Frank Turek is asked a series of challenging questions by a young atheist in a Q&A line. This conversation is remarkable. You can find all of Frank’s videos at @crossexamined Enjoy!
I am being 100% honest.. Today, I had this exact same question in my mind. What created God? I start mindlessly and randomly browsing my RU-vid feed and see this video shows up.. I truly believe this video was Gods way of giving me answers…Just like what was stated in the video.. if you seek God out he will show you the way.
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_WisdomMy 11 year old daughter had the same question less than one hour ago. Just went to go to sleep and open RU-vid and this is first video that pops up.
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
@@Getthetruth5yes, amen. Amen in that he found the truth in that not only are we not certain, but the god assumption is the most of ignorant of the stated options.
This kid is terrific. Good questions, and he phrased them more clearly than most anyone I’ve heard before. Discussing with someone like this is a gift because he helps everyone think more clearly about the topic. Very respectful too.
@Brian Stevens we dont have to think 🤔 we KNOW 💡 God says it in His word He created us to worship and love Him. To be His bride, His family, His love!
The difference between this kid and most atheists who 'debate' Christianity is that he's actually -searching- for answers, instead of searching for a way to disprove the answer. He wants to know, genuinely, and that's why he's not just kicking and screaming against the words being said. He walked away from that debate a winner whether he got the answers he was expecting or not, because he was respectful and actually -listened-. Good on him.
But see, trying to disprove answers is how science works. If you look for answers, to prove something, you will inevitably find something, no matter how stupid or improbable it must be. That is confirmation bias -- it's how flat-earthers stay flat-earthers.
@@The6thMessenger While I don't disagree that scientific theory required as much disproving as proving, and they're certainly discussing some science based ideas, I would actually argue that this conversation is largely more faith based than science based. But what I meant, and probably didn't phrase right was more that most theological/atheist debates I've seen are largely just arguments for superiority, rather than actually discussions for information. This one felt the contrary to that! Hope that clarifies!
I think you have a very harmful view of atheists. I’m an atheist and I watch videos on religion all the time looking for answers, I just think the points coming from the sides of the atheists make more sense to me personally. A small portion of us are “kicking and screaming” and make the others look bad. Just the same as a small portion of religious people are super judgmental and make you look bad. I feel like most rational people from both sides are just looking for answers, there’s just a small portion of them that make both sides look bad, and of course they’re the ones that are shown more often because they’re seeking attention.
@@sagemodead9877 I don't recall giving a view in a generalized sense - only that the majority of these videos are not so good natured and usually result in a screaming match (often one sided).
@@erinjoyner3739 I definitely have saw it both ways, but I think either way neither side is a good representation of that group of individuals as a whole
I used to be an aetheist and I used to have lots of questions and reasons to avoid him. But I always felt as if someone was watching over me. But got delivered me out of that darkness. He brought me out of the darkness and into the light. Now I'm continuously imprvoving on myself as best as I could. And if I felt alone in my battles back then, I'm now with God who is constantly battling my battles all because he loves me ❤
Our children were poisoned because of these broadcasts, atheism is a lie, you removed everyone, Allah is a supreme being, the denial of the person who denies him does not cast a shadow on the existence of Allah, billions of people believe, pray, prostrate, the one who answers the prayers and knows what people want is Allah, these channels are harmful and you are making ignorant comments here, God have mercy. It shows compassion and does not burn people in hell. Do not scare people with hell.
I love your ministry!!I've been a Christian for almost 30 yrs and have always had these type of questions in the back of my mind without anyone ever having the knowledge to explain like this vid. I now have an 11yr daughter with the same questions and now from what i learned I am able to at least help her understand a bit of what I had longed to know for yrs.
That young man grabbed my heart! So polite, well spoken and intelligent. It's my hearts prayer and desire that he would come to the saving knowledge of God and find peace in it.
