to do it. Louis said something similar.
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi Месяц назад
Same way I used to run my repair shop. Everything went back with clean fans, keyboards, and screens at the very least.
@aserta
@aserta Месяц назад
Given their English proficiency... i think it's pretty obvious.
@yensteel
@yensteel Месяц назад
​@@GamersNexusLouis Rossmann is the GOAT for repair ethics and standards.
@charlie81dbz
@charlie81dbz Месяц назад
@@GamersNexus It's almost like independent repairmen/small businesses have reputations to maintain or something. Love seeing big corporations being held accountable like this.
@DaemosDaen
@DaemosDaen 19 дней назад
Love that Patrick signed it as 'Pat Sting'
@DawnMayCry
@DawnMayCry 21 день назад
"Sorry some customer induced damage. " :D
@arghpee
@arghpee Месяц назад
Valve wins again. I have a dead pixel on my steam deck and they made sure to repair my deck with a perfect screen, new audio board, and new backplate, FREE of charge with the warranty. ASUS defenders malding
@crimesguy
@crimesguy Месяц назад
Valve wins again by doing nothing (besides honoring their commitment to customers under warranty), while a competing company plays mental gymnastics to do something dodgy yet again and loses.
@arghpee
@arghpee Месяц назад
@@crimesguy They didn't even need to honor an RMA for a couple dead pixels, most companies will deny it as being normal but they did and I'm very happy with my Deck OLED. Valve treats its customers right.
@snowthearcticfox1
@snowthearcticfox1 Месяц назад
Hell I cracked the screen on mine and the fact I had the option to repair it myself with a new, official part was awesome.
@daviddesrosiers1946
@daviddesrosiers1946 Месяц назад
@@crimesguy Yup. Amazing what happens when you treat your customers like customers, not marks to be fleeced.
@manitoba-op4jx
@manitoba-op4jx Месяц назад
they won't sell me a new audio board for my 1st gen deck so i'm salty
@nemoralis4713
@nemoralis4713 Месяц назад
Asus is now permanently off my brand purchase list, thanks for the in-depth investigation GN 👍
@eriksrensen6369
@eriksrensen6369 Месяц назад
You just buy Gigabyte or MSi.....who gives a fuck
@derain95
@derain95 Месяц назад
I need more EVGA in my builds...
@rallyscoot
@rallyscoot Месяц назад
@@eriksrensen6369 both arent great either.
@frantavopicka5259
@frantavopicka5259 Месяц назад
@@eriksrensen6369 MSI is also off the list for obvious reasons... search for GN videos about MSI. So only Gigabyte and AsRock are left, and Gigabyte generally produces shit (had 3 GB gpus ALL of them died within warranty).
@randomgamingin144p
@randomgamingin144p 29 дней назад
too bad i just bought an asus router LOL its going good so far tho
@CHADnFREUD
@CHADnFREUD 6 дней назад
The last few weeks, I've watched a dozen or so of your guys' videos for part ideas; but this, THIS video is why I am subscribing.
@Aircool212
@Aircool212 11 дней назад
I think ASUS is also in charge of 'The Department of Work and Pensions' here in the UK.
@sturdybutter
@sturdybutter Месяц назад
The fact that the claim dispute only allowed you 100 characters is insane and to me says they absolutely know what they’re doing and this is indeed malicious
@Disnamesucksass
@Disnamesucksass Месяц назад
Logitech did the same with me wih one of their forms. I couldnt explain my problem let alone a fair solution to solve it. Speaking of. A small sensor inside my shifter that it uses to work out which gear is selected broke its tiny flimsy plastic tab. They are usually worth a few cents each so I just wanted to pay logitech for a new one since i couldnt find the exact part elsewhere to buy. Seemingly they dont allow their supplier to sell them elsewhere. I was more than happy to pay 20aud for a bloke in their factory to take one out of a tub, slap it in a padded envelope and mail to me. Seems fair for a 2cent part. They repeatedly insisted i use the link to their online store to buy a whole new shifter for 80aud. I spent 300aud on a fanatech with hall sensors and binned the logitech as they refused to allow me access to replacement parts no matter the cost. It had no warenty as i bought 2nd hand and didnt have receipt.
@TerpsiKo
@TerpsiKo Месяц назад
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah that's inSANE. 100% malicious and deliberate.
@muizzsiddique
@muizzsiddique Месяц назад
Something like this requires typing your complaint in a pastebin or an image and linking it in your dispute.
@KARLOSPCgame
@KARLOSPCgame Месяц назад
​@@muizzsiddique"Sorry, can't open foreign pages"
@contentsdiffer5958
@contentsdiffer5958 Месяц назад
It seems to be very common. I ran into the same thing with Siemens.
@KitGuruTech
@KitGuruTech Месяц назад
Why are we not surprised. ASUS don’t seem to care about their customers.
@joeuma6403
@joeuma6403 Месяц назад
You should survey your British viewers about Overclockers UK RMAs!
@The.Doctor.Venkman
@The.Doctor.Venkman Месяц назад
​@@joeuma6403 - Agreed, but not just them. I bought from Scan UK - I posted this earlier.... I sent in a 2.5 year old ASUS SCAR A17 to ASUS UK Repair Centre (RTX 3080 16GB, Ryzen 9 5900HS, 32GB LPDDR4, 2TB RAID 0 M.2s, 2K Screen) - Original cost £2,799 - The laptop kept freezing in Windows. Their repair centre said the motherboard needed replacing and that was going to cost me £2,725 plus Labour, Admin, Shipping and VAT @ a further £564! Total: £3387 (Unbelievable!). In the UK we are covered when purchasing anything using credit. I'd bought the laptop with my credit card and was able to make a 'Section 75 Claim' that resulted in receiving a credit back to my card of £2,790. This money was subsequently charged back to the retailer who then had to sort it out with ASUS.
@hobbygaertner420
@hobbygaertner420 Месяц назад
I bought a Zenbook OLED from them that was advertised as having USB4. When I got it their BIOS disabled USB4 thought the hardware was still there. It was documented and many other users had that issue in their forums. They played dumb and did not adress the issue. I said then and there I will never buy ASUS again and that is what I did. PS: Fortunately it was possible to enable USB4 later partially by a hack. There's a Windows tool that can enable UEFI settings that are not in the UEFI menu. Unfortunately I don't remember the name, but it had something to do with Ryzen. This proved that ASUS willingly disabled USB4 on that Notebook, probably to get you to buy the more expensive ones.
@ricarmig
@ricarmig Месяц назад
I am in Europe and previously had a ROG Desktop that went 3 times to repair and on the first two, they “discovered” a couple of non related issues but DIDN’T fix the issue in the warranty; only on the third time with a video showing it (email to the manager) and multiple printed photos, they did fix the main issue (RAM modules); my present laptop, when new went also THREE times to repair, on the first two they just did a system reset. On the third one I did what I did with the desktop and they replaced the main board. I was in total 4 months without the laptop. Good I still had the old one… So I see Asus still (DOESN’T) care about consumers. I must say Microsoft is extremely good on that (at least on my experience).
