Attack on Titan: Why the Trost Arc Works so Well | Socratic Cinema 

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what in the world went through your mind(s) when putting that God awful windows movie maker filter to make the video seem old? it literally makes the entire video look like shit.

I am upset there was a major spoiler for season 2, since i only watched s1 so far

@@christianmino4073 pretty sure its due to copyright

kind of off topic, i love reiner but he shouldnt have made annie take his gear especially bc bert was literally standing right there and couldve done it- he literally manipulated her into doing it for no reason-

​@@sloanissocoolandgreat I think about that a lot too. Reiner became their de-facto leader after Marcel died and I think part of that can be attributed to the fact that he was the only one willing to continue with their infiltration on Paradis Island. But yes, he did manipulate her while Bertholdt kept watch over the Titans.

@@sloanissocoolandgreat For 5 Years he didn't archive anything good in his mission. He is the worst one to be a Warrior while Eren is the worst one to have the founding titan.

@@sloanissocoolandgreat The reason Reiner made Annie do it is because he thought Annie had a crush on Marco, as she literally goes out of the way to save him a couple episodes back. He did that to ensure she was committed to the mission - and did not develop feelings to the devils of Paradis.

to be honest i couldn't see the difference between Marco and Bertholt

No they shoulda have shown it

@@Bornst3ll3r nah then reiner and the others woulda been outed and we woulda known they were titans

I thought that the revelation of Reiner killing Marco was unnecessary.

@@lordbrain8867 it's completely necessary for Reiners personal character arc

@@Michael-hc2vs it could have been shown in a number of ways. He could've shown remorse at, you know, breaching the wall in the first place or ordering Bertholdt to do it again at Trost.

Final arc be like: 🥲

wait i just realized that, theres like almost zero actual victories because they all come at a huge cost

@@notxon300 yeah the lost really does outweigh the victory. Especially reaching the sea.

I don't know, with the Trost arc I'd say that while it would obviously have been better if the colossal didn't make the whole in the wall in the first place, it was still a pretty clear cut victory. Lots of people died but they still saved hundreds of thousands of lives overall.

The ending of the Uprising Arc feels like a win more so than a loss, especially for Historia’s character.

Me too! It was really a wonderful arc to start the show off

I love our soft little coconut head boy ❤️

Armins character development in Return To Shiganshina and the series as a whole is just wonderful. He is definitely my favorite character.

Armin is my absolute crush. Not gay tho...

@@brunocesarm.m9632 its okay bro 👌 we get it

It's the shippers

@@arachnid5206 also the people who are biased to paradis and think Eren genocide is actually a good thing

@@lillrice27 I'm kinda disappointed (not with the story) that Eren is doing that

Plus the scouts

@@kirbydirby2003 well that’s the point of a good show

I totally agree, rewatching the whole series felt like a new experience

Yes. I’m rewatching the series again. I’m at the beginning of season 2 where (spoilers) Ymir just turned into a titan. That episode alone hits you so much different than when you first see it. When Ymir finds Zeke’s stash of alcohol and canned goods and she can read the canned goods. Reiner finally realizes that she’s from Marley without saying anything. The first time you see it your clueless but after the rewatch the fog is lifted

@@sh4rk535 are those canned bring by Zeke? I initially thought those are just canned food from Marley before the Wall are build. Because Ymir have been wandering as mindless titan for at least 60 years, so the language she knew may not be as same as Marley nowadays, that I presumed back then.

@@JeusAlprime108 uh that’s a bit of a stretch, I doubt the language would’ve changed that significantly in 60 years... You can read things in English that are 100 years old and you’d be able to understand it even if the formatting might be a bit old timey

@@ReisRBedir I presumed that back then since my first viewing when Reiner seem like can't read the language but surprise why Ymir can, I make that presumption and never doubt it during my second viewing. Until now only I realise there are other possibilities existed.

Did Rico die? She disappeared

@@v1keennn85 She's still alive, just hanging back in Paradise serving her duty as a soldier. I recently re-watched the show and outside of the Trost arc she's not as prevalent a character as I remembered sadly.

