This is the first time I have ever heard a reviewer mention insurance. thats amazingly practical useful information. and its next level effort to obtain that..
Just drove our 2023 RS etron GT from Ireland to Sicily and back. The car was excellent - comfortable, surefooted, and fast when you needed it. The total distance was 7500 km with an average consumption rate of 4.5 Km/Kwh (with the boot and frunk full of luggage). The total consumption cost was €425 with an Audi Charge Pro card. Predominantly used ABRP, the car and Audi app maps with Google maps also running. None are perfect but they all worked generally well. Had one close call when a charger was not working and I only had 15 km in available charge, while the next charger was 26 Km away. We made it, doing the last 10 Km showing zero KM remaining and very little power. Note: all the apps indicated that the charger was working and other EV's also came along looking to charge as their apps also indicated a good charger.
Picked up my RS back in December. Range, when it was cold, obviously it’s lower than stated, 100% charge gave me around 230 range; now in the summer months that’s up to 290. Not had to charge externally. 0-60, I have clicked mine at 2.9 rather than the stated 3.3. And in dynamic, if you need to overtake anything on the country roads, this is an absolute brute. I prefer it over the Tycan but that’s my opinion, a lot less on the road which I like. Only car I have had people taking videos of at traffic lights or on the motorway. The downside, insurance is steep, especially if you want proper like for like insurance. The second thing, despite having a tracker, Audi’s own tracking system, and a disc-stop lock, I have already had some visitors in the night that tried to block my wifi system….! Audi know where you are at all times in this car…! Solar panels and Octopus intelligent charging is the answer - less than £3 for a charge….!
I picked my RS up in December and have had exactly the same experience. Was worried about the range when it was cold but now the battery and range are better than I could ever have hoped. As for the car, its incredible and has exceeded all expectations and have had nothing but compliments. Amazing to look and and drive whilst brutally fast when you want it to be, what more could you possibly want.
Question about the range: are that 230 and 290 figures in miles or kilometers? If they're in kilometers, I'd be concerned. If they're in miles, then I'm stoked.
We have a 2023 e-tron GT in Ascari Blue. It is stunning and drives SO well. Unfortunately, ours has spent almost as much time in the dealership than on the road due to technical and safety issues. We've experienced brake booster failure twice and the dealership cannot adequately repair the safety issue, after having the car for almost 1 month now. We hope that Audi Canada sorts these things out - and that we get to enjoy our new car safely. Anyone in the UK experiencing similar brake system failure?
@@JWL-UK Greetings, JWL. TMCU = Telematics Control Unit. This is what allows the car to communicate with web-based services such as Weather and News, and, more importantly, the MyAudi App. A connection to the MyAudi app is essential for some remote-activated features. MMI = Multi Media Interface, in other words, the infotainment system. LTE is commonly called ‘4G’ - it is the mobile network protocol. Depending on the country, the TMCU communicates via a mobile network provider such as Bell, Verizon, etc. Hope that helps.
Have had a 22’ Prem GT for two years. Love the car,happy with the pick, but it has had some software glitches. Telsa was never on my short list. Picked GT over Taycan mostly based on look inside and out. Not a fan of Taycan screens and button or the general interior design. Don’t get me wrong. I agree it’s built slightly different on purpose with better performance and stiffer suspension.
Brilliant video as always from Rory. Thanks so much for the info on the insurance - stuff like this is really useful to viewers but most reviewers dont bother.
@@luciengranger2762 Facts, maybe, but not necessarily relevant ones. As a motoring journo, Rory will be whacked for his insurance - he's what the insurers deem "a moral hazard".
One of my fellow doctors that graduated from residency the year before I did, went from an A5 to an etron GT. I went from a series to an i4. Still have the 3 though
I drive an SQ8 and aside from showing a passenger how it works, I never use the 3D camera. E-Tron GT is one of the better looking EVs out there, but the range is a nonstarter for me.
