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Atlus Persona Ports Keep Getting Worse 

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0:00 Intro
0:27 Persona 4 Port
1:19 Persona 5 Port
3:51 Persona 3 Port (The big one)
7:47 Worrying Trend
10:23 Outro
Footage From: Bubbletea, Nam's Compendium, RandomPlox, JohneAwesome
The persona games from Atlus are some of my favorite games ever made. If it wasn't for Persona 4, I probably wouldn't be where I am today. That is exactly why this video was a difficult one to make. There was a lot of deliberation on whether or not an entire persona port mini retrospective was a video I would want to make, with how disappointed I was with the new releases. Ultimately I believe I have some things to say about the persona steam and modern console ports that this video is warranted. I play on pc and as I was making my way through, replaying each new school persona game, I was getting more and more disappointed. Persona 4 Golden on pc was fantastically done, Persona 5 Royal was less so, and Persona 3 Portable was something that hit me to my very core. Atlus Persona ports keep getting worse over time and I hope this isn't a trend we keep seeing. The issues should have been obvious with the shin megami tensei Nocturne HD port, but I was naïve. This is truly something that needs all of our attention.

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@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
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@DragonKingX78
@DragonKingX78 Год назад
Yeah, but that is still no reason not to have it in the US.
@Lelouchxzero1
@Lelouchxzero1 Год назад
Neither FES or portable would work. They were taking the direct game with no addiotnal modifications, that would mean new players experiencing auto teammates in FES..and you showed us what the portable port is like.
@mikhailsharon4331
@mikhailsharon4331 Год назад
You're right. This is lazy. They could have made it into something really great but instead settle with something basic.
@statesminds
@statesminds Год назад
If they actually put in effort and combined Portable content plus more into FES as a base it’d be incredible. I’d even pay full AAA for it. Imagine male protag with male party social links, decline romance, female MC in FES with running around, cutscenes, etc. female mc the answer, Margaret’s door but in FES style. But noooo. And at the very minimum they could have added cutscenes to portable and just attached the answer. I’d rather them be available vs not but it’s dumb
@raivin7172
@raivin7172 Год назад
Unfortunately, we're not living in timeline where Atlus makes actual effort to do something
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Sadly, despite how amazing that would be, they just wanted the lowest possible effort for the highest profit. It loks like it bit them in the end though
@BaofuTheCanonicalPersonaHater
seriously! i'm glad i played FES as my first P3 experience, the cutscenes were a factor in why i liked it. they're sorta stylised in a way that looks appealingly different to today's anime and made the important moments hit
@MegaOverclocked
@MegaOverclocked Год назад
I still wanna give Atlus the benefit of the doubt that they're making a Persona 3 remake so it wouldn't make sense to put alot of effort in enhancing a port when the definitive edition is slated down the line.
@ZX-Gear
@ZX-Gear Год назад
I prefer Fes over P3P. But yeah. I wished Atlus brought the best of both worlds.
@Lbstee123
@Lbstee123 Год назад
It's crazy that a ps2 game, sounds, looks and encapsulates the totality of a persona/smt game better than a 2023 port with litterally thousands of times more powerful hardware.
@Lbstee123
@Lbstee123 Год назад
I know you got a code but you can return it to steam still. It would prove a point to ATLUS that even a free copy wasn't worth your time and didn't meet expectations as a fan or as a consumer.
@vullord666
@vullord666 Год назад
This is why you don’t port 1:1 a version of the game built for a weaker system than the PS2 to hardware that’s two decades newer than the ps2.
@nesoukkefka1741
@nesoukkefka1741 Год назад
It's even more crazy that fans have modded said PS2 games to give it 4k textures, 60FPS and quality of life improvment (being able to control party member directly for instance) for free, and THIS is what Atlus can do.
@KociolxD
@KociolxD Год назад
Probably because P3 Portable is NOT PS2 PORT. It was separate version for PSP, drastically changed. Since PSP is more modern platform it was probably easier to port it from that. That's all. Ofc im not defending them, but im right. I played both PS2 Persona 3 FES and Persona 3 Portable and latter was always inferior in terms of framerate, gameplay, music quality etc. PSP was more PS1 than PS2, and people seems to forget it.
@TheBlackSeraph
@TheBlackSeraph Год назад
@@KociolxD I suspect it would have been harder to port data from P3P than either P3 or P3FES, unless the source code was lost. Remember that UMD uses custom encoding hardware whereas the PS2 uses conventional DVD format. You'd also have the same engine from SMT3HD. If anything, the use of P3P was probably a way of avoiding paying Lotus Juice to record another OST.
@zudahkai94
@zudahkai94 Год назад
When your better off modding persona 3(fes or portable) than the actual pc port. Come on Atlas.
@MacVanish
@MacVanish Год назад
I imagine the top P3P remaster mods are going to be audio & visual mods. Nocturne HD has a similiar audio mod that fixes the compressed music
@doublechindoge7
@doublechindoge7 Год назад
^ Very True Just thought I'd add my 2 cents for anyone out there who wasn't sure about going through the trouble of emulating it, I highly reccomend you do. I was on the fence about it, and nearly gave up on it when inevitably setting it up became a headache and I got stuck - but eventually I figured it out and good God is it the definitive way to Play Persona 3 now. With Community Mods, you get to play P3FES in 2K quality, in widescreen without needing to stretch the screen, with Ability icons added, community balance patches, Added Dialogue Portraits from Portable, a couple translation fixes, Party Control, and better Camera Controls - not to mention just the fact playing on an emulator gives Save States and the option to speed the game up at tedious moments. I cannot reccomend enough you go through the trouble to set up the emulated version rather than getting this disappointing P3P port.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Yeah it's genuinely insane when you think about it being a "remaster"
@Nocturne989
@Nocturne989 Год назад
My only thing to say going into that is be aware that Knockdowns in FES with party control breaks game balance completly, allowing you to stunlock any enemy with a weakness infinitely. If we're gonna talk about InO killing balance if you use it, we should acknowledge that playing P3 this way is definitely not a balanced experience either.
@Zeloidz
@Zeloidz Год назад
120 fps goes crazy tho
@TheNorilla
@TheNorilla Год назад
The reason Raidou got removed was due to his outfit looking similar to a Japanese Imperialist, and could be considered offensive over there; he was also not in the Korean (and Chinese) versions of Nocturne. Don't know why it can't be added back in, but the files for the Raidou outfit and music are still in the game's files, so it'll probably be easy to mod back in.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Oh interesting. Sad they didn't add it for the international though yeah
@ZSleepingDragonZ
@ZSleepingDragonZ Год назад
Atlus has no problem putting in the Raidou DLC costumes in Soul Hackers 2. Why not keep it in P5R for other regions except China/Korea?
@XWingToast
@XWingToast Год назад
My guess is because Sega R&D ported it instead of Atlus
@nicksjacku9750
@nicksjacku9750 Год назад
Doesn't matter if you can mod it in, it should have not been censored in the first place just because of another country. I should not go out of my way to mod a skin when it shouldn't have been taken out due to bullshit.
