ASUS TUF A15 (4800H+2060) - Hot or Not? 

What cooling pads do you use jarrod

I cannot wait for the 1660 Ti review to come for this laptop! Your videos have helped me choose which type of laptop to buy in the near future

@@shivansharora4647 It's in the description, thermaltake massive 20.

Super excited for all the upcoming videos. 😁

@@JarrodsTech oh sorry, my bad

As the prophecy foretold.

@@masternobody1896 Gaming laptops were never meant to replace your gaming pc.... its common sense that something smaller will be unable to match its larger counterpart..... Gaming laptops are mostly for those who dont have a space to keep a gaming pc or want to carry around high powered machines with them (like college students who mostly live in small dorm rooms)

@@masternobody1896 ofc You won't get the PC and laptop of the same specs for the same performance for the reasons: heat is the important thing, and as Abhigyan said gaming laptop aren't supposed to be replaced or reliable because many people do have problem to carry around or do travel a lot. That's the main reason why gaming laptop exist

@@JarrodsTech Bro I'm building a PC just for gaming.....so what should I choose....ryzen 5 3500 rtx 2060 super or ryzen 5 3600 rtx 2060 ....plz reply

This happens everytime to me

🔥🔥 thermal throttling over here!

Lol

Jarrod'sTech Yeah 😁

@@ChaitanyaThorat and ur mine name same lol

Yeah dude, that's really disappointing, just wondering why TF asus did this kind of treatments for their AMD Ryzen line up models, i mean "ALL of THEIR RYZEN MODEL".

Its a real shame u cant undervolt the Ryzen chips. That actually makes them not worth buying. My I7 and rtx 2060 both run so much better undervolted.

@@bradbeyers9028 Would not be needed. Asus has deliberately nerfed the thermals.

@@bradbeyers9028 Imagine there is motor manufacturer. It builds the most powerful and efficient motors in the world and Ford implements its into their car with blocks instead of wheels. Then you see a review of that car and state that the motor sucks, because the car is not accelerating.

@@WCIIIReiniger This is so frustrating! Even the dell g5 se has a poor thermal design. AMD should make their own laptops.

Alrighty, so here's a particular benchmarking analysis that I ran as an example. This is the DiRT Rally benchmark, with almost everything set to ultra, along w/ 4XAA: STOCK EVERYTHING = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 95.0C / 86.0C AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 125.40 / 98.28 / 156.58 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1319 MHz @ 0.709 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 19.1 W / 67.2 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - STOCK CPU + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 95.0C / 86.0C AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 128.17 / 96.86 / 167.45 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 20.9 W / 64.7 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 99% TRICK = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 83.2 / 86.0 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 80.65 / 53.16 / 110.96 MAX CPU CLK: 1700 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1634 MHz @ 0.849 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 10.6 W / 74.4 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 99% TRICK + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 75.9 / 74.2 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 79.45 / 52.58 / 105.39 MAX CPU CLK: 1700 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 10.0 W / 50.1 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TB DISABLED = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 88.7 / 84.6 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 118.43 / 83.47 / 162.66 MAX CPU CLK: 2890 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1413 MHz @ 0.739 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 15.1 W / 69.7 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TB DISABLED + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 84.4 / 80.5 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 125.33 / 84.48 / 168.51 MAX CPU CLK: 2890 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 14.9 W / 64.8 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 8W = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 87.8 / 84.7 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 116.42 / 90.18 / 150.84 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1421 MHz @ 0.744 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 14.3 W / 70.7 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 8W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 84.5 / 80.5 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 121.01 / 93.26 / 149.23 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 14.6 W / 65.9 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 9W = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 91.2 / 85.8 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 118.12 / 91.03 / 155.67 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1233 MHz @ 0.681 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 15.6 W / 60.1 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 9W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 85.7 / 80.9 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 126.20 / 96.98 / 163.15 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 15.8 W / 66.0 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 11W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 90.0 / 81.7 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 129.47 / 81.51 / 166.97 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 18.6 W / 65.8 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 6W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 78.2 / 76.3 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 110.62 / 82.08 / 138.84 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 12.0 W / 65.3 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 5W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 75.7 / 74.2 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 101.30 / 77.67 / 133.44 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 10.9 W / 62.6 W CONCLUSION: If you're looking for a quick and dirty, set-it-and-forget-it mod, it appears that disabling turbo boost while simultaneously undervolting/overclocking the GPU will generally yield you pretty good results while leaving your FPS on par w/ stock no less! THEN, if you want ultimate control, you can alternatively squeeze a little more FPS out of your games -- depending on how you feel about your temps -- by using Ryzen Controller, albeit thus requiring a little trial and error along the way to find the ideal TDP value. Basically, one method (the turbo-boost-disabling method) keeps CPU temps down by capping your boost clocks, while the other method (the RC method) keeps CPU temps down by capping your TDP. The two work in similar ways -- but differently -- and as such, each have their own respective benefits depending on which game you play / what your goals are. (The RC method works better for me when playing NFS, for instance, as it does a better job at preventing me from going over 90C, while the turbo-boost-disabing method works better for me when playing DiRT Rally, as it doesn't seem to push me past 85C anyways). AND FINALLY, if you're into squeezing as much gameplay out of your machine for as little power spent (and fan noise) as possible -- like gaming on battery for instance -- nothing beats the RC method, hands down. Not even the 99% trick. (And certainly not the turbo-boost-disabling trick, nor the Silent Mode profile in Armoury Crate, for that matter, either.) I mean, 78C/76C on the CPU/GPU, w/ 110 FPS average, all while using only 12W/65W of CPU/GPU power? SOLD! Ultimately though, the real mod that is making these CPU mods worth doing is the GPU undervolting/overclocking mod using MSI afterburner! For without it, CPU temps just aren't as capable of dropping so easily (because of how the two share heatpipes). Thank goodness for MSI Afterburner!

