Audi Quattro S1 Vs Audi S1 quattro - Old School Group B Vs Modern Rx Monster 

Amen.

+Nikola Andolovski I agree.But the new one maybe becomes one of legends of european hillclimb.

It can become a champion, a legend... i doubt it.

+Aridane Alamo Dude,i was talking about hillclimb,not rally.And besides,the cars like Gabat's Cosworth(2008. version with 830 horsepower),Hans Schori's procharged 800 horsepower Lancer Evo 6,Mike Jelinek's Impreza,Felix Pailer's Delta Integrale,Karl Schagerl's Golf 2,Georg Plasa's BMW e36 and 134 Judd and Reto Meisel's Mercedes 190 Judd are some of most legendary hillclimb cars.

100% agreed my friend they’re legendary

paul soames nothing!!!

I love my 5cyl Volvo. NOTHING screams like a 5 cyl engine.

Fuck yeah 5 cyl rulz !! :D

Wastegate chatter? Not so much my friend

It looks and sounds just more dramatic doesn’t it?

+Dr. Bananable Lector It won against the new S1,which is still in test phaze,but got spanked by Schagerl's Golf 2.

No it didn't. Nothing can spank the old quattro. What a noob comment.

Quiet noob.

it's shut up not "quiet noob"

+Malc180s Results of the race say otherwise.Schagerl's Golf 2 got ahead of both.It's Europe's fastest 4wd car and one of fastest hillclimb cars in general.Trust me,i've seen that thing in action.On this particular race,it went 3.7 seconds faster than Zlatkov's S1.That says enough.

row 5 cyl with about 15 bar turbo pressure lolz kinda can imagine that shit

I wouldn't go for the leisurely walk in the forest I usually do. Would be unsafe then. 😱

It was going to die anyway you know. Replaced by what would have been the even more insane Group S.

I know you are going to adore _Pikes Peak._

I pray 🙏 it comes back

Wee have one in the Red version

*school

@@michaelhall202 bless you 🤭

It really was a beast.

When your little brother entres the same hobbie as you

He was the best , a true legend and i believe him ! Nothing like the S1 quattro from 1983 !!!!

Michelle Mutton....hold my make up

@@k1ortia By all means, she was sometimes faster than Walter Röhrl, and he was pissed off about that.

@@tt-rs1457 Most of the Quattro Wrc team were, good for her.. not many women can Achieve that

@@tt-rs1457 yes he was !

a feminine looking hatchback is supposed to be the recreation of a legendary monster which looks and sounds intimidating when it's driving? the road version S1 doesn't even have more horsepower than the old road version sport quattro. that's just lame. if BMW made a recreation of the 860i using the i3 chassis powered by a 3cylinder engine that wouldn't count as a recreation of anything in my bookr. you just can't use a feminine looking hatchback that's driven mostly by people who give no f***s about going fast or rallying and use it to build a recreation of a group B monster. I've never even seen the road version of the S1 here in germany which sais a lot, if you see that model at all it has an economy engine in it. can't tell me a legit recreation wouldn't sell, there's a sport quattro in my neighbourhood and every enthusiast admires that one.

+アマ nothing wrong with a "feminine car", look at the Mazda MX5, one of the most fun handling cars.

+jonny j I'm not comparing the MX5 to the ur quattro at all, I'm simply pointing out that just because a car is "feminine" doesn't mean its a poor car, some of them are fun to drive, I just used the Mazda as an example of a "girly" car. fyi, the quattro is the reason I became a petrolhead, when I was a kid my dad's buddy had a short wheel base version, he took us for a drive in it which terrified me, since then I was hooked.

I see what you're saying. But the MX5 is a good car because it is a small (agile) lightweight RWD car. and if Mazda called the MX5 a recreation of the 787B then I would call bullshit on that too. just like a lotus or old racecars, if you have a driving machine then looks don't matter at all. however this S1 is probably frontwheeldrive, it's not light either and I bet it has very little in common with a drivers car. I see really shitty cars selling well because they look good, but they have built a recreation of a legend here which has nothing in common with the legend and they couldn't even do as little as making it look good. so I'm never going to like it.

アマ Get off your hogh horse and enjoy the damn cars. Who cares if the S1 Quattro looks "feminine"? It's a pretty damn impressive machine and kept up well with the Group B legend just fine. Looked quicker on one of the runs even. But just because it shares its name with an automotive icon, you're going to let your panties get twisted into a knot? Wow. OK. You know, I felt the same way about the Dodge Charger when it came back out not too long ago. Got a 5-door sedan with some lines from the late-'60s models and a V6/auto standard. Was really pissed until I realized that the economy models don't define the car (Although they do give it a bad reputation. The Challenger, Camaro and Mustang all suffer from this problem.) and, with some tuning and a little elbow grease, can kick some serious ass. No, it isn't the bland, overpriced coupé that took the rally scene by storm, but it's still impressive to see during a hillclimb. Just look past the bs and enjoy the cars.