@ultimis4727
@ultimis4727 Год назад
@@ZSleepingDragonZ If I had to guess its because the dlc is on disc for the P5R port. Its one thing to release a raidou dlc for soul hackers two, and just not release it in certain regions. Its another thing two release two separate versions of Royal. One without Raidou for Korea and one with him for the rest of the world. Its the same reason why games like the WW2 CoDs don't have swastikas anymore. Instead of making a separate version of the game without them for places like Germany. Activision saves time and money by not including that content at all.
@theotherccount4481
@theotherccount4481 Год назад
Honestly we gotta thank these companies for starting the next great pirate age
@ShapeshiftingPotato
@ShapeshiftingPotato Год назад
We're all Captin Kidd now
@sadie9728
@sadie9728 Год назад
Aye matey
@phillemon7664
@phillemon7664 Год назад
"Wahaha.. Wahahahaha! My ports/remasters? If you want it, you can have it! Find it! I left every Atlus port/remaster there!" - Atlus
@arcueid3352
@arcueid3352 Год назад
Not with them Denuvo though, EMPRESS is clearly struggling with MH Rise Denuvo, piracy in general is not looking to good cause Denuvo is going to get more and more harder to crack, and more and more cheaper to implement, even handheld games for the Switch will get Denuvo in the future
@svolozhanin7627
@svolozhanin7627 Год назад
PERSONA 3 IS REAL!
@helloblocks.4310
@helloblocks.4310 Год назад
It's like they fucked something up so bad they gave up and left it like that hoping the community will fix all themselves.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
It does give off "Screw it, it's good enough" vibes lol
@braydenleaderofthetirkins1143
They took out that costume from P5 because of the hatred between Japan & South Korea. If you don’t know, Japan was HORRIBLE during WWII towards other Asian countries. From the Rape of Nanjing in China (Where they literally had target practice with infants & stabbed pregnant women) to constant oppression over the Koran people, even forcing them to eat other people & covering it as whale meat. This is also why an episode of Pokémon was banned in Korea that featured a samurai warrior since, again, trauma & disdain for Japan & its culture. It was so bad, in fact, that China has a Nazi memorialized for saving the Chinese people from as many Japanese soldiers as they could. That’s when you know they f**ked up.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Ah makes sense actually
@DominatorElite4
@DominatorElite4 Год назад
Also Japan did terrible experiments to Korean people which was an inspiration for a cod zombies map
@vwoeng7477
@vwoeng7477 Год назад
That Nazi was John Rabe. He was the Oskar Schindler of China. He was a businessman and allegedly believed in Nazism 100%. The man was given a chance to flee when Japanese army was closing in but he stayed anyways because he knew the atrocity of Japanese Imperial armies were just That Bad and his employees and the Chinese people he knew for 30 years would die if he left. He started sheltering Chinese citizens and attempted to save Chinese soldiers by using his identity as a Nazi party leader but there were times when the Japanese soldiers broke in to rape the women when he was elsewhere. The Chinese soldiers he sheltered were forcefully dragged out and he was lied to that they would be spared. In the end of the war, he fell into poverty due to his status as a Nazi but Nanjing people heard of his plight and donated money and food as thanks for what he did in the war.
@motxmod
@motxmod Год назад
Same thing with Nocturne HD
@bringapow_toys2285
@bringapow_toys2285 Год назад
@@motxmod what happened in nocturne
@advmx3
@advmx3 Год назад
Ok, as a Developer, lemme say you this: Losing an Engine doesn't mean you lose the assets. Havnig a bad code doesn't mean you can hire competent people to re-write it in a modern way. Kingdom Hears 1 didn't had the source code anymore for the SAME REASON as P3Fes, the engine doesn't exist anymore. Still they had the assets, they got it, re-modeled it and re-made the entire game from scratch. To me, the 3k people playing P3P only wants to play as FemC since she is happier than MC. And I know Atlus thought that would be easier than remaking P3Fes to the standards of P4 Golden, which was the bare minimum this game deserved seeing it's the sole foundation that made P4 so good to begin with. So yeah, they could if they wanted, and I hate when gamers try to defend this absurd situation just because a few of them got what they wanted: FemC in HD. To me, that's the sole reason anyone would like P3P, even with the battles enhancements, with a mod you can essentially negate the flaws of P3Fes. That's it, really. Even some of the things they did, such as making fusion abilities Items in the game. That's just dumb to me in Portable. Either way, I think if Atlus wanted, they could LITERALLY ported and enhanced FES, AND added a Third Campaign with FemC with the P3P style since they celarly don't want to remake the models for her social links. Either way, yeah, I'm annoyed at it, and frankly, to anyone thinking a P3 Remake will happen, to me that's Coping. I'm a fan, a BIG fan of P3, to me, it's the best out of the three games. BUT, I'm not delusional. Atlus won't make a Remake, Unless P3P Sells outstandingly well, which I doubt. Again, a LOT of people will be turned off with the Visual Novel style that doesn't fit with the dialogs, and won't get the game. After what Capcom did with Resident Evil 3 Remake, I won't expect the best of any game OR remake. Especially from ATLUS. As a Side Note: FANS, THAT WERE MAKING THE HD VERSION OF P3P AND P3FES, Will add their REMADE TEXTURES to the P3P on Steam. Still, as good as that sounds: I always find this a RED FLAG. If we need to fix it, why they would ever port a game with the best they could do?
@advmx3
@advmx3 Год назад
I just noticed: I said it doesn't mean you can't hire competent people to fix the code. Sorry for the typo.
@zeroskaterz92
@zeroskaterz92 Год назад
Square Enix also don't have the source codes for FFVIII and they still managed to made FFVIII remastered. Atlus really has no excuse for this. Some people would blame it on Sega but RGG Studio did it just fine with their games re-releases since they're also under Sega just like Atlus.
@Toksyuryel
@Toksyuryel Год назад
@@advmx3 You can edit comments on youtube
@moister3727
@moister3727 Год назад
People will likelly exploded anyway if it was FES since you know, femc.
@shinyanakagawa8241
@shinyanakagawa8241 Год назад
exactly this. Thank you for clarifying.
@godonomas
@godonomas Год назад
Damn. Atlus do be slowly giving p3 the p1 & p2 treatment.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
I wouldn't be surprised at this point if they dropped it from the golden child list lol
@Zerorenren4761
@Zerorenren4761 Год назад
When P6 come out i think that P3 will cease to be part of their favorite kids and will become "the one they reference only in events/spin offs"
@TheBlackSeraph
@TheBlackSeraph Год назад
@@Zerorenren4761 In all fairness, P3 was almost like that already. And when P6 happens, P4 will be on that list too. Notice how P5 is already returning the series to demon summoning, and with implied Lovecraftian roots?
