"We talked about a year ago, you hung up on me and called me a buffoon..." Yep, sounds like something Matt would say. Also a very accurate description.
7 years later, can still confirm this is true. The reason being that their moral foundation isn't based on an arbitrary afterlife treat, or fear of eternal torment, it's based on empathy and the understanding of how actions affect society and ourselves.
Because they actually have to give their morals some thought, rather than just adopting whatever they are told. Same with other aspects of their worldview, btw.
pesston wuz --- Until recently voices were regarded as a symptom of a mental illness and not talked about because of fear of stigma. Hearing voices are still considered by psychiatry as an auditory hallucination and as a symptom of conditions such as schizophrenic disorders, manic depression and psychosis
@@zekezzekekan2144 Where the guy calls from (or _says_ he calls from) matters little in light of his accent, which clearly isn't English. Not is the turn of phrase he uses.
John: "Do you remember me, Matt?" Matt: "No, sorry." John: "...you hung up on me and called me a buffoon..." Martin: "Awww" Matt: "There may be some possibility here that you suffer a similar fate today..." LMFAO that sets the stage perfectly.
Yeah, you shouldn't get your medical/psychological/life's facts from a fictional TV series. Great part of the religious experience is to feel God's presence. No psychologist would say religious people are psychotic, it's a lot more nuanced than that.
+Natanael Well please allow me to be the first you've heard make the metal illness argument. He wasn't claiming that all the religious are mentally ill, but only those who, audibly, actually hear a god/gods voice/voices. He would be correct in assuming that these auditory hallucinations would be indicative of, possibly, psychosis but more likely, scitzophrenia.
Alex Barranco So that’s why atheists spend so much time and effort disproving someone who they believe doesn’t exist. It has nothing to do with being genuine or sincere and wanting to rescue an errant neighbor. No, it’s for the purpose of gathering material to laugh at and mock. Apparently you’re very shallow, self centered and cringeworthy. 😬
Stephen Tumlin So what are you saying then? If it’s not possible to disprove God, is it possible that he does exist? And if it’s possible that he does exist, perhaps you’re the one to be mocked.
Stephen Tumlin You said, “can we prove something doesn’t exist? No, we can’t “. I’m pretty sure It can proven the earth doesn’t have six moons. You say you’re open to reason and demonstration but when we consider for example: - The complex information in DNA, knowing this level of information can only be sourced through intelligence. - irreducible complexities and symbiotic relationships throughout nature. - the unfathomable fine tuning of the universe - the origin of time, space & matter. - the simple “fact” that life begets life. Life does not appear from non life or dead matter. Truthfully it is not reasonable to assume that these are the result of one impossible fluke but rather they “demonstrate” a deliberate purposeful design. And yet you still end your post with the statement that there is no God. Where is your evidence or is this just your reasonable opinion?
US prison population is supposedly 0.07% atheist. I'm also looking at a poll saying atheists account for roughly 25% of British population, yet are only 1% of the British prison population. It's astounding how one can go from 1% to 80%.
And stating the obvious, even if somehow 85% of the prison population was atheist, then it wouldn't have proven that all atheists are immortal. Of course Sunderboot has proven himself immoral and moronic.
That makes much more sense. Education and economic security often go hand in hand with atheism, and as prison populations are often made up of people who are poor and likely less educated logic dictates prison populations would be largely comprised of religious folk unless the majority of the society is atheist. (as a side note, I think it's important to point out that poor people making up a majority in the prison system is due to societal bias and not because poor or uneducated people are more prone to commit crimes)
Demagoguez28 No. They are people who blame the Jews for everything. I have met these people. If someone hates blacks or whites it wouldn't be a prank call. Why is anti-Semitism so hard to believe? The anti-Jews are around and they are dangerous.
John Morris I'm an atheist but my heritage is Jewish. My entire life, 60+ years, I never personally encountered anti-Semitism. But it sure is alive and well on youtube.