Until he’s burning down the cities with a ski mask because he thinks black people are beneath him, with a sign that says “put trump in jail, because “I think” he’s a danger to our democracy so I don’t want anyone to be aloud to vote for him” 👍
What an incredible exchange. The young man was brilliant! The answers were compelling, wise, and very easy to understand. I loved this debate. So, I'm subscribing to your channel, Mr. McGuire. Thank you for choosing to publish such healthy content. Keep up the excellent work.
If the church could foster this kind of conversation with curious unbelievers, unbelievers and atheist will have such a different opinion of the body of Christ. Amazing conversation ❤
@@MsViva710 I generally believe it’s good for people to believe in something because it makes them better people and I also see religions more like traditions and not so much about God necessarily. What happened back in those days? Nobody knows for sure but there’s definitely something paranormal and we call it paranormal because we don’t have the understanding of physics yet but it’s more likely that it was non-human intelligence rather than the creator of the universe because even the word “creator” doesn’t make sense. Who created the creator? See? We don’t have the right questions to ask and that’s because we don’t have the physics yet or maybe we do in some black project. Remains to be seen. So back to what I was saying, it’s undecidable, at least in terms of public knowledge that is protected under the freedom of information act. In terms of secret knowledge, there’s probably a lot more that we are unaware of.. meaning the public.
This is the healthiest, ego-free conversation I've heard. Love how both sides validated eachother. I wish we could extend this level of respect and embrace towards other subjects that are so polarized today.
YES.!!!!!!!! IN LEARNING CLASS TODAY... intelligent people discuss ALL things......and well not so intelligent people ARGUE and separate themselves from discussions and ALL things they disagree with which IS hmmmm NOT intelligent and or ''not well thought out'' and or ''' ignorant '' and Ignorant people are just STUCK in their thinking process and I am in NO way speaking down to Ignorant people I am JUST pointing out the obvious ALL humans HAVE the ability to NOT be Ignorant IN FACT we are ALL born to be constantly learning ''' Ignorant ''......we ALL are but '''STUPID'' is KNOWING better and STILL choosing to be willfully Ignorant .....well.....THAT IS ALL ON YOU .....and I hope you always STAY LEARNING....it's the best ...I promise....MUCH LOVE...[[[[Teesus]]]]]
@@JFlyer1973I see this argument a lot. The issue is that a debate is one thing, we can all agree or disagree and nothing comes of it. In politics decisions have to be made about things that greatly affect peoples lives. It's the making of the decision that often angers those who oppose said decision.
I love that kid. He is intelligent with his questions. In fact, they are genuine questions for everyone to understand the question of God. God bless him and may he open his heart to God
THAT is what healthy debate/discussion looks like. No screaming, finger pointing or accusations. I wish more people in society would learn to communicate better with each other.
These are setup with rules people have to adhere by or they get kicked off and never asked back. A TV host for instance gets barely any time and has execs pushing them to move on. In a perfect world every debate has no time limit and everyone is allowed to speak with no interruption
My respect the guy who ask the question. He was polite and respectful. So many times I want to give up with GOD but I'm here waiting for him to hear me🙏🏾😭
That is the rare thing called "wisdom". Not a lot of it out there. If case you've read "The Republic" - Plato - the points are made through a logic based dialog.
The liberals especially need to learn this. They are quick to just call you a racist or Hitler or a sexist or whatever else as soon as you disagree with them about something.
If there was ever a video that I should memorize, this one is it! It is so compact and to the point. So clear and logical. For sure, I'm going to memorize it!