@CrusadiaIX
@CrusadiaIX 4 месяца назад
@@Tony4You I am from the future and I come bearing strange news
@chiefff18
@chiefff18 2 месяца назад
@@CrusadiaIX bear-ing strange news?
@thecoolnerdcolress1738
@thecoolnerdcolress1738 Год назад
Alright so, The Raidou Kuzunoha DLC stuff got erased from the Korean version thanks to Raidou's costume looking too similar to Imperial Japanese uniforms, and in history Japan wasn't too kind to Korea in the past, so they removed it (including Raidou's items). As of why it isnt simply in the other versions or as free DLC outside of Korea? I have no clue.
@juanantonio5410
@juanantonio5410 Год назад
Pretty sure Koreans are smart enough to not care anyway. This political correction isn’t getting us anywhere.
@thecoolnerdcolress1738
@thecoolnerdcolress1738 Год назад
@@juanantonio5410 alright tbf if America got Bodied by like Canada and we had to see those stupid ass Ranger uniforms for years opressings us and then 50 years later a videogame character wore that shit people would feel a bit odd about it
@juanantonio5410
@juanantonio5410 Год назад
@@thecoolnerdcolress1738 That’s a lot of ifs though. Is Japan supposed to rewrite its history to hypothetically not hurt Koreans and Chinese? Lots of media portray American occupation of Japan (which ended only 50 years ago) without Japanese complaining. Also lots of media about the third Reich (although almost always in the bad role, I grant you that aha) and Jews, Gypsies and Poles are not boycotting it!
@WisteriaNerium
@WisteriaNerium Год назад
@@juanantonio5410 If you think Asian politics are that simple and that the issue boils down to "correctness" then you really have no idea of their History and Culture. And you probably shouldn't make judgements.
@juanantonio5410
@juanantonio5410 Год назад
Also I’d rather have the imperial Japan references censored worldwide as it is right now than like the Korean version censored and not the others, that would be very hypocritical and unfair I feel.
@MisterBallZach
@MisterBallZach Год назад
Atlus has posted addressing the audio issues but didn't give a timeline for when the update would come. Kinda gives reason to wonder why they didn't just release golden on consoles then p3p at a later date Edit: update comes from a leaker who supposedly worked on the ports, so rumor at best.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Yeah as far as I can tell, there's nothing coming soon. Such a shame
@oomi9030
@oomi9030 Год назад
At least when Atlus fails us, the Modders will come to shine
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Small comfort since they shouldn't have to. They are the heroes we need
@peronafanman
@peronafanman Год назад
Yeah but what about those playing on console? They're forced to wait until Atlus eventually patches these ports.
@TheRamblemanWhoSings
@TheRamblemanWhoSings Год назад
@@peronafanman hope they patch the ports, won't fully fix all the problems, but it should fix the audio at least
@DarkenRaul1
@DarkenRaul1 Год назад
I’m reminded of the problems of the SMT 3 PC port, it’s backlash, and subsequent patches. This isn’t a new thing for Atlus, and I think (hope) they’ve gotten the idea by now that PC ports are good (cuz they get more money from an untapped audience) but being too lazy about it is bad (backlash and bad publicity which they seem to not like). As for all the benefits / improvements people are talking about, I never expected those in the first place. Atlus has been toying with remaking Persona 3 and 4 for a long time now (as shown in consumer polls) so I’m sure we’ll see those in the coming years and all this controversy will be forgotten in the long run (not saying that’s good, just what I predict will happen)
@thegamerfe8751
@thegamerfe8751 Год назад
If you've never expected any improvements from this remaster then why would you buy it in the first place if you already own the original version ? At that point emulate it especially since PSP emulation is very light on requirements. Not saying that's your case, just a hypothetical scenario.
@vanilla8956
@vanilla8956 Год назад
Ryugi's shoes originally had the Imperial rising sun flag on them, which also had to be censored in Korea. This is also why Raidou had to be downloaded for free on Steam, as you're not allowed to have Raidou in Korea and China due to his outfit, a Taisho era school uniform, historically being styled after imperial military clothes. It's just like how In the JoJo games, the European version had the character Stroheim shirtless instead of wearing his SS uniform due to the game being set for release in Germany
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Oh wow there is a lot of history with these changes. Still a shame we didn't see it over here in America/Europe
@vanilla8956
@vanilla8956 Год назад
@@Tony4You It's because of Steam. Steam doesn't let you have the same game listing provide users in different countries with different products. At least not with the option to adjust your steam localization settings to allow you to play other localizations removed. However Steam does allow you to delist games from being visible and purchasable in certain territories, and that includes DLC. That's why Raidou was free DLC, so that Korean and Chinese players would not even have the option of downloading that DLC, and would instead have to play non-maniax Nocturne or shell out the money for Dante. I assume that this time with P5R that they decided that the Raidou costume was so minor and ignorable that they didn't bother making it a single free DLC. As the last time they did that with Nocturne, the reviews are filled with confused westerners saying "Why the hell is this hidden in free dlc?!"
@TheOneTrueOtaku1
@TheOneTrueOtaku1 Год назад
Honestly, while I have some mixed feelings on P3P’s content, I also have a lot of love and nostalgia for it. It was the game that introduced me to the Persona and SMT series, and was a game that helped me personally during a rough patch in my life. So to see a game that means an awful lot to me get such a botch job of a port, that I was genuinely looking for to re-experiencing, it just hurts all the more. That people are coping saying “this is why we need a full remake” or “this is Atlus testing the water for a remake” is also just saddening.
@thegamerfe8751
@thegamerfe8751 8 месяцев назад
How do you feel now ;)
@SavagePatch115
@SavagePatch115 Год назад
While not Persona, Soul Hackers 2 was also released in a weird state espicially for last gen consoles and has had several patches to improve performance and fix certain mechanics like being able to sprint. I have a weird feeling they've gotten too complacent in the last few years and makes me wonder what future holds with Persona 6 and if that game will release with many criticisms
@mechantechatonne
@mechantechatonne Год назад
I wonder how many years until they put out Persona 6 at all, frankly.
@FungusBug
@FungusBug Год назад
To provide some context to the Raidou DLC being slashed from the Korean version, from what I understand it’s due to bad blood between Korea and Imperial Japan (which the Raidou outfits are based on). It’s the same reason the Almighty and Rising Sun symbol on Ryuji’s shows were slashed as well. From what (admittedly little) I understand, Korea really hates anything to do with Imperial Japan because of past conflicts which the Japanese government has and continues to downplay or even outright deny the severity of. No clue why they couldn’t just make it free DLC in other regions though.
@ironbaysqiureg4827
@ironbaysqiureg4827 Год назад
I mean I get it but screw them. The rest of the world shouldn't suffer because one countries censorship.