@@zoinbergs Wow, your comment is incredibly helpful. Thanks a lot man!

William Montgomery It’s seems that the RC TDP @ 11W + GPU UV/OC is the best way to lower down the temp but what does RC TDP @ 11W means? I’m thinking of getting this or a MSI laptop with a i7 9 gen but the ryzen 7 4800h is better than the the i7 but I heard it has a good cooling and build. Idk which one to get.

@@mp3sefu RC TDP @ 11W means that I set a value of 11 in Ryzen Controller for the CPU TDP value. (Of course, the conversion rate for "set" TDP vs the "true" TDP the CPU will be running at isn't actually 1:1, so fortunately by setting it at 11 you're not **actually** going to see the CPU physically capped at 11 watts (as evidenced by its reported 18.6W use in HWInfo64). But yes, ultimately I have found that a TDP value of 11 to 13 in RC yields me the best results in games, depending on how CPU intensive the game is. Fortunately, you can simply minimize the game, change the TDP value on the fly, and then restore back into the game without restarting it, so the trial-and-error aspect of the tweak is easy to put up with! Personally, I have had great success with ASUS. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend their products to anyone. (Not a paid endorsement here, I'm just a repair technician by trade).

tyvm for all that info and testing. So for everyday use with chrome/netflix and the Sims4 / Assassins creed kind of titles should i just set the 99% cpu trick to prevent too much heating ? What do you suggest.

Thanks! Me too! So far I have just one other, another A15 but with 1660 Ti, apparently the G5 I bought has a June 18 ETA despite buying it 11 days ago and they advertised it with a 5-8 day delivery time lol.

hey i love and subscribed to two of your channel and keep it up!

+1

No problem!

Thanks, no ETA, still not available in Australia :(

@@JarrodsTech That's unfortunate. I hope it becomes available to you soon. Besides that, your reviews are informative, well made, of good quality and detailed. Big thanks.

Cheers!

Internal temps are important, too, because of the throttle.

@@Zysperro thats why i said "almost". I can ignore throttling if framerates are decent like say 70fps instead of 110fps. But i CANNOT tolerate a burning wrist/palm.

