It’s a cheaper option for some more people to get into the 4k system, but I would’ve preferred them to work on the flipper lag issue or to get the second set of Natural History tables finished!
I think AG's a big enough company at this point to handle all of the above! I think though that it's more on Zen's ability to make their games work on the 4KP hardware.
I think that most serious hobbyists would tend to go for the premium model, while most people walking through a Cost-Co would have no interest in OTG. The reason this machine is unique in the world is that it's no muss, no fuss licensed pins. And to look cool, which it does. Honestly, giving up the topper would be a bigger deal to me!
Good point, I tend to think of myself as a nerd wanting the best bang for my buck rather than a casual gamer that might see this in public, but $999 would be a slightly easier pill to swallow. As for the topper I agree, while cool it isn’t a game changer at all
PCB! Screen went black, PCB started making a horrible whining sound. All despite kid glove treatment and less than a hundred plays. Opened a ticket with A1up over a month ago, no response. So yeah.
AFM does look sweet, doesn't it? Considering the lowest possible price is $1199, it's a pretty amazing deal. Hey, at the very least it is an option, and having more choices is always a good thing.
I believe not only should they support, but promote the HD Legends Pinball instead of this new watered downed, but still hecka expensive 4K thing. The HD should be promoted as the "affordable" family budget Pinball, keeping the price at about half of the 4K. While promoting the 4K as the enthusiasts Pinball. Both have a place, if promoted thusly. As far Arcade1Up, competition is always good for the consumer. Even if the current offering is not to my liking, hopefully something will pop up, or at least keep the competition on their toes and push the bar.
If you can get an Arcade1Up pinball with no lag for 300 on FB marketplace I'll take it! Then I'll wait for At games to get their lag fixed before I spend over a thousand dollars on a virtual pinball.
More options are more betterer! The new 4KP is just so much better in so many ways over the ALP. The SSF kit is truly a massive upgrade, as are having the Zen games (even with some lag). There's just so much AG can do with the chipset that's in the ALP; surprised they're squeezing as much out of them as they have....
Yeah, but it's not there at all on the non-Zen games. Something to do with android and Unreal5 engine I suppose. So you'd think there would - eventually - be able to figure out how. I'm just surprised it's taking this long.
Great vid as always JDV. I’ve been holding off buying an ATGames 4K pinball machine until they get that flipper lag fixed, but it’s looking more and more like that isn’t such a simple software fix. I’m glad I wasn’t a day one buyer. For now, I’ll stick with my old ALP HD which they seem to no longer care about. I think the ALU4K is in the same place as that driving cab they announced a long time ago. Never going to happen.
Thanks Mike! Hey, they're still giving ALP owners a little sugar! I can't blame anyone for waiting until the lag is sorted, but in truth it is a still a sweet machine with lots of awesome pins. The SSF kit is an amazing upgrade over the ALP... but the lag is a drag. Hey, that rhymed!
You know, it's been so long since the announcement that I've forgotten! Pretty sure the cab is almost the same dimensions (including screen) as the current ALU.
RU-vidrs need to hammer down on atgames about the lag and other issues with the zen tables. Atgames isn't being transparent at all to the community, and they are going as far to silent people on their Facebook page. They will remove comments and delete posts if it doesn't fit their narrative. They also have atgames influencers who praise the zen tables blindly due to the obvious $$$. The majority of people bought this due to the zen partnership, and thus far it's been a trip full of road blocks, pot holes, and U turns. Atgames needs to make a video with Zen explaining what is going on and their plan to fix the problems. This would go a long way in instilling trust within the community and confidence going forward. Seems so obvious yet atgames chooses to do nothing.
I don't know - I think everyone who does these sorts of videos has done oodles of content on the lag. At this point, it's a well known issue. But I do agree about AG being more transparent about the issue. It really should have been fixed by now, and b/c it's not, they should give us a roadmap or other statement on where it stands.
No, it isn't... but a lot of buyers would be fine with that! And if AG follows its own trends, all of the things held off of the budget models will (likely) be on sale during their quarterly National Owner's Day sales.
1200 dollars for a Legend pinball that doesn't work as it should? No thanks. When I hit the button I had better see that flipper move at light speed. Sure Arcade1Up pinball not as big, 720p but no lag. No lag is what it's all about or your just wasting time pretending to play pinball.
Well... the cabs do work. Games from/by Zen still have some lag (but are still plenty playable). Other games (I think it's over 120) have no lag at all. The 4KP completely destroys the A1up pins; totally apples and oranges. The backbox screen on the 4KP is as big as the playfield on the A1up, which is not close to 720p (more like 480 at best). Also, the 4KP's SSF kit is amazing. All that said, I completely understand people holding off on buying a 4KP until the lag is gone on the Zen games.
@@evilgeniusentertainmentThe Intec gaming mod plus any other extras like exciters a shaker and a 27" screen might run you 500 to 600 dollars in total because Arcade1Up pinballs are going for 300 on Facebook Marketplace. For half the price if you're willing to do the work when you hit the flipper button it will actually do it's thing. No back glass but for half the price and no frustration when playing Zen games like Adams Family it's worth it. If you like a pretty machine with the back glass that plays many games without flipper lag then I get it. But if you're willing to mod your machine without hardly any flipper lag and are OK without a matching back glass then that might be the way to go for some.
That A1up cab is just so small. I mean you can cram a 32" monitor into it, but realistically if you're going to do all the work needed to get it remotely close to the 4KP, you might as well get something from game from solutions, or a real pinball cab shell. I'm not crushing anyone for getting an A1up pin, but they're a very entry-level machine.
I disagree, at least a little bit - first time we have 20 games (much stronger argument for it being a legit multicade), the first time we've seen some of these game for a long time (and first time this combo of games is available), it's got a nice big body/big screen, the controller deck could actually fit 2 adults, it looks nice - it's an interesting product, but I agree that no, it's not for most of the people in this community.
Most arcade gameroom dudes have already bought a pacman etc. from Arcade1Up. There's always somebody NEW looking for a pacman cab.Keep making the machines new people will happily buy them. Ofcourse not the ones that already have one.
@@evilgeniusentertainment The problem with multicades is the tradeoff of sacrificing gameplay controls with wonky button configurations and for that reason alone I am not a fan of multicades. I will take the original control/button layout everytime.