@batmabel
@batmabel Год назад
lmao, Imperial Japan literally invaded, raped and pillage the entire country of Korea for years, tried to destroy the country's culture and even change people's names, saying it's "bad blood between Korea and Imperial Japan" and saying that "Korea hates anything to do with Imperial Japan" is some huge understatements that try to paint Korea as being wrong for not wanting to glorify people that literally tried to destroy their country. It's like if a German game came out and the heroes had skins for uniforms of the SS and you said "oh those were removed because Poland had some bad blood with the N-Germany"
@SavagePatch115
@SavagePatch115 Год назад
@@ironbaysqiureg4827 Nobody disagrees. It's just that Atlus was probably too lazy to actually port other versions forward and just decided to only port the Korean version of P5R
@FungusBug
@FungusBug Год назад
@@ironbaysqiureg4827 I don’t disagree with that. I personally don’t understand why another version wasn’t ported for the rest of the world or why ATLUS can’t just release a patch for other regions that brings back the DLC content. I’m just stating my understanding of why the Korean version was censored to begin with.
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Год назад
Ngl the new almighty icon is way better imo
@TheDaphinator
@TheDaphinator Год назад
Thank you so much for not dismissing the subpar nature of the P3 port. I got into Persona 3 last year because of the movies and I was elated when the port was announced, yet now I am so bummed by all of the feedback I have been hearing. I do not want new fans to look down on P3 because of this port being of lower quality than the 4 and 5 ones. If they do not like it at its best, that is fine. Yet for the rerelease to be worst than both of the older versions? That is so sad, especially as someone heavily impacted by Persona 3.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
P3 fans deserve better, I will always say this
@DeadwingDork
@DeadwingDork Год назад
The idea of taking the artistic elements/game script of FES and Portable, and throwing them into the P5R engine, seems similar to the Nier Replicant situation. Assign some B team to it, I don't know. I'm no expert on game development, but it kind of feels like the two hardest parts are already done. Trials of Mana - a game widely considered to be a bit of a cheap, basic remake compared to the big budget of FF7R - still got a better remake with more care and attention than what Persona 3 got, and that was going from 16 bit sprite art to 3D. And that game, while it was great, was nowhere near as impactful as P3. What a shame.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
I never even thought of something like that, and in hindsight that would have been the most interesting thing to happen to persona in a long time. Sadly it looks like they were more interested in a slap dash port than gaining more interest in the series
@Kieran5
@Kieran5 Год назад
I really just want Persona 1 and 2 back, i love the modern games, mostly, but i really wish that Atlus can finally listen to some of us and rerelease the games with way more things added.
@hikawagetsbitches
@hikawagetsbitches Год назад
fr
@BrianOblivionB
@BrianOblivionB Год назад
$$$ atleast we gots the emulator. Though p1 could really use some help... and not that psp shit. Psx.
@TheBlackSeraph
@TheBlackSeraph Год назад
definitely. I just want a physical version of both persona 2s on the same system at the same time. Had to spend a lot to import P2IS (PSP) from the US into Australia, and had to spend a LOOOOOT to import P2EP (PSX), and still not sure if it's safe to use the swap disc trick on a legit disc.
@quinnholloway5400
@quinnholloway5400 Год назад
Expand those games Make them ready for the new Era But nope They too lazy
@TurboAlice
@TurboAlice Год назад
Yeah those games are really the ones that need a remake not Persona 3. A complete Persona 2 duology would be nice for a start.
@PinClockFuntime
@PinClockFuntime Год назад
Honestly glad so many Persona/SMT RU-vidrs are speaking up about the botched P3P port (let alone having no alternatives for those that prefer FES). I'm hoping Atlus will take this to heart and fix P3P.
@limbobilbo8743
@limbobilbo8743 Год назад
The reason the raidou outfit isnt in the korean version is because the outfit is based on an imperial japanese outfit, which korea had a lot of bad blood with. They also removed the rising sun from ryuji’s shoes for a similar reason
@princessnavi8815
@princessnavi8815 Год назад
The reason the Raidou costume was removed in Korea is because it was based on imperial Japanese uniforms. The subject of Imperial Japan is very touchy in this part of the world, especially in Korea where there have been protests due to the Japanese government downplaying the atrocities during WW2. This is also why Raidou was removed in the Korean and Chinese versions of the SMT Nocturne remaster
@mannysmith5397
@mannysmith5397 Год назад
And thus, I emulated the PSP version on PPSSPPP and didn't give Atlus a damn cent. What an absolute failure of a release.
@tato-chip7612
@tato-chip7612 Год назад
Atlus could have used interns to manually alter the images in all the places where it looks wrong. And honestly i am nearly certain they do have the original files and they could have just re rendered them. As for the audio, that too!
@NasuPrime
@NasuPrime Год назад
Atlus really wanted me to pay $60 for a game I bought for the ps5 not even a year prior so I could play with an extra 30 fps
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
In the bad timeline of Sega rushing out ports disguised as remasters, things are weird for sure
@paulr.1962
@paulr.1962 Год назад
One good thing this P3P port did is finally localizing the game's text to multiple languages, like French, Spanish, and more. Even if they turn out to be fine at best, it's still more options to experience the game than the usual Atlus choice of "Japanese, English, or f*ck you". Also, on the gameplay side, I don't understand why manual skill inheritance isn't a thing in this port, considering Atlus were forced to add it to the Nocturne remaster after release, because people complained about it.
@HashBandicoot356
@HashBandicoot356 Год назад
Eternal Punishment re-release was apparently really good......And they didnt give it to us. Although now there is a fan translation.
@MooeysAura
@MooeysAura Год назад
Actually the removal of the noises shadows make when your a higher level than them is an upgrade imo I absolutely HATED that noise...
@bubbletea_
@bubbletea_ Год назад
i find it so wild that people seem to take issue with people expecting the modern port/remaster of persona 3 portable to be visually/audibly *better* than the original. i understand that for a lot of people, this will probably be the best they can get and i'm sure they'll still enjoy it regardless, but they deserve better.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
In today's day and age, "Remaster" just means "bare bones port" for most people, and a customer expecting a good product is entitlement. I hope the sales show Atlus the truth more than people on twitter
@gnuwaves743
@gnuwaves743 Год назад
best way they can *legally* get it.
@ofilosofoouumfumante5655
@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 Год назад
@@gnuwaves743 emulation isn't illegal though.
@Benjamin-ml7sv
@Benjamin-ml7sv Год назад
​@@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 A lot of people won't be able to get the roms legaly and have to pirate.
@ofilosofoouumfumante5655
@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 Год назад
@@Benjamin-ml7sv if you can't buy it, just pirate it. The company isn't doing a good job at making their games available to modern consoles so why it is wrong? Also if you're pirating it means you wouldn't buy it anyway.
@icaughtalopunny
@icaughtalopunny Год назад
“Hoping for more is just being entitled” hey, I heard that saying a lot with another JRPG franchise starting with the letter P...
@saffronoak6276
@saffronoak6276 Год назад
I'm new to persona and I find this very disrespectful in a way. It's like they didn't care much about the people who loved this series to a passion. I hope that they try and fix these issues with an update but I find it hard to believe they will. Maybe if this gets enough attention they may do something, but I still have doubts.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Here's hoping it does, there are plenty of videos talking about it
@GaeaRage0798
@GaeaRage0798 Год назад
5:43 "Look how they massacred my boy..."