@The.Doctor.Venkman
@The.Doctor.Venkman Месяц назад
This cesspit of a platform keeps deleting my comments? I posted this earlier, but it got deleted: I sent in a 2.5 year old ASUS SCAR A17 to ASUS UK Repair Centre (RTX 3080 16GB, Ryzen 9 5900HS, 32GB LPDDR4, 2TB RAID 0 M.2s, 2K Screen) - Original cost £2,799 - The laptop kept freezing in Windows. Their repair centre said the motherboard needed replacing and that was going to cost me £2,725 plus Labour, Admin, Shipping and VAT @ a further £564! Total: £3387 (Unbelievable!). In the UK we are covered when purchasing anything using credit. I'd bought the laptop with my credit card and was able to make a 'Section 75 Claim' that resulted in receiving a credit back to my card of £2,790. This money was subsequently charged back to the retailer who then had to sort it out with ASUS.
@DynamaxDragonite
@DynamaxDragonite 17 часов назад
18:37 "We have reach out to our repair Team...". Is that correct verb conjugation? 😐 'Pat' saying 'wtf how much to repair the joystick?' had me rolling. 😂
@28nicepiece
@28nicepiece 5 дней назад
This video made me subscribed; I've been incorporating ASUS with my build. I was really happy that back in the day, I had a MOBO problem with my ROG 5 and it won't turn on. I was glad asus honored my warranty and replaced the board for free, but that was 3 years ago. Maybe something changed in their management? with this sad news I'm a bit worried because I just bought a 4070 prior to seeing this video. Hopefully I won't be experiencing any problems. I am an ASUS fan because they have aesthetically good-looking products, but with these. I will hold on to my money and spend it to something else instead. I'm planning to buy a ROG ally in the future, but I'll just go with lenovo legion go instead. Won't spend a dime for them until these sorts out, if ever. Thank you for this video. You earned a subscriber.
@vomaufgang
@vomaufgang Месяц назад
*THIS* is what tech journalism should do. Journalism. Not "review the latest product for clicks with click bait titles and completely ignore what happens to customers after buying the product".
@StrikeWarlock
@StrikeWarlock Месяц назад
Problem is, the majority doesn't want that, as evidenced by why a channel like LTT still has way more following than what GN has. Also considering the latter's partnership with ASUS, watch Linus downplay this whole thing like what happened last year with the exploding ROG mobos.
@kingplunger6033
@kingplunger6033 Месяц назад
​@StrikeWarlock yeah, I can't wrap my head around ltt being so popular.
@Bob_Smith19
@Bob_Smith19 Месяц назад
ETA Prine has entered the chat 😂
@foxborosonicresearchinitia1047
@foxborosonicresearchinitia1047 Месяц назад
this is tech journalism, not tech reviews
@ecoista1373
@ecoista1373 Месяц назад
@@kingplunger6033 Relatable
@brotherfranciz
@brotherfranciz Месяц назад
Asus gaslighting their customers: Asus: "Remove drive as we will delete everything and the device may not work any more." Customer: *Removes drive Asus: "You have voided your warranty. You will need to pay for repairs."
@strangersound
@strangersound Месяц назад
That's a serious dark pattern. o_O
@dragutoiumihail-petre5429
@dragutoiumihail-petre5429 Месяц назад
same shit as Samsung. if you send your phone in service, they will most likely erase your data. also you are not owning the phone, and you had to send the charger as well, back in the days where they were still offering chargers with purchased phones. Today we harvest what we paid for starting back in 2000. there are no regulations whatsoever.... maybe more so in Europe
@eatu4tea
@eatu4tea Месяц назад
Customer: *Removes drive Asus: "You will never financially recover from this"
@michael1
@michael1 Месяц назад
To be fair they tell you to back up the data.
@M_CFV
@M_CFV Месяц назад
@@michael1 thats not what the comment is about, nobody cares about the data here. Its about tricking someone to charge them money for help
@tjwsnt2007
@tjwsnt2007 26 дней назад
i've sent a couple hybrid cooled strix cards back for memory failure. 4090 oc lc and 6900 oc lc and they repaired both. entire process was 7 days and it was back at my doorstep
@funkyhomosapien1
@funkyhomosapien1 10 дней назад
I was going to get a Scar 18 today. You guys have shown me the light. Thanks 👍🏼
@D.K81
@D.K81 Месяц назад
Asus pulling a Sony with "We're still learning", which translates to "We're still learning how to screw the customers over, without being caught".
@aserta
@aserta Месяц назад
New CEO, new methods to steal money they don't deserve.
@GHOSTSTARSCREAM
@GHOSTSTARSCREAM Месяц назад
Nah, Asus is on Samsung level of "screw u warrenties/repairs" stuff
@forzanerazzurri2339
@forzanerazzurri2339 Месяц назад
Nah man Sony is a good company
@honeybadger6275
@honeybadger6275 Месяц назад
@@forzanerazzurri2339 lol
@exon576
@exon576 Месяц назад
Yeah because MS is better withbuying, ruining and closing game studios?
@Nothingnesslol
@Nothingnesslol Месяц назад
They asked me to pay 900$ to repair a 350$ gpu 3 years ago. Damn I miss EVGA 😢
@alecjahn
@alecjahn Месяц назад
Very Apple of them, how nice!
@trimmin420
@trimmin420 Месяц назад
MSI
@ashenwattegedera
@ashenwattegedera Месяц назад
How do they even come up with that quote?🤣🤣🤣
@dracolusus
@dracolusus Месяц назад
Surely this exposé opens them up to a class action lawsuit? (Not American, not sure on the legalities of it all, just assuming from the evidence here)
@fcukgogle9213
@fcukgogle9213 Месяц назад
Why don't they make Radeon cards? I'll buy that.
@danielhowell9426
@danielhowell9426 23 дня назад
Had similar issues trying to get a video card fixed. Asus claimed only one year of warranty even though receipt and every other source said 3 years.
@UCMan99
@UCMan99 10 дней назад
To think I was planning on getting a rog ally.. thanks for the great coverage GN
@robinupham1975
@robinupham1975 Месяц назад
"Policy to mislead the customer to pay for a service they don't need". Sounds like ASUS is taking notes directly from car dealerships.
@arthurmoore9488
@arthurmoore9488 Месяц назад
Fun fact, companies in the PC space doesn't want to see what happens when lawyers learn about it. They want to act like car companies, well they better hope they have legal departments and cash reserves like car companies. I've learned from Lheto's Law those warranty acts have fee shifting provision. Meaning lawyers will take warranty cases on commission, without the customer paying a dime. There's literally a business case study about Nike getting sued as a means to put the rest of the industry on notice. Louis Rossman has probably been waiting for the opportunity to do the same to the PC industry. Apple is crafty enough and has enough money that they're not going to be the sacrifice. ASUS just volunteered!
@BOFH_
@BOFH_ Месяц назад
@@arthurmoore9488 Can you give me a set of search terms or a date range to look for regarding that Nike lawsuit? I've been trying to find information on it, but all I find are articles about Nike's trademark lawsuit spree.
