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Attack on Titan's Walls: A Failure of Epic Proportions 

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In this video Video essay we'll be exploring the iconic walls that serve a large role in the story for the manga/anime Attack on Titan. We're going to try and answer what they are, how did they fail, and a general discussion on failure.
Let me know what you think or what I got wrong, I'm always interested to see if folks are interested in conversations about the built environment.

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@harrisonmorandin5980
@harrisonmorandin5980 Год назад
To be fair, I don’t think the king who made the walls accounted for a 120m rod reiss titan😂
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
They just needed to stack the colossals 🙃
@harrisonmorandin5980
@harrisonmorandin5980 Год назад
@@onstructures engineering mindset😤
@ailius1520
@ailius1520 Год назад
This is a rare time where the often vague "combat engineer" is going to have more subject matter expertise than even a civil engineer. Spoilers for Season 4: If you want to tally up all the breaches, you could also count a few times the Cart titan carried people over the walls. But I want to add the ridiculous "Unknown Unknown" breach of one of the walls when Marley's military flew over it in airships and dropped paratroopers. That's kind of something somebody set in Season 1 would never have considered. The fundamental part of military engineering is, you aren't just holding back forces of nature. There's actually another opposing group of engineers out there who are just as smart as you are, and their goal is to cause your project to fail. And it's always easier to destroy something than to build it. There are in fact innumerable ways Marley can breach the walls. So you just can't have this attitude where the wall is defending you. Your defending garrison is defending you. The wall is a tool; a force multiplier for the defending garrison. If you have a wall and no defending garrison, your force multiplier is multiplying zero. Right off the bat, the biggest flaw of AoT's walls is lack of observation. They should have periodic outposts on top of the walls akin to the Great Wall of China where if one of the sentries observes a breach, they send a signal to inform the reaction force. This should be the Garrison Corps entire job: stand on top of the wall, look down on what's happening on the other side, and if you see any titan doing anything funny, call for help. If they were doing this, Season 2 would've ended early because the beast titan never would've snuck over the wall in the first place. It also would've saved them from the suicide charge in Season 3, since the Scout Corps' mission to retake Wall Maria would've been followed by a Garrison Corps' operation to garrison Wall Maria, and if that was the operations plan, the Scouts wouldn't have needed to keep their lines of retreat open because a relief force was coming. Though on the macro scale, they were so far behind in information due to being deliberately misled, their only real long term option was to keep throwing Scouts into the meat grinder until they knew who their enemy was. Considering the wall's designer deliberately wanted everyone inside to die; he just wanted them to last long enough for him as an individual to live out the rest of his life; they actually worked. The other thing that's sus from an engineering point of view is at 1:17. Look at how they get the rails over the pilasters. Really? They went with short makeshift ramps by stuffing logs underneath the tracks? So every 20m the poor draft horses have to lug the thing over that ridiculous hump? I know it's more time and materials but they really need to keep the rails level by building supports under the entire length. Also, I know it's a makeshift tarp, but they should've ran the ropes *under* the tracks rather than *over* them. Now nothing can be moved along that rail until the permanent covering is built.
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
Wow! You raise so many interesting points. I’m floored that so many of these combat engineering perspectives have new and interesting things to say about AoT’s infrastructure. I certainly focused on the titans v walls conflict, and neglected the Marley aspect, or the original intent of the walls designer. Thanks so much for adding to the conversation!
@BurningPCwow
@BurningPCwow 11 месяцев назад
"Tho the great wall never had to deal with a 40 foot Mongolian." That's the first time anyone has ever said that
@onstructures
@onstructures 11 месяцев назад
😂😂😅
@ruthannshepherd9054
@ruthannshepherd9054 Год назад
But the actual "wall" wasn't breached by Bertholt's titan. He breached the brick entrance and then Reiner's titan broke through the entrance, making a hole for other titans to enter. I could be wrong but that's what I saw while watching the anime.
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
No you’re correct! I mention the breach occurring at the gate around 7:40
@lifelinegaming490
@lifelinegaming490 Год назад
i love how instead of having so many flaws in the series , its still considered one of the best anime out there
@tx6723
@tx6723 Год назад
People want to try to scrutinize it cuz it’s so successful
@lifelinegaming490
@lifelinegaming490 Год назад
@@tx6723 i mean lets be honest , the animation sometimes gets kinda underwhelming , also dont forget about mr plot armor , reiner . still great series tho ngl
@CarbonatedGravy
@CarbonatedGravy 4 месяца назад
Far fewer flaws than most others, and it earns itself some leeway with how well thought out the majority of the plot is, biggest thing is that it’s so good people actually consider it worthy of digging this deep
@wanna-be-thinker2377
@wanna-be-thinker2377 Год назад
Going by all four of it shifters, I think the Jaw Titan can climb the walls too. So could the Cart Titan. So 2 more "Unknown Unknowns."
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
Hah you’re right! I suppose the walls weren’t very effective against most of the nine special titans 😬
@ignotaskatkus7685
@ignotaskatkus7685 Год назад
I mean, in his speech, Willy could as well be exaggerating the facts to manipulate the audience
@extraplain2412
@extraplain2412 Год назад
It's like saying, "There's a billion Ants in a nest. " it's clearly not true, but there's still so many that it doesn't even matter. There's always two types of dialogues in media: what the writer is telling the audience through the characters, and what the characters themselves believe due to the events or information they have from inside their world. The walls got Titans in them that are ready to destroy the rest of the world, that's the bottom line. It would be more annoying if the characters magically knew how many titans there were. Kind of like how the people of Paradis call the shifters by their actual names, Armoured, Female, Collosel, etc. But this is a trope that happens in so many fictional worlds that you just have to accept it, and that's nitpicking at best. AoT is up there with Lord of the Rings for how beautiful it is in terms of story and characters.