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
😭😭😭
@Nemesiis-jc7wm
@Nemesiis-jc7wm Год назад
The main thing that bums me out is the fact that I don’t get to play the Answer with quality of life changes for Persona 3. Originally we weren’t able to give the SEES crew direct commands and it took away from the experience (and the grind fest that it was) . Not to mention a lot of people are in the dark about what happens to the MC when the game “ends” in P3P. These other issues only disappoints me even more.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Even something as seemingly small as a fusion by result and manual skill inheritance would go such a long way
@GaeaRage0798
@GaeaRage0798 Год назад
If you ask me, ATLUS dropped the ball with P3 at the very moment they decided to port P3P instead of P3FES. It's not because I hate Portable or something like that, quite the contrary, I find both Portable and FES as alternative experiences with their own pros and cons, but rather because Portable wasn't design to be played on non-potable hardware, and there was very little room for improvement, both in graphics and gameplay, contrary to FES, which had more potential for improvement in every possible aspect. Looks like I'm sticking to emulators for a long while.
@thatonebroski
@thatonebroski Год назад
they didn't even make a complete version
@sammysalgado1475
@sammysalgado1475 Год назад
They couldn't port/update Persona 3 fes because EA bought the engine that the game ran on Renderware Not a super known fact
@GinraiPrime666
@GinraiPrime666 Год назад
@@sammysalgado1475 As far as I'm aware its the same engine that powers Persona 4 so that seems abit odd.
@1kanyestan394
@1kanyestan394 Год назад
Persona 3 portable isn't a bad game imo
@asafesseidonsapphire
@asafesseidonsapphire Год назад
@@GinraiPrime666 golden was made in another engine, that's why some effects look wrong when comparing the two.
@justanotherpxrson
@justanotherpxrson Год назад
Its so sad that this even got released in this state. I refunded it for now. If they fix it, I will give it another shot. I really did like the unlocked fps, it was cool for this game. But this is just not okay by any stretch of the imagination.
@Christian-gr3gu
@Christian-gr3gu Год назад
I can’t believe they ruined the only modern game that has a female protagonist, how fun
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Atlus sabotaging prospective female Persona fans smh
@mechantechatonne
@mechantechatonne Год назад
@@Tony4You Soul Hackers 2 is a low budget shit show as well, and between that and the refusal to put the FemC in any of the spinoff games it gives me "we're not willing to invest money in a game with a female protagonist" vibes.
@DragonKingX78
@DragonKingX78 Год назад
I still want HD remasters for DDS 1+2, Raidou 1+2, SMT 1, 2, if, Persona 1 and both 2s, etc. but hope they do a better job on future projects.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
We can dream
@DragonKingX78
@DragonKingX78 8 месяцев назад
@@Tony4You I am still just dreaming....come on Atlus don't you want our money?!!
@ltb1345
@ltb1345 Год назад
I'm glad I started the Persona series with P4G on PC. That came out at a perfect time for me, during my Megaten binge of 2020. I've also really been enjoying P5R on Switch. It's a shame P3P is the odd one out, especially since I previously had a poor experience playing that game on an emulator, and was looking forward to being able to play it in an official, streamlined manner.
@Melancholy_Mudkip
@Melancholy_Mudkip Год назад
As someone who is basically still a newbie too the series, (P5 under my belt), but with knowledge to the other series, it's actually really mind blowing how deep this ATLUS "Port" rabbit hole goes
@thatitalianlameguy2235
@thatitalianlameguy2235 Год назад
Pretty sure that the real reason why Atlus didn't wanna port p3 properly is that fes was made with renderware and that shit has a dead license + Having to animate all of femc's exclusive game cutscenes like unique sls, fmvs and the inaba trip was too much time and money spent on a port to sega. Golden was recreated on a new engine on psvita so porting that one had no issues, they couldn't release even an emulated fes and portable together because of the renderware license, other games like sonic heroes are also not on steam because of it.
@tabris95
@tabris95 Год назад
When SMT III Nocturne HD released in Japan, it was full of bugs, long load times, bad audio compression and complete lack of QoL features like manual skill inheritance. It was actually patched before the English release fixing most of these issues. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for P3P
@galactic1555
@galactic1555 Год назад
Since Nocturne HD has the same audio issue I'm assuming they just straight up did not keep the original recordings/mixes of the older games and are just reusing the compressed versions for PS2/PSP since they didn't want to re-record anything apparently. We just have to hope that if they ever port DDS or Raidou to steam we won't keep having this issue.
@GinraiPrime666
@GinraiPrime666 Год назад
Its likely because the time they give for these remasters to happen is so short that to completely redo the audio to be higher quality is gonna take longer than the time these developers are given. Plus with teams focusing on other things and these remasters likely being handed to other smaller teams, even perhaps some outside developers, these kinds of remasters would need more time and effort than Atlus and Sega are currently willing to give.
@queen_alexandra996
@queen_alexandra996 Год назад
Honestly, as somone for whom the remake of P3P is my first time playing it, I didn't find any of the issues to be noticeable enough to impact my enjoyment of the game. I found the more stripped back, visual novel style, presentation to actually be an improvement over the free roaming of 4&5 and I can confidently say that it's my favourite in the series, flaws and all
@julioguzman5925
@julioguzman5925 Год назад
I'm on the same boat in a way. Despite P3 FES was my intro to persona and still own the copy, playing P3P on ps5 is pretty much good for me. I'm enjoying the game a lot as I slowly play through it. I do plan on playing on these new versions of the persona games. Never player P4G all the way ( Chie's new voice still doesn't stand well for me) and actually try out P5R
@Site17
@Site17 Год назад
This opinion isn't allowed. These loud clowns have deemed it so.
@projectmessiah
@projectmessiah Год назад
5:15 To be fair the difficulty customisation was already in p4g on the vita
@Nikkerman
@Nikkerman Год назад
As soon as I saw there was no opening cutscene and no actual hubs I just fired up the emulator
@stuntmankelp3198
@stuntmankelp3198 Год назад
That’s a real shame. I got into persona when p4 came to steam, and that started a long stream of dominoes that eventually lead to me finding this channel. P3 is the only one of the new gen personas that I haven’t played. I was looking forward to the steam release but now it looks like I’m going to wait some time longer. Hope it gets an adequate patch soon.