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn Месяц назад
@@arthurmoore9488 Asus Everdeen
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 Месяц назад
nah, taking a page directly from Crapple. only difference is Crapple sheeple have their heads so far up Job's ass, they refuse to admit it
@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup Месяц назад
11:55 There is nothing too small for them to use and notice as an excuse to not cover you under warranty. There is nothing too big for them to miss when it would save you money via component level repair. What a dumpster fire of a company
@VashStarwind
@VashStarwind Месяц назад
The man himself
@sinisterisrandom8537
@sinisterisrandom8537 Месяц назад
Amen
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Greatly looking forward to working with you and those you referred to us for future content, both about ASUS and others. I think we can do a whole series on these practices and hopefully filter the good from the bad (and maybe even get some policy or at least customer awareness of rights).
@marin8231
@marin8231 Месяц назад
​​@@GamersNexusI'm curious to find out if Asus is outsourcing their warranty support to some shady third party to save money (and maybe use them as a scapegoat.) LG did this exact thing a while ago for their phones and needless to say their warranty support went to complete shit. There are multiple reports out on reddit and other sites of people getting rejected/scammed out of their repair from things like tiny scratches which were completely unrelated to the main issue (exact same way as in your video) I got scammed out of my LG G6 fingerprint scanner repair the same exact way as you (completely unrelated small scratch on metal frame/border of phone) yet this was an official/common issue with those phones! They completely shutdown their phone division shortly after due to losses, so it makes me wonder if it's indicative of the same thing with Asus.
@heybri
@heybri 13 дней назад
I'm wondering if the scam is just to rush ppl into paying and if someone disputes the "diagnosis" than they let them speak to lvl2 support who actually attempts to help them properly.. OR, they figured out that "Pat Sting" was an alias? Did you guys ship the item from your offices' actual location? I'm sure your address is on a list at every major PC Hardware company nowadays due to the AMAZING work you all do in catching these scam artists in the act so many times.. Your doing gods work for all of us GN.. love you all
@shhhh48
@shhhh48 2 дня назад
Had the same experience with a really expensive mobo ROG, it was excruciating to get replaced the mobo due random freezes from the bios
@civil_leuthie
@civil_leuthie Месяц назад
A friend started working at a warranty repair center. They cover several companies' products. The first step is to examine the product and determine a way to deny the warranty. They have incentives to find as many as possible to deny and are rewarded when the denials stick. So there's that.
@user-co8lv1lb1t
@user-co8lv1lb1t Месяц назад
sounds alot like how all insurance companies are
@afc9447
@afc9447 Месяц назад
Imagine an average teen has to go through this. Pretty much an unavoidable 200$ scam
@zangetsu56
@zangetsu56 Месяц назад
Insurances are a fucking racket the concept of pay me just so youre covered if something happens is ridiculous to add insult to injury about it then it becomes a haggling event to get them to comply with a service youre paying for!
@blaqlabspodcast5816
@blaqlabspodcast5816 Месяц назад
​@@user-co8lv1lb1t these repair service centers are insurance companies. Asurion etc. Listed as warranty insurance corporations.
@sleaxxx
@sleaxxx Месяц назад
Yeah, but this is how it should work. If everyone who dropped their shiny new device in a toilet, and sent it in for a warranty return got their device fixed, how much do you think your shiny new device is going to cost you next year?
@lymphy12
@lymphy12 Месяц назад
"Thank you for choosing Asus!" in emails is like a slap in a face RIP ASUS
@Hunne2303
@Hunne2303 Месяц назад
kinda reminds me of System Shock 2 and the vending machines on that coffin-turned FTL-spaceship...horribly expensive and "thank you for choosing value-wrap!"
@StrikeWarlock
@StrikeWarlock Месяц назад
For those Who Dare (to buy ASUS)
@raggnar77
@raggnar77 25 дней назад
I had an Asus GeForce 970 that stopped working after 3-4 weeks. Fortunately the reseller store tested the card, with their own equipment, and confirmed it wasnt working anymore and I was given a new one. This was done in a few days.
@complicated-antihero
@complicated-antihero 23 дня назад
Thank you for doing real journalism. Been so long I forgot what it looks like.
@steve_redman
@steve_redman Месяц назад
I bought a almost $3000 laptop for work and it died 6 months of owning it. Sent it in they said since the top of the case had a few surface scratches on it they deemed it physically damaged and sent it back disassembled and quoted me $2700 for the repair and $75 for a diagnostic fee and another $50 for shipping. Talk about a shady company. Took it back to Costco for a full refund
@ccramit
@ccramit 27 дней назад
So they lost money and got a broken laptop back haha. I love it.
@steve_redman
@steve_redman 27 дней назад
@@ccramit that's Costco's policy you get a two year warranty as part of your membership. If it's not physical damage and the item breaks you can return it
@LostCauseClown
@LostCauseClown 27 дней назад
Well, you got the laptop from Costco, so just use one of the other 9 laptops you got in the bulk.
@NotXboxiie
@NotXboxiie 26 дней назад
you just don't buy laptops... hate to break to you... the batteries never lasts more than a year.
@kevinmitchell766
@kevinmitchell766 26 дней назад
​@@NotXboxiieIt's very easy to replace a laptop battery. Also, you're doing something wrong if it only lasts you a year.
@miscbits6399
@miscbits6399 Месяц назад
25 years ago, ASUS entirely shut down customer forums rather than deal with rapidly increasing levels of customer complaints about issues with their TNT2 video cards (coupled with being called out about gaslighting customers) Good to see the attitudes haven't changed
@Raider_Of_The_Storm
@Raider_Of_The_Storm Месяц назад
Good to know that there are other people who have this thing called memory.
@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruth
@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruth Месяц назад
1999?
@dharshdanube6911
@dharshdanube6911 Месяц назад
@@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruthYeah
@CallMePaine
@CallMePaine 28 дней назад
Wow! If I could please ask, could you elaborate a bit more on this? TNT2 and other instances dating back 25 years! It feels outrageous to even hear that they shut down forums due to too many complaints.
