Attack on Titan's Most "Pathetic" Moment Explained 

Attack on Titan

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Absolutely this! SeaTactics is often spot on but this one sentence was wrong (Saying Eren's character didn't grow). Consistent is a much better way to put it.

yes, just bcs he has same goal and principle doesn't mean he doesn't grow or didn't have character development

yes. his goals and ideals stay the same. his circumstances and maturity develops with the story. ...until 139

He has the same personality and world view. That makes him a static character.

@@camcam794 ehh i would disagree with that. his core ideals stay the same but his personality does change. he starts off with a very simple worldview and impulsive mind. as he learns about truths of the outside world, his views are challenged. this causes him to undergo one of the most radical personality changes in fiction. the amazing thing about this is that his ideals did not change, just the circumstances. he is now precise and calculated. he learned to be proactive and not reactive (with levi squad and female titan thing). he directly moves towards his goals, although the process may pain him. on the other hand MIKASA DOES NOT CHANGE. starts with "ereh...", hints at letting go of eren, doesnt pay it off, and ends with "erehh..."

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Close, but the main reason he did the rumbling was because the outside people simply EXISTED, it wasn't about them hating his kind, he felt as if them existing, getting to live his dream was them stealing it. People forget that Eren is the type of person who ALWAYS resulted to violence. He used his friends and the island as a coping mechanism to hide his real goal.

@@evanbell7825That's not the reason he started the rumbling, in the anime it's mentioned and shown that 1) all the other nations agreed to be against Paradis with Tylbur's speech (they're the enemies to all the world) and 2) almost all other nations have a superior technology vs Paradis, meaning they can easily wipe them out. Without the rumbling, Paradis could had been an easy target to eliminate along all the Eldians = his friends.

True :(

to be fair I didn't like him before the 4th season and I still think these emotions while pathetic are normal and in line with his character

yeah lol, it is unfortunate that some people hate Eren for having human emotions. It is important to remember that Eren is a complex character with a wide range of emotions. He is not perfect, but he is relatable and sympathetic. It is also true that some people may have started liking Eren more in the final season because he became more complex and nuanced. In the final season, Eren is forced to make difficult choices that have devastating consequences. This shows that he is not a one-dimensional character, but rather a complex human being with a wide range of emotions. It is important to be able to appreciate characters who are complex and flawed. Eren is a great example of such a character. He is a character who is both loved and hated, but he is always interesting and thought-provoking. I hope that more people will come to appreciate Eren for the complex and nuanced character that he is. He is a character who is worthy of our empathy and understanding.

Because it was pathetic compared to Eren's apology to Ramzi or Eren's wanting Historia to eat him in season 3.

@@CasperFiles1969 he also supressed his true feelings for a long time, and wheather something is more or ress pathetic doesn't matter, so long as it's human and in line with his character

@@SOLDAT_MENDES I started liking Eren because he was badass and cool and inspired me to grow my hair out ect, but that fact that I liked him because he was badass also meant I was more intersted in Aot and watched more videos also meant I started to understand the complexity of him. when I read the panel in the manga I chuckeled because that's how pathetic it is but as I watched more videos about the ending I started to understand why he acted this way, and the fact that he's more than just a badass gigachad while also being entertaining as hell when he acts like one makes rewatching the show really intersting and fun. definetly gonna do that sometime

When we first see Eren post-timeskip, he looks nothing like the Eren we knew before that. In fact, manga readers could be excused for not realising that 'Kruger' is actually Eren. The anime gives it away because of the voice.

An example of a song like that is Eminem - Stan. The verse where Stan murder-suicides himself and his pregnant girlfriend is when the song goes 'off'. The chords aren't off-key, but it's the part of the song meant to drive you over the edge, both figuratively and literally. The next verse, where Marshall finally answers Stan's letters, is where the song calms down, brings you back to reality and deals with the aftermath of what Stan did.

He also did the same things in s3 part 2 people hate this because he did this for mikasa even though he said her move on

​@@shantanutoraskar428Yeah, told her to move on, because he is gonna die, but of cource he wants to be with her, lol

​@@user-df8lp9zq8sHey, that's love for you. We've all had that one love we couldn't let go even if we knew it was the right thing to do. Someone you liked so much but unfortunately realized it wasn't meant to be.