@clashdarkogbrawler8385
@clashdarkogbrawler8385 Год назад
What do you think about persona 3 reload
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
I bet it will be good, probably because it looks exactly like Persona 5 lol
@lazer_31
@lazer_31 Год назад
As a newbie to P3, I'm enjoying the remaster. I know many wanted a port of Fes, but I'm honestly fine with portable. I don't mind the visual novel style even though many hate it. I personally think it does a fine job presenting the story. But I do agree that some elements don't work as well in the visual novel style. For the record I'm watching the Fes cutscenes as I'm playing the game for a comparison. To give an example, the opening of the game where we first see the protagonist and Yukari. Seeing the protag's lack of reaction to the dark hour, and Yukari's panic, and hesitation to pull the trigger sets the mood better than the visual novel style. I think they should've add the animated cutscenes into the remaster, and I do agree that it should've had other quality of life changes like the skill selection. Despite that I won't let it hinder my enjoyment of the game. Also in regards to why Portable got ported instead of Fes, apparently Portable sold more copies.
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Год назад
Yeah same my only real problem is the compressed audio, we have collection like mega man ZX that completely uncompressed the audio from the originals(both games were on the DS) and p3 portable doesn't have that yet
@1kanyestan394
@1kanyestan394 Год назад
@@kauanjos3199 I didn't even notice the audio at first, I like the nostalgic feeling it gives
@kosmosfan01
@kosmosfan01 Год назад
I've played through FES mutiple times on both my PS2/PS3 so I was honestly looking forward to checking out the differences with the FemMC route. I'm probably not noticing anything serious like the audio stuff because I normally don't pay super close attention if anything was wrong unless it was really blantant. The visual novel style does help make moving around a lot faster, especially when exploring the city. I'm still getting accustomed to the game acknowledging my gender at many points since it's still takes some getting used to that the entire playthrough is designed around it including social links being completely different depending on who you choose. If it was just a 1:1 port of FES with minor QoL changes, I likely would have skipped it myself. They'd pretty much have to do a remake for there to be a true definitive edition at this point and sometimes, things like these ports are to judge interest from the fanbase for future projects. I would like to be able to play through the older ones, especially since I only played through Eternal Punishment on the PS3 which is only half the story with Innocent Sin on PSP I believe.
@hommefataltaemin
@hommefataltaemin Год назад
Yeah I’m playing through Persona 3 for the first time right now and I’m really enjoying it a lot, but it sucks that I have to look up the cutscenes online, that I can’t travel around as I do in all the other games. Also it sucks that I won’t be able to play “The Answer” and will have to watch it online or something else.
@tespenkr9924
@tespenkr9924 Год назад
P4Gs PC port is a great remaster that got me into megaten. P5R might have gotten me into it if I waited for a deep sale on Steam (like what I'm doing now). P3P over FES? I might have not given SMT a chance.
@JustinPinedaMedia
@JustinPinedaMedia Год назад
Sounds to me ATLUS could not uncompress the sound or update the audio files so that it's the original uncompressed tracks for P3P.
@AltitudeConquest
@AltitudeConquest Год назад
About to finish the game and you hit the nail exactly on the head. Its a great game and my personal favorite in the series. I shouldnt be tabbing into a youtube playlist with the vastly superior cutscenes. AND THE AUDIO I've noticed that not ALL the sounds are so awfully compressed. It almost makes it worse that a sound as terrible sounding as a shadow dying is so frequently next to something crisp like a persona swap
@chancefreely
@chancefreely Год назад
I’m a pretty new SMT fan, only really getting into the series with the release of P4G on Steam. Since then I’ve played SMT V and Nocturne as well as P5R. I emulated P3P a while ago and got decently far. It definitely shows it’s age in places, especially with the social links I think, but it’s still a very solid entry. I can only imagine what a longtime fan of the series felt seeing the quality of the port. I do agree that fans should hold companies accountable for shipping clearly botched products, especially with their buying power. Hopefully they at least fix the audio. It was horrendous.
@chinkram
@chinkram Год назад
Is very sad when companies aren't willing to put the minimun effort just because they know they will sell well anyways..
@meowww7308
@meowww7308 Год назад
Kudos to having a review that I’ve seen which has the least FES bias possible. There’s definite flaws with the port, but those should be contained to the port itself and not bitterness over FES. I appreciate you being able to do that.
@pizzapicante27
@pizzapicante27 Год назад
Hey did you guys hear that the recently announced Persona 3 Reload WONT contain the extra content from FES nor will it contain the extra content from Portable?, nice one Atlus, nice one.
@petergriscom3431
@petergriscom3431 3 месяца назад
In hindsight, them announcing that Reload would have no FES content, then announcing "Reload's top sales and outpouring of support from fans made us reconsider and make the Answer DLC" was just damage control for the fact that the Answer was planned to be paid DLC from the start of development.
@gnuwaves743
@gnuwaves743 Год назад
I still have the psp disc and case, but haven't owned a psp for over a decade. It was always bullsht how you couldn't control the party members. And the dungeon grind really tested my patience. But I really liked the character designs and the themes the game tackled. I hope one day fem protagonist (hell all female jrpg protagonists) will get the respect she deserves.
@Comrade_Hee-Ho
@Comrade_Hee-Ho Год назад
This only makes me think that if they ever port the classic Persona games they will not restore anything of the original PSX version of Persona 1, P2IS PSP will have its worse battle system and the reduced difficulty. Fortunately P2EP PSP is a good re-release somehow, but I'm sure they will do something to still mess it up
@ils4844
@ils4844 Год назад
no shirt shitlock, still arguably preferable over full on remakes at least though
@nr2676
@nr2676 Год назад
Not only ATLUS, but also SEGA too (Sonic Origins is best example).
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Yeah this is something worth worrying about with the companies
@morkgin2459
@morkgin2459 Год назад
Well Yakuza games exist in defence
@nr2676
@nr2676 Год назад
@@morkgin2459 This is best cash cow for SEGA aside of Sonic Hedgehog (and number one in Japan), and RGG Studio optimization and ports are usally very good (this not suprise because they only made in last 15 years mainly Yakuza games, aside of Sakura Wars PS4 and Super Monkey Ball, so they have big experience with own engine).
@nr2676
@nr2676 Год назад
@@morkgin2459 Valkyria Chronicles 4 - PC version is buggy mess (infinite scrolling bug) Super Monkey Ball Banana Mania - new physic engine is much worse than original on Sega Dreamcast / Gamecube Sonic Origins - buggy mess and FPS drops Sonic Frontiers - Switch version looks like shit, huge pop in SMT III Nocturne HD Remaster - compressed soundtrack, FPS drops on Switch P3P - similar problems like SMT III Nocturne HD, compressed soundtrack + upscaled UI + random skill inherit
@ulysses-san7525
@ulysses-san7525 Год назад
Do y'all think will be getting a patch that fix the audio??
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
We can dream, but there is no confirmation just yet
@GRiznitDShiznit
@GRiznitDShiznit Год назад
Hopefully the modding community can save the day per usual.
@summer276
@summer276 Год назад
Playing the persona 3 portable port recently was my first time ever playing persona 3. I have a question for people who’ve played it in the past. At times there were moments where it showed like pictures of the cast (like when they had sushi to celebrate), were the pics that low res in the original too? Looked like pixels
@CheesyLizzy
@CheesyLizzy Год назад
I bought the Switch version and I haven't heard any audio problems at all. I don't know if it's cause I'm playing in handheld mode or what but the audio sounds just as good as it did when I played FES. And I've seen the comparison videos and the audio does sound really compressed there so I'm not sure what's going on
@AireenTheTrash
@AireenTheTrash Год назад
I want to buy the game... but I think I'll wait for them to either fix it or announce the rumored remaster?