SQ8 owner myself. I find myself using the 3D Camera fairly often. Tight parking spots, high curbs and so on and so forth. It mightr be a gimmick, but a good one in my opinion nonetheless.
I am thinking about buying an A8L 60 TFSI with the same engine, albeit a bit less powerful (453bhp vs 500bhp). Anything I need to worry about with the powertrain?
Dear Rory! I own an E-Tron RS GT by mid January 2023 and actually I'm amazed by all the quality of this car! You explained so weel in this video and in the previous I saw and I really appreciate Your work. But I noticed You didn't mention the enormous consumption of the TYRES... I actually made 10.000KM and I ordered a new set of TYRES today in the afternoon... I am absolutely careful driving it and I really can be called the "capitan slow" of my family. But going fast or slow in this particular car didn't help me from the fact that it weights a lot and TYRES will literally melt under his weight... Looking forward for Your next video! Keep up the good work!
Must be the condition of your roads and temps as I too have an RS GT, nearing 14,000 miles on the clock and the Goodyears it came with still have over 4mm tread on them and I don't drive Miss Daisy! I did however have it aligned shortly after taking delivery, it's a common theme these aren't aligned well from factory, common symptom being inner shoulder wear
@@graemecollie9233 thanks for the feedback! My front tyres are consumed on the outer borders. I will go to checkup then. I will let You know the results.
Great review, Rory! Thank you for pointing out all the issues. I live in a large city in mainland Europe, and I have no chance of charging up overnight. I'd be fully dependable on the public charger network, which is very costly.... Considering buying an EV is much, much more expensive than the comparable ICE (take the new BMW 5, for example), it simply does not make any monetary sense. Then - as you said - you pay a hefty insurance premium because it's super expensive to get your EV fixed should there be a collision. All things considered the market is not yet there.
Love your videos sir! I’m US based. Have had a 22’ Prem GT for two years. It’s my daily driver. Love the car,happy with the pick, but it has had some software glitches. Telsa was never on my short list. Picked GT over Taycan mostly based on look inside and out. Not a fan of Taycan screens and button or the general interior design. Don’t get me wrong. I agree it’s built slightly different on purpose with better performance and stiffer suspension.
Dodgy MacDonald's diet aside (dude... it's your health, man...!) this is a great review. I particularly appreciated the range-per-charge vs driving hours comparison... SOoooo many people claim, "I'm not having an EV unless it can do the 600 miles my diesel can do on a tank...!" And my reply...? "So, how regularly do you drive the near-10 hours trip from London to Inverness... without stopping, of course...???" Some people are just muppets...!! 🤣
The insurance quoted here is probably because he's a journalist. I've had an RS etron GT for a month got it new and I got my insurance quote from Audi Insurance, I'm paying £1200 a year for fully comp insurance which is only a little bit more than I pay for my Q8. It's a fantastic car, great fun and very comfortable. Charges like lightening provided you tell the nav you're going to a charger so it preconditions the battery on its way to the charger. Range might be less than other EV's but more than made up for by the fun you have just being behind the wheel
One thing to note is that audi's charge planner is only available with their own GPS, and it's honestly pretty crap (at least in the Q4 e-tron). It will sometimes to idiotic things like tell you to stop and charge at a super slow charger for 12 hours for no real reason. At least it's fairly decent at predicting range in my experience, as long as you're consistent in your driving, so you can plan your journey yourself through suggested chargers.
