I have the 2022 phat eTron. Partly because of your channel. It does manage battery temperature at 25C and harvest heat from the motors to warm the cabin. The same system manages battery temp whilst charging so it can hold the high charge speed to 80%. On a long journey like your test I would see 150kw consistently when plugging in. Would love to compare my 95kwh 55 with the new 95kwh 50.
It still uses the same platform as the 2018 version. The next-gen Audi SUV will be the Q6 e-tron coming next year based on the PPE platform. (Same as the Porsche Macan.) That should have much faster charging due to the 800V architecture.
Please turn the Auto High Beam off when you see that it's not working correctly. Still just an assistant that just does not work 100%, especially in bad weather conditions.
Bjorn. Please do proper test with Tesla model Y RWD. 1000 km chalange. This is the best buy Tesla on many markets including Europe so some more test from your side would be nice. Thanks !
Thanks so much for this video! I have the old etron 55 (not the sportback) and my consumption at these temperatures and 120 km/h is below 30kw/h. So not sure what is different with the new version of the car but a bit disappointing, that the consumption of the new one seems almost higher...
In addition to suboptimal charging tactic, tested car had inefficient wheels. If these two factors were corrected, it would be able to manage in 10:10, max. So in better weather conditions we are talking about bellow 10h numbers. That changes the narative completly. 10min diff on a 1000km journey is a very small diff. Plug&charge will eat that much, if not more, when it's fully implemented (in few months). I'm looking forward to summer test 😉
Hi Björn, I really appreciate your test drives of various electric cars, very factual and informative! One thing I ask you is that we in Sweden have right-hand traffic, even on the motorways. It is prohibited by law to drive in the left lane except when overtaking a slower vehicle. All too often we see Norwegians who park in the outer lane, which is both illegal and extremely annoying. I expect to see that in the next 1000km test trips you drive in the right lane!
Bästa kommentaren ever. Jag kör massa bil både i Sverige och i Norge. Trafiken flyter så sjukt dåligt i Norge tack vare att folk kör om på insidan eller att dom kör sakta i vänsterfilen.
No one ever talks about the eSoul any more. I've always thought it was one of the best values around. Any comments about how its selling in the markets where it's available? Any "enhancements" for '24?
Thx Björn! Unfortunately that is what you get when a car company is run by mercenary managers instead of car enthusiasts. They reuse even the last dusty bit in the shelves as long as they can and also nickel and dime you for everything. I bet their marketing department cringes everytime they have to sell such a piece. Audi used to be a good company, nowadays they have to go back to the Sportquattro era to reawake some of their old image. Real shame!
Unfortunately you are awfully right about management prostitutes and corrupted labor union bosses stealing only in their own pockets. So instead of creatively improve products they reduce just costs on behalf of stupid buyers who believe in prestige and public relations. After 54 years of expensive and overpaid mostly German Premium I am very happy with low TCO Kia EV6 AWD. And by the way, in my Golf Club on the parking lot there are mostly S3XY-cars representing the iPhone-Generation better than Nokia or Motorola on wheels!😂😂😂
@@Lifecoach7Ra Is it better to support a car manufacturer that supports Putin’s regime? The only global carmaker left in Russia is Hyundai Motor Group.
As nice as it is to have all the bells and whistles of a German car- how sustainable is it for them to keep making these inefficient cars with big batteries
@@tobiasforsberg2497 and we should tax EVs on weight. Throwing batteries at the high-speed inefficiency problem hurts the low speed stop/go efficiency and relies on ubiquitous high speed charging- which we don't have in the UK
If you're buying a car this expensive, you probably don't care much about consumption, but you do very much care about time. I think most people don't regularly drive further than the range of this car, but if you do, then this charging speed is an absolute deal breaker
@@b127_1 I would also think so. But then again, I am not an Audi client, never was. Before Tesla I drove Mercedes. I could have been tempted for a BMW (but never an SUV), but not Audi. Just not my style.
Why would the charging speed be a deal breaker? It chagres 10-80 in 31 minute. That's just few seconds slower than latest batteries from Tesla for example. It's faster to 100%.
I have a question about the camera rear view mirrors. The energy that goes into use the camera for the rear-view mirrors + the screens for it must draw the same amount of energy that is lost when you remove the real rear-view mirrors? The screens for the cameras must take some energy + cameras. There really shouldn't be any lower consumption with camera rear-view mirrors. Or am I thinking wrong?
If you drive at 100km/h and the car consumes 333Wh/km, the average power of the car is 33.30 kW. Two cameras and small screens consume a comparatevly small amount of power. I would guess about 10W for 2 screens and cameras considering an iPad with a much larger screen and video recording can record for several hours on a 29Wh battery or a GoPro with a 7Wh battery can record at 1080p 60fps for 1,5h but has a much smaller screen. 10W is only 0.01 kW. Therefore the power usage of the camera assembly would be only 0.03% of the total comsumption of the car. Because the mirrors protrude so far, they create significantly more drag and should increase consumption by far more than only 0.03%, especially at higher speeds.
@@descb600f it is also supposed to be more efficient, but looking at this video, is quite concerning, mine arrives next week, I bought it as it was supposed to be a lot better…
@@justinjames9299 yeah I'm not sure this is looking more efficient. The efficiency looks a lot like my 55 with Virtual mirrors. I hope you haven't ordered the mirrors they leak mist up and Audi don't have a fix. Unusable 6 months of the year in Scotland .
Have you seen the width of their tires? They're ridiculous. Energy hogs like these should've been accounted for and restricted. But, free market bullshit wins out....
