@@philhartley7551 So, do I and agree. I think the OP had to make a video and had to find “something” to focus on. They provide excellent view with NO blind spots, the lens has yet to get dirty, less drag, no wind noise, feel very solid and can fold backwards and forwards if bumped and I think look very good from a style perspective.
Psst… under the trunk is another space… you should’ve looked further. Most reviewers miss this, it’s incredible. Also underneath the frunk is more space.
The other thing that no one mentions on range is that you will not drive 175m on a charge, you will start getting warnings at about 145 miles and will probably stop at 155 ish. As you state that is not enough!
Really enjoyed what is a very objective and honest view. I had the e-tron for a few days & couldn’t agree more. Fantastic in many ways, a couple of key drawbacks though. Best succinct review I’ve seen on this- thanks Pete.
Hi Peddlers, great vid & review! I completely agree with your view that a range of 180miles will put a lot of people off. We seriously considered the original e-tron, but the test drive car showed a range of just 170 miles and we couldn’t stop thinking, £70k+ for a car that will barely do 2hrs on motorway before we’d need to stop and charge!
I'm old enough to know what a mile is (I have to, I drive a 1958 Morris Minor 1000!) and I can easily convert km into miles and vice versa. When reviewing EVs , however, it would probably be helpful for most people living outside the UK, if you could state range figures in both kilometres and miles. Other than that, your review is brilliant! - I think the battery technology in EVs still has along way to go before I'd ever consider making the switch to electric (although we may all be forced to adopt EVs, eventually). For the time being, however, I think I'll be happily relying on the 948cc's of raw internal combustion power in my Morrie to get me about town.
Didn’t get chance to watch entire video last night, 100% agree, whilst electric looks like it will be the future for now but as its a 250mile round trip to my parents I really need a car with a range of 300+ miles and also a car that doesnt cost £100k
Where I live it was -28 degrees Fahrenheit this morning. My neighbor, who owns two Teslas, came out dressed like a Arctic explorer. He doesn't have the ability to charge at work and if he uses the heat enough for comfort he doesn't have the range to do his work roundtrip. I have a similar commute in a ICE vehicle. Just start it , turn on the heated seats and steering wheel, and drive it a few minutes and I can use all the heat I want.
Watched last night Peter and forgot to comment! Brilliant and honest review as always and some really interesting points about a motor that in my opinion is one of the best looking EVs around! Cheers buddy and keep up the great work!
Hi I’m from the states as well. I’ve been a long time follower and fan of Sir Pete. He does fantastic reviews of all kinds of cars on here! Also this community of peddlers are one of the best community’s on RU-vid! So kick back explore the backlog of exceptional videos and welcome to a great community and fans of petrol ped!
Well Peter, it might be the EV to buy at the moment but I’m not yet sold on the whole idea...we are just not ready and the range on that car is hopeless...how can you pay £89,000 and yet be unable to drive more than 70/80 miles away from home so for me, my day out in Sidmouth with range anxiety taunting me all the way home. I can’t buy that. Then heating...today was -2C with a biting wind...I was on a farm this morning and my fingers were freezing whilst taking some pictures...but my faithful tDiscovery Sport welcomed me with warm heated seats, heated windscreen, a powerful heater and that luxury beyond words, a heated steering wheel...and 42mpg to help me on my way. Now the D/Sport is outlawed in a few years time BUT it does what i and everybody else wants...EV’s are a long way off that ability. The wing mirrors....a crazy idea like too many touch screens...such technology has a place but not in the act of controlling a car....manoeuvring maybe but driving, no thank you..just ridiculous and unsafe...plus mighty tempting for any passing yob to snap off for fun and replacements?...£2000 each I would guess plus paintwork! The Audi is very good.....but it needs all those improvements you describe...sort that and then we are able to think again! Stay safe...wear gloves...delay the Tesla!! 🥶🥶😨😱😱😃😃😃😃😃Richard.
