For me, your channel was always about the hobby and not about specific watches. I'll never own 99.9% of the watches you review but I watch 100% of your videos because they teache me about this weird passion we all share. Keep up the good work 🤘
Great review. This used to be my dream watch back in the day. Now that I’m looking at it…that’s a solid 10K watch at most. Replace the AP logo with Doxa and it’s probably a 5K watch…
@@TheEasyRaildoes it have the powermatic with plastic pallet fork or the one with the normal ruby gems? I hate tissot for making that garbage and putting it in the prx.
Lots of solid chuckle moments in this; also TY for dispelling the “tool watch” fallacy… I dive with a fixed bezel kontiki because I know a dive bezel aint getting used under water. It feels cool, that’s why I do it.
I have this watch and I love it. It is so unique and get a lot of comments on how different and understated it is. It is one of those watches that if you know, you know.
I also love this watch..I have AP offshore black themes H seria in stainles steel..I also weith new submariner 41mm.. I dream of replacing submariner with an AP diver forged carbon .. but it's just a dream..
I like this watch. Mainly because reminds me of my all analog G-SHOCK GWR-B1000. Both have carbon cases, sapphire crystals and rubber (mine is carbon fibre reinforced) straps. The two biggest differences are: price and shock resistance. I mean the AP is a little bit more expensive and far less shockproof. I am quite happy with my G-SHOCK.
I got into hand tool woodworking a few years ago. Found I really enjoyed buying, restoring and sharpening saws, chisels and hand planes. I really admire the craftsmanship and design of these items and knowing that with basic maintenance, they'll outlast me. But the fact of the matter is, when it comes to actually getting work done, I go with my powertools, partly because they're faster, partly because I lack the skill and insight to properly utilize hand tools. Mechanical tool watches are the same. I love dive watches, and I love mechanical movements. I have zero interest in diving, but if I did, I wouldn't use a mechanical movement watch. I'd use a diving computer. There's a whole simulacra/simulation conversation to be had here, but the internet and modern white collar work has eroded my ability to think deeper than the depth of a piss creek, so you'll have to make due with my meandering story.
As a retired Certified Swiss Master Maison(CSOMH), I purchased this piece pre-owned in 2015 at a very fair price from a former source. Having been a luxury Collector for 44+ years, I was looking for a Carbon piece, and the 15706AU.OO.A002CA.01 fit the bill🤙 I would obviously only recommend this as a secondary, ancillary or tertiary wear, as though the Offshore Collection is more robust than the standard Oak Collection, this is still not a primary/daily wear piece. Overall I've been very happy with it though it doesn't get much wrist time as I swap this out with a carbon PAM when I want the black watch look, which isn't often, lol Nice vid & comments, especially regarding the present day luxury divers doubling as "tool watches," 😂😂🤙 Stay Well & Continued Success👊 RP
Hey @@rajmehta6210, I hope all's well👊 Great watch, as my Bro has one(1242) and that's actually the one that I wanted however I buy most of my watches Pre-Owned, especially my PAMs, and my source had a Sub Carbotech 2616(47mm), so I get/got what he's got, lol Though I wanted this one in 42 ideally, I've got the original Bronzos along with the 389, which is probably my most worn PAM, so I'm comfortable with the 47mm size. That said, the 42 Carbotech is a beautiful piece that is striking without overpowering the wrist, and I think that you'll really like it🤙 All the Best🍻 RP
Many thanks RP. I'm looking at the pam 1231 - it's approx 15k GBP in the UK new. For me it fits better than the offshore and value retention aisde satisfies my requirements for an all black diver. Not had experience wirh carbon or carbo tech before so appreciate your input. Regards Raj
I’m also big fan of AP..but in diver rank Blancpain 50fathoms is n1…I like this carbon edition a lot..I have AP offshore black themes,H seria-produced only one year and last year of iconic original offshore designe..I love my AP a lot.. this carbon diver is most beautiful diver by AP (my taste) ..I’m weithing new Rolex Submariner and I will be very happy if I change submariner with offshore diver carbon in future, but that's almost impossible …are you also collector of art,my friend is in charge for sale..