@@abc456f It's mostly Islamists who openly hate Jews these days Most people who oppose globalism have beef with Zionists, which some then conflate with Jews in general. I'm from Germany and I have seen in person hundreds of people march down the streets yelling "Death to the Jews" back when the last big conflict between Palestine and Israel happend. It wasn't nazis, they were all arabs, and leftist antifa counter-protesters were nowhere to be found 🤔
RoganJericho Atheism allows clear mindedness for the construction of a moral system Religion promotes ignorance that allows for the creation of Immoral systems.
Damian Freeman. Are not morals based on law ? Ie something you are expected to honor and obey? Seems God'10 commandments are something to be obeyed. It is written down here very well so there is no relative thinking here at all.So how can you say tag someone who follows the true God is immoral?
" Are not morals based on law " No, it's the other way around. Laws are based on morals. And even then, not all laws. "Seems God'10 commandments are something to be obeyed." Only if you accept it as an authority to prescribe laws with no basis. The only of the commandments which actually hold any sway to normal people - the ones about not murdering or stealing, specifically - predate the Bible and are very basic morals that can easily be explained because of how society works. "So how can you say tag someone who follows the true God is immoral?" First off; "the true god" is meaningless, anyone will call their god/gods true and all others false. Second: Yes. Because if they subscribe to the God of the Bible, they are required to either willingly accept as good, or otherwise invent excuses as to why it is not bad, for their god to endorse or actively perform immoral actions within their holy text. There is more to the God of Abraham's "laws" than just the 10 Commandments (oh, just to let you remember: you brought them up, and those are Old Testament. There is no "OT doesn't count" allowed from you now). The God of Abraham prohibits the eating of Pork, of Shellfish on certain occasions, commands death for various groups including the gay and the heretics, demands blood sacrifices, and within the stories is quite willing to commit mass-murder.
Damien Freeman I can agree with you to a certain point about laws being the result of morals. In the beginning God did give man a conscience, or an innate sense of right and wrong. ( moral law) This worked daily well enough but too many people either chose to ignore it or didn't know exactly what was sin or not. So God found it necessary to put things in writing, did so personally , and gave it to Moses and all mankind. With the Ten Commandments God could make clear just what sin is and what needed to be obeyed. True things like civil law , dietary, and ceremonial laws came in their times and we're expected to be obeyed and they all have their proper places. When Christ fulfilled his time on the cross, all laws were fulfilled as well and we were released from the condemning effects of the law. That is one reason why dietary and some ceremonial laws ( like animal sacrifice) are no longer observed. Civil law( governing of nations) were to remain so as to keep law and order, and the Ten Commandments were kept so as to remind us about sin but as said earlier will not condem those who follow Christ. Thus also a true Christian can find joy in obeying the law
@@hillbilly2065 "I bent you don't"? Lol! Oh Billy, you really _are_ a catastrophic fuck-wit, aren't you? Nobody here gives a thought to being "turtured" forever in hell, capitalised or otherwise, because hell doesn't exist. Do the grownups know you're making a fool of yourself on the internet?
Rob Ashton don’t mind him. It hasn’t sunk into his head yet that one can’t be threatened with things they don’t believe in. My unicorn is going to impale you if you don’t repent! Ummm. Okay bring on thy mighty steed. I’m going to watch some Netflix and take a nap while I wait.
As an English man, I’d like to apologise for this person. He in no way represents the UK or the UK prison system. The other day, I told a shop assistant they had give me too much change. I did this not for eternal reward, morally it was the right thing to do. It had nothing to do with her being cute, or any fear of an invisible cloud hippy
Atheists need pycholgical HELP because they are going to HELL chose to do so who in tere right mind would want to be turtured forever in HELL REPENT!!!!!!!