One of my trucking friends said identical issue with the Merc. Dark, wet along with headlights, also sunshine on a wet road behind you, the screens can’t take the glare.
That's interesting to hear. The reversing camera on my Mercedes has excellent night vision. It's an absolute godsend at night because the rear privacy glass makes the rear view mirror virtually unusable.
So pleased you mentioned the issue with camera mirrors. The fact you can’t change the angle you see by just moving your head makes them so dangerous. Surprised they put the screens for them so low on the doors too. Cracking review as always Ped!
As an Etron launch edition owner I have to say you have absolutely nailed it in this review - basically an awsome car in every respect EXCEPT terribly dissapointing range and pointless tech on the door mirrors. You basically have to own an ICE car as an alternative for longer journeys (luckily my wifes 4.2 V8 Cayenne does nicely for these LOL)
Great insight to the world of electric cars. Personally I have an hybrid which is obviously the best of both, it’s going to be a sorry sight when we are all fully electric.
Just imagine going to a forecourt to charge your car on your way home from a long journey to find it’s full of cars being charged, you’d be in for a long day indeed.
Incredibly eloquent and accurate assessment of current charging infrastructure. Basically there are two segments to the market. Tesla, where if you have one of their cars you never ever have to worry about range or lack of charging, and the rest. However, for many of us we could count on one hand the number of 300 mile one day road trips were do. I charge our model 3 to circa 150 miles range once a week. That is all we need. Times are changing and our perceptions and expectations need to align with them. J
Having driven a few of these e-tron's now, I can completely agree with your view on the camera wing mirrors. Personally, I think they're a complete waste of money, and for reverse parking I found them very difficult to judge proximity to anything really. Well done for pointing it out to all your viewers, I think the idea should be dropped really, or maybe we could have a pop-up mirror just for reversing? Who knows.
The gripe I’ve got isn’t purely the range, it’s the charging time. We used to drive to the alps as a family - we used to take our 4.0 litre petrol jeep Cherokee. 20 mpg on a good day, 15mpg if you were lucky at 80 mph fully loaded with a roof box. I think on one tank aiming for an early ferry we saw 12mpg - about 200 miles brimmed to fumes. Thing is, when we came off the ferry at 10pm English time, there’s no way you want to have to spend 30-4t minutes charging the thing up - you just want to stop, squirt the go-go juice in in and pay in less than 5 minutes and head home for a pint of hogs back best and a kip. Plus this three petrol stops which accounted for 30 minutes of the journey through France - they’d add another 90-120 minutes to the journey. So to catch that ferry, we’d have missed an hour and a half of skiing in the most glorious powder. So yep, therell be an a6 all road in our barn for the road trips for years to come!
It’s not about range and never has been mate. It’s about charging speed and charging infrastructure. Range is excellent for a basic small economy petrol vehicle. Not so good for a Silver Shadow Rolls Royce, and I don’t think it matters to the purchaser of the Rolls. Same applies to heavy, luxury EVs. Range is NOT an issue and never has been. COMFORT, QUIET, SERENITY, and the plush envelopment that comes with that is what matters. Luxury car buyers (like myself - petrol, hybrid or EV) have NEVER given a TOSS about range. Just to clarify.
Great video again! Did look at the e-tron as the potential next car but as you say, with a poor infrastructure, I’m one of those nervous about the jump to EV and, for such a big SUV style car, I can’t quite see how this car works based on real world figures. ID3/4, Enyaq or Q4 style cars (if the latter can exceed 300 miles on a charge) seem to be the potential game changers (not sure about the build quality on the latest VWs though). E-tron GT looks interesting, but too pricey (although I heard a rumour about a mini e-tron GT, the GTS? Allegedly an S5 style offering which’d be very interesting indeed and possibly could coax me out of the S4). Here’s hoping for a change of pace in EV development from the mainstream manufacturers as you say in your video. Well done again, a good honest review!