@@MrEdit-ic7th Thats sad,she was an interesting character

@@v1keennn85 After all this time, almost every single character still alive made a re-appearance in this final battle except for Rico and Kitz (and maybe Gustav), so I thought that maybe Isayama forgot about her existence, but she appeared in the fake preview of Vol.32 so no, Isayama hasn't forgotten her, and she will definitely appear soon. Since Rico is one of the best soldiers of the Garrison, and also stationed right near where the Survey Corps hang out, it was/is VERY strange that she didn't appear. So I thought of two possible reasons as to why we never saw her yet: 1. Since Titans are no longer a threat to the people within the Walls, the purpose of the Garrison has greatly diminished (as Lobov has stated). Because of this, perhaps Kitz and Rico changed factions to the Military Police. (And in my headcanon if we go this route, Rico is working for Queen Historia, which is foreshadowed by how in the manga - cut from the anime goddammit - she helped Historia after the Reiner-Berthold-Ymir Incident. Also, in the games, Historia/Krista and Rico have several interactions, where Historia/Krista has low confidence in herself, and Rico encourages her. They're pretty cute together.) 2. (This one is now invalid) While the gang are out to stop Eren, Rico and the Garrison are struggling to defeat the Beast Titan back on the Island. The battle against the Jaegerists and Marleyans has already reduced their numbers and strength greatly, so it looks like there is no hope. But then Annie, Falco, Gabi, and Kiyomi join them, and together they defeat Zeke. Rico, who lost her left arm during the fight, impales Zeke through the head and keeps him alive so that Levi can finish him off. She wants to honour the promise between him and Erwin Smith.

Underrated moment in the whole show

Certainly, prior to meeting him and the other cadets he was a spoiled and selfish guy with no care beyond living a safe life. But after the Trost arc and seeing what Marco saw in him along with what reality was really like, he stepped up despite being so scared of death. Four years later and look at him now, leading legions of soldiers and taking a Titan shifter head on. Marco was right.

He changed into more of a fucking horse than before

@@VPZealouZ I fucking choked

@Waves from. Horsey to daddy

Jean and Marco were bestfriends

omg

Bruh he would become the founder too

He was probably an "Eldian restorationist" too since he was sent to the island as a punishment(the old guy might have been in a Grisha flashback too I can't remember). So he would be both motivated to fight and he would have full knowledge of the outside world. An upgrade over Eren to be honest.

@@jamesherzog7629 *weeps in rumbling* and yes he was an Eldian Restorationist, same batch as Trisha (or whatever Grisha's first wife name is) aka the Smiling Titan.

@@jamesherzog7629 true

So, *Tatakae* . *Tatakae* .

we gonna see this in 2 weeks can't wait

its simple math

And the victory isn't certain

I agree. So much subtle foreshadowing that you don’t pick up in the first watch. But man, after the second watch it hits you like a brick wall

Yeah rewatching it now with my gf and I’ll look at her like ohh boy you didn’t see that hint

I even went as far as picking up the manga and I'm a few volumes in and the foreshadowing is insane! There are so many things that Annie, Reiner, and Bertholdt do that without context just seem so normal, but in reality could not be more suspicious. After you know the truth it's all so obvious! Things like this are the difference between a good story and a great story, and Hajime truly understands what makes a great story.

yep yep yep. Totally feel that

Isayama is a story weaving god. I can't wait to rewatch the anime and I'm leaning towards collecting the entire manga. The fact that he's been laying things out since page 1 blew my mind.

Me too and I just love how this word is used consistently all the way through the last season, gives me hope everytime

S4, 戦い、戦い.

One of my favorite moments in the entire series. I was really enjoying AoT, but this scene made me say, "Okay, this is something special."

The soundtrack also hits really hard at that point and never fails to set up the scene to send chills down my spine.

WE DON"T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG TOONIGHTT My god I remember the chill . back when there only ss1, that was my best moment of this show. Humanity first win.

I love that whole scene... especially right after the boulder drop when we see Rico crying as she fires the victory smoke signal.

@@salk9943 yeah I don’t get how so many people like cried over him when he has less screen time than both Udo and Zofia

Only the good die young.