@miscbits6399
@miscbits6399 28 дней назад
@@CallMePaine It was pretty simple. As more and more people reported the same problems (stuttering, various other issues) and criticised Asus for not responding (their TNT2 cards were priced and marketed as a premium product above most of the compteition), the video card forum was simply removed and as complaints then spread to other forums, they were removed entirely, replaced with Asus announcements _only_ IIRC it was eventually worked out that they'd packed so much stuff onto the boards that the AGP slot couldn't feed enough power to keep the regulators happy, leading to homebrew mods to add direct feed from the PSU (although most people just dumped and moved to geforce) As for "outrageous", this was standard practice in the 1990s for Taiwanese companies. As soon as bad news or public criticism happened they'd simply go into turtle mode. It's pretty much standard practice for Shenzhen companies today too This isn't a unique thing. Japanese & Korean companies _were and are_ even worse to deal with and it's not uncommon for them to start firewalling emails from media or "annoying" users (ie, those asking difficult questions) Also about the same time (20 years ago), gpl-violations started taking legal action against Taiwanese companies and ran into similar issues - Harold prevailed in court every single time despite this and forced hands by using those court decisions to block EU imports of offending items. Unfortunately corporate memories are "short" to put it politely and obstructionism is still common
@LifeOnHoth
@LifeOnHoth 9 дней назад
In my country: You send the device back to the store. They might tell you you have to send it directly to people like Asus, but that's just them trying to get around the relevant laws. No dealing with manufacturers, the store is your contact point by law. I've had both happen. I bought a camera some years back. A mirrorless cam. The shutter locks up. Clearly a warranty thing. I was actually uncertain about which store I bought it from at first - it could be one of two, and I went to the first one. And they was like - you need to send it to canon, here's a phone number. Call them and they'll send you the correct forms to fill out. I've dealt with this stuff at work, as I was at some point responsible for maintaining a small warehouse of tech stuff. I know it's a bit work when the manufacturers gets difficult. However, as a consumer, that's not my problem. I found out that it was the other store I bought it from. Brought it to them, Told them what the issue was, they wrote a some short sentences on a form, put it in the box and shipped it. Said "we got this" - no questions asked. One month later, the camera was back from a trip across europe with a new shutter mechanism installed. Nobody asked if I had maybe tinkered with it or anything like that. So the answer is a change of the laws that the stores has to honor. Otherwise the manufacturers do what they want to consumers. They don't do whatever they want to big store chains tho. They might try, but as a middle man that buys a lot more than a single consumer, you have significantly more power to negotiate good / swift processes when there's a situation.
@Killerjockel95
@Killerjockel95 23 дня назад
GN always slaps but the "Schrödingers RMA" line killed me 😂😂😂😅 Keep up the great journalism!
@yugnok
@yugnok Месяц назад
I remember 15 years ago people saying that its always a gamble with ASUS. "They make great hardware, but if anything goes wrong you are screwed." I have rolled the dice in the past with ASUS and never had an issue. I won't risk it anymore.
@nadirqg
@nadirqg Месяц назад
Rolled the dice too, I have one Asus product and it failed and warranty was rejected
@X41N3
@X41N3 Месяц назад
I'm kinda done with Asus after all this shit. Not just Asus BTW.. also Samsung..typical big company dick moves
@stevenmartin3656
@stevenmartin3656 Месяц назад
I bought a ROG monitor a few years ago for $600. After a year or 2 the monitor screen went black. There were 0 aftermarket repair parts so I sent it to ASUS. I was sent an Email saying the repair would cost $700. The monitor was selling brand new on Amazon for $550 at the time. My first and last ASUS product.
@nathanaelniklaus2981
@nathanaelniklaus2981 Месяц назад
@@stevenmartin3656 That's why I don't get how so many people were persuaded to buy the PG32UCDM and soon PG32UCDP when you can get an LG 55 inch OLED C4 or G3 for the same price. The only differences - 120 Hz vs 240 Hz, Sound vs no Sound, no DSC vs DSC and turn on and off with remote vs without remote control. Edit: so overall a clear superior experience (size matters) except the turning on/off and 120 Hz which you probably will not even see/feel a difference and if, it's minor. The 4090 does seldom exceed 120 Hz anyways.
@Je-tm2ku
@Je-tm2ku Месяц назад
Same here….past products have been good but this kind of behavior from customer support has made my decision.
@mxss115
@mxss115 Месяц назад
My option of asus has gone from “do not purchase for myself” to “vehemently tell anyone considering any asus product to reconsider”
@Dooblecaine
@Dooblecaine Месяц назад
Yes. Friends don't let friends buy ASUS.
@snowysysadmin59
@snowysysadmin59 Месяц назад
See, im going to SLIGHTLY argue this. I dont know if ive just gotten lucky? or maybe asus loves me? But, i have NEVER had an issue with any RMAs through them, or any products of theres. I have been buying ASUS motherboards since 2012 for ALL of my systems. My first one I ever bought, that I still have, that is actively being used in a server as I type this, is a Crosshair V Formula Z. My current gaming right that I built a year ago has a Asus TUF whatever in it, no issues. I had to RMA a board for a faulty RAM slot on my parents build I did and had a replacement back within a week, no charge or anything. So maybe ive just gotten lucky. But I have seen ALOT of others have issues and Im like what are you people doing to cause this? And I guess Steves video shows it clearly. I digress, Im going to still buy asus's motherboards because ive had great luck with them. fingers crossed. OH YOU KNOW WHAT. now that I think about it, the Crosshair MOBO i have did have one RMA as well back in 2013. The bios chip died on it and i needed a replacement. whats cool about those mobos is that the bios chip is swappable. you can remove it and install a new one. so i put in an RMA for it, they sent me a new bios chip ready to go free of charge and its been fine since then. Took less than i week from what I remember. maybe im just lucky.
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox Месяц назад
I have also been scammed by Asus by receiving a monitor with broken gsync - this scam was was initiated by a problem at Nvidia as they gave Asus a bad file, but Asus does not want to fix the issue and you can't flash a fixed firmware to the monitor because there is no updated firmware or way to update it. Piece of garbage.
@fn5k
@fn5k Месяц назад
Asus used to make great products, and their motherboards were my brand of choice. But then various cautionary stories about their products started to surface. I was also really unhappy with the insane stock overvolting on their Z490, although the build quality was fine. A few years ago, I bought an Asus laptop, and the power button stopped working mechanically after two days. I returned it and decided never to buy from them again. This video has further reinforced my decision to distance myself from them as much as possible.
@DriverDude100
@DriverDude100 Месяц назад
Wow! Way to drive your company into the ground. Bye Asus.
@ADRENELINEDUDE
@ADRENELINEDUDE 25 дней назад
It's been like this for over 10 years, I have fought and even had lawsuits between Asus.
@therealTuggatron
@therealTuggatron 8 дней назад
Glad someone pointed this video out to me. I was actually in the market for one of those.
@ClassicGameFire
@ClassicGameFire Месяц назад
“Accessories will not be returned to you” bruh could you imagine dropping your car off at the mechanic and they return the vehicle but take your spare tire
@TheCommanderTaco
@TheCommanderTaco Месяц назад
Spare tire, charging cables, radio lol.
@wolfhunter98
@wolfhunter98 Месяц назад
@@TheCommanderTaco The back doors. Those aren't needed.
@WiFilia
@WiFilia Месяц назад
Should've welded on your roof-rack bruh /s
@knives01ng
@knives01ng Месяц назад
I think they have an English word for that… it’s called THEFT.