@mill2712
@mill2712 4 месяца назад
Unrelated but I actually did look up what the largest colony of ants was. It's the Argentine Ant Supercolony and it's estimated to have 307 million ants. Still not a billion but it is a lot higher than I ever thought.
@Gioyoji
@Gioyoji Год назад
I was ready to defend my former fav anime but nice video 🤨
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
Much appreciated!
@bbattle26
@bbattle26 Год назад
Sorry your premise is invalid at about 4 min. The Colossal Titan did not "latterly" breach the walls. He broke the gates. The gates are not load bearing. Also its said in a manga or ova that someone tried to dig under the walls, and it just kept going down several meters into the ground. Hakuna Matatah
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
Thanks for the comment, but I mention the failure at the gate at 7:40. Keep watching! I hope you’d agree that if a valve in a dam fails and floods the nearby town we would still call it a dam failure..
@thasnoxi1291
@thasnoxi1291 5 месяцев назад
to note, gate are technically the weakest point of a castle, and are intentionally so, usually while it may be the weakest point oin a wall, the walls should be set up oin a way that allows for the entrance of that gate to be a death trap. the big issue is not having an "airlock" or seperate set of walls and gates, for in case an opposing force does take the main gate, youll still have a defensible position, and most of the city properly in your control, or at least a more important set. they do this on a national scale with the walls, but honestly they needed to reassure the citys as proper fortresses in their own right, instead of hoping that the current wall is perfect.12
@lollertoaster
@lollertoaster 5 месяцев назад
But they had this. It was the whole point of the protrusions sticking out of the wall. In the first episode you see people being evacuated and the second gate shut.
@TheGudTam
@TheGudTam Год назад
Have you ever played Final Fantasy 7? The city of Midgar is separated into an under and over world by steel plates that hold up the upper half. It collapses in game. It’s pretty complex and would be cool to see a breakdown of that!
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
I didn’t play it but that sounds so cool, I’ll have to look into it. Thanks!
@Monderoth
@Monderoth Год назад
There's a side story that mentions the foundations. A refugee tried to dig their way under it, and they went so deep that they mentally broke before they made it through... so it doesn't really tell us how deep it goes, but we could assume a depth of 1 buried colossal. If only because there was only one miner working on the tunnel with hand tools over the course of several months.
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
hmmm interesting, I hadn't seen that side story, makes it sound like it would have deep "sheet pile" foundation system!
@lonelywolf6180
@lonelywolf6180 5 месяцев назад
The walls were not to protect but to imprison.
@pinpindesaraffin1222
@pinpindesaraffin1222 Год назад
The purpose of the wall is to keep normal Titans out and to keep humans in. That's it, and the wall is successful in fulfilling that purpose. It wasn't designed to prevent Titan shifters from destroying or climbing the wall as they weren't supposed to do that in the first place. The First King evacuated to the island to keep the peace and threaten to execute the Rumbling if anyone attempts to destroy that peace. Marley just went greedy in getting Paradis' resources and the Founding Titan so they decided to invade Paradis. Then if invasion is your basis of the Wall not being a successful structure, then EACH and EVERY structure in our world are FAILURES. Any nation can drop a nuclear bomb to destroy any building, bridge, roads, or even on The Great Wall of China. So based on your definition of "failure", being destroyed by an invasion means those structures are failures too?
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
I appreciate for the comment, I agree with a lot of what you said. But I never once say the walls “are a failure” as a description of the object. The whole video is about failure as an EVENT. To answer your question, yes, every piece of the built environment could experience a failure, but it doesn’t mean they ARE failures. The video describes this in detail in the later third. Thanks again for watching.
@loganshalloe5927
@loganshalloe5927 Год назад
AoT and engineering my favourite things
@isaiahfitzhugh196
@isaiahfitzhugh196 Год назад
This video was really good.
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
Thank you!
@andreburruss11
@andreburruss11 3 месяца назад
The constructors of the wall did know about the colossal the beast and the armor titan and the rest of them
@andersontiban3444
@andersontiban3444 Год назад
Great video, enjoyed the content
@onstructures
@onstructures Год назад
Thank you!
@lollertoaster
@lollertoaster 5 месяцев назад
I think the walls served their defensive purpose well. If we are sticking to the dam analogy, the arrival of the smarter and stronger titans was not at all similar to a surge event. It was a literal terrorist attack. Dams will also fail, when the previously unknown enemy drops bombs on them.
@NickAndriadze
@NickAndriadze 5 месяцев назад
I think the most unrealistic part about these walls, even if it is in a fantasy setting, is the unfathomable amount of expensive and precious building materials that would take to build such gargantuan walls, *OUT OF TITAN CORPSES.* It's not a Ba Sing Se Wall scenario (From Avatar), where a bunch of Earthbenders can whip up a wall in no-time so it'd not be that hard to build such massive walling... Plus only half a million people maintaining such gargantuans too...
@onstructures
@onstructures 5 месяцев назад
Oh yea! I considered talking about their construction at one point but scrapped it because it just seemed to ridiculous.
@seansteele2693
@seansteele2693 5 месяцев назад
There's a very simple, lore-consistent explanation for how the walls were constructed - the titans in the walls had the same hardening ability that we see many of the titan shifters use in the series, and the wall itself is made of titan hardening. Also, the titans in the walls aren't corpses, they are just inactive due to a lack of sunlight. At least in terms of how the in-universe magic system makes this otherwise impossible structure feasible, it's actually a lot like the walls of Ba Sing Se.
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