I couldn't find this full scene anywhere, and I couldn't actually record it either! This is the final scene in season 6 with Bojack and Diane up on the roof. Enjoy!
"That was never your job." "Then why did you always make me feel like it was?" That feels too fucking real when you know someone who has used suicide to emotionally blackmail you more than once
And I know it replying to my own comment but this made me really think about long my life I know it was sure I only live for at least 16 years of my life but during those 16 years of my damn life I thought about it I thought who I am and I figured I'm a lion scumbag who needs Adderall for the rest of my life. Not only that I'm scared of the future and my mother says don't be scared you'll be fine it's like she doesn't know about the struggles that I have and some of the struggles that she doesn't even know that I had... I guess you can say nice a bitch and there's only one way to get out You live old or you can die young I choose to live old see where it takes me at least
I've listened to this three times now and that's what I just realized makes this, especially without the visuals, so amazing. It doesn't seem like acting. Their voices here, especially Bojack's, make it seem like we're witnessing the real lives of two people.
That ending is a pregnant silence. "This is nice" implies that it's something that is currently happening and could continue to happen, but the silence says "no, this *was* nice. Now it's done."
DoU Valakhit? Because Diane would always self indulge Bojack in to making bad choices. They literally bring the worse of each other when together. For Bojack’s sake I hope they won’t see each other again
@@jahn77 but isnt it working other way around? Its Bojack who always includes Diane every time he want her to be arounf when he fucked up. Like even when she was away he always calls, comes and asks for something. Bojack was a piece of shit before her, Diane wasn't
I think it shows how much he matured throughout the show, that he didn’t beg for her forgiveness like he did with Herb. He accepted that she’d never really forgive him, and he just appreciated their final night together.
I also really like how he didn’t end it on a sad note, but how he made an effort for both of them to feel good about each other (sort of), by ending everything on a funny story. That’s actually nice of him in a way.
We see how much he's matured, but the crux of the whole episode is everyone's looming awareness that he's just as capable then as he's ever been of doing terrible things, of fully relapsing into his worst self. Several characters throughout the show, including Diane, have expressed the need to get away from Bojack and the part of themselves that resonates with him. The finale represents a moment in time where those characters have the clarity and resolve to express that to him directly and set those boundaries, and Bojack has the clarity and humility to respect that. "You never get a happy ending, cause there's always more show. I guess until there isn't." The characters that put up boundaries in the finale between themselves and Bojack in this episode, with varying degrees of reluctance, do so knowing that if they meet him again in the near future it'll almost certainly be because they've relapsed in their healing, or Bojack has - realistically, it's more likely to be the latter - and whichever it is will likely take the other down with them. A happy ending, for any of these characters, means successfully actively resisting their unhealthy habits and coping mechanisms every day for the rest of their natural lives.
@@Sammie_Sorrelly sometimes i wonder why people don't just make their own comment when they clearly want to express their own thoughts instead of replying to sth another person said
I love how Diane shut Bojack down when he tried to throw his emotional labor onto her. Maybe it's harsh to say this, but unloading on someone like that without warning and expecting them to take the time to help you through it is insensitive. I'm glad they showed her setting a boundary.
It's not harsh. I've done that before to a lesser extent, and I don't blame people for pulling away. Boundaries are very valuable and need to be enforced no matter what.
I think it's just because he does it so often. If a friend is in need and does that then it doesn't take much out of you to give them an ear or emotional support. It's not hard to do, it's friendly, and it's worth more to them than it costs you as long as they're not emotionally dependent on you. But if someone becomes emotionally dependent on you - that's what's toxic. And she's started to realise that she does have a toxic relationship with him and he looks to her way too much for validation and emotional support etc. Plus the fact he tried to make her responsible for his life - in a literally sense. that if he died it would be her fault. so that's very obviously a very toxic relationship. I think it's just striking a balance between being there for someone you care about and not allowing that person to suck the life source out of you - especially if they have a narcy/ codependent personality
Eh. I don’t think Bojack was trying to work through anything actually. He just wanted Diane to respect his decision. I don’t think he regretted horny unicorn. It was basically his only option after the world cancelled him. Vance was a bad dude but at least he gave Bojack some reason for optimism
I need more shows like this. Where everything isn't a happy ending and the character suffers real life consequences for his actions. It makes me feel less alone.