It is true that Eren can be a whiny brat sometimes. He is a passionate and emotional person, and he often lets his emotions get the better of him. This is one of the things that makes him such a relatable character. He is not perfect, but he is human. It is important to remember that Eren has been through a lot in his life. He has seen his mother die, his friends get hurt, and his world torn apart. It is understandable that he would be emotional sometimes. In the final season, Eren has been under a lot of pressure. He is trying to save his people, but he is also making difficult choices that have devastating consequences. This stress has taken a toll on him, and it is not surprising that he has become more whiny and bratty. However, it is also important to remember that Eren is still a good person. He cares deeply about his friends and family, and he is willing to sacrifice everything for them. He is a complex and nuanced character, and we should not judge him too harshly for his flaws. I think it is important to be able to appreciate characters who are flawed and complex. Eren is a great example of such a character. He is a character who is both loved and hated, but he is always interesting and thought-provoking.

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They coping & wanna be edgy with a badass eren not a realistically written eren

It wasn't out character. Just not alining with a headcanon.

100% agree! Another moment of Eren being pathetic was when he was crying and demanding that Historia eat him. This was b4 the kissing of Historia's hand.

The scene completely diminished any potential growth or change that eren had as a character. At the end Isayama just went, "eren has always been a bitch just like season one, he's just following the path laid out for him!" No development or change in world view is boring.

It’s unfortunate you addicted to edgy over the top anime tropes & haven’t grown out of it you need some change otherwise you’ll stay a boring person if that’s really your issue with an extremely well written & thought out work…most well written stories even outside of anime arnt for simplistic readers/viewers hence why you can’t actually appreciate or experience actual art. @@shidder3606

He fumbled probably the easiest bag ever and then cried like a bitch for not getting laid

@@LuisSierra42 he then says that he wants her to be happy. Just doesn't want to die, and wants to be with her. This reduces these words to zero, lol

@@user-df8lp9zq8s Eren is still a wawa baby. Its utterly pathetic for his character.

No he literly saw him as he Was The selfish Brat that wants to kill everything. He is childish and never grow up

@@dominiczenone7604 It's not real my man

@@dominiczenone7604I love Eren, yeah. If your takeaway from the story is that Eren is just an evil genocider, that’s your problem. Nothing can justify or excuse the rumbling. But there are reasons and events that led to it that can’t just be tossed away. One for example being that one way or another, people were going to be genocided. Obviously that doesn’t make it right in any way, but we have to understand the reasoning behind these choices. Eldians were already in the process of being genocided. Now take a kid who’s been born into his own hell, mentally and physically torment him for years, and then give him godlike powers. What else could happen? Eren is the villain, but make no mistake, the world turned Eren into that villain.

Well thats what the point of the Rumbling was lmao, until the end of course

Right. I'm 18. I ain't mentally capable of handling not only the attack Titan powers but also the founding titans. Anyone would go insane. Eren did what he could

Eren is not some modern day Gen Zer. He comes from a time when you enlist as a soldier to age 15; which in many parts of the real world considered an adult. Eren is a grown man who was well aware of what he was doing.😊

@@shawnellesmith What bullshit

@@GameTimeNLL What part of what I said was bullshit?

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eren cried when his friends were dying. he cried when he was facing the cruelty of the world. he cried when he felt utterly powerless. he cried when he got betrayed. he cried when his mother got eaten. in the ending he is crying because your obsessed yandere childhood friend might find another man??? the entire series eren doesnt reciprocate ANY of mikasa's (crazy) love. it feels like mikasa is nothing but a nuisance to eren. they dont share one meaningful conversation.

@@blubblubblup Looks like you also missed the entire timeline where Eren and Mikasa lived together when they ran away from the war. Eren lived out his life with Mikasa and they shared that moment in time together for years for the rest of Erens life. In the end, you can see Mikasa smiling at the fact they had that ENTIRE LIFE before she beheads Eren.

@@kraugaming7557 that was a paths experience u can tell by the founding titan marks that appear on erens face as the memory ends but also how did that happen? who did that? how did mikasa go into this entire paths alternate timeline?

@@blubblubblup Mikasa got there the same way Eren walked Zeke all the years across his childhood. With the power of the founding titan you can simulate scenarios or revive memories as if they were real and take any Eldian into it, take how king Fritz in paradis brainwashed everyone in the island 100 years prior to the story. By the end after Eren tells Ymir that she can choose for herself, she sides with him bc he's the first one to ever give her a choice and not simply demand something of her, so she gives Eren the ability to control the paths even without having royal blood.

​@@kraugaming7557yeah, good to know that eren doesn't really care about his friends and abandoned them to die because he got a girlfriend, what a great scene

I’m with you there, many fans are downplaying the horror Eren inflicted on innocent people. Even if you understand where it came from (wiping out the Marley military in Liberio was totally justified for example).

But it was in character . Eren was always about" protecting friends" , " getting freedom" , and he was always kinda crazy , it was foreshadowed. So.... This three things about him just combined and thats what we get in the ending .