@@hillbilly2065 I think your god needs psychological help if he's so petty he'll have someone subjected to eternal torment just because they didn't believe he existed
As an agnostic guy living in a very Christian community with no special hate against christians who still refuse to believe I'm not literally a witch, I relate to this hardcore 💯
"when you talk to God, it's called prayer. When God talks to you it's called schizofrenia" hahahahahahaahah best quote ever!!!! i cant get enough of this
Yeah it is BS. Sooooo many people in the UK are christened after Birth and go down on paper as a Christian in Britain on the stat sheet. I was christened, every single one of my family members were christened before and after me, it was just the done thing when I was young...still is today. I am therefore part of a statistic which grossly misrepresents the amount of Christians in the UK today. I'm not sure on how the Prisons work with Religion but I've never heard anything on them asking every inmate of their religion and keeping statistics on those numbers. I'd guess it is a completely made up statistic that "John Smith" has either made up himself or has found somewhere on the internet.
I actually got so caught up in my little rant that I forgot to reply to the part of your comments I found most important. You're comment on how being a believer doesn't give you permission to be disrespectful, discriminatory, and sinful was great. People like you serve as a reminder that the crazy parts of religion are just that...crazy. As a guy who watches videos where religion is antagonized as a form of catharsis (first time using the word..dollar says I used it wrong), it helps me.
This is actually one of the funniest clips I've seen. "When you talk to god it's prayer, when god talks to you, it's schizophrenia." lol. I've always loved that line.
+Paul Mayta hey do yourself a favor dont call people idiots when you cant spell or use words in their proper context. also instead of making up some unfounded correlation between lol the occult and porno....lol. rather than"(see how i spelled it "then")saying you know all try thinking.
+TheRev1269 ...It's not whether atheists are moral or immoral. It's about their inability to think logically. atheistsareidiots.blogspot.com/2013/03/logical-fallacies-atheists-make.html citizenfitz09.blogspot.com/2012/11/some-atheistic-logical-fallacies.html ...
He sounds Swedish to me. I'm Swedish. And if he's from over here, I sincerely apologize for his existence. I didn't create him, but I'd like to un-create him if I could.
I love Sunderb00t... He's one of the funniest guys on the internet. Also... I see comments saying "I'm ashamed to be British because of this guy!" - he has an American accent. He might be calling from London (never established), but he's obviously not British. No need for national shame.
See this is hilarious how theists seem to assume that since atheists don't believe in objective morality that we don't understand morality. First of all a christian doesn't know that he'll be judged on Judgment Day he just believes he will, furthermore it's a statement for how moral atheists are if to us there is no judgment from a divine being that we DON'T go around murdering and killing becaues there's no divine punishment.We don't perform evil acts because it's better to do good.End of story
Americans proudly talk about separation of church and state, yet politicians talk about faith to keep voters onside, while religious organisations wield political power in inverse proportion to the amount of tax they pay. Any aspiring politician who announces that they’re an atheist has no chance. In the UK, we don’t have separation of church and state, but politicians keep religion out of their public pronouncements (OK, Blair’s religious stuff became public knowledge but that was unusual). I have a feeling - can’t prove it - that here politicians are more likely to lose votes with talk about God.
Mark 16:16 "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." A believer can be 100% certain that he will not go to hell. Therefore, this person does not need to fear hell.
Our moral values most likely are the result of evolution. If they come from God, then how does God communicate them to us? I am unable to read someone else's thoughts, and vice versa. Yet we all live in the same physical world. God does not even reside in our physical world. So, I do not see how God can communicate anything to us.
My brain is currently "off" at the moment. I've noted the link and will probably check it out tomorrow. That said, thank you for the link. I'm sure it will help me out.
A little hole I've found in the "where do atheists get their morality" argument. According to Genesis, original sin was eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which gave us knowledge of good and evil. If we now have an innate knowledge of good and evil, we must have an innate sense of morality, for they are one and the same. We had this innate sense long before God gave us rules, and the only thing I can think it to be would be empathy. Of course, that's just making the Christian position internally consistent.
***** Hey! I read fiction all the time. I prefer my stories to be either internally consistent, or too epic for me to care... put Issac Asimov's Foundation with Lord of the Rings in the first catagory, and Doctor Who along with Harry Potter in the second. The Bible is neither, Unfortunately.
MPythonGirl -- Agree 100 -- LOVE the Foundation books, BTW (Asimov's originals, not the "forgeries"). LOTR never really did it for me, I got more out of Cussler and Coonts, as well as JC Pollock (all related some way to the military).