@@pipebomber04 LoL. The REAL throttling starts at 95+ and it's not just slight fps drop - it causes micro-freezes that make gaming exp a torture. You can work around high surface temps by using additional keyboard+mouse, but you can't really avoid high temps throttling caused by bad architecture (Cooling pad rarely helps).

@@Zysperro i have been playing on throttling laptops since my college days until today. And micro stuttering almost doesnt happen. Using an external keyboard makes the laptop screen farther away.

We'll get there!

@@JarrodsTech OH HELL YEAH! ;D

MrHamncheez Can’t they put filters over the vents?

The fans are using centrifugal rejection of dust particles that get pushed down channels and out of the machine as opposed to through the heat sinks if my understanding is correct

That didn't prevent my cpu fan from becoming a brick of dust after 4 months

Hey there! I've been able to lower the TDP of my 4800H using "Ryzen Controller," which is almost the same as undervolting. By doing so, I have been able to manipulate my temps down to the exact degree. The actual TDP > TDP conversion rate isn't 1:1, so I pretty much start with 20 in RC and go up or down from there. But basically, I have achieved great frames rates, at great temps, and have been quite satisfied with the program thus far! For example, I have my TDP set for NFS Payback at 15 watts, and have my GPU locked (using MSI Afterburner) at 1500MHz/0.700V, and have been able to achieve ~100 FPS on high settings w/ 4XAA while holding 85C on the CPU and 75C on the GPU. Like I said, I could go up or down on the CPU temp, by about a 1.5 degrees per TDP value. I just find myself most comfortable sitting at 85C or so, while still being able to achieve super high frame rates at pretty high detail levels. Basically if I wanted to see 75C on the CPU, for example, I would just lower the TDP in RC to 14 or 13 or something (and would thus be seeing ~80 FPS while playing). Hope this helps, and happy gaming!

Maybe it was because they wanted a more rugged design that could survive getting dropped I’m not sure it looks like the designers thought about it

the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act in the US would suggest your warranty is intact. if you are US resident that is. Many countries like Canada, USA and Germany restrict when a manufacturer can void your warranty and for what reaosn. They would have to show your modifications caused the issue that it was being serviced for.

HP hates Jarrod’s guts unfortunately ☹️

@@jay-5061 Lmao, sad.

Wow, thanks!

This statement should be added in the list of Universal truth. - Jarrod never disappoints, he always exceeds expectations.

I know you have logogit plus on your phone.

Thanks, while I wouldn't recommend it, people did find that the G15 thermals improve by taking off plastic covers over the fans, so figured same principle would probably apply here too if you're desperate.

Interesting GoTeamScotch, looks like thermal repaste is the only thing I can do to reduce heat as cooling pads looks to not work on this one well.

So , in essense , a bad design by ASUS... Either bad thermals in general , or bad thermals for specific components like VRM? Idk why ASUS is doing this , same with G15 ... Honestly, the G14 has same or better thermals than G15 and TUF and it runs CPU at the same 35 W...

6000rpm coolingpad might help, suncell coolingpad

@@ianjasperona3576 find a cooling pad with bigger fans. they can spin slower and still move as much air as smaller faster fans

Haha cheers!

This was a test to see if there was interest, wasn't really planning on doing it much in future but some people asked about it for this machine specifically, so I guess if there is I can keep doing it - I'm personally not a fan 😅

Yes, once they are available in my country, no ETA yet though.

are they gonna use a 60hz screen their?

@@JarrodsTech Thanks Jarrod. Ur inputs will help largely in deciding between these two models. Looking forward for the reviews/comparison 👍

Yes, see here: ru-vid.comUgy1H4Uhd4YXtmXSWFF4AaABCQ

@@JarrodsTech Great news!

@@JarrodsTech thanks bro

No problem! Haha if you actually do the holes I'd be interested to hear if it helps.

@@JarrodsTech will sure do!

Thinking I'd do the same. Cheers

@@JarrodsTech hey Jarrod, thought I share it with you guys. Here an explanation from ASUS last January about the bottom panel. What you guys think? 🤔 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZIoID2kOCso.html

Thanks!

Let's gooooo!