Some people don't fundamentally change as people Some people are slaves to their wants and wishes Eren is one of those people, and the story shows that, it's far from an accident

@@decafjava8565 I think the ones liking the ending understand what drove him, but also know he commited an inexcusable act on inimaginable scale.

@@DundGYep. This is a cautionary tale. If we humans don’t change our ways, then eventually we will be “rumbled” and it won’t only be the fault of the person causing the rumbling. Because that person will have been molded into a monster due to the cruel reality of our world.

A question that was kind of avoided, but probably for the best was "how long exactly did Eren spend trying to find other solutions"? A couple weeks, months, years, decades (I'm saying this in reference to The Path being considered a time chamber not congruent with reality)? The real answer to that could be he thought for as long as his mind could handle, since Eren does explicitly his mind "is a mess". So simply maybe he just didn't have the IQ or the mental fortitude to come up with a better solution, but he felt compelled to do something.

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Couldn’t deny this. Ymir could have ended everything if she didn’t let herself be enslaved by Fritz. Sadly her mentality was to rely on others’ praise or being relied on. I know the feeling. It feels great that someone is relying on you but it becomes exhausting also when they rely too much on you without any return. The last straw for her was Fritz not caring about her condition.

just like eren she was a mentally unstable idiot who came into power. all make sense. at least eren was aware of his friend's mutual love for him unlike ymir that was never loved by the king.

Oh heck no that's what we not gonna do ymir isn't no villian

what headaches did levi have ? episodes please

really?

@@coolguy7202 yep

@@Father_Daniel that's cool. i just think that it came out of nowhere and the plot twist of erens growth being meaningless is stupid.

@@coolguy7202 thats the point, he actually never grown. He has always been a suicidal maniac meathead.

@coolguy7202 I get it, I know alot of people don't like the scene. But I always felt it was obvious Eren loved her back. What happened when they were kids, the season 2 finale, and the scene where he asked her about her feelings. So I just thought it was nice payoff. But I respect your opinion and not just talking straight shit to me LOL .. sometimes I don't even comment on anime related things because backlash is so big LOL

And in many instances it seemed like he wanted to stop the rumbling more than go through with it

he may be able to live with the. cabin with Mikasa but about Armin and Jean and Connie. They will die faster since Eldia will be destroyed. His main purpose is not to save the world or eternal peace because such thing is impossible, conflict always exist. Thats why he choose what he care the most, his friends.

In all other paths that he tried, Eldia gets stomped to the ground by Marley alliance as Willy Tybur will declare war against Eldia. Meaning there is no other choice for Eren, to be killed or to kill to save his friends

He did have other choices, but no other choices led to the conclusion of his friends being safe and the island being saved from war they wouldnt be able to survive from. Thus the choices that Eren makes are sealed, because he doesnt want any other outcome to occur.

Honestly, I don't really know if there's a clear answer as to how Founding & Attack are related. From what we know Attack are special among 9 titans. While others can access their predecessor memories, Attack can send thoughts/memories to each other. In summary, they can create a loop among themselves. Attack titan are always fighting for Eldian freedom so I guess they have more freedom to see their predecessor & future memories through the Path. Sorry that's all I know.

My problem is just that. "He never changed," is what Isayama is saying. That doesn't make for a good character arc. Characters change and learn and their views on life shift and develop. To find out right at the end that eren just feels the same way he always did and hasn't done anything other than what he was essentially told to do is just sad.

@shidder3606 well it is sad tho, eren is just doomed to begin with. The "development" here for him i guees is that he actually could control mostly of what he wanted without people telling him whhat to and not to do and also hiding it, and that's we saw during a whole S4. I don't think the character "has always been that way" is a bad character, at least for me tho.

​@@shidder3606What he saw wasnt development, it was depression . It was so noticable in Issyama drawings . I remembet that panel, when he was looking at young Mikasa and himself in paths , his expression. I was feeling , in that moment he is back for a second .

Nothing wrong with static characters. Eren did learn and change his views no doubt, but his core personality largely stayed the same @@shidder3606

I understand your feelings. It was refreshing to see Eren break down and show his emotions again in that scene. It was a reminder that he is still a human being, even though he has been through so much. I also agree that it was frustrating to see Eren being so cold and edgy in the Marley and WfP arcs. It was hard to connect with him as a character during that time. I'm glad that Isayama felt the same way and brought the real Eren back in that scene. It made him a more relatable and sympathetic character. I also think it was important for Eren to have that breakdown with Armin. Armin is his best friend, and he is the only person who can truly understand him. It was good to see Eren finally be able to open up to him and express his emotions. And, I think that scene was a great moment for Eren's character development. It showed that he is still human, even though he has been through so much. It also showed that he has a strong bond with Armin, and that he can rely on him for support.