@westerwald78
@westerwald78 Месяц назад
Same with Gigabyte here in Germany - they tell you not to send any other parts
@TehGordonFreeman
@TehGordonFreeman Месяц назад
I work for a private company who does contracted warranty repair work for various big name brands (HP/ASUS/Acer/Lenovo/LG/Dell/Apple/etc.). I don't know what ASUS's internal warranty repair staff do, but I might be able to comment on the reason that the repair detail sheet had so many (seemingly unrelated) faults on it. Typically with these companies, their service center management programs are asinine and clunky (to say the least); in order to get parts from the company to repair a device, the part has to be marked against a specific fault which was found during diagnosis (the process would be the same for the inhouse warranty center, if they have one; they likely use third party contractors like me). I almost never get to just email the company and say "Hey, this and that are broken, please send these parts for me to repair the device". I instead have to log in to the repair portal, add all the problems that I found during the diagnosis phase, then select which parts are required to rectify the fault (or sometimes the specific parts are "preallocated" against a fault, so if I report "screen damaged", that would mean the company would automatically send me the screen and case assembly to repair the device, in this instance). I also *do not want* to repair a device, only to have the device still not work after replacing the parts I "ordered" to fix it. This results in delays, missed SLAs, and poor metrics for our company in the eyes of the manufacturer/vendor. So, using the situation at hand with the device in this video, I would want to replace not just the left joystick, but also the IO board for the joystick (the problem could be with one of the ADC chips which tells the CPU the location of the joystick, one of the connectors for the flat flex cables, etc. etc.). Knowing that the left joystick had a fault, I'd also want to replace the right one, too, (it's almost certainly from the same batch and has seen the same amount of use, so it's worth replacing it now instead of causing another RMA case if it fails in the future). Then with the SD card fault, it could be a faulty SD card slot, but the issue could also be with the circuit on the mainboard, too. This slot is soldered directly to the mainboard, so it's not like a separate item which is easily replaced. It's simply cheaper and more cost effective to replace the entire mainboard, rather than to try and do a component level repair on the SD card slot itself (also, vendors almost never make components available to you for repair, the labour costs would be insane when compared to the cost of the entire mainboard). "Connector broken" is likely so that they can get/allocate the flat flex cable which goes between the two IO boards (connector could also mean any of the internal connectors, not just one of the external connectors). "Mechanical assembly problem" would likely just be a generic "fault" which allows you to then allocate miscellaneous parts (in this case the insulating mylar tape for one of the connectors/cables/or battery). "System noise" would also be a generic "fault", so that I could allocate new tape for one of the connectors/cables/battery/etc. "Gap abnormal" would be another generic "fault" that would be used to allocate one or more of the case components (RGB rings around the joysticks, buttons, screws, springs, etc). All of this is to say that the repair technician likely diagnosed the fault, decided what parts needed replacing, then just added whatever "faults" were necessary to the repair job in order to get the parts they need from the company. It sounds insane (because it sort of is), but it's how these processes work in the background. This usually results in reports to the customer which look like this and can leave you scratching your head about all these "random" issues which seem to have magically appeared with your device. As for the case damage, I agree that in this situation it is patently insane to reject an RMA because of such a minor dent on the case, however, I do run into situations like this (particularly with Apple). If there's any amount of CID on an Apple device (other than light wear marks on the screen or bezels from normal use), Apple will fight me on the repair. The issue I have is that if I repair a device with even minor CID on it, I risk Apple not paying my invoice for the repair, I will have to bear the cost of the parts, and I risk my status as an Apple Authorised Service Centre. I don't get to reject the repair because of CID, I just have to report it to Apple and let them decide what they want to do about it. Unfortunately this can result in situations like this one, where the company decides to be massive a-holes about it, and attempt to reject the RMA. There's unfortunately not a lot of advice I can offer in situations like this, other than to clean the device with a dry cloth before you send it in for RMA (even a little bit of dirt can make minor damage look more prominent), and to push back. Clearly state that you do not care about any cosmetic issues with the device, and that you don't want them repaired unless they are covered by the warranty. Argue with them about the fact that the minor damage does not affect the function of the device, or that it has no bearing on the issue which it is being sent in for; and finally, play dumb. *Do not* admit to anything that they might be able to use against you. Don't tell them it fell off the bed and landed on a pillow, don't tell them that you dropped the device 6 months ago but it's been working fine since, don't say that you cleaned the screen with a wet rag, don't say that you left your device in your hot car, or that you don't use the factory charger, etc. Answer their questions with the minimum amount of detail that you possibly can, and remember, the problem *always* started during normal use of the device, and not following some event or other. You were just using it as per normal one day, then all of a sudden the joystick stopped working/the screen went black/it turned off/it got hot/etc.
@sebastiaobergmann5110
@sebastiaobergmann5110 Месяц назад
Amazing comment, thanks for the insight and advice
@Algernon_1337
@Algernon_1337 Месяц назад
Thank you.
@Eener1000
@Eener1000 Месяц назад
This is why we need to support Right to Repair.
@tehphoebus
@tehphoebus Месяц назад
Thank you for taking the time to explain that. Very informative. 😊
@themuffinfish2091
@themuffinfish2091 Месяц назад
I hope GN sees this!
@Michael-it6gb
@Michael-it6gb 17 часов назад
Companies ruining things have been a trend lately. I had my car serviced and then the glovebox was damaged, now I need that fix that. Scam-tendencies.
@Rayven0205
@Rayven0205 3 дня назад
i don’t know how to feel about this but here is my story. One month ago: Sent my Asus Z790 Gaming A D4 because of no POST. They repaired it. Current: The issue recurred, sent it back and Asus mentioned they can’t replace it because of repair history. And it was their own repair!
@DMNPlays
@DMNPlays Месяц назад
Brazil retail worker here. I work in a major electronics store here for almost 9 years. Every time we sent in an Asus device for repair, Asus always deny warranty saying that the product is damaged by the customer.
@closesho
@closesho Месяц назад
po que bacana.. comprei uma 4060 dual oc deles sexta feira 💀💀
@DMNPlays
@DMNPlays Месяц назад
@@closesho Tomara que não dê defeito!
@raphaelsouza5302
@raphaelsouza5302 Месяц назад
​@@closeshokkkkk boa sorte. 🤞🏻
@Number6_
@Number6_ Месяц назад
Car companies and parts manufactures used to do the same thing.
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn Месяц назад
Its not just Asus. At this point I have not had a single accepted warranty since the late 90s. Last year HP did this to me with the same reason (slight damage in the plastic caused by manufacturing error), fun fact: after paid repair they returned the laptop damaged. 4 Years ago MSI did the same (claiming that a short in the power plug + magic smoke was customer damage) and about 7 years ago Asus (heat damage to motherboard caused by proximity of heatpipe to one of the capacitors on the board, claimed that said heat damage was caused by me dropping the laptop). Every single time I had to pay for the repairs at least 25% of the price of new device. Its also sad that all those devices had manufacturing and/or design issues that required repairs during the initial warranty periods.
@zivzulander
@zivzulander Месяц назад
You know Steve is perturbed when he has to break out the microscope 😁
@bp6942
@bp6942 Месяц назад
Either that, or horny. (sorry, couldn't resist)
@EmblemParade
@EmblemParade Месяц назад
Perturbed? He was positively glowing. He LOVES breaking out diagnostic equipment!
@SansAppellation
@SansAppellation Месяц назад
That was just for show. GN already logged that damage themselves before sending it in (6:08). So why the big performance?
@TheKotor2309
@TheKotor2309 Месяц назад
@@SansAppellationsounds like someone is perturbed.