+Wayne Moffett Audi TT DTM is also amazing.The sound of 5 cylinder is amazing,but the roar of natural aspirated V8 is hard to beat.And it's damn fast and spectacular as well.

And one point for the Group B Monster then ;)

Yeah!!

Bien sur Old school, the song is very better !!

old cars like sexy milfs... i can't resist :)))

So funny !!!

And the group b is the headmaster

im wondering too. Hard to tell from the video.

Same here

Ross Nunn the Trackspeeker say the older one drives Trackrecord jesterday

The new car looks way faster, in the corners, like 20 kph faster

jonny j what were their times?

Well, it is, since it's just a rebagged Polo

fuck you

It does! Modern cars look like toys for kids, for sizzies.. That group B Quattro is a beast, a totally fascinating and somewhat scary car. They don't make 'em like that anymore, those plastic computerboxes on wheels with their screaming little computerengines and all sorts of driver-aids that they call contemporary cars..

I'd be fine with that "shopping car", it goes quite fast !

@@renz1013 fuck yourself, pussy

TurboandStance someone did that...500 whp Lamborghini eater and looks standard.

Kinda, those kkk borgwarner turbos the ‘80s s1 has are retro af and obsolete, i doubt the new tfsi audi inline5 would have the same chatter, but yeh itll be similar

@@RealCraftIV same torque and left foot braking insanity?

@@RealCraftIV Yeah. New turbos can muffle the sound a lot but at least they're way more efficient and responsive

Mastur Binho the new one will sound better because of the amazing gearbox whining and if there would be a 5 cylinder it would sound very similar. If you put an exhaust on a 2.2 it sounds similar to a 2.5 with identical exhaust, the new ones on street sound different because of all the stuff in the exhaust ( catalytic converters and particle filters)

I agree ! With that baby you can go anywhere and it will never let you down !

Tyler Dowd You stupid "lol"

tyler FFS, their both audis, both have mad bhp, both being bullied on a rally stage, one looks like a tissue box the other looks like a bar of soap blah blah stop crying

Taylor you right. That's some different cars! And the old one is a s2.

+Tyler Dowd Then how about Schagerl's Golf 2 against Zlatkov's S1?

He can,they are similar

See the size diffrence on the wing of old quattroand new one

+Captain Sunder Engine swap and problem solved.

hillclimbracingfan That would be neat, but it would still look too disciplined. Meanwhile the Quattro S1 looks like a car that would beat you up while furiously insulting your ancestors.

+Captain Sunder Then take a look at Karl Schagerl's Golf 2,Roger Schnellmann's Lancer Evo 8 or Reto Meisel's SLK Judd V8-same can be said for them.

hillclimbracingfan Nice choice! I gotta say i have a soft spot for Evos.

+Captain Sunder Then you're gonna love Toni Bueler's procharged 800 horsepower Evo 6(ex-car of Hans Schori),Ronnie Bratschi's 600 horsepower Evo 8 and Domagoj Perekovic's 700 horsepower Evo 9.All mad and very fast.

You do realize that the Group B cars were quickly outclassed by WRC cars in the 90s? Everyone stans for these cars and acts like they're invincible, but records set by Group B cars, which were thought to be unbeatable, were quickly knocked down by 90s WRC cars.

@@thejay8963 That's comparing apples to peaches; sure more modern WRC cars were faster, due to better braking and handling, but not in shear speed. They also changed up the rallies themselves, shorter & lesser stages, less night stages and most importantly, no more public on the road. Modern WRC cars are better, but not bat-shit crazy like the Group B cars or rallye-stages themselves.

Dawwwg Online Yeah, they are, you fanboys just act like that isn’t the case. And does the extra madness matter? Why are Group B cars so much better because of their power? Rallies aren’t supposed to have big straightaways, so the power is completely useless to actually attaining good times, especially since the Group B era-AWD cars were clumsy over smooth, solid surfaces compared to even 90’s machines. The later machines used their 300+HP much better. The only reason these cars are treated like gods is because of how loud they are. And frankly, that’s a _bad_ thing, considering that all of the sound is energy wasted that could be moving the car. And how are these any more exciting than the WRC Celica, or the Polo WRC? They sound better and look cooler, but they’re pretty fuckin’ slow in an actual time trial. So really, I’m comparing Apples to old apples. Edit: how is having people getting onto the track a good thing? How are long, tiring races that put the drivers at a greater risk of fucking up better? How is more stages set in low visibility conditions, _also_ increasing the chance of drivers screwing up, memorable?

@@thejay8963 That's a lot of text to explain you don't understand things Tom .... EDIT: Or to put it differently; WRC is for boys, Group B is for men. But I'm sure the keyboard-warrior in you will try & twist it so you 'know better' than quoted multi WRC champion himself.

Dawwwg Online Wow, you called _me_ a keyboard warrior? Because you used a lot of words there to say you’re a condescending asshole.