I do around 25,000 miles a year, a mix between local travel and regular 250-300 miles a day longer journeys. I'll be interested to see your 1,000 miles in 3 weeks (a little less that I do) review and whether you charged at home - which is essential for most EV users (IMO). I'm just about to order my first EV. I've come to the conclusion that a) you need to be able to charge at home, b) charging frequently and for short periods, staying within the rapid charge curve of the car (for which the E-Tron is excellent) is the most time efficient C) planning your journeys to make use of the rapid chargers D) I never travel long distances without stopping a couple of times and I could easily be charging while doing that. This obsession with 300+ miles range is not, in my opinion, realistic, nor essential for me. The business case for going electric is significant, at the moment, and that is partly why I am doing it... and it will be a challenge and an adventure, something that, perhaps is needed, on those long motorway trips. The cost benefits will change soon enough with road pricing or whatever form the government takes to recover the £27b in taxes they get from ICE cars but while I can, I plan to take advantage of it.
@@PetrolPed Thanks. IMO, part of the difference is related to the circumstances surrounding having use of the car. You have one on loan. I am planning to lease on the company (either an Etron or a Tesla). In the process, I will be getting a home charger, I have travelled my most common long distance trips as part of my work, stopped at every services, checked the charge points, looked at the numbers, identified the rapid chargers (as they are an important element), looked at how much time I spent stopped in an ICE car during normal trip, checked out hotels where I can charge overnight. In other words, I've done my research, I know what to expect and whether it will work, or not. And it does. It wasn't a complicated process, not time consuming, just a bit of fun with a useful outcome. There aren't many compromises and some financial benefits to running an EV, hence the impending order. I'm not sure that having a car on loan for three weeks, with no home charger and little/no forethought to planning is the way that most people will look into EV ownership (a comment not a criticism). For many, who do a commute and some 100 mile trips, they may not need charging away from home. If you can charge at home, the EV. whatever size. shape or price, is an interesting choice. For people like myself, and presumably yourself, with trips away, longer drives and overnight stays, planning is more important but really not that difficult. Looking forward to your review of the car itself, as a 55 Etron is my preference. Great videos by the way, the most "real" reviews I find on the web.
A couple of years ago I toured the Highlands and Islands in a BMW Mini One. Memorable moments included sailing past Tesla’s who were clearly creeping around saving power whilst they tried to find a charge point. Now they had 250+ miles range. I saw a couple crawl into The Green Welly at Tyndrum. Can you imagine touring the Highlands in this Audi? You would need to wear a man nappy to even contemplate it😂 A great feature BTW.
Not 100% convinced by Electric. Expensive to produce the batteries in terms of environmental affect and welfare. How electricity is produced for the vehicle. How long the batteries will last. Never going to be affordable for the masses. Alternative technology needs investment
Even though the UK produces a significant amount of electric from wind and solar, it's not all about CO2, reducing air pollution is vital. According to the office of national statistics, Dementia was the leading cause of death in August 2020 in the UK, not C19 and is you Google 'air pollution dementia' for yourself and you'll see how strongly linked they are. We just can't keep pumping tiny particles of pollution into our towns and cities then, years later have to put those people into home care homes because they have developed congnitive impairments.
I agree 100% hybrid is way forward , electric in cities and then you have the range to do 380 mile trips for holidays .. The best way to replace ice is with new types of sustainable fuel ..
@@peterwilliamson1825 Not so long ago, the Government were pushing diesel as the best fuel. Then they demonised diesel and said petrol. But cars are not the biggest polluters. Look at Lorries, Buses, Trains, Planes and Ships/boats. They far outweigh what cars produce. We need to look at sustainability in alternative fuels. Not blindly electric.
These alternative fuels don't exist. What about hydrogen then? Hydrogen doesn't exist NATURALLY anywhere in earth, we have to make it and the process of making hydrogen uses three times the amount of electric per mile compared to using a battery electric vehicle. Plus, hydrogen fuel cell cars still need a battery.