@SansAppellation
@SansAppellation Месяц назад
​@@TheKotor2309 well sure, but GN are being deliberately shady here, feigning innocence while self-reporting and then making a song and dance when the other party is being shady in response
@antxonitxo
@antxonitxo 24 дня назад
Please keep us updated on this! I was about to buy a ROG and now I guess it's gonna be a Steam Deck instead x)
@hovant6666
@hovant6666 27 дней назад
You take your car to the dealership shop for routine maintenance, then suddenly she shop tells you you need a whole new brake assembly because they don't know that you remember that they did that last year. True story.
@ByrdmanAero
@ByrdmanAero Месяц назад
I saw the GPU thread on Reddit and everyone was saying to contact Gamers Nexus. Good to see you once again sticking up for the consumers. Its why I love this channel.
@breakupgoogle4584
@breakupgoogle4584 Месяц назад
Yep. Their coverage was so good on the EKWB story I bought a shirt. They earned it.
@ByrdmanAero
@ByrdmanAero Месяц назад
@@breakupgoogle4584 I loved their coverage on EKWB because I have had two of their pumps fail on me and made the mistake of buying their fav controller, which was complete garage. I didn't even know they ended up allowing returns because of how bad it was until it was too late
@the_holy_forestfairy
@the_holy_forestfairy Месяц назад
That's why Jayztwocents said "FU*K YOU, ASUS!" and no longer works with ASUS...
@nagranoth_
@nagranoth_ Месяц назад
except when he did his recent video on how you can waste money, the expensive motherboard was an Asus, I think.
@kennyd7667
@kennyd7667 Месяц назад
​@@nagranoth_ It might have been from his stock of pc parts and just grabbed an asus motherboard
@flimermithrandir
@flimermithrandir Месяц назад
I don’t know about that Video but another one that I watched he used one too and explained he has it here and it’s the only one that has a certain Function or something. Maybe a similar Situation. But he canceled his Sponsor Dealss with them.
@antoniocampos5638
@antoniocampos5638 Месяц назад
​@@kennyd7667 Likely. He had worked with them and correlated partners, so plenty of props from ASUS. Not to mention related "partners" only sending an ASUS model for reviewing after his call out and not other brand or something more "founderly". So other companies partnering with ASUS seems to be as sketchy.
@apotato5563
@apotato5563 Месяц назад
The actual reason was the horrible communication with the marketing department. The am5 fiasco was the nail in the coffin
@johnbarton7168
@johnbarton7168 22 дня назад
This has been going on with Asus since early last decade. Purchased an Asus Sabre-tooth Z77 Mobo in April 2012. Could not get it to post out of the box. Sent it back to the place of purchase. Their techs felt it was an issue with the memory controller. They sent it back to Asus, who said it was a bent pin on the lga socket. The place I purchased it from felt this was bullshit as neither I , nor them, could see any bent pins. They picked up the cost for the 'repair' and returned it to me. That board still has not missed a beat 12 years later but felt that Asus were trying to scam me back then in 2012
@sonawhite8813
@sonawhite8813 День назад
This reminds me of a bluescreen issue my company has with inbuilt micro sd card readers. Whenever these readers auto update through windows update, the entiee pc bluescreens and requires a full reset. So we had to diaable windows updates only for that specific driver
@WryJab
@WryJab Месяц назад
I sent in mine for repair simple joystick issue. turns out a little connector just below the SD card was unplugged. Asus tried to charge me £700 for motherboard repair. They claimed I had repasted the APU and paste was present on the motherboard which had in turn damaged the board. I rejected the quote and they charged me £45 to send my ally back. I posted this on the Asus Rog Ally Reddit and got hate for it with my post being bombarded by "fanboy" comments and eventually taken down by a moderator. Good this video has come to light.
@lenscapes2755
@lenscapes2755 Месяц назад
Every company has these "fanboy" crowds and people seem to not listen advices of not fully committing to one company. Every brand makes mistakes.
@elihernandez330
@elihernandez330 Месяц назад
I fucking hate company Fanboys I don't understand why they put effort into defending these Mega corporations. they are literally just a human on this planet they have one life and they're going to waste that life defending a corporation that wouldn't hesitate to sell them for $5 on the black market if they could legally get away with it.
@gringotico1759
@gringotico1759 Месяц назад
Dude I sent a laptop for a second time to them, and they broke one of its hinges and then tried to charge me $400 to fix it. NEVER BUY FROM ASUS
@BananaBlooD9517
@BananaBlooD9517 Месяц назад
@@lenscapes2755 I'm pretty sure I can count on one hand the number of tech company that has good to amazing customer support & RMA. 😅 At this point it's a matter of documenting what you get & having good customer laws in your country.
@DonOfAnn
@DonOfAnn Месяц назад
@@lenscapes2755 its probably bots lmfao
@fadingdimension
@fadingdimension Месяц назад
This is a 3rd party company named Chem USA that Asus contracts for warranty fullfilment. Asus essentially grants them the ability to decide if the issue is covered under warranty or not. I do warranty repairs for a few companies at a 3rd party company. If we complete a repair out of warranty, we get paid, NOT the Manufacturer. Warranty repairs pay about half as much as normal invoiced repairs. So it's pretty clear this company is trying to deny the warranty so they can invoice the bill for themselves. To be clear though its still Asus's responsibility.
@p71_caleb
@p71_caleb Месяц назад
I would like to find out what other company contracts Chem USA for warranty, and see if the experience is similar. Also, the language on their website is not great, lots of misspellings.
@brianvogt8125
@brianvogt8125 Месяц назад
Fault lies with Asus for contracting its work out to a scammer.
@MattRocha-sc2sp
@MattRocha-sc2sp Месяц назад
This is like the kind of scummy bullshit that should cost them money instead of save them money as is evident by this investigation.
@witchygal2703
@witchygal2703 Месяц назад
This is interesting information. Great to know. I should add this as one of consideration from which brand to buy a new laptop from.
@davidwood7170
@davidwood7170 29 дней назад
Doesnt matter , ASUS BOD should be aware of these practices becasue its affecting their reputation. Or do thsy not care?
@suburbanview
@suburbanview 13 дней назад
What a difference with DELL. They sent an engineer to your house,, changed or fixed the issue, and at no charge at all (of course, I have a $400/y warranty). So far they changed my laptop keyboard twice because of factory issues.
@clyde._
@clyde._ 8 дней назад
Management at ASUS repairs needs a revision.
@clyde._
@clyde._ 8 дней назад
We are allowed to expect more from ASUS. I remember going to SONY and Panasonic HQ/repair centers as a young teen. They were surprised and joyed to see me, refurbishing the product before allowing me to leave.
@Oryips
@Oryips Месяц назад
I’m no lawyer but this looks like a class-action lawsuit
@aight111
@aight111 Месяц назад
Lawyers be like 💵💵💵💵💵
@fantasyskeep
@fantasyskeep Месяц назад
As an IT advisor for a little over 200 companies in the Tampa area, I always tell my clientele to avoid the first iteration of an electronic product. Now I have to tell them to avoid yet another entire brand of products.