@RainbowsClone
@RainbowsClone Год назад
I'd also recommend mods for making it good, there are already mods to add in the ps2 character models, fix some of the audio, and soon hopefully a mod to add the cutscenes back. I'm personally waiting for that mod to replay P3 since it'll be a long time if ever until a full 3D env mod is made
@johnsrj
@johnsrj Год назад
I didn't notice the audio being compressed because I play through the tv speakers so yeah. But I swear I didn't hear the MC say persona the first time I watched the scene nor the I am thou
@kur7568
@kur7568 Год назад
Hmm...what about the rumor of a persona 3 remake that's going around? The one where supposedly, it's gonna have persona 5's graphics and stuff
@PunkThrashMetal
@PunkThrashMetal Год назад
The issue here too is that if people are unhappy about the port, they will probably do a little googling and learn about the various mods (shoutout p3 new moon) that already exist for the game. We have a controllable party member mod for fes, the PSP is one of the easiest consoles to mod you can run p3p on virtually any android device made in the last 5 years.
@Fomortiis100
@Fomortiis100 Год назад
Square Enix lost the source code for Kingdom Hearts and they were still able to make the HD port of KH Final Mix by reverse-engineering copies of the game, and that's the definitive version of the game with no cut corners. It's also an action RPG with fairly complex interactions and physics that had to be maintained. Persona 3 is just a turn-based RPG, which I imagine should be much easier to reverse engineer.
@TheKingRiku
@TheKingRiku Год назад
I have played p4g and p5r. I was waiting for a full p3fes and p3p love child remaster to play it. After this release decided to just emulate p3fes with mods. Best decision ever.
@donb6181
@donb6181 Год назад
this video needed to be done
@thevulcan2949
@thevulcan2949 Год назад
Everyone else: *Talking about mods to fix things* Me on PS5: "...damn you, Atlus"
@naotokujikawa2751
@naotokujikawa2751 Год назад
as far as the Audio goes on Persona 3 Portable i have noticed on the Switch version atleast that when i changed my Switch's Audio from Stereo to Mono that it generally sounded much clearer and better atleast on the english audio,i haven't tested the japanese audio.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Interesting, I wonder if Atlus will address this stuff if there really was just a bug or easy to fix patch
@neku2741
@neku2741 Год назад
I recently started P3 FES after playing p3P on steam. It's a straight up upgrade from P3P in every way. I was shocked by the amount of cutscenes and being able to look at the polygons interact while they talks add so much more depth to the scene. I found out that the community has been remastered it themselves through mods and patches. There's a patch that allow you to control your party which eliminate the main criticisms people had about the game. Atlus fcked up for porting the P3P.
@lahuk1194
@lahuk1194 Год назад
Remember P3P came after the original P3 on PS2. The PSP disc couldn't hold all the cutscenes, so they switched to the VN style.
@justiceseeker7720
@justiceseeker7720 Год назад
I have always wondered why they decided to remaster these games like this. I mean didn't they remaster some parts of persona 3 and the character models in persona 3 dancing in moonlight?? Even if it had made us wait a few years, I would still be happy to see a persona 3 remaster with the graphics of persona 5.
@JeffreyThrash
@JeffreyThrash Год назад
Kind of glad I got to play Persona 3 FES when I had the chance (on the PS3). That game introduced me to Atlus’s games right when I was losing faith in Square Enix, and while it would still be interesting at some point to play P3P for the female protagonist, I can’t say I would be the Atlus fan I am today if I played Portable instead of FES as my first Persona game.
@littlered6340
@littlered6340 Год назад
Yup, P3FES is still my favorite person game. The second I realised they were just porting P3P and not a mix of FES and P3P, I realised they did not want my money. I would have paid full price for P3 Definitive or whatever they would have called it, but nope. My favorite SMT game in general is Nocturne, so like.. Atlus is coming for me personally. 😩 What did I do, except be loyal for decades, smh.
@robo567
@robo567 Год назад
i haven’t played persona 3 myself and from the looks of things, i guess i’ll just have to emulate fes if i ever do get to it.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
Unless you're willing to wait for a patch that may or may not come out, it's your best bet
@krisu2095
@krisu2095 Год назад
As sad as it is that we got one of *those* remasters, the way I see it is that at the very least I now own a legal copy of Persona 3-5. Hope they adress at least the biggest issues with the patch though not holding my breath as from what I heard here and there among the persona content creators is that Atlus doesn't exactly care. If anything there's a really cool mod that restores FES' cutscenes to the PSP version that's being apparently ported to the pc remaster. Looking forward to that + some other QoL improving mods that hopefully will come out.
@crisisofthemultiversechann8550
To be honest, I bought Persona 5 Royal on PS4, Persona 4 Golden on PC, and Persona 3 Portable on Switch. For Persona 3, I actually enjoyed FES the most, but at the same time, I also liked Portable too. Then again... it should've been a total remade game. If we ever do get a Persona 3 remake, let's hope it's the FULL version. Both protagonist routes AND The Answer, AND updated graphics like P5. ... Maybe. Dunno.
@razzvyberry4694
@razzvyberry4694 Год назад
For me the only issue I had with P5R pc port was the lack of anti-aliasing
@sampas07
@sampas07 Год назад
I played p3p on my vita, so when I played it on my ps5 I was like “is my ps5 broken?” Sadly unless we get a p3 remake, I don’t think we’ll get a definitive p3 anytime soon which is sad
@tomsky4751
@tomsky4751 Год назад
i’ve experienced some minor crashes and some small studdering in P5R’s the studdering is annoying but it’s only in scene transitions to places with a lot of npcs, and the crashes only happened when playing on pc which is why I primarily play it on my steam deck. Again not great but it’s still the same p5r experience but just a little less optimized thanks to the drm. Though i’ve no intention of playing persona 3’s port just cause I’m not really interested in it, but knowing the port has such poor audio and less options then p4 Golden definitely makes me not interested in getting it at all.
@sortedevaras
@sortedevaras Год назад
Persona 3 is my favorite game ever, but fuck this port. If my PC can emulate FES with no issues why can't my Xbox or PS5?
@tarblade1448
@tarblade1448 Год назад
They did the same thing with nocturne on pc and switch. The audio, especially the music was incredibly botched. Some people have gone as far as to say they have lost the source files for the ps2 era games so what we got is a kart/disc dump.