@@peterwilliamson1825 in that case, focus on ships. With a world fleet of 100,000 commercial ships, the 16 largest pollute more than every vehicle on the planet. But far easier for the theta gruntburger types to focus on evil cars
Hi all!! hope everyone is doing well and staying healthy! Been looking forward to this one. I think range for electric cars is a big thing for a lot in the USA 🇺🇸. I’d say for me personally it has to be 275 minimum during winter with a max during warm weather around 325 to 350 before I’d really consider electric. Definitely not a fan of the mirrors or price wow 😳. But as always a fantastic review Sir Pete!!
I have three things to say about the car. One, I'm super happy to see Audis looking like Audis, even when they are electric Audis!! Two, range is everything! If they can't manage 250 miles, I can't see any reason to buy this car. I want to drive to my mum's or sister's place without re-charging. And three, have you purchased the Delta Integrale yet, and if not why not?? That was four things wasn't it?
Nice honest review on this one Pete, Love the looks, the tech involved and just a great package, but, i would agree with you and the range of these cars are/ will be a big key selling point for the future of any brand. keep it up PP, great watch.
As always an honest review of the car in question. That is the biggest problem for me with ev at the moment, range. I do 140 miles round trip to and from work, and for the amount of money this thing costs it is just not there for yet.
If you can charge at home, you might just be the perfect EV candidate! Most modern EVs have no problem with 140 miles even in the coldest weather. If you really drive over 30k miles per year you will save thousands per year in fuel costs and enjoy a "full tank" every morning. Of course, this will depend greatly on your local energy and gas rates.
A great balanced review Pedro. My sister has the regular (non sport-back) version of the same car and sees the same problem with range. You’ve rightly pointed out that building better infrastructure is going to be key for sorting out this vehicles shortcomings. Quite simply, there isn’t enough fast chargers out in the regions. Hopefully once we are through Covid, government and business can come together to build a world-leading national network. What a place to sit whilst you’re travelling though 🙂
I'm sure it's mentioned elsewhere but any electric car costing over £35,000 doesn't qualify now for a grant - so add a few more thousand onto the price of these
It’s just too bloody big!! All the tech in the world cant hide the fact it is a monster of a car which will require huge batteries and big electric motors. Defies the whole point of the “green brief”. Beautifully made as always but.... well not for me (I’ll never bloody afford one anyway). Great review as always; thank you 🙏
Wife's first comment was, what's happened to the mirrors, they look like they have been knocked off! I wouldn't spec them personally. But I agree with you, range is the big issue there! Great honest review mate
10:03 - "If you want to do lots of miles, this is a brilliant car to do it in." Err ... no it's not, if you have to stop for a few hours after 180 miles. That makes half the country unavailable to me. Absolute deal-breaker.
Tesla is the perfect example of sorting out the charging infrastructure before giving their car a decent range to start with. 185 miles is not good enough from a £90k car.
Actually the e-tron has a unique monster flat charging speed of 150kw from 10-80%. Unlike any other electric car. So you only need to wait 15-20 minutes after driving for 180 miles not a few hours. That’s not how you drive electric cars. I need a piss after 180 miles anyway lol. The real world problems this gentleman has experienced is down to living in England 🏴🙁. Years behind many other forward thinking nations unfortunately.
@@ed234e Fair points. One aspect is that my stopping places on long-distance trips are not where chargers are. I stop at picnic spots, cafe carparks, bush-walk carparks, outside shops that i want/need to pop into, or where I'm staying for a night. Most motels/hotels don't have charging. Charging stations are backwards quality of life in that regard. EV's add to the journey time, not just change the pit-stop schedule. And wow man, your 15-20 minute piss is impressive. Medical museums will want your bladder after you're done with it. I have aspecific 660km (410 mile) trip that I sometimes do in a day. I don't want that day to be any longer than it is.
EV vehicles are still nowhere close to being a genuine replacement for combustion engine cars. I should know as I have owned 3 Nissan Leafs over 6 years. Infrastructure is hopeless and expensive to use.