The young guy was cool being respectful and honest about his Atheistic views. I'm glad brother Frank Turek addresses Atheism and beliefs of other religions and worldviews on Cross Examined ministry. I was an atheist and agnostic from 17-19 years old until I discovered evidence of God's Existence and Christianity myself. Creation requires a Creator we human beings would call God. Atheists seem to think that God cares if we know that He exists or not obviously don't understand why the last book of The Bible is called Revelation because He finally reveals Himself to the whole world. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth (Yeshua H'Mashiac The Messiah in Hebrew) is The Son of The Living God came to save us from the Eternal consequences of our sins. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
yeah very rare thing but probably the dude was anti because by others experiences! i mean of course you can get bad experiences even in christian community... but in other fact the christianity itself a very well made stuff ;)
a very often seen superficial comment. Not fantastic, adds nothing to the topic. Sorry, don't wanna be rude, it1s just annoying to say the least.I wanna read topic related comments, instead I read your comment over and over, almost word by word. I just wanna kill myself. Please do not take it personally... I do not know you, nut I would be interested why did you feel you need to copy maybe rephrase a little the 20 thousand comment before you? Just why? What's the resoning behind it? I can explain my comment, can you yours?
The young guy was cool being respectful and honest about his Atheistic views. I'm glad brother Frank Turek addresses Atheism and beliefs of other religions and worldviews on Cross Examined ministry. I was an atheist and agnostic from 17-19 years old until I discovered evidence of God's Existence and Christianity myself. Creation requires a Creator we human beings would call God. Atheists seem to think that God cares if we know that He exists or not obviously don't understand why the last book of The Bible is called Revelation because He finally reveals Himself to the whole world. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth (Yeshua H'Mashiac The Messiah in Hebrew) is The Son of The Living God came to save us from the Eternal consequences of our sins. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
Love your commentaries in your videos, they help clarify all the theories being thrown out by Dr. Turek. Dr. Turek has great examples when he speaks! Amen!
This kid obviously studied material from another atheist's playbook on how to trip up Creationists. Any kid could have done that. And there is nothing intelligent about denying the existence of God Almighty.
All I can add is that this young man is way more intelligent than me, I believe in God but I just do, this young man has actually very credible questions and he isn’t arrogant or smug trying to get the gotcha question.
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
The professors answers were entirely rational. Although rationale is a human endeavour and god is possibly a creation of man and god doesn’t mind us drawing that “rational “ conclusion and still apparently wants us to know his presence
I think it's great to seek truth. I always wonder when talking with people. 1) What convinced you of the God you believe in? 2) At what age did you become convinced? Feel free to answer.
I really needed this video, I was feeling like everything seemed like the world was about to shut down and I was saddened by this fear of dying. Now I know that resuming my faith in God gives me the comfort to continue living and appreciate the things he gives me.
a very often seen superficial comment. Not fantastic, adds nothing to the topic. Sorry, don't wanna be rude, it1s just annoying to say the least.I wanna read topic related comments, instead I read your comment over and over, almost word by word. I just wanna kill myself. Please do not take it personally... I do not know you, I would be interested why did you feel you need to copy maybe rephrase a little the 20 thousand comment before you? Just why? What's the resoning behind it? I can explain my comment, can you yours?
@@maccusmc 1. There is all kinds of evidence for God, you just refuse to open your eyes. I’m know this comment will open a “pandoras box” of questions/debates, and there is some great videos on many of those questions. 2. Faith. 3. Philosophically, I could argue “why would anyone not believe in God when there is no evidence he does not exist”? I hope you find your way.
@Frank Houck great show me this evidence. Secondly, faith is belief without evidence. When we believe things without evidence then you can justify anything. Like 911
I soak up all this like a sponge. Thank you all for your true intellect and thought-provoking "wonderments". And thank You God for being so patient, loving and just Your Presence...
I think you’re saying that a meritocratic system of public discourse would be a benefit to the government of our societies. 100%. Now. Just figure out a way to suppress the opulent reach and influence of the plutocrats and I think you may have a platform.
Love this channel. I typically am not too interested these types of content creators where they just provide commentary on other's hard work but this is truly golden. I am also burnt out on the Christian vs Christian channels (the prot and catholic debates specifically).