@WiFilia
@WiFilia Месяц назад
Regarding home appliances I just heard the opposite. Contractor was installing a new microwave and said you can bet they cut material costs after an initial launch earns praise. Just noticed the newer versions of the same model pickle ball paddle I own is significantly worse in quality than mine, too. I'm sure various industries are more prone to "testing in production" and fully agree w your statement.
@katame_no_shi
@katame_no_shi Месяц назад
@@WiFilia apple does that, just look at the vr headset they launched
@Louis_H_
@Louis_H_ Месяц назад
Razer launched their blade series and their chargers for a LOT of iterations had problems where they would just catch fire, happened to me a couple weeks ago, couldn't believe so many people had this problem too
@darekmistrz4364
@darekmistrz4364 Месяц назад
@@WiFilia That was also the case for some SSD drives where it turned out the company (i cant remember the name) changed out inside components but left the original model name. It was misleading because initial benchmarks were very good, but cheaper revision that was sold 2 years later had horrible performance.
@fantasyskeep
@fantasyskeep Месяц назад
@WiFilia just because I advise against buying the first iteration of something doesnt mean I also advise that they buy the following iterations.
@user-zs9cr3mt1v
@user-zs9cr3mt1v 4 дня назад
big thanks for GN, rn the asus rma for my display is only using 2 day without any over messg (Canada), i cannot believe that this happen was before 2 years ago... last time they fix my 6800xtlc was taking 3 weeks and they don't even let me know when they done, until I ask them done or not.
@pr1ckastley
@pr1ckastley 8 дней назад
I was saving up to buy a Rog Ally but after watching this video I got myself a Steam Deck Oled today. Thanks!
@Dreamagain11
@Dreamagain11 Месяц назад
"Any out of warranty repairs paid by the customer is non-refundable and does not guarantee we'll repair it" uh.. WHAT?!
@ericm5315
@ericm5315 Месяц назад
Products and services that are sold must be fit for the intended purpose. ASUS lawyers are morons.
@jonintrovertednerd9988
@jonintrovertednerd9988 Месяц назад
​@@ericm5315 It's anywhere like this. Eorh various services. Go to a private doctor, have him do nothing and demand a lot of money for visit.
@Hikari_Sakurai
@Hikari_Sakurai Месяц назад
that sounds illegal to me lmao
@benneboii8117
@benneboii8117 Месяц назад
That's insane. You are paying for repairs, but they can't guarantee it to be fixed? That sounds EXTREMLY vile and probably illegal, atleast in the EU.
@jonintrovertednerd9988
@jonintrovertednerd9988 Месяц назад
@@benneboii8117 You know nothing bros - It sounds wrong, but it is in fact legal. Paying for attempt, service, consultation, whatever. Same thing happens with most paid services. Like doctor visits paid from your own wallet - They get the same amount of money from you no matter if they decide to help you or not. Give them money, but expect nothing back. They just deserve it man... I know it shouldn't be legal, but it is. You would be more likely to get consequences than them. Customer, patient or client rights - It's all a joke to the law. Can you afford a better lawyer than them? Likely not.
@-Taerar-
@-Taerar- Месяц назад
ASUS is now blacklisted for me. They have “sus” in their name for a reason. Certainly a sus company.
@vinnycuomo8956
@vinnycuomo8956 Месяц назад
best point on here
@Kokoryu874
@Kokoryu874 Месяц назад
Hella sus
@RepublicOfWesternCanadaNOW
@RepublicOfWesternCanadaNOW Месяц назад
​@@Kokoryu874 HellAsus
@lukenaegle5014
@lukenaegle5014 Месяц назад
They are certainly a-sus imposter in the computer realm
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 Месяц назад
After watching this video I agree 100% SUS, and I can say I've gotten better customer service from random eBay, and Aliexpress sellers when something has gone wrong.
@newerahopefamily3837
@newerahopefamily3837 27 дней назад
I was planning to get the ROG Ally Z1 extreme.. thanks to this video I will save my money and look for another hand held.
@xseveredsaintx
@xseveredsaintx 10 дней назад
8:40 I think my favorite part of that form is the crossed out "Yes" with a handwritten "No" next to it to revoke consent to survey participation. They straight up didnt want to give you an option on that one LOL
@oatbear8243
@oatbear8243 Месяц назад
Love it when a famous YT channel reviews a warranty claim. It's the only way to improve company's behavior. Keep up the good work!
@sidehop
@sidehop Месяц назад
*stop being shady for profit
@KingLich451
@KingLich451 Месяц назад
@@sidehop the only way to stop anything from happening is to file your Consumer Complaints.
@user-do1hk7mg5y
@user-do1hk7mg5y Месяц назад
Hopefully someone finds a way to create a company that sets the standard for warranty processes, and sets ratings for that. In Sweden the general review standard is "trustpilot" (probably a bit international). So if a company has bad reviews on trustpilot people will avoid them. Trustpilot checks that you bought from the company and then gives the company 0 influence over how your review is shown. If this was done for warranty matters, it could give people great insights in how shady Apple, Samsung and Asus are with their warranty claims.
@yaboul8159
@yaboul8159 Месяц назад
@@user-do1hk7mg5y It's called Amazon. They litterally take back and refund faulty products or replace it without any questions asked. 100% prefer dealing with them than directly with shady manufacturers (TBH MSI not much better than Asus in my experience)
@ToreOnYouTube
@ToreOnYouTube Месяц назад
I worked at a large online retailer. I sat in our direct technical customer support. Most, if not all ASUS RMA’s would be come back with notices of CID. Scratches, “too much dust”/dirty product, liquid damage, even assuming customer shaking the product too much… We changed our procedure to photograph all CPU sockets, ports, PCB’s of ASUS products, before forwarding, simply to help our customers from unfair practices.
@larzblast
@larzblast Месяц назад
No doubt, it created a ton of headaches for you guys as well, so that's your incentive to take those extra steps. Understandable and highly respectable.
@etr1us
@etr1us Месяц назад
lol that was my exact thoughts on how to prevent those scams prior to reading ur comment
@ToreOnYouTube
@ToreOnYouTube Месяц назад
@@larzblast Of course this was the first concern from the higher-ups. If we hadn’t documented any damages before shipping it further, the liability was ours. From my perspective, it was just nice to be able to actually help and protect our customers, now that we got the extra time allowed per case. But ASUS was notorious for finding the smallest dings and some even with more damage than was sent in. It really did seem like a giant scam from ASUS side. We had so many beefs with their RMA department.
@affieuk
@affieuk Месяц назад
There is a simple fix for this large retailers, stop stocking the parts and tell the vendor to shove it.
@ToreOnYouTube
@ToreOnYouTube Месяц назад
@@affieuk Most online retailers aren’t stocking most parts anymore. They advertise whatever suppliers have in stock, then they either sell directly or repack and ship at their own warehouse. Essentially, most of the catalogue is actually not specifically put for sale, but comes from a database the supplier announces to their customers (retailers).