That's Asus blame not AMD, Asus blocked intakes for coolers... Easy fix is to drill same holes on the back of the cover...

@@hugobalbino2041 And then void any warranty?

@@Hiscocks2008 sry for the late reply but pick your poison to keep your laptop blocked from the air and eventually dies of heat or void your warranty and make holes on the back cover using a precision tool like a Dremel to make a proper intake vents !?

@@Hiscocks2008 the warranty lasts only for so long. Drill holes after that maybe ?

If they're the same price msi

MSI all the way.

No the CPU here gets very low power when the GPU runs at 90W, compared intel laptops.

@@AysDoStuff No, because it's TUF. TUF build design and quality are just shit. Almost explicitly built to be shit.

@Zieg such a shame really, just putting a few more holes at almost no extra manufacturing cost could have solve all this bad reputation to TUF series

Hardware Unboxed also did a similar video on this. The TUF series are disappointing...

@Zieg The panel is bad, the design of the frame is bad, even the finish is bad imo. Then there's the problem with TUF mobos and graphic cards. Shit thermals and build quality. TUF is just bad, and Asus are just trying to scam people with their "new budget line".

Because of money, obviously

also, this is a lot cheaper in my country than the Helios 300, Omen 15 and basically same price as Lenovo Y540 and Nitro 5. Specs I believe is the most bang for the buck for USD$1,700 here. For example, the Alienware M17 R3 with RTX 2070 here is USD$3,600 and the OMEN 15 with 2070 Max Q is USD$2,300

I play just tota war and other strategy games.. All games I played with my Xbox one x and 4k TV.. So do recommend it to me?

@@RTXTi-vu2gz those games are more cpu than Gpu intensive. I would go for the 4800h with GTX 1660. But yes i would the CPU is a beast and if you don't mind the hotter than usual (within manufacturer limits) themals its a full go! Totally recommend I've been loving my laptop!

Look here! Ill help you Max performance at lower temp. 89°C 3800 hz and avarage of 105 fps on cod bo cold war. To get this you need to download ryzen controller program. Tdp set to 35, boost tdp to 42 and after boost set tdp to 32. This is fot ryzen 7 4800h. If you have different processor you need to check what tdp your processor normally has. R7 4800h has 35 tdp. Give this a like if it helped you so others see it. Thanx and good luck guys!

@@andrematty2356 where can i download the ryzen controller?

Is it usable during longer gaming sessions? I genrally play Sekiro, Destiny 2. How is the performance so far? Are you satisified? Should I jump the shark and buy this laptop?

@@oxnyz1883 i've played ac odyssey on it for about 5 hours and i didn't feel any problems. No lagging at all

@@oxnyz1883 whilst playing destiny 2 at max settings im averagely at 90 degrees with the cpu @40W, gpu sits at 87 degrees but pulls 100W but i dont notice any lag or throttling but the boost generally drops from 4.5Ghz to about 3.6Ghz but i did notice a spike for a brief second of 100 degrees, i believe asus could have done better with the cooling

@@dudz1055 apparently there's some upscaling or something that the Ryzen options have enabled... If you switch that off it runs cooler?

@@BigEezie im not exactly sure where to find this setting

Perfect timing!

Yeah new RU-vid thing, basically you just do normal timestamps in the description and they add it in.

@@JarrodsTech how do you add timestamps in youtube?

Wait, how I don’t get it.

@@uttankkaul8325 I think you just add it to the description of your video. Look at the description of this vid

@@uttankkaul8325 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HZTStHzWRxM.html

This one is suppose to go for 1200 USD, it will change if you xhange the components

I haven't looked at the price yet so can't say, I do that at the end of the review process, basically the last step.

$1200 USD for 4800H + 2060

Thanks!

Got you covered with this one: jarrods.tech/is-it-safe-to-play-games-on-a-gaming-laptop-for-hours/

@@JarrodsTech thank you ♥️

@@JarrodsTech Thank you for this link. My tuf a15 does not go higher than 88 base on msi afterburner. Thank you again for this wonderful information.