Hello @@felixmarks9352, thanks for responding👊 It's ironic that ya bring up the Blancpain Fiddy as it is also my fave diver!! In fact, I have the Dark Knight on right now as I type this response(Black PVD Fiddy #5015-11C30-52 for those unfamiliar), with plans to wear the Rose Gold Blue Dial/blue sapphire insert Fiddy for this evening's New Year's festivities(#5015 3603C 63B). Your AP example is a gorgeous piece and I hope that you enjoy it in good health!! Happy New Year Brotha🍻 RP
Very interesting to hear your opinion about the wearing comfort. I actually owned the exact same reference (15710ST) and it felt quite good with my even smaller 6.5" wrist. Yeah it looked big and bold but that was exactly the look I was aiming for. My strap was extremely comfortable but yeah it was quite top heavy. But that didn't lead to a descent in comfort. Funny enough I also bought it in 2019 and sold it after around 9 months of ownership. Not because it was too big or whatever. The only complaints I had were the rubber crowns that are probably done in a few years and need to be replaced by a 'reasonable' amount of money and the lume was just sh*t. Even the dial pattern didn't have anything I would say 'ow, look at this 20k piece!'. Compared to some GS watches it was simply underwhelming - to me. In the end I sold it because the (very beautiful!) movement suddenly stopped working. Luckily within the warranty time span even I bought it used at that time. The AP service center managed to send the watch back to me 3 times - always with new scratches even on the screws like a 1-day-newbie apprentice tried to open it without any knowledge about how a screw works. It was laughably ridicolous. Customer experience (here in Germany) was simply sh*t as well. That was were I decided to never buy an AP again. Even tough I really like their RO designs, especially the Offshores. Thanks!
Do the Omega Ultra Deep next. I want one, but I need a rational mind to tell me that it's not a "tool" watch, rather I'll look like a tool wearing it to my kids t-ball game.
Thanks for sharing. Always exciting to see you review these high end time pieces due to your comparison to other watches in different price tiers. Polprof diameter = over 9000
Thank you for stating that luxury watches aren't tool watches. You want a real tool watch, buy yourself a Citizen Aqualand that can compliment your diving computer! Although I love diving watches, the only dives I do are on my work desk 😊. Great review as always.. Keep it up
When I heard about your feedback on the wearability of the R.O. Driver, I paused, got up, and measured my wrist for the first time. Because damn, I have the exact same discomfort with mine. We might make great pals.😂 But in all honesty, I would pick the Seamaster Black Ceramic 43.5mm over the R.O Diver any day.
You should take the watch on Consignment. This way it’s not theft from John. 😂😂😂 I like this watch, I also like Hublot as well. Both have something to say, and neither are reasonable. Which, I guess is fun, because after all, watch people are reasonable 😂
7:30 from the argument that starts here, picture this, all these expensive watches suddenly become available for around 500 dollars each. Which would you pick? Suddenly it's all about the ones you like the look of. Would you still buy rolex when you could buy a patek or ap? Funnily enough, this is what happens when you enter the world of super replicas, all these watches that you might dream of owning can now be obtained for 500 dollars. Sure they're only 99% identical and a few might need modding, like the royal oak and nautilus bracelets and cases, but overall you get amazing watches for great prices. So you might start to also wonder how much the real ones are actually worth, like from these reps you'd think about 300 to 400 just for the materials and most of the machining excluding hand finishing work on some like the ap's and pp's, but besides that how much does the engineering, r&d and marketing really go into the final price tag? Personally I'm never really going to buy any of these brands even tho I could, maybe if it's solid gold, otherwise nope.
the overall weight, and top heaviness is what makes the ROO uncomfortable. Compared to my Aquanaut, my gosh, I'd take the Aquanaut every time for being so much more balanced and easy to wear.
I also really like the offshore diver and have been leaning towards one on a steel bracelet - hard to find used... My wrist is 8.5" and my question is if you think that would be more comfortable for me than your experience. For reference, because of your bad influence, I bought a titanium Ploprof like yours and love it after a year and a half of use.
Love the contreversial points made @ 3:55 . No actual professional diver is going to take a Rolex Sub down to work underwater for 6 hours. Although, they might take a Gshock ;)
I had a 15202 39mm Jumbo (shown in the video) and I wasn't crazy about it, but I actually think the 15300 is better. Quick-set date, tougher movement, central seconds hand.
Interesting watch but I always found it weird that AP copied the Omega Seamaster Helium Escape value with the Offshore diver. Honestly I think I the original Royal Oak is a beauty and a total classic grail watch, but I would take an SMP300 any day as a daily wear over this offshore. I know this makes me a loony but this watch or any offshore diver just doesn’t do it for me
@@eustab.anas-mann9510 considering the submariner is touching 10k, pre owned in steel, I've seen them go around 12-15k. AP vs Rolex prestige wise, well you decide. I personally have always loved internal timing bezels. It started with the hamilton khaki pilot pioneer aluminium.
Funny video,many clever observations- I’ve collected and enjoyed watches for 40 years - at 1 time the prices were rational even for the every day human now these watches are sold between dealers and celebrities and fools who would try to be like them - don’t be a fool ;) thanks HODINKEE and John Mayer for the ruining at 1 time a classy and unique hobby
True luxury is buying a plastic dive watch that is nearly impossible to rotate the bezel under water and paying $30k for the privilege! Just flexing the AP logo 😎. Nice looking watch thou.
lmao. spoke my mind!!! expensive mechanical watches are a piece of jewelry. stop saying they're tool watches! expensive movements are pretty and cool. if we valued accuracy and robustness then we'd go back to quartz/digital watches. or at least springdrives.. whether it's a dive watch, a racing watch, a moon watch. ya'll basically LARP'ing lol