Not a chance does Rory read this, but that made me smile when talking about the 'front storage'...... I was just waiting for the F word, just waiting! You're messing with my head now!!! 🤣🤣
Its absolutely bonkers that it costs £7 to charge at home and £70 on the road. I used to get the hump with a 10-15p per litre hike on petrol at the services 🤣
@@Nomoreranch0 you're right, it's not gonna be £7, even on an overnight tariff you wont get that rate for the 9 hours it takes to charge the car. Current prices are around 35p/kw give or take and at ~85 KWH thats £30 to fully charge at home on a standard tariff. That's IF you can charge at home and don't live in an area with no off street parking or an apartment block. And to get only 2m/kw that's 17.5p/mile, on par if not more expensive than many ICE vehicles. and at the 79p that shell are charging it's bonkers 40p/mile. If you are on a company car reimbursement scheme you're only going to get 9p/mile. EV is a joke right now honestly. I am glad Rory touched on it but it really needs more magnification from car reviewers
I originally ordered a taycan, but dealer malfeasance led me stone the audi. I love this car. puts a smile on my face every day. i charge at home but on the road, it charges at 260 kW until it reaches about 70% and it tapers from there. About 30 minutes to 80% from 5. i like the interior better than the taycan, including the controls. the cachet of aa porsche is missed, but the experience in the audi negates that. agree with most everything in the vid.
May be a real world drive - but paying £115,000 for the car and then another 2.5k for insurance means it is about as relevant to the average person as owning the space shuttle. Add in the restriction of not being able to go very far before you have to stop for an hour or so to charge if you are lucky and what you have here is a solution to a problem no one has at an exorbitant price.
Audi RS e-Tron GT is one of Audi's best cars they hav ever made ,,i think this is the first audi thats electric,,i like the way he reviewed this car talking bout everything
Great review as always, other than What kind of absolute savage drives for four hours without stopping?! being an ex-Top Gear presenter and motoring journalist probably doesn’t help with the insurance 😉
Starts.. starts at £86K.. The average UK salary is around £33K. Before income tax obvs. The drive to EV is pushing the average Brit to the ICE which, as we know is theorically what they the Government and your local London mayor don't want. Unless of course the UN and your mayor just want fewer people driving at all. After all who needs to drive when you have a 15min city.......
It's not quite a "dream" car, in that there are models I'd want more. Since money is not actually infinite however, this is pretty much a dream car that I might actually be able to have. I just love it. I probably shouldn't watch videos about it honestly, can just hear my finance guy groaning.
On short journeys (under 5 miles) you will only get 1.8 mi/kWh but once you drive further the return improves. Sticking to speed limits I get 3.0 mi/kWh on motorways. Best yet was 3.5 mi/kWh on fast A road/ dual carriageway journey of 50miles. Position of charging port is annoying though. Some Tesla stations are open to non-Tesla drivers but you take up 2 charge lanes - try to ignore the Tesla drivers moaning about “typical Audi driver”
Great car(although still haven't got my head round non ice cars just yet lol),and great review.ill never ever ever,be able to afford such a vehicle in my wildest dreams,but,such a succinct,informative and to the point review as always, think Rory has got to be one of the best car reviewers and knowledgeable *"petrol", heads on the Internet these days,and as always,presented with humour and a smile...Great work mate,more of the same please!.😁💯👍...
Great review of a highly desirable car. Most people can't afford one so we have to put our hopes on the upcoming VW EV that's supposed to be less than 30K. Can't wait for that one.
Ok, 1st world problem but I really don’t like that they’ve removed the RS button on the steering wheel. I had a RSQ8 and having the RS button on the wheel made it so much easier (with less distraction) to change driving modes. I ended up going for a Taycan Turbo solely due to this. The position of the drive selector is low and quite far to the left (for RH drive countries). Missed opportunity in my opinion…. (Yep, 1st world problem indeed)
I’m glad he gave the driving round town figure. Carwow always driving cars on the motorway till they stop. Give me the school run and football run all in one day. Real world for the person in town.
79 for a charge? I have a Q4 etron over here in the states and just ‘filled up’ for 9 bucks on the same rapid charger. Me thinks Shell might be taking the piss and making a profit.
A/T. Do love the dual charge ports on both sides of this sports luxury Audi ! Can they accept A.C. and D.C. current when recharging simultaneously with the european 900 Volt architecture ? V.