So true! But regulators haven’t got enough brains sometimes. Sure a EV is almost always better than a ICE for the environment. But it’s just wasteful to use more energy than one should just because it used to be cheep…..
So overtaking on the right is okay in an Audi? Not allowed in Sweden on roads faster than 80 unless forced by a queue 😜 I am glad my BMW iX1 has an option to make it avoid that kind of driving.
I was about to order for EQS SUV, Merc told me not to waste money.. poor energy management and drive train.. especially he mentioned this is an SUV with no HVAC.. at least for UK due to supply chain issues.. and mentioned it struggle with range in Winter / cold weather...
@@bjornnyland Thank you realy much! You are doing great work! Regarding the 99kwh it is funny when you look the precentage and the kwh value of the battery they are alwasy the same. If it is realy 99kwh only you can file a lawsuite because it is 7% less than prommised.
@@hurztwaldmeister7560 , i think it's 55 had same batteries with higher density 72mah vs 60mah in 50.... could be down to cold weather or something else ... but I don't agree with Audi bullshit of AC charging..
@@tv9b4u Cold weather makes sense for the first charging but at second or 3 charging, the battery is warm enough. So there is something wrong iside the battery, that he is missin 7kwh. Also EQS and IX do not have this behavior.
332Wh/km at mildly cool temperatures 💀💀 I don’t even want to know the consumption at a leisurely 150kph on the Autobahn! And if that’s not bad enough, the software and interior are just dated and would have been 2-3 years ago. I really don’t know how Audi is gonna phase out all fossil cars and switch to EVs in 2028 if they’re already lying battered and bruised in the competition’s dust with vultures circling above! Guess I won’t be holding out for the A6 e-tron and go for either the Model S or the Polestar 3 next…
@@propergander8509 , comparing apples to apples, BMW IX is not any better either.. except Model X - which has lite body and not close to 2.5 tons like Audi and BmW IX.
As an owner of a 2019/2020 etron 55.... this is just ridiculously disappointing from Audi. In four years they've managed to....ummm... do nothing? I can excuse the high consumption on the first evolution of the etron but come ooooon man, it's been FOUR fucking years... And for anyone wondering, after about 26 000km my average consumption is 25kwh/100km.
Hey - also a 2019 e-tron owner. I have a MY24 e-tron on order. I didn't expect anything more: it's a facelift, which is totally common for how Audi manages its vehicles' lifetime. I think Audi did exactly what they needed to do: they increased the efficiency slightly on the car (never it's strong suit due to lack of PM motors) and got the range "in line" (i.e. at least close enough) to the market leaders. Also, in any combination of charging between 10 - 90%, it will put more kWh into the battery than the outgoing e-tron. Yes, the curve isn't flat, but if you do the math, you'll see that it will charge about 10-15% faster than the outgoing car. So same car, but better in terms of range and changing speed. Nothing revolutionary, but it's a facelift, not a new model. They did exactly what they needed to do and I'm sure they'll sell every one that they make.
@@biff2bart509 I wholeheartedly disagree with you here =/. If this was a mature product line then sure a little facelift is fine. But it's not mature, nowhere near it. VW group already came out with their MEB platform so there is RnD out there. But in 4 years audi made pretty much NO progress with their top of the line flagship EV. I wouldn't call slapping in bigger batteries "progress". Not even the UI seems updated which really REALLY would need some TLC to make it more intuitive (then again, which legacy car maker has a good UI...). Now if the A6 etron is a massive leap ahead (which it should be) then this car looks even worse...but honestly, I'm not expecting much from A6 after this...
@@anttiranki3690 Audi did a major update to their Infotainment with MIB3 in 2020 mid-lifecycle. Changing "graphics" just for the sake of it benefits noone. Also, the Q8 is effectively 10k€ cheaper because the new 50 has more kWh capacity than the old 55, or you get more bang for the buck with the new 55. That's a lot for a facelift.
@@kngmrtn But it's still JUST a facelift among an emerging technology / segment. Considering the pace at which the competition is improving their EVs you'd expect far more.
ts: 1:30 estimated range: 323 km at 98 % at 4,5 degrees? 😵 with that consumption? damn.. its worse than my Q4 e50 (and a bit heavier...) do you know it it has same battery pack as Q4? it also doesnt preheat, but ill get low KW on the high chargers hence im only using IOSLO 11kw charger near my place..
Q4 is atleast 10-15% lighter in weight and motors deliver only 150KW.... same battery !! How 80KWH gross in Q4 vs 95kwh gross in Q8.. I don't get your calculations!!!
@@tv9b4u what do you mean? the range says so in the display? I know what battery and weight my car is and im astounded that the Q8 doesnt have longer range with 114 kwh gross battery even in cold weather . My Q4 have 82 kwh gross (77 net) capacity and weighs almost 2300 kg (Q8= 2595 kg) and im losing around 40% capacity below zero degrees
although a Model Y cannot be compared to a Q8 e-tron. The Model Y is upper middle class and the Audi upper class. which is reflected in driving comfort, noise insulation, etc.
Does Model Y have massaging seats? Can the Y’s headrest be adjusted? How’s the adaptive air suspension on the Model Y? Does Tesla offer Apple CarPlay? Is the Model Y quieter than the fat etron? What’s the difference between the base Model Y interior and the Performance Y?
Half efficient than M3 RWD. Slower in charging speeds than M3 RWD. and much more expensive. Once upon a time I was a big fan and owned a couple of Audis. But, come on Audi, this is really poor!
@@makro8218 you can easily compare the Model Y LR with the Audi then. Half price, more efficient, more range and AWD. I had Audis and I really liked them, but the inability to lead on EVs and ugly software is putting people off.