Simon, I not disrespecting your decision to buy a Nissan Leaf, as it is something I have considered, but I would have stopped at 1, if I had found out that the infrastructure wasn't very good. Maybe I just have a short fuse🤔🙄
Love the idea of rear view cameras, your insights re how good they aren't ( depth perception, 2d effect) were not something I had previously considered. Think I'll be sticking with mirrors for the foreseeable future..Thanks for the info Ped!
The legacy manufacturers could easily get bigger range but they don't want too at this moment.They have so much invested in ICE engines, transmissions and the factories they are produced in etc they don't want to sell them in massive numbers until nearer the time when they are forced to go all BEV and Hybrid.
Ive had my e tron 55 for 1.5 years now, fully specced with normal side mirrors. Truely great car. I drive in norway where it can get very cold and usually lots of snow. It just digs through everything. Nightvision and matrix leds are so good when driving in very dark areas, and i have never had range anxiety. We are very fortunate with charging infrastructure here in Norway. There are free public chargers everywhere, so even if you dont have a home charger you can get a full charge in ~8 hours. The 150kw+ network is also very good, no matter where you drive, there will be fast chargers. Ice cars are completely priced out here too, cars usually cost 2-3 times more here than anywhere else. So ev ownership is a no-brainer
God forbid, I'm not an Audi fan, far less a German car fan.... So for me to see this as a car I actually quite like is an achievement in itself. My experience with my PHEV with battery range is exactly that. What in the summer is a 40 mile range achieving maybe 32 miles drops to 20 miles in winter which gets you about 15 miles true range. And this is the issue with cold weather and battery technology. I would consider a full electric for my next company car however, range has to increase dramatically given I would normally drive 35k a year. The water car developed in Japan though seems more up my street, fill it with any kind of water including sea water and just drive..... Still a long way to go on development but surelysomething for the future
Good evening everyone. Certainly not a fan of the wing cameras & I wish I could get into these electric cars but I can't. Great review/video as always though.
I think you were very diplomatic about the charging infrastructure in this country Pete, I've heard horror stories especially about the motorway charging issues, I believe they are run by Ecotricity and by all accounts are at times pretty grim. You are right about the e-tron range though, who on earth would spend over 80k on a car with a range of 185 miles, it doesn't make sense when you can buy a Tesla for much less with a 100 mile longer range. I'm afraid I won't even consider an EV for at least another three years.
Great review of a car I could not live with at all. The range is completely inadequate. The range during our 6 months of winter would be even worse, and that is not counting the drag from plowing through snow, nor the electrical draw for lights, heaters, seat heater, and wipers needed in a snow storm. In an average year we see a few nights of -40. Your +2 is what we consider a warm winter day.
Great presentation Pete. Having had wing mirrors knocked off in the past, I wondered how deep my pockets would have to be to replace a camera unit vs a piece of glass. Hmmm. I think that battery technology and range will be akin to what we saw with the evolution of the petrol engine... albeit over a shorter period of time.
Those camera stalks seem even more tempting to knock off than standard mirrors. I'm not a yob & would never damage someone's car but they just look so 'grabbable'.
‘Weighs about the same as a small moon’ 😂. Great comment. Understand your disappointment with the range. The U.K. weather certainly makes a difference. Most Petrol cars have a range of 300 miles now, that may be why people expect that from an electric car. Fascinating review though. We do wish MINI would build a fully electric Countryman or Clubman
Great video, winter time with plenty of cold weather, how does the heaters cope, obviously electric therfore power usage. I have heard from artic drivers with cameras, same issues in wet and dark.
We are picking up our new car in March. We had numerous discussions as to whether we should go electric. As you say, most of the time we’d be driving to the shops etc but you couldn’t get around the fact that you can’t just jump in the car and head to Scotland without spending 4/5 hours on chargers. That’s almost the same time you’d spend actually driving! There’s also the fact that you are paying a premium on the EV. You get much more car for £30000 when you choose petrol. Needless to say we’re buying another petrol car.