It’s a recurring thing in Attack on Titan where Isayama fails at establishing characters and instead tells you instead of showing you.

@@salk9943 I felt the same way but then the story progresses showing the impact he had in many of our main characters,so when we learned the truth about his death it makes it 100x more impactful and makes you wonder what would’ve happened if he wasn’t at the wrong place at the wrong time. Rewatching the series made his death a lot more impactful since I already knew the harsh truth

@@lillrice27 it's called having empathy

Reading this comment made me so happy! This is exactly what I wish more people would see. Most of the time all I hear about this show is how great some of the reveals in season 2 and 3 are, but none of that would’ve been possible without the foundation built in season 1. I’m super glad you enjoyed the episode, and thank you for commenting!!!

I really wish that Mikasa had more character building through seasons 2&3 because her flashback episode and finding the will the keep living is one of the best moments in the entire series and gives me goosebumps every time

@@bradneece2409 She has her moments,I highly recommend the manga as the anime sadly waifunised her too much lol. She even had great bonds with Sasha which was completely thrown out the window in anime. Not saying the adaptation is bad but s1-3 cut a lot of content from her & Levi’s side

@@santokun5835 I did notice that when reading it. But I still felt she didn't get any major development outside of the Trost Arc. (I haven't read any of the manga past where s3 of the anime leaves off. I'll read it when s4 is finished)

@@SocraticCinema agree

I agree! I loved the flaming imagery they used on his titan form in season 1, even if it wasn’t 100% accurate to the manga.

:| looks at future and Sweating :|

ok

...Well, I think that's kind of the point.

Marco's death was impactful for Annie Reiner and Bertholt.

@@__-go9cj and Jean

lmaooo

That literally makes no sense

@@jessiesargent7212 you missed the joke

Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

another patriot i see

@@IncredibleTheBob our devil is our only hope

Titanfolk represent!!

Thank you!

I to get this recomended and i have to say it was absolutely worth it

Yo ur profile pic is amazing 😂😂😂

we meet again

Hi

Thank you! I totally agree. In my opinion, there isn’t much else that comes close to the boulder scene in terms of sheer impact. It’ll be interesting to see if season 4 can top it!

did it reach your expectations?

Season 1 is amazing. In my opinion the Trost arc is the second best arc in the entire show, only second to the recapture of Shiganshina.

Season 1 wasn't overhyped. It deserved the hype it got. It was amazing

Season 1 is great as a rewatch but your first time you don’t know any characters and they didn’t do the best job fleshing them out so you ask “who” a lot. Season 1 on a second watch is way way way way better

That’s not a surface level clue, that’s foreshadowing and they do it multiple times through the first few seasons

@@mckevin229 foreshadowing IS surface level clues.

Just a matter of perspective

@@manu11.20 Idk bro the other perspective is trying to steal a titan god from unprovokative people to continue to oppress the rest of the world.

@@thegk-verse4216 I'm talking about bertholdt, reiner and annie here that they were just kids who wants to save their family but in order to save their family they need to kill the "devils" but turns out to be real people. Also reiner wants to be a "hero"

Plus i don't read the manga so please don't spoil me with anything

@@manu11.20 falco is flying titan

My first time watching I was like "who is Marco?" lol. Too many characters to keep track of.

The Levi squad fucking broke me. Then the next episode they just keep going, and I honestly believe that Levi loved Petra because of how much emphasis they put on her compared to the other squad members. And Petra's father talking about marriage while Levi had that look on his face...

Who is Amir?

Thank you! This is the second that made me fall in love with AoT as well. I think your point about background characters is spot on. It’s funny you should mention Rico, she’s one of my favorite characters, lol. Thank you for commenting, and I’m glad you enjoyed the video!

I love Rico. I wish we could have seen more of her. One of the more emotional moments for me is when she fires the victory smoke signal with tears running down her face. It's like she's feeling intense joy and grief at the same time.

Thank you!

Wow, that’s super interesting! It’s most definitely a fitting name, and now I feel like I need to go back and check out what all the other names mean, haha. Thanks for commenting!!