@staticchimera44
@staticchimera44 Год назад
How successful is the P3P port so far in terms of sales and stuff? Maybe if the game flunks enough, they'll feel the need to hopefully do something about it.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
As shown in the video, according to steam charts at least, it isn't doing too well
@steam-powereddolphin5449
@steam-powereddolphin5449 Год назад
I have a question about the P4G port: overall, how much better is it after the big update than before (including the notable new features)? It generally runs with little to no problem on my machine even before it. As for P5R, it runs adequately on my machine...if most of the settings are at their lowest, and I have almost nothing else open. Even then, it still struggles a bit at times, and it doesn't feel like keeping the Wi-Fi on for network access is worth it (at least in the Metaverse, where lag may be more likely and more of a hindrance). Other than that, I still like it. That said, I do wish there was a way to not have to have Denuvo DRM in an already demanding game, since it makes it even more so (and it probably also causes P4G to make my machine run hot instead of warm). And it basically requires that I'm connected to the internet for the first launch on each boot, which means less (but not zero) completely-offline playability. As for P3P Steam...I've already seen that the GameBanana page for it has a few mods that fix some of the very issues you've shown, possibly with more on the way.
@fefyfona4318
@fefyfona4318 Год назад
7:11 i don't remember texture pop in like that wtf??
@wyfy8599
@wyfy8599 Год назад
In my opinion, the definitive version of P3 would be one that was based off of FES, but added the Portable gameplay changes and excluded the answer storyline(because I hate it). The male protag route would have all the fmvs, and female route would no longer have a point and click setup. They could even use in-game assets, the existing character portraits, and existing voice lines to substitute for the lack of animated cutscenes in the FeMC route. That would've taken extra work though, and I get the feeling that most developers are not given a lot of time when it comes to these kinds of rereleases. What do you guys think?
@GoriCHAD
@GoriCHAD Год назад
How about Nocturne's port? I've been planning to get it but decided not to since it's quite expensive. Will probably get it on sale this summer or winter after buying my other more prioritized games.
@Tony4You
@Tony4You Год назад
I have less of a controversial take on the Nocturne port, though it is way worse than the original. It's sill worth playing
@GoriCHAD
@GoriCHAD Год назад
@@Tony4You Thanks for the info. I'm buying it for sure then.
@Slenderquil
@Slenderquil Год назад
I can't wait for the 2026 PC port of smt5 with so much drm you can't even run it
@dcb99filmz
@dcb99filmz 3 месяца назад
looks like we'll be getting it this year instesd
@RegalPixelKing
@RegalPixelKing Год назад
Persona 3 was my first Persona game, and it was really important for me for my mindset and what was happening in my personal life. It's such a shame that this port is so bad, and we should demand better from Atlus especially when the P4G and P5R ports were handled so well. At least on PC there are some mods to fix up the messy visuals and audio, and you can also port the PS2 character models to that version of the game among other things. But relying on mods for the game to runs like it should have at launch is unacceptable. It's also a shame that we got the inferior version of Persona 3. FES is better, period. Portable has Persona 4's battle system, which is a side step, and controllable party members, which is also a side step if you ask me, and FeMC which is a neat addition with new and mostly better social links as well as some great new tracks too. But FeMC also really shits the bed with stuff like being able to save Shinji, completely botching the game's message or being able to romance Ken which I mean... no.... he's 10. Being so lazy as to not even add selectable skills and adding Devuno basically makes the only upsides to this port be quick saves, difficulty customization, and on PC 120fps and mods. This port just sucks and I am very disappointed. It's the only Persona game on Steam that I did not buy, and I probably won't ever buy it, and I do it will be on sale and it won't be anytime soon.
@denzellzepeda4275
@denzellzepeda4275 Год назад
Same thoughts here hopefully it gets fixed soon and replaying P5R on steam after finishing it on gamepass
@TheSupremeKingOfCalamity
@TheSupremeKingOfCalamity Год назад
Yeah I bought the port on steam day 1 but didn’t get a chance to start it then I started hearing everything about how bad it was so now I’m playing strikers instead and don’t plan on touching P3P on steam until it gets patched and if it never does then. I’ll just play an emulated version of the original game and mod it to be the best way of playing portable.
@iceflake6179
@iceflake6179 Год назад
I love how they say in the description of P3p Steam "REMASTER GRAPHICS!" When did Remastered graphics mean just AI up-scaling the image in waifu2x XD
@pokejwis
@pokejwis Год назад
Ight so I am a newbie when it comes to this. But when I played royal I felt that I should play the others ones (once I finish royal of course) I decided to do portable and saw it was getting a port to my console (Xbox one) so I waited and when it did come out I played it for about 15 minutes and uninstalled it and installed Golden instead and had much more fun then I did with portable in the beginning. So what did this me typing this accomplish. To tell you that yeah this video is definitely correct
@RockPaperShiv
@RockPaperShiv Год назад
Really value the opinions, thank you. I'll still to lugging out my ps2 when it comes to P3
@krimsonkatt
@krimsonkatt Год назад
Some notes I would like to make. 1: I have no idea why Atlus ported the Korean version of P5R over any other. As for why certain things were removed/censored, Korea and China have HEAVY beef with Japan due to the war crimes Japan committed against their countries people during WW2 that they STILL haven't apologized for. Due to this, all depictions of anything resembling imperial Japanese memorabilia is censored in Korea and China. I'm pretty sure it's even against the law to show those symbols in media or in public in those countries like it's illegal to show not see symbols in most European countries. (but especially Germany) One of the things that is commonly censored was the "rising sun" flag which existed on Ryuji's shoes in an earlier version. Another common thing that was censored is imperial Japan outfits which Raido Kuzanoha wears. Therefore, the entire Raido DLC was completely removed from the game. There is actually a long list of errors/small issues in the new ports of P5R which includes: -Raido DLC completely removed from the game including in the code, so you can't even get it by hacking. -Ryuji's shoes have been censored both in-game and in FMVs to remove the rising sun symbol -Joker & Aketchi's showtime has a misprint on one of a signs in the background. This was corrected in the western localization, but not in other versions. -There is a full screen fade in during all-out attacks as well as in the opening FMV, supposedly to prevent epilepsy. However, this effect cannot be turned off even in settings. None of these are game breaking but they're certainly notable. There is a modpack though to restore the changes/censorship. 2: Honestly yes the Persona 3 Portable port is bad, but it's not as bad as people say. I actually like the sound effects being all crunchy because it adds impact to everything. Otherwise it would just be the P4G sound effects and those get boring after hearing them for 200 hours straight over two full playthroughs. I didn't notice any of the poor AI upscaling unless people specificly point it out, and even then it's hard for me to tell. And the voice acting isn't bad or compressed, the only thing that sounds bad is the rooftop scene where Yukari's voice (which is considered a sound effect in the files) is glitched. Yes FES is better but honestly I don't think we have to worry as it's very clear that Atlus's next big project is a Persona 3 remake done in P5's engine. Atlus rushed the port for P3P because they wanted to use FemC for marketing which the P3 Remake wouldn't have and so that they could have all 3 modern Personas out at the same time. P3R will probably release in January 2024 and be announced this June during E3 along with DDS HD.
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