Christianity is a culture, not a fact. Whatever you choose to follow should only be able to facilitate an evolution to your being. Giving you the tools to be able to unshackle you from any limitations spiritually and within in life. Religions generally tend to tie their followers to them too tightly through greed and control (Spanish inquisition, taliban in Afghanistan) rarely do they give the tools to help you guide your own spiritual development which in turn then evolves the religion itself. It was a Roman Emperor Constantine that developed Christianity to have the heaven and hell notion in order to have some allegiance and obedience towards his religion. Creating fear among his people not freedom. It originally had the belief of reincarnation. Says a lot about the idea of God giving free will, when it could be that you are a piece of god and free will is an immutable condition to your being as God has ultimate free will. Making you your own saviour. Buddhism has many great tools of self development and its said that Jesus was a reincarnation of the Buddha.
I have just watched your content for the first time . I love your intelligence and humility. Thank you for your work on the subject of God and Christianity and the brilliant way you interact with the video to give your view. I am now subscribed and I wish you well . AMEN BROTHER❤
You know that a debate is a war of words, but not of violence and profanity, but an apologetic display of logic and common sense. This debate was well done, no one was offended, and the one questioning was humble enough to accept the response when it addressed all of the problems of the questioner.
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
@@BirdNatureView Because we have no idea what came before it. It could be the big bang emerged from some pre universe state that has always existed. It seems to be likely that the big bang emerged from something rather than nothing (although we can't prove that either)
@@mightbeahuman3442 He misrepresents what science says to better make his point. Ex: he misrepresents what the second law of thermodynamics says, he uses the big bang as if science use it as a proven fact, which it is not, ...
I'm so used to listening to dramatic political debate/arguments. It was amazing to see an intellectual conversation between two very brilliant lads. One person sits and listens, while the other speaks. Then stops speaking, awaits a response. Amazing!
Turek had a compelling argument. There are other ways Turek could have countered the so called assumed dichotomy. The answer is given by the Creator Himself on Jeremiah 17:9, Romans 1:18 amd several other passages.
I agree. I love when people go in, ask tough questions and is still open to the response and asking questions without being disrespectful. Just asking these questions to hear someone's answer.
@@Miked1332 yeah, but this wasn’t a tough question, the who made god question is one I heard in bible school as a child, a tough question would be like: how can we trust the message of the Bible is true when so much of it is demonstrably false? Like I wouldn’t trust a ikea instruction manual to build a shelf if it was constantly incorrect or missing parts or steps.
@@Giantmidgetmotochannel- I disagree that much of the Bible is demonstrably false. Are you willing to defend that claim that you smuggled into the question you posed?
@@markskojec863 of course, and you don’t have to take my word for it, there are libraries full of examples of inaccuracies, contradictions, and preposterous claims (like the nature of the planet) that biblical scholars have gone over in great detail. Did you have a favorite bit that you think shows a clear example of the Bible giving an accurate representation of something profound?
Well said! Thank you LORD for the life or Dr. Frank Turek! All the glory, honor, praises and thanksgiving only to you my LORD! And thank you LORD for this channel!
No. He clearly is just a gentlemen. Turek`s example didn`t make sense. "His" god would punish someone just for not "believing" in him but rewards any murderer who does. Pablo Escobar is with god, he killed men, women and children, even killed his lovers, cheated, sold drugs. A true christian.
I always like how Frank Turek is able to give so many obviously correct arguments (this time about physics) and I always agree with him for most of the video and then he just becomes illogical at one point. At point Turek's logic will always fall apart. This time it happens at time-point 4:14. No, if something immaterial and timeless caused the universe, which is a reasonable conclusion, we still don't know anything about that cause, except being immaterial and timeless. For example, we don't know that that cause is intelligent, which is the very important feature of a God.
@@Mastamindzmuzik I agree. Then why is Turek pretending to have the answers, when he doesn't? There is a spaceless and timeless cause of the universe? Very well, I agree. But we must stop there, because we don't know anything else about the cause. We don't know it's God.
@@kellystone7501 I always like how Frank Turek is able to give so many obviously correct arguments (this time about physics) and I always agree with him for most of the video and then he just becomes illogical at one point. At point Turek's logic will always fall apart. This time it happens at time-point 4:14. No, if something immaterial and timeless caused the universe, which is a reasonable conclusion, we still don't know anything about that cause, except being immaterial and timeless. For example, we don't know that that cause is intelligent, which is a very important feature of a God.