@@SocraticCinema research the consolation of philosophy it parallels annies storyline -being trapped in crystal visited by the Armin who is analogous of lady philosophy

my fav is season 2 episode 6. Reiner stole the sow i that episode , his and Bert's transformation was EPIC

Thas the hype talking.

he was half the man he used to be.

@@m33p0 Jesus bro

@@m33p0 too soon bro too soon

@@m33p0 Are you an Eldian? caz u sure are a DEVIL SPAWN

Remember in S2 when Zeke was sending titans at the castle, while reiner, connie, ymir and krista were stuck in the tower? The 2 remaining squad members with gear were getting eaten, and while the woman was being eaten she was pleading to her "dad" that she would be good and to please stop? Like holy fuck, Isayama is a psychopath 😳🥺😭

I kinda wish there was a more mixed array of reactions

@@LegendaryP-sl7gf That was the scene I noticed the trend. Such a good and depressing scene.

@@rockaawesome4765 I love that Attack on Titan makes the background characters actually FEEL alive, but considering who the author is and what universe they're in I'm wondering if I've made a huge mistake.

Same with people saying *trigger warning* then not explaining what kind of trigger it is

YES!

I think musical timing is one of the things Attack on Titan does best, and it’s honestly at its peak in the Trost Arc imo. I know a lot of people have been disappointed with Season 4’s music so far, but I’m hoping they’ll come around for some big impacts.

I find it rather tragic considering some reveals that are set to come out later within the final season. Just think, Eren was still alive when her body kept acting to keep her alive.

I think the new tracks we're getting in season 4 are amazing!

They really fit the new world we come into. Especially since moments like these in trost and what is in the beginning of season 4 are completely different. The show almost literally changes perspectives, the music we have is perfect for that.

@@ohsupdom yes exactly..The new season is like a different anime altogether...I would dare to say that the old ost doesn't even fit anymore..The new season is just grim and pain. So far the ost is just spot on

Eren istanrly said it wont work.

Eren literally answers that "[such situation] is pretty rosy. Frankly, it's dull". Sure, this was said by a 15-year old who was still blindly enraged from the death of his mother, but IDK.

SPOILER ............... you were so damn right

@@andrpaulino Man, i had totally forgot about it. But Isayama did spoiled the end since this ep.

Hahahaha 👍

You’re lucky I’m a manga reader, no spoilers please!

@@SocraticCinema I’m sorry , you’re too nice I feel bad now.

@@SocraticCinema Theoretically, most animeonlies will be spoiled regardless. Sadly, the youtube algorithm will upload manga spoilers into everyones feed who have watched aot content. since majority of it is manga

@@sk8skii yeah lol you have to be totally off the internet to not be spoiled. Spoilers are everywhere. Its a good thing i already read the manga

Hahaha, thank you so much!

Hahaha we’ll see!

thank you!

Glad to see someone from Titanfolk here! It’s definitely unpopular, and I totally love all the later arcs, but there’s always gonna be something special about Trost to me. Glad you like the channel!

The fanbase seems to be split between people who love season 2 and people who find season 2 to be meandering and boring compared to other seasons. I don't think that any arc has been as emotional as Trost... until the recapture of Shiganshina at least. The two Armin/Erwin episodes may have surpassed the emotional high of the boulder drop.

Same lol

i like re zero

@@mashll8443 That's a great anime as well.

No cap. There's still not any anime with a story as good as this.

@@harishpatil5055 hunter x hunter

Because of Eren. After that the plan was to take him to Marley and if he had the founding titan it would be an absolute win,but if he didn’t they would have lost the Jaws and acquired the Attack Titan

I think they thought its a bit risky to fight eren with his titan form considering eren has the founder titan and they dont know any details about how eren get the titan and to what extent he can use it . If he can use his full power as founder titan , then the warior will definitely lose here.

@@aishabakr6122 at this point they had no clue about eren having the founding Titan though, that was season 2

Totally. While I was hoping to see the Levi Squad in the first five episodes, it was surprisingly entertaining and I wish we saw more of it.

I'm totally down for Marley's perspective.

Yes but no. Im a bit of an Eren sympathizer. No one is in the right on either side but i still wouldnt want to hate my paradis bros lol

Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed :)

Idk man, toast just works.

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