Hi Ped Excellent review. As an Audi man love lots about this car, exterior, interior, dash & screens great improvement, not keen on the wheel design (minor personal preference). Cameras to replace wing mirrors definite No No, big distraction and possibly dangerous😬😬 Range, infrastructure, and cost big negative. Guess we are on same wavelength wit this one. Good to see the Pups being sensible🥰
Nice motor Pete, but I am with you on the mirrors. I wouldn't want to park it in a town centre on a Friday/Saturday night, those mirrors would be a target.Keep up the good work mate.
You’re spot on. 185 miles is way too low for a car of that value. It’s a good looking machine although touch screens aren’t my thing, it does at least look so much better than a Tesla (subjective, of course). But half the range of what is actually needed. And my biggest gripe with screens and cameras and not, mirrors is focal length. Try using them whilst wearing bifocals and crane your neck back in order to view them properly... How safe is that!?
What a shame about the rear view cameras. I really want them to catch on but what you say about lack of depth of field and the inability to see more if you move your head might put people off. Good review as always though. You always look at the things a genuine car buyer wants to know. Who cares if a water bottle fits in the door 😁
Another great review. The only thing I struggle with is the need for such big range from BEV’s? To achieve these ranges they will need batteries that are huge therefore heavy and extraordinary expensive, putting these cars further out of reach in monitory terms. As a man of a certain age my bladder determines my drive time in the car, with careful consideration I can tie this in with a charge stop therefore the perceived lack of range is not perhaps the issue we think it is.
I fully agree, Cars that size should be doing over 300 miles on a charge. I am a big Audi fan but it is so disappointing that the major car manufacturers cannot get close to Tesla when it comes to range. I will not waste my money on an electric car until they can sort their range out.
£89 grand! Where's the market for that? Having to plan a UK holiday round several hours sat at charging points (or queuing for one) doesn't work. A problem that will be getting worse as more people move over to them.
Like your honest input no sales pitch. Just a good review with your experience. You know I am not sure why they call these cars EV. They are battery cars just like my kids toy but my kids car when it runs out of juice we just change it to another recharged battery in no time flat so it never runs out of fun.
My biggest challenge with electric is the lack of noise. When they make an electric that pops popcorn it will win me. I know that I will have to adapt to electric somehow but I’m hoping to have something for me by the time I do. Big hugs to all petrolped community
I have an excellent rear view camera on my e-golf. But 30yrs of using my mirrors is far more superior than trying to use a rear view camera. It's only good to see how close you are to a wall of high kerb at your rear.
Get those mirrors broken off and you’ll need a mortgage to replace one 😂 And come 2030 there will be still millions of ICE cars out there and the second hand car market will be booming. Don’t forget that the government will want their pound of flesh once people convert to EV. Pay per mile could be just the start of clawing back lost revenue and people’s electricity bills will be far dearer as you’d need to charge your car every night if not most nights. EV ownership won’t be as cheap as one would think in my humble opinion.
I thought the same but they are actually cheaper than a whole mirror unit! i mean they are still £800 but a full "normal" mirror unit for an E-Tron is £950!
People will no longer 'own' a car after 2030. You will end up paying per mile anyhow and motoring will change. Volkswagen reckons their 'private owned sales after 2030 will be zero and the new cars they make will have that in mind. One thing is for sure: 'Paying you shall!'
@@guylambrechts2303 won’t bother me as I’ll always own my own car outright and it won’t be electric either, they’ll be plenty of ICE cars out there. EV won’t suit everybody that’s for sure and it’ll take a lot longer for the infrastructure to get set up, you’ll still need millions of charging points installed in private residential car parks, apartment complexes, workplaces and busy high roads and that’s besides dedicated car charging stations.