70 quid to rapid charge it? how is that bloody possible? what is the current rate of a kw in the UK? I know in the states, it is around .08 to .13 cents a kwh
It’s never mentioned in *any* e-vehicle review…does playing the sound system very loud for long periods incur noticeable drain on the battery, or do they limit the sound system by using small subwoofers or less powerful speakers?
Fuel price"Gouging" is still alive and well in the UK then! In New Zealand Shell was rebranded as "Z" a few years ago. "Z" has settled on a nation-wide price of NZD0.69 (GBP0.33) per kWh. Sounds Great!... but wait... there is not one Z station within usable distance that actually has a charger! I've got the app, but nowhere to use it 👎 🤬 All is not lost though; There are alternatives offered by ChargeNet (and others). My local ChargeNet costs NZD0.40 (GBP0.19) per kWh! 😄 Pretty hard to justify the price Rory encountered... that's more than four times more expensive, perhaps the UK uses Premium grade volts, with anti-knock additives?!
Nice video, thanks. Just one question though... why did they install 2 charging ports, separating AC and DC charging? Is there a benefit to it? Because if not... it just seems unnecessary.
AC both sides, DC just on the passenger side. It's nice, but not that important really. The better question is: why did they put them where they did, rather than at the front or rear of the car? Really inconvenient at a lot of chargers as the charge port is quite a long way from the charger, unless you can park next to it. It means you need to drive in front-first at most charger bays and the cable only just reaches. Taycan is the same.
Confused by the maths resulting in a cost of £7 to recharge at home. (Rory at 13:45). My electricity provider charges about 30p/kWh, let's assume that is representative. So to charge this car's battery (call it 90kW) from 0% to 100% would cost 90 x 0.3 = £27, which much more than the £7 Rory states. Otherwise I really enjoyed this video, definitely an interesting and cool car.
There's 85kWh usable / chargeable on the RS / eTron GT and the pricing is based on Octopus energy or the like with discounted charging tariff for a set period of time overnight which used to be around 12-15p/kWh. Most providers quote cost based on charging between 20-80% which is about 45-50kW which then comes in around £7.
These mi/kWh figures are DIRE. I have a 2017 i3 I can still get close to 5 mi/kWh from in town use (and most of my driving)- similar to a model 3 efficiency. We have a Q7 we use occasionally only for long journeys - which will get about 36mpg and 500+ miles of range. I’m consistently told I would ‘want to stop at a service station anyway’ but honestly - no! I’ll happily smash through hours and hours of consistent travel in the Q7 - surely this GT car should be hitting a design target of luxury long range efficiency?? 160 miles at 2mi/kWh makes this look a lazy effort to me
Why is everyone nowadays comparing results on the motorway going off 60mph average speed (to bump up theur numbers) The motorway is 70mph, its getting increasingly bad with people sitting in middle AND right lane doing 60mph even some below that, as if its the norm, can we just cut that out ?
Wow so it costs 80 to fill up an electric battery at charging station now. What's that price going to be like once the ban on gas engines go into effect and the electric demand goes up? This electric everything push will have disastrous results
I remember watching a prototype of this car being driven with by car journalists with police escorts. Now it's here beautifully crafted, just expensive
Not sure about your sums for home charging, Rory. If it's £70 to charge at the rapid charger and they're charging 79p/kWh, then some simple maths would say that being able to do the same at home for £7 would mean a unit cost of just 7.9p/kWh. Not sure you'll find any suppliers who would give you electricity quite so cheaply any more, even on an overnight EV rate. I believe Octopus will offer just under 10p/kWh, but only for 4 hours overnight, and your 'normal' rate for the rest of the day (20 hours) then goes up so significantly that it makes your fridge/cooker/TV etc. become prohibitively expensive. And 4 hours isn't long enough to give a full charge anyway. It is still possible to find some cheap(ish) charging methods - there are a few 'free' chargers around, although they're often limited times, such as the one in a shopping centre near me that is free to charge, but only 7.4kW AC charging and you're only allowed to stay 2 hours (but then so is everyone who uses that car park, not just EVs). Still free miles though, happy days!