@@goranmilic442yeah, the assumption is always that the created was on purpose and by an intelligent being when you don’t really have the evidence to prove it, it is always just assumed
Props to the kid. He remained very calm and used his logic and reasoning without getting emotional. I pray he keeps searching, questioning everything, and finds the truth somr day.
@@bender6316 then there's no harm done. You can be religious your whole life, but if death turns out to just be infinite nothingness, then your actions on earth will have no good nor bad impact on the afterlife. People will never find "the truth". That's why faith and belief exists. We can only have faith in our belief. We can believe that our belief is true, but we actually have no proof of our belief. Otherwise it wouldn't be a belief, but a fact.
Never mind that religion destroyed the original path or worship and made it a crime 🤮 if we ALL worshipped mother earth instead of made up characters we would live in peace.
The way he rolled off the S-U-R-G-E acronym without fail was nothing short of perfection. Such an insightful and productive debate between two clearly knowledgeable men.
What about that young man did you find “incredible”, and what did his rudimentary, and juvenile questioning make you think about? In my view, the existence of God, and the forces of good and evil are so abundantly clear and observable in everyday life that I have to wonder whether or not these “sceptics” are even cognitively present in their own bodies to somehow miss the blatant evidence in front of them. When I see debates like this I have a hard time not just shutting my brain off completely because it’s such a boring subject.
@@TgfkaTrichter That is the most brain dead comment I’ve read all day. We have free will. God doesn’t work your actions like a puppet with his hand up your ass. He will allow you to separate yourself from him if that is your choice. He will allow you to fall into sin if that is your decision. Evil is committed by those compromised by outside demonic influence, and who have willingly given up communion with God.
Usually in these debates, emotions are running high..people are screaming and cussing and whatever have you. But these guys are being very calm and respectful towards eachother. Good job!
How refreshing to see and hear a healthy debate/conversation between two sides that aren’t using hatred, bullying, threats of violence, intimidation, insults, and ridicule to get their points across…. Great job to both in the conversation.✌️😊👍❤️🤗🎤
The Christian is using lies. Making claims that has no evidence. That in and of itself is in fact insulting, hatred, bullying, intimidation, threats of violence, and ridicule.
Jesus Pbuh Wasn't Crucified Nor he died for our sins and He Never Told Us to Worship Him But Worship Only ALLAH (Only One GOD) بِسۡمِ ٱللَّهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيم Bismillah hir rahman nir raheem In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful. قُلۡ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ 112:1 Qul huwal laahu ahad Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, ٱللَّهُ ٱلصَّمَدُ 112:2 Allah hus-samad Allah, the Eternal Refuge. لَمۡ يَلِدۡ وَلَمۡ يُولَدۡ 112:3 Lam yalid wa lam yoolad He neither begets nor is born, وَلَمۡ يَكُن لَّهُۥ كُفُوًا أَحَدُۢ 112:4 Wa lam yakul-lahoo kufuwan ahad Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” ************ اللهم انا نعوذ بك من ان نشرك بك شيئا نعلمه ونستغفرك لما لا نعلمه O Allah, we seek refuge in You from associating partners with You while we know, and we ask Your forgiveness for what we do not know. ********* Dear people you have Warned ⚠️ in the Last Holy Book of Humanity (The Holy Book Quran) (5:72) And surely they disbelieved when they said: 'Christ, the son of Mary, is indeed God'; whereas Christ had said: 'Children of Israel! Serve Allah, Who is your Lord and my Lord.' Allah has forbidden Paradise to those who associate anything with