"Aseptised?" Jesus... somebody was making use of their "Word of the Day" calendar. Happy new year!

gino delavega first they owned IMSA for.a while... Then Le Mans.

Don't forget that they owned the TransAm series too. --- what are the engineers doing since 30 years ????????????-- = trying to fix something that is not broken...

+ justin credible . you are right of course ! I was just speaking about rallying !

+Justin Credible You forgot super touring racing as well.A4 Quattro STW is one of the best race cars Audi ever made.

Hold on ...that old S1 was packing 680bhp ...but if you don't remember they stopped group B for a reason ...too much horsepower , too many accidents . So the new model couldn't possibly compare to that beast to start with ... The engineers since then are fighting with high standards , crash tests, safety, aerodynamics , braking systems , and as low consumption as possible with as high as possible efficiency ...etc etc . In other words those old beasts cannot be compared with a "smarter" vehicle from the future in any way .

I agree with that ! Best sound ever , like a furious dragon spitting fire and making the curves look like straights .

C'est typique avec les voitures modernes, elles paraissent moins impressionnantes, mais elles sont plus efficaces. Cependant, il faut noter que la nouvelle S1 était encore en phase de tests et pas à pleine puissance.

The old cars are more interesting to watch and to listen to. And yeah, require more skill. But a better racing car is a faster one. Suspension and aerodynamics are not even comparable on those two. Not to mention, the new S1 is mid-engined, so it also has a much better weight distribution. The new S1 is better, but the old S1 is the one that gives goosebumps.

afaik rallycross cars don't have traction control or any assist (powersteering, if you count that)

@@narancs5 if you like ugly and easy to drive cars, go ahead, I stay with the hard to drive oldschool madness. Modern cars will never recreate oldschool ones just because of regulations alone, not to mention skill and talent is very very VERY rare novadays in the automotive industry. Everyone is making competitors to other cars, instead of making something new, refreshing, unique.

@@waifuracer6516 You didnt understand my comment, so yours is not really a reply to mine - its just another comment to the original. To the second part: They obviously have similar talent and skill as back in the day, But the market changed a lot. They dont want to design and engineer a unique car just to see it fail in terms of sales. They cant/dont want to afford those high risk projects. The markets are overloaded, they can fall out of it pretty quickly if they have a couple cars people dont buy. ( see Mitsubishi e.g. ) P.S: I love old cars and dont like the ones after 2000, but objectively the old ones are way worse. Its just the machine-man relation and the simplicity that makes the old cars irreplaceable in our hearts.

@@waifuracer6516 The Group B track records were destroyed in the 90s by regular WRC cars. People thought those times were unbeatable, but group B cars turned out to be fat, unaerodynamic pigs compared to later WRC cars. and no matter how much you whine and scream like a child about it, a modern WRC car would Thanos snap a Group B car in a proper time trial.

+Jason Meehan New one would sound better if it's engine was modded in the way engines in some extreme hillclimb Evos are for example.Those are powerful and sound mad.So it's possible with new one too.

You drive a badass diesel

+ThePersonWithoutAName To whom you wrote that?To me or Jason?

+jonny j And why is that?

sounds like a shitty 4 cylinder, nothing will ever sound as bad ass as that 5 cylinder.

hahahahahaha that was a good one !

H A H A H A

Beinrasierer Der Audi natürlich.

Danke für den Tipp. ;) Tatsächlich war der alte S1 im ersten Lauf 2sec schneller, im zweiten fast zeitgleich. (Dank an Herrn Google)

dann hat sich doch mal das optisch ansprechendere ueber das aerodynamische durch gesetzt :)

You know man, i will take that joke... But yeah the old one for me is a masterpiece and better.

This one specifically? For me, yes. This one, however, looks beautiful for me and is powerful and fast as hell: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XgrZgzodyDc.html. The older one looks like crap for me, I don't like that kind of sound, and doesn't is as fast as the modern cars, and that means that it doesn't puts drivers' brain at enormous stress as the moderns do when actually competing: car-controlling is a sixth sense; racing is not (modern racing is more about reflexes/reaction/precision/etc. than car-controlling, while older racing was 50-50 or something like that. They're both hard; they're just different). But, hey, it's all about subjectivity.

Ro De should've said Stig Blomqvist but I see what you did there

even Stig Blomqvist is a good example from "The Old School", like many other from the 1980´s

Lancia > Audi , RWD> AWD

yeah, you tend to get it right after you kill s few drivers and a co driver

Well, I can't wait to see what new high performances we'll get with avanced technology !

CyaanGhoost opinions are opinions, but nahhh

CyaanGhoost ModernRx based one feels like it might become one of hillclimb legends.There sure is great potential.

but looks & sounds crap.

+fishbmw With time,it might evolve into something like Schagerl's Golf 2,which looks,goes and sounds like it came out from Group B era.

Look : Group B sound: Group B speed: Modern