Atlas 7B Metal Shaper Review Atlas or Delta Compairisons! 

Glad it was a help.

+Douglas Thompson Thanks, I know how to do it, but I have yet to cut a key-way with one of these machines.

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+Tony Tonyo Thanks, Working on the next one right now!

+jster1963 I hear ya! I'm slowing getting what I want, I also have a handful off machines I'm on the look out for and a few I don't plan on getting for at least 2-3 more years when I have a more accessible shop to move stuff in and out of!

+Skip Tracer Seems like many of these machines didn't get much use in the past 20-30 years. I got this one out of an estate and I'm not sure it got much use there. Damn Gremlins!!!

+Matematiks Thanks. They are neat little machines.

+Precision Machine Shed Arrived from 3000 km :) www.imagebam.com/image/60685e484551266

Cool glad you liked the video.

The model you have is actually a model #7 The model 7B are the ones with the foot

+ShawnColorado I knew it was something like that just had a brain lapse. I'll get another shaper some day, just looking for the right one! Thanks!

I'm not sure. The feed machanisms on these shapers are finicky. I had a Delta shaper that I could never get working correctly. You may end up buying some used parts to get the feed ratchet working properly.

Check the tension on the cross feed screwnut on the left side of the table apron. It likes a specific amount of tension. At least mine does. I replaced the old original with a nylok.Might also be a sheared pin in the ratchet feed assembly.

Bill Oxley is right. There has to be a certain amount of tension or drag on the crossfeed screw for the ratchet to work, which is applied by tightening the nuts on the left end of the screw. Totally non-intuitive, but it works. I gleaned that information from Metal-Shapers-and-Planers@groups.io and it took care of the problem.

I can't recall.

@@precisionmachineshed No problem, I figured it out. Thanks for the reply. :)

+Turning Point I've seen those SB machines with the oil pump systems and always thought they looked to be a more superior design as far as lubrication goes. I'll have to keep any eye out for another machine, and when I get a shop, I'll most likely pick up a larger one. I've been lucky with the two that I have owned that they both came with most of the original equipment including the vise. With this machine, they were trying to sell the vise separately, but I talked them into selling it together, which is how it should have been. Thanks for the great info, and thanks for watching and commenting!

+spitfire1821 In my opinion the SB constant pumped lube oil system is a far better and much more superior design. The funny part is just how simple and low tech the parts are. It would have cost very little to add that to any of the small crank shapers that were being sold at the time. All it is is a aluminum block with a reamed hole, an aluminum piston with rubber O rings to both seal the bore and prevent metal to metal contact. Then there's a rod that comes down off the bull wheel that drives the piston up and down as the bull wheel rotates. The cylinder block has a check valve so the oil gets sucked in. the piston changes directions and the oil that's now in the cylinder gets pushed up the oil lines. It should be able to be built and added to any shaper with a bit of thought and maybe a few Bijur? one shot oil system line restrictors. Add a few strategically placed holes, then the oil lines and it's done. I think the whole design for the pump, piston, and operating rod is in one of the SB shaper books or the manual. Once I got my SB shaper and understood how it gets lubed I wouldn't hesitate to add it to any crank shaper that didn't have one. I bought an Atlas horizontal mill that had a few parts missing. Like I said, money pit.:-( But the other thing to remember about these small machines is they were the the cheap machine tools that were available before the cheap offshore machines were have today were around. Despite what some may think, and the prices there now trying to get for these machines. They just weren't made that well in comparison to any of the smaller industrial machines. On some the dovetails and slides were just milled. Zero surface grinding at all. So even with just a surface grinder and no knowledge of hand scraping or fitting, you can still make massive improvements in both the accuracy of the machine, and in turn the accuracy of your parts and the surface finish you can get. IF YOUR CAREFUL !!!!! But those tightly fitted slides now require something like that pumped lube system if you want the machine to live. And you still have to understand and maintain good machine alignments while surface grinding them. Apology's for the length of this.

Yeah, it's been gone a while now. Ive had a couple and they were only used a couple times before I sold them. If you have the space great, but I didn't.

Precision Machine Shed, I agree. But I still want one and the atlas mill

One of those little mills would be fun.

I actually just picked up a German Klopp 425. I have yet to see an Elliot in person.

@@precisionmachineshedHi, plenty of info online with pics. I own an Elliot 10m. It is a 10 inch stroke machine that is built for use in a light engineering workshop. Very accurate with heavy duty slides. Lovely little machine to use. As a model engineer Im not too fond of these lightweight bench top milling machines and have done well using a heavy duty vertical slide on my Colchester Chipmaster lathe for milling with everything else done on the Elliot.

+Chris Anderson Somewhere between 350-500. Not that they ever came with much tooling, but this only had the one tool holder. They do make a few different ones such as a boring bar holder for keyways and such.

Not very many were re-badged other than Craftsman and Dunlap stuff which were built by other companies. Most older US machines were their own companies.

Yes, quite some time ago.

It was about 3-400 lbs or so.

+Simon P Thanks, I figured it out, pretty nifty design how it will compress grease in there when you tighten the cap.

+Steven Makes sense.