How is the Temperature while gaming?Pls I am thinking to buy this laptop but I have troubles because of the thermal

@@zerorl4481 There is too much power in this machine to ignore it's fair price. I'd rather save $1,000 and figure out thernal cooling solutions overtime than spend $2,000 on a machine that *may* run games slighty better.

@@magno172 I'm considering just dremeling open some more vents... Supposedly there's also a paper(?) covering over one of the fans. Another reviewer removed it and her temps got drastically better.

@@soroneir1260 please see the advice on using ryzen controller and MSI afterburner in this comments section before having to cut holes in the base. It was also stressed that the vram gets cooled through the vents in between the rear heat sinks and if you cut it open it will cause less air to be drawn that way. It works great and i now have peak cpu temp of 81 and 79 on the GPU.

Playing games at 90+ constantly means that the components will give up or die sooner... Maybe in 2 years it will start thermal throttling. Also the fact that cooling pads are not helping means it is a BAD choice.

If it gets that high, accomplish what it needs to and then lowers, everything's fine. BUT say if you are gaming for a few hours, then all the machine is gonna be heated a lot and so some components got temperature tolerance, or limits. It may and WILL: increase electrical resistance which will reduce efficiency, faster electrical pathways degradation, even low temperature solder may melt (ok that one is rare or even non-existent on recent hardware, screw you internet and fake news). Here are some info I found here and there: - HDDs and SSDs As per Seagate response: "The operating temperature range for most Seagate hard drives is 5 to 50 degrees Celsius." Most SSDs are rated for running within a temperature range of 0ºC up to a max temp of 70ºC. WD red HDDs can operate from 0 up to 70ºC. However, studies like the one Facebook conducted in their own data centers found that the hotter your SSD runs, the quicker it wears out the flash memory inside of the drive. So while an SSD can technically operate at the higher ranges advertised by manufacturers, you’re going to get better data integrity and more life out of your SSD if you keep it cool. Also note that HDDs S.M.A.R.T. feature stores the highest temperature attained. If it ever surpasses it's rated max temp, it may void the warranty. - Battery As per iFixit: "If You Leave It Plugged In, Don’t Let It Run Hot. Keeping your laptop plugged in regularly, with the battery charged to 100 percent, isn’t slowly killing it, despite what you may read. The exception is if your laptop runs hot. This could be because you’re doing a lot of compiling, rendering, or other intensive work, or because it’s hot where the laptop is used, due to sunlight, exhaust, or other factors. When you combine a battery at maximum capacity with serious heat exposure, that’s when it starts taking damage and losing life." - GPUs and CPUs Lots of GPUs will operate comfortably up to 95ºC, CPUs up to 105ºC. You may need to check yours but I wouldn't fear as those are made to last. -RAM and motherboard Couldn't find any evidence as to what maximum temperature is safe to run under. OK we're done so lower is better, how low is good? Well it shall never fall below room temperature as water drop would form onto components due to condensation. Anyways as a rule of thumb: lower is better, a laptop is not meant to be up and running all day, and wear a face cover if you go somewhere and you can't stay 2m afar from random people. :-)

What did you choose?

@@Zaid-rv5wy I chose g14

Me too but with at least a 2070 bro

it isn't too good to be true, it has a small 60 watt hour battery. Now if that laptop had 90 watt hour battery like MAG 15 it would be perfection

@tabaluga check their Twitter out they upgraded the battery now. Not quite as the mag but is an increase

I would also like to see this laptop reviewed. Have my eye on the eXmg Neo 15 which is the same I think, and the 2060 it's advertised as 110 watts. Would be interesting to see how it performs against 90 watts 2070/2080

@@mw38390 they had 48 watt hours, later they upgraded to 60 watt hours I talked abotu in my comment. Still small for a gaming laptop, would most likely get around 5 hours of normal use like watching videos. And considering that unlike many other brands it doesn't have a battery charge limitation it would degrade quite fast and in like 3 years it would only have half the already small capacity.

Yeah cooling looks much better on those and bigger battery too

Just get a G531, repaste it and thank me later.