Him in His divinity and their refuge shall be the Fire. (5:73) Those who said: 'Allah is one of the Three', certainly they disbelieved, for there is no god save the One God. And if they do not give up this claim, all who have disbelieved among them shall be subjected to painful chastisement. And for their saying, "We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God." In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. Certainly, they did not kill him. Rather, God raised him up to Himself. God is Mighty and Wise. -Quran 4:157-4:158 وَاِذۡ قَالَ اللّٰهُ يٰعِيۡسَى ابۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ ءَاَنۡتَ قُلۡتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُوۡنِىۡ وَاُمِّىَ اِلٰهَيۡنِ مِنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰهِؕ قَالَ سُبۡحٰنَكَ مَا يَكُوۡنُ لِىۡۤ اَنۡ اَقُوۡلَ مَا لَـيۡسَ لِىۡ بِحَقٍّؕ اِنۡ كُنۡتُ قُلۡتُهٗ فَقَدۡ عَلِمۡتَهٗؕ تَعۡلَمُ مَا فِىۡ نَفۡسِىۡ وَلَاۤ اَعۡلَمُ مَا فِىۡ نَفۡسِكَؕ اِنَّكَ اَنۡتَ عَلَّامُ الۡغُيُوۡبِ (5:116) And imagine when thereafter Allah will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to people: "Take me and my mother for gods beside Allah?" and he will answer: "Glory to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right to. Had I said so, You would surely have known it. You know all what is within my mind whereas I do not know what is within Yours. You, indeed You, know fully all that is beyond the reach of human perception. مَا قُلۡتُ لَهُمۡ اِلَّا مَاۤ اَمَرۡتَنِىۡ بِهٖۤ اَنِ اعۡبُدُوا اللّٰهَ رَبِّىۡ وَرَبَّكُمۡۚ وَكُنۡتُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ شَهِيۡدًا مَّا دُمۡتُ فِيۡهِمۡۚ فَلَمَّا تَوَفَّيۡتَنِىۡ كُنۡتَ اَنۡتَ الرَّقِيۡبَ عَلَيۡهِمۡؕ وَاَنۡتَ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ شَهِيۡدٌ (5:117) I said to them nothing except what You commanded me, that is: 'Serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' I watched over them as long as I remained among them; and when You did recall me, then You Yourself became the Watcher over them. Indeed, You are Witness over everything. اِنۡ تُعَذِّبۡهُمۡ فَاِنَّهُمۡ عِبَادُكَۚ وَاِنۡ تَغۡفِرۡ لَهُمۡ فَاِنَّكَ اَنۡتَ الۡعَزِيۡزُ الۡحَكِيۡمُ (5:118) If You chastise them, they are Your servants; and if You forgive them, You are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise."' قَالَ اللّٰهُ هٰذَا يَوۡمُ يَـنۡفَعُ الصّٰدِقِيۡنَ صِدۡقُهُمۡؕ لَهُمۡ جَنّٰتٌ تَجۡرِىۡ مِنۡ تَحۡتِهَا الۡاَنۡهٰرُ خٰلِدِيۡنَ فِيۡهَاۤ اَبَدًا ؕ رَضِىَ اللّٰهُ عَنۡهُمۡ وَرَضُوۡا عَنۡهُ ؕ ذٰ لِكَ الۡـفَوۡزُ الۡعَظِيۡمُ (5:119) Thereupon Allah will say: 'This day truthfulness shall profit the truthful. For them are Gardens beneath which rivers flow. There they will abide for ever. Allah is well- pleased with them, and they well-pleased with Allah. That indeed is the mighty triumph.' لِلّٰهِ مُلۡكُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالۡاَرۡضِ وَمَا فِيۡهِنَّ ؕ وَهُوَ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ قَدِيۡرٌ (5:120) To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is in them and He has full power over everything. Qur’aan 3:59-62] 3:59 إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُۥ مِن تُرَابٍۢ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ Verily, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allaah is like the example of Adam - He created him from dust and then said to him ‘Be’ and he was. 3:60 ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُن مِّنَ ٱلْمُمْتَرِينَ This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be from those who doubt. 3:61 فَمَنْ حَآجَّكَ فِيهِ مِنۢ بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلْعِلْمِ فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا۟ نَدْعُ أَبْنَآءَنَا وَأَبْنَآءَكُمْ وَنِسَآءَنَا وَنِسَآءَكُمْ وَأَنفُسَنَا وَأَنفُسَكُمْ ثُمَّ نَبْتَهِلْ فَنَجْعَل لَّعْنَتَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَى ٱلْكَـٰذِبِينَ So whoever disputes with you concerning him (i.e. Jesus) after all this knowledge (about him) has come to you, say: ‘Come, let us summon our children and your children, our women and your women and ourselves and yourselves and then invoke God to send His curses on those of us who is lying.’ 