@deepelements
@deepelements 10 дней назад
I had an Asus laptop that need to get some parts replaced and what I found out is sometimes they don't really do the repairs themselves. Not always but sometimes it's like some company they hire to do the fixes. And depending on who they hire the quality can vary. Not that that's an excuse but yea they had my laptop for awhile but it did get fixed.
@IamThatChris
@IamThatChris Месяц назад
I sent my ROG Ally Z1 extreme last year to fix the SD issue. It was sent to their warehouse in Netherlands. They sent it back to me after a week and said they found no issues. I went to the local shop ElGiganten and they actually got it repaired after a few days. Then I sold it and got myself a Steam Deck OLED. Never touching ASUS again.
@bink0615
@bink0615 Месяц назад
Lol the ending where you bought a Steam Deck instead cracked me up! I have had horrible experiences with Asus hardware from phones to laptops to motherboards that when I heard they're making the Ally my first thought was how long will this shit last before something breaks as is their usual MO. This was the main reason I opted for the Steam Deck instead of the Ally as well and I've had no ragrets.
@GamingLovesJohn
@GamingLovesJohn Месяц назад
Based ending and understanding of when the device malfunctions again, ASUS definitely will not have your back.
@thesaddestdude3575
@thesaddestdude3575 Месяц назад
Danish?
@godwhomismike
@godwhomismike Месяц назад
$200 extortion penalty for what is basically a fingernail indentation - Steve should also report ASUS to his state's Attorney General of Consumer Protection and have them go after them as well.
@Golecom2
@Golecom2 Месяц назад
Next time, we have to awaken the Force to avoid any "Use marks" on our products. Since using the product avoids the warranty it seems.
@kusucks991
@kusucks991 Месяц назад
@@Golecom2 "This unit appears to have been removed from the packaging and used in multiple environments, which allows and encourages accidental physical damage to the outside of the unit, which can then cause damage inside that is not visible, and anything could happen really. So, unfortunately, this exposure to the elements voids your warranty on the device. However, we can repair the device at your cost for the original MSRP price, plus a 20% assembly fee, to bring it back to working condition. Would this be acceptable solution for you?"
@phillgizmo8934
@phillgizmo8934 Месяц назад
@@kusucks991 And they "propose" this after they hold your property hostage.
@The_SUN1234
@The_SUN1234 Месяц назад
opening a product should not void the varranty. when something is factory defect no matter how much you open it its still going to be a defect and obvious one at that. so them claiming this is pure corporate greed and digusting practice as always.
@dead-claudia
@dead-claudia Месяц назад
such minor indentations can literally come just from disassembly by a company's support tech with specialized equipment and using proper procedures and shipping can cause that even in original packaging it's borderline fraudulent to even call that a defect worth rejecting a warranty claim over
@PizzaSlinga
@PizzaSlinga 8 дней назад
Thank you for the FTC recommendation!! Love this idea. Ganna come in handy
@Eromatic
@Eromatic 27 дней назад
Imagine had a professional power tool manufacturer did something similar over a tiny scratch or ding, you can bet that they wouldn't be in business for long.
@ZenonSethG
@ZenonSethG Месяц назад
I'm going to keep donating and buying things from GN exactly because of videos like this. I'm never buying or recommended anything ASUS ever again. On top of the bad service and overcharged, asking users to write their OS password in plain text on paper that you send via mail is abysmally bad security, I can't believe, at a multi-million dollar company, someone looked and approved that form. At best this is utterly incompetent, at worst this is outright malicious, on purpose.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Thank you for the huge donation and for your support! Hopefully ASUS sees the pressure and changes. It might need a shakeup internally too.
@digletwithn
@digletwithn Месяц назад
This is disgusting behavior. I 100% agree with @ZenonSethG here. Thanks for your work ​@GamersNexus ❤
@GeorgeTsiros
@GeorgeTsiros Месяц назад
"multi-million dollar company": 2022 revenue according to wikipedia was ~16 *billion* USD.
@hircine92h
@hircine92h 11 дней назад
Billion*
@ryantheodore7919
@ryantheodore7919 Месяц назад
You should do a video where you purchase a brand new ASUS, open the box then close it up and mail it in saying there's a "problem" and see what they say.
@jsteezy80
@jsteezy80 Месяц назад
This actually happened to them not long ago with newegg I think. They bought a motherboard and ended up not needing it and sent it back and they said the pins were damaged. I can't fully remember the details though
@jayflach3408
@jayflach3408 Месяц назад
Think they claimed there was thermal paste in the socket.
@justaskin8523
@justaskin8523 Месяц назад
Or don't even open the box. Slice open the seal but don't open it; then just hand it to the UPS or FedEx guy for taping and re-sealing. Film it all without jumps or starts.
@RmX.
@RmX. Месяц назад
These people at Asus are on drugs or something, doesn't matter what you send them they want you to pay 200-500 dollars for the damage they've done
@MiningdragonLP
@MiningdragonLP Месяц назад
​@@jayflach3408 no it was thermal pate
@Chapmanzee
@Chapmanzee 11 дней назад
I heard a lot of the companies rejecting warranties because of "Physical Damage". We bought 6 noise cancelling headsets from Sony for some of our staff, and were planning to buy one for all our staff of 28. With in 3 days one speaker popped out at the hinge, the following week another. We called the reseller and then were given Sony's customer support number. We called, "we don't cover Physical damage". They offer us 10% off a new set. Looking at there forums this was happening a lot. Even a reviewer had the same problem, but wrote Sony replace them quickly and with no fuss. I know some will say, "If they snapped or popped out of a socket then that is you being to rough". I expect a mechanical part to be durable for the one of the most expensive headset on the market. This excuse allows companies to send poor quality products out the door with no accountability. This was 4 months ago and only 2 headset didn't pop out of the hinge. Being a machine shop we crafted new parts in steel to replace the cheap plastic socket that was used and got Sennheiser's for the rest of the staff.
@Pes._
@Pes._ 10 дней назад
Shouldnt went with senns first n foremost, no one does the headset game better and gives a relatively fair warrenty. Hd660s be amazing
@TheMaxAwesome
@TheMaxAwesome Месяц назад
Man, Gaben’s “release good products, do nothing, and let the competition shoot themselves in the foot” strategy wins again. My Steam Deck just keeps gaining value.
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 Месяц назад
It's absurd. May your spirit never die, Mr. Newell.
@captinsparklezremix
@captinsparklezremix Месяц назад
Didn't know Gabe made GPUs lmao come on watch the video presented in your stupid face.
@BeyondImaginationzz
@BeyondImaginationzz Месяц назад
this is reason I am excited for Neon Prime
@catzor4795
@catzor4795 Месяц назад
Never forget that Valve pioneered and normalized microtransactions while also hiring psychologists to exploit gamers. And also promoting gambling to kids.
@Madcatcomix
@Madcatcomix Месяц назад
Valve is a weird company, they just removed micro transactions from dota 2 and focused on content (there are still paid things but they removed thr battle pass which they pioneered reasoning that though it made a crap of money not all players enjoy it. It's now free event with extra pay to unlock content.) I feel like it depends on the team working on the project rather than a general Valve issue. They are a very horizontal company. ​@@catzor4795
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