I'm having same confusion

Yes I am also getting a new laptop but I am also confused as which one should I pick Acer nitro 5 Acer pradetor hellios 300 with i5 and gtx 1660 ti or Asus A15 with ryzen with rtx 2060 can any one pzz help me

@@V3doP4jzs thx for the advice, I really like the rog but unfortunetly at the same price these 3 laptops comes with 1660 ti but the rog series comes with 1650 :(

​@@phantomphorever9764 G531 costs slightly more, because it has better cooling than the other laptops you mentioned. It does not matter if a laptop has better graphic card than the other, if you can not use its full capacity because of cooling issues. I bought Helios 300 first, I sent it back to the shop because it was loud as hell and was way too hot. Since half a year I have G531, you need to repaste the cooling system, UV (like Helios 300 does automaticaly with predator sense) and you will have no heat proplems in games! Or you buy TUF, Helios 300 or Legion 540, and will constatly have heat issues, frame drops in games, and your laptop will be damaged more likely beacuse of high temperatures.

No problem! Yeah fair enough

What's the price??

Yes i do agree, the pricing here in India is a complete shit😑

Acer is the best, ive never had problems with their laptops

Ifkr! The price in India is crap! Helios 300 seems much more value for money

Yeah man. Laptop pricing is crazy in India. I was considering this one as well but thermals and display turned me off. Let's what Acer does with an updated Predator series.

40c and no ac?! maybe the US isnt so bad lol. ignore the shit show though. media is the biggest problem

@@bradhaines3142 LMAO. The thing is I use my laptop either at my home or my uni hostel. My home has an AC while my hostel room doesn't which is the story of pretty much every government college in India lol. I just don't want a situation where I have to rely on an AC for gaming. 40C is not unbearable for us tho lol. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

@@kimasot6206 yeah we thrive at 40C

@@localghost3000 Exactly tho I can see the price dropping in a couple of months or maybe even weeks. It happened with the last TUFs as well. They really screwed the screen and thermals tho. I think the last year's Helios is still a great deal considering you can make do with a average battery. The prices would be dropping now to make way for new stock.

I am also been thinking whether vacuum fan would work better here for a15

Hey there! I use the vacuum coolers, and while they don't work very well alone (as they only seem to induce the inside to ramp temps back up to max) they work WONDERS once you disable turbo boost while simultaneously undervolting/overclocking the GPU. As in, with all three mods, I've been able to game in the high 60's / low 70's with ZERO loss in framerates! (Without the vacuum coolers I still see mid 80's for CPU and low 80's for GPU which is still great IMO).

Probably not, HP ignore me.

@@JarrodsTech time would tell I hope they would soon be begging you to review their products

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Hey there Gabby, did you get one? Because I received one yesterday.

@@lieveling and how is it?? Does it get hot??

@@ppaditya8146 Hey Aditya, feel free to contact me via other channels as you will get answers to all of your questions much faster. Well, let's get to the point. When i received the laptop and turned it to 'turbo' mode the temperature went high very fast without even doing anything only surfing the web. When I was playing Saints Row 4 at ultra graphics it reached a crazy high temperature of 90 degree Celsius which is very bad. Currently i'm working on the temperatures of the laptop right now to get better temperatures.

@@ppaditya8146 if i'm not able to lower the temperatures, I'm going to return the laptop.

@@lieveling oh okay.. I'm confused which one to get.. thought of going for hp omen.. heard very good reviews. But slightly more expensive..

I'd never trust ASUS they're as bad as Nvidia and Intel. Overrated and over priced.

Probably not, HP ignore me and are generally over priced in my country.

Not mediocre but deliberately nerfed.

Yeah it sucks so much I just want a top tier ultrabook with these components and enough cooling to let them run at 100% of their potential.. why is that so hard?

@@isbestlizard its not hard, they deliberately want people to go for the rog instead, so people end up paying twice the price for similar if not the same specs

Thanks! No plans yet, have been asking for Aspire series for months but no reply from Acer yet :(

Did you then? I am considering it myself.

@@friedsugar2701 heya don't do it I got a Y540