3:62 إِنَّ هَـٰذَا لَهُوَ ٱلْقَصَصُ ٱلْحَقُّ ۚ وَمَا مِنْ إِلَـٰهٍ إِلَّا ٱللَّهُ ۚ وَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَهُوَ ٱلْعَزِيزُ ٱلْحَكِيمُ Verily, this is the true story (about Jesus). And there is no God that has the right to be worshipped except Allaah. And indeed Allaah is the All-Mighty, All-Wise.” I Pray to GOD to Guide me and My Christian and Jewish People to The Right Path And Truth. ❤️ 💙 💜 Ameen *************** Holy Book Quran 2:47 يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اذْكُرُوا نِعْمَتِيَ الَّتِي أَنْعَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأَنِّي فَضَّلْتُكُمْ عَلَى الْعَالَمِينَ 2:47) O Children of Israel! Recall My favour which I bestowed upon you, exalting you above all nations. (2:48) Fear the Day when no one shall avail another, when no intercession will be accepted, when no one will be ransomed, and no criminal will receive any help. Holy book Quran 7:143 Prophet Musa (Moses) Pbuh When Moses came at the appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he asked, “My Lord! Reveal Yourself to me so I may see You.” Allah answered, “You cannot see Me! But look at the mountain. If it remains firm in its place, only then will you see Me.” When his Lord appeared to the mountain, He levelled it to dust and Moses collapsed unconscious. When he recovered, he cried, “Glory be to You! I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers.”
The young Man is a thinker, it's not just about hearing his own voice or just wanting to know he's right. He is searching for answers. He is taking in information. Kind of guy you want in your corner. He makes uni student's look smart and gives us hope for the future.
As an atheist, this is the best Christian apologetics I’ve ever heard! I’m actually impressed. Both sides were truly represented as well as possible. I’m happy to see a Christian actually presenting and understanding their faith the way I believe a true God would want. I don’t believe in hell, but how simply he defines hell almost makes me. I’m glad I watched this.
He is 100% lying when saying that there is evidence against the universe being the un caused first cause. The universe itself can always be expanding and contracting. Heat isn’t disappearing in the universe. It is simply finite while the universe is currently expanding. “Space, time and matter had a beginning”. Yes….for THIS iteration of the universe. Each possible iteration has new time, space, and matter. This man is full of shit. There isn’t a shred of evidence that supports the existence of any god, and CERTAINLY not the Canaanite war god Yahweh, that eventually morphed into the nonsensical god of Christians.
Humans only assume... we know nothing... so one could say god excist and doesnt excist at the same time if you follow our principles. But the way we view GOD is a holy deity personafied, the true father of jesus christ which most likely is another man made mythos. I dont believe in that kind of GOD, but as this guy answering the atheist said, that he thought of whats out there in space is what he thought is god that i can agree AND disagree with. There are forces we just dont understand and never will until we die, and even then we might not know it. There are only theories. You have on this earth as the guy stated "free will"... so you do with that what you want. My thesis is that we all are just like any other living organism on this earth, fragile and weak, but evolved to a point of what we concieve as HIGHLY intelligent. And just the fact that we may regard ourselves as highly intelligent prooves how uneducated and clueless we really are to the real forces of space/universe and its mysteries. What made it all is truly more complex than any lifeform will ever be.