***** I liked the Tolkien movies, and rather enjoy reading the appendices... I grit my teeth through the Hobbit, and find that I rather like having the story in my head. Reading Tolkien is like drinking a Hangover Remedy that works, awesome in retrospect, glad I read it, but damn if it wasn't terrible at the time. This is why it requires so much internal consistency, so it can stay mapped in my head, and I never have to read it again. Asimov on the other hand... my Junior high from years ago had a book of his *scientific essays*. You'd think these would be boring... but they were awesome. One discussed what a planet with two suns would actually be like (from the surface). So freaking good... Asimov would be in both catagories if it was possible to do so.
"Religion means orienting one’s existence around faith, God, and a life of service - and correspondingly downgrading or condemning four key elements: reason, nature, the self, and man." -Leonard Peikoff-1986
This is a key point to any claim of moral superiority posited by a theist. They are either moral despite what their scriptures tell them, or they are ignoring those same scriptures. In a recent study of christians in the UK, "when asked where they seek most guidance in questions of right and wrong, only one in ten (10%) said it was from religious teachings or beliefs, with over half (54%) preferring to draw on their own inner moral sense."
There is nothing more sad than the fact that Matt can only say "I think" this is a prank call. That this level of stupidity might well be from a serious caller, shows how low the standards are for defending their faith.
Navas-Acien also noted that this report focuses on public drinking water, but millions are drinking water from private sources. "We don’t really have a good system in place to protect people drinking water from private wells," she said. "This is a serious issue in the United States, as there are millions of people in the country drinking water from private wells.” The permitted level of radium in tap water, however, still remains outdated, according to the group. Navas-Acien echoed that sentiment. “It’s surprising to see that the standard for radium has not been updated since 1976,” she said. “We have a much larger body of scientific evidence that has been developed since then that should have been able to inform new updates [for the] maximum contaminant level for radium.”
New Scientist is a weekly non-peer-reviewed English-language international science magazine,[2] founded in 1956 and since 1996 also runs a website, covering recent developments in science and technology for a general audience. The magazine covers current developments, news, and commentary from the scientific community. It also prints speculative articles, ranging from the technical to the philosophical.
Religion is just faith that some people believe in just to get them through difficult times but in reality it is your own strength that gets you through
I don't see how that's contradictory since that is pretty true. Cells multiply from existing cells. Abiogenesis concerns more of origins of the first self-replicating cells rather than reproduction after it was initially formed. Once again, I'm not versed in the subject. There are some people on youtube that mention what could have possibly taken place (of course, assuming abiogenesis is true). If you want to hear their perspective, don't be afraid to ask.
I used to think that, believers are not honest in their argument with atheists only in the epidemical middle east. But it turned out that they are everywhere.
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church." - Thomas Paine
I'm sorry in advance for bombarding you with messages. You just spring up interesting conversations though. So I would also like to thank you for keeping this respectful. Theories never stop being theories because scientists acknowledge that it can change with new evidence. Still, there is evidence to back up current theories. Nobody is 100% sure, but we are gradually learning more with each new discovery.
I think I sort of said what I think about it in another comment I made to you...so I'll try to save some comment space on that. I'm sorry for taking your comments out of context. Considering lines of texts on RU-vid don't give to much in the way of context, I tend to get confused when I think too much into things and try to think on specifics. It's my fault.
Well, not all stats are reliable, true, but conversely that doesn't mean _NONE_ are trustworthy either. If they are taken by a reliable source such as PEW Research, WHO, UNICEF, or Stats Can they can generally be trusted to be fairly reliable, because their methodology is known to be trustworthy (which doesn't mean they can't get skewed results by happenstance once in a while or make mistakes; it just means that unless an issue is found with the methodology of a specific poll you can fairly safely assume that their results are more likely to be accurate than not).
James 2:18-20 "But someone will say, 'You have faith, and I have works.' Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?" If a Christian does not want to be moraly good, then he has a dead faith-if even a faith at all.