Nah. He is feeling sorry for what he did here. He was always been set on wiping people but his kindness is telling him it is wrong. You can see it in his expressions in season 4. He did his prior decision and came to realization of what he did. He used his goal to free his friends but ultimately he wanted to level the world. His desire took over and now his conscience is kicking in. It is sad but that’s how people are. He is always been an evil kid. We witnessed him killed adults and regarded them as animals. A normal kid won’t have that thoughts. I think this is a great development, for me at least. He came to realize how evil he is. He is not protagonist or antagonist. He is just a human being who decided to do things and make mistakes. It was the largest mistake thou.

I mean eren is a slave to freedom, and didn't know how to change the future. That is probably his main reason, but he chose that ending because it would save most of his friends.

@@mateonicolas1584 It's unclear how much power he had however. Lot of people argue that with the power to control any titan (and maybe any eldian's memory) through the intire history of titans, or at least since he was a kid, there would somehow be better solutions. I personally don't know what to think yet. That's why I'm in youtube comments all over the place lol

I think that’s a fact some people have a hard time understanding and accepting, that Eren indeed had a selfish desire that would overwhelm his other wants. It is true he wanted to save his friends, but his actions put them in more danger, and even got a few killed. Armin even recognizes Erens flawed reasoning. Eren is looking for some sort of way to try to justify his actions but simply can’t.

His friends were his number 1 goal. But it isnt enough to commite genocide . Like really . And so what really pushed him into it was his desire for freedom and selfish desire to see world from Armins book, his dream . Thats what pushed him . The point is, without this desire I think he wouldnt do it, he could use different plan

@@user-df8lp9zq8s Eren chose to see those sights, even if it meant sacrificing Sasha and Hange. He hates that he went that far to get to see that. He doesn't fully understand why but that's how he felt.

He felt guilty because in other paths, Eldia gets crushed.

I think first 3 seasons, Eren did love Mikasa but he had what we call 'inferiority complex'... He loved her but was also jealous of her too because she is strong than him and he thought that she is only protecting him because of his loyalty.

Didn't that happen cause falco inhaled zeke's (the beast titan's) spinal fluid

They explain this in the show, he's a mix of both Titans. It's not out of nowhere. When they pass down Titans they never mix the spinal fluid.. since they get them to eat the last Warrior. It makes sense in the story, there's setup/an explanation/a reason why.

people hated it because it didn't align with their headcanon.

I still hate the manga ending but anime ending is great cuz here armin isn't out of character

@@Echo-nn8dtAnd you love it cause it aligned with yours?

The words he said to her there pretty much sound like a confession though.

It’s an alternate reality, cause in the manga, not in the show, they discuss Mikiasa can see in parallel worlds, so the bit in the cabin was a peek into if Eren said yes to if she loved him.

They did happen in the paths.

Well even after Eren died, it’s pretty clear Mikasa never let go of her love for him. Look up what she wrote on his tombstone, the symbolism of the flowers she put on his grave and those same flowers she had on her body while wearing the scarf in her deathbed. She continued loving him until she died.

I need to know the answer to this because it's really bugging the hell out of me watching this video

@@TrueFool188 RIGHT? Like what is the reason? 😂

Which ymir?

@@valysheev Founder, sometimes forget there are 2😅

Right back at you buddy.

Tru mate! Erwin will lead the wall titans' charge 😂

Is it a meme that I'm not getting? There's no way that's his name. It keeps giving me whiplash

They're still eldians and connected by the paths, titan powers aren't the same as the paths, Ackermans are just immune to titan powers

I think eren didn't wipe her memories just created a different dimension where they both ran away to the cabin and bcz of that mikasa knew where eren's head was

It's simple... Ymir was trying to look into her head but she couldn't... Which in return caused Mikasa headaches. They are still eldians who can be brought to paths... That's what eren did... He created a fabricated reality in the paths and brought Mikasa there.... Lived 4 years with her. In reality not even few seconds passed... Eren never wiped her memories.... He brought her into paths right before it was time for him to die Mikasa's hands.... That's why both realities were intertwined as one when Mikasa kissed eren and says "see you later eren" He talked to everyone else when they were on boats... Not Mikasa cuz he can't wipe her memories I hope it helps

@@user-qx1id1dt8x but the marleans weren't in the paths when Erin talked to all the eldians. Was it because it was impossible or thats what he chose?

@@PrinceKumar-yz8nl definitely. Thanks!

She didn’t find another man thi