The unavoidable fatal flaw of these religious apologetics or any failed argument in general is that they rely on at least one foundational assertion being true despite a lack of sufficient evidence or proof of that claim. How it’s a problem is that the unproven claim isn’t even at issue, and instead is just automatically accepted and is a springboard for what the conversation at hand is based on, which itself becomes fruit of the poisonous tree. As an example, when the speaker talked about the story discussing whether or not the mother who rejected the gospel is in hell or not. The answer that he discussed sounded nice, but he glossed over demonstrating that hell even existed. Absent of that, any discussion surrounding hell is irrelevant and invalid.
I'm glad you watched it, too. I was an atheist myself. If I couldn't "see" proof with my own senses, I didn't believe it but my quest for truth eventually brought me to a saving faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. I don't regret a single moment since that day. My hope, even though I don't know you, is that you too will be blessed with that same eternal hope. John 3:16
This is an excellent discussion. I'd never heard of it being referred as the "uncaused first cause" nor ever questioned why we should worship that. The answers were amazing and reaffirming. This is the sort of intelligent discussion that earns my subscription to a channel :)
I didn’t realize there were healthy debates like this. I’ve seen so much hate in these it was awesome to see two intelligent people calmly discuss their sides. Wow. Quite moving.
This young man will absolutely find the truth because he approaches life humbly with a willingness to listen and ask and hear. What a lovely young man. God will reveal Himself to that young man.
Why do people like yourself always speaking for a god they only have belief in? You've never seen god, this type of talk actually reflects the mental absurdness of religion,
The truth is God is a myth, we've already got that figured out. You can figure that out alone just looking at the fact that the Bible is wrong and false in so many important areas
a very often seen superficial comment. Not fantastic, adds nothing to the topic. Sorry, don't wanna be rude, it1s just annoying to say the least.I wanna read topic related comments, instead I read your comment over and over, almost word by word. I just wanna kill myself. Please do not take it personally... I do not know you, nut I would be interested why did you feel you need to copy maybe rephrase a little the 20 thousand comment before you? Just why? What's the resoning behind it? I can explain my comment, can you yours?
Finally a debate where both parties are respectful enough to speak and be heard. Without yelling over each other. Whether they agree or disagree. Also for the young man to agree with Frank’s reasoning bc it “made sense”.
I really REALLY admire this respectful debate. This is exactly how we build and maintain a mutual respect to agree to disagree. It’s not about flipping out and getting combative or hitting below the belt. This isn’t common at all and I really enjoyed this back n forth. We’d have so many more constructive discussions and debates if we saw this more.
That was an excellent conversation. I am astonished and impressed with the knowledge and eloquence of the man who defended God. I wish I had such knowledge and such freedom in expressing myself.
The best debate between a theist and an atheist you have seen so far? Go watch some Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris or Daniel Dennett. They have had very high standing conversations, debates, speeches and discussions from like 2007 until 2023. It will open your eyes. Many people here could agree. :)
@@bengeurden1272Strongly disagree. Just about every one of the atheists you listed rely almost entirely on rhetoric as opposed to posing an intellectual argument or engaging the arguments. Most of the better atheists are obscure.
I didn’t search for this video but I’m glad I watched it all the way through. I have a whole new understanding about God and what a respectfully interaction between these two men🙏🏽
Is 100% lying when saying that there is evidence against the universe being the un caused first cause. The universe itself can always be expanding and contracting. Heat isn’t disappearing in the universe. It is simply finite while the universe is currently expanding. “Space, time and matter had a beginning”. Yes….for THIS iteration of the universe. Each possible iteration has new time, space, and matter. This man is full of shit. There isn’t a shred of evidence that supports the existence of any god, and CERTAINLY not the Canaanite war god Yahweh, that eventually morphed into the nonsensical god of Christians.
MUCH respect to that young dude, who was asking very intelligent and legit questions as opposed to defaulting to ‘Well if God is so great, why do bad things happen?’ This was a very insightful conversation