Was going to make a sensible comment about the special coating that is supposed to be on those mirror cameras, and how the industrial cleaning agents and multi-dropped mitts & cloths used during the average roadside carwash most eTrons will visit will remove said coating within 2 visits... But then realised nobody has made the gag about Audi drivers and their mirror usage...!!! 😁
Love the video, for me 300 miles is what I want, I could live with 250 miles at a push but the infrastructure for chargers need to be a lot better and until it is I will not change. hopefully within the next 2-3 years it will get a lot better and with newer tech on batteries maybe 300+ miles will be achievable.
Great review!! Totally agree that range and charging infrastructure are the negatives to ev ownership and you can see why that most people go for Tesla over other manufacturers due to the supercharger network
Thanks for the video, very honest and realistic. I'm a great fan of electric and hybrid vehicles and am considering all electric. Skoda Enyaq, VW ID4 are both strong contenders. I did test drive the Peugeot e2008 which was a good car to drive but the range was hugely disappointing. The range has to be 250 miles plus to make sense for me. I'm sure the technology is coming... :)
Hi Ped, another quality car from Audi, the range is not great, maybe ok for short trips around town but not ideal for longer journeys as the charging can take time to recharge. Unfortunately, still more work required to fine tune the mileage. This Mirror technology sounds expensive compared to the traditional mirrors.
Simply cannot understand the shear amount of speculative negative comments about the virtual mirrors. If you can afford this car and you don’t like the virtual mirrors then don’t buy them! Audi gives you that choice and virtual mirrors are an extra cost option. Personally, I have an e-tron Sportback with virtual mirrors and I have found them no where near as problematic as the original poster makes out and I have been driving cars for 40 years. Never had problems with the camera lens getting dirty to the point that vision is impaired and the image is clear and sharp even at night. I’m in Australia so maybe that has something to do with it.
With the mirror, i think it's range rovers who did a concept car that used not only the normal side camera but the rear camera which gave a much better view, a wider angle.
Instinctively I thought the mirror cameras looked like a bad idea. I'm glad you have called it out. I feel at the moment we are in a phase with new cars where manufacturers can do some really clever tech. However just, because you can do it doesn't mean to say you should. The touch screens are getting a bit much and the latest Golf for example with touch sensitive steering wheel controls are just silly.
They fit fancy camera mirrors to aid the aerodynamics, but still shape the front end like a Brick. I really hate the large bulky Flat front ends on modern cars, it just makes them all look the same. Bring back 90's cars !.
Very good honest review, hard to see how the even lower capacity Etron 50 works at such a huge a price v it’s range ability. Standard mirrors a must!! Tesla need the Model Y in Europe ASAP!
For this amount of money there is no way I would buy this car. The range is horrendous. I couldn't replace my main car with it under normal circumstances. What are they thinking with those mirrors?!!! Style over substance. The aerodynamic properties are exactly worth it!
I'd be interested in seeing you take a road trip where you add ballast to the car to simulate the weight of a family with luggage. What would another 200 kilos or so do to the range? I live in rural Colorado and the limited range of today's EVs coupled with the lack of charging infrastructure is the biggest factor keeping me away at the moment.
Hi All, last Friday a guy called into the garage to charge up his Nissan leaf, he was saying the range drops 20% in winter and he had 120 range and 120 mile journey but needed to stop for over 40mins while it charged.. The extreme cold we are experiencing in NE Scotland probably effects the range more.
As others say mirrors arent great. Just because the tech exists doesnt always mean its the best option to implement. But moving in the right direction in other areas.
You are absolutely right that for the money the range is pathetic. If you want range get a Tesla or a Hyundai Kona or a Kia e-Niro.....you'll also save yourself £40k
Good review mate you answered most of the important question number 1 being Range until the technology evolves enough to give these cars a range of 300 + very hard justifying spending 50 grand ➕ for one of these for the average buyer. Totally agree with the camera door mirrors although nice, looks to much like a gimmick. Build quality compared to the Tesla is all ways going to be better from the mainstream manufacturers . Great review 👏