Breaking Bad? I haven't finished it, but the protagonist is similarly 'divisive' as almost everyone considers him selfish + a bad person, but we still kind of root for him finally finding peace.
orange is the new black is good if u want to have a realistic but also VERY hard ending to characters. it features a lot of diff characters and bruh i didnt expect it to go this way but at the end its the most realistic
I love how Diane didn’t respond to Bojacks “this is nice”. She knows that any positive affirmation will make him step back, make him think that he’s okay and doesn’t have to keep trying. She knows him better than anyone. And she knows this IS the final goodbye. It has to be.
wouldn't make sense for her to respond since she was the one who said the night was nice first. plus she had already tried to leave the roof but waited for bojack to finish his story
i found another reason why diane still needs to cjt out bojack and its written here geniusly "i don't wanna lie to you it's only kinda funny" "prison riot." "oh shit really?" "no, ...." he lied after even though its a joke he is still a bit toxic
It's sad how Diane didn't need the phone at all just to tell BoJack his entire voicemail means how his 'last' words struck Diane so much even for a long time.
@@driver_4151 they’re saying that Diane was able to repeat what BoJack said without even using her phone, showing how well she could remember what he said in his voicemail.
The series begins and ends with Bojack and Diane’s relationship. Literally. They meet at the end of the pilot, and the end of this final episode marks the end of their association, for better or worse. Obviously the show became much more than that, but I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this structure was in place. One of the most carefully constructed shows I’ve ever seen, and one of my two favourite shows ever.
I love the parallel, the ending of the first season was the two of them talking on the rooftop and Diane said she wished she had her phone cause she never knows what to do with her hands at parties, BoJack quotes her in this finale scene at the rooftop. Man the follow through of the show is amazinggg
Their relationship was obviously toxic, they did bring out the worst in each other, but I still think it was the most genuine in the show. The fact that they can only let each other go once they assure that they’ll be okay on their own shows how much they simply cared and deep down just wanted to look after each other. Rarely a show’s most emphasized relationship is one of the most appreciated in the fandom, utmost admiration to the show runners for nailing the dynamics.
@AtlasBlizzard Not always like in part 1 of the final season Bojack went to Diane during her low point and depression and cleaned her house and helped reinvigorate belief in herself. It was a sweet
"I think there are people that help you become the person that you end up being, even if they weren't meant to be in your life forever." As someone who has also cut out toxic people, this line really resonated with me. Despite you not talking to a certain person anymore, you have still learned from them- even if that lesson was what not to be and that getting them out of your life helped you better yourself
As a negative and toxic person, this audio hits me hard. It's Like hearing what most of my good friends say about me but in more straightforward ways. It's a good thing that they cut me off, I hope their lives are much better now.
i hope you find a way to better yourself and work through what you've been dealing with. you owe it to yourself and those that were in your life not to wallow in self pity but to keep trying. and just know that nobody owes you forgiveness, but don't let that stop you from forgiving yourself when it's right.
I just realized that this scene is very similar to his reunion with Herb. At first there's a lot of bitterness and awkwardness, which eventually culminates in a more casual conversation and humorous anecdotes, ending in a heartfelt admission about enjoying each other's company ("It was good to see you again, BoJack"/"It's a nice night, huh?"). The main difference is that unlike what happened with Herb, BoJack doesn't try to force Diane to forgive him. He lets her go, as uncomfortable as it is and as hard as it will be to lose her. He understands that he was a toxic person in her life and as much as they'll miss each other, she's better off without him and he respects that. His flaws are still very present even in this scene, but it's amazing how much he's grown since Season 1.
“I am glad you are alive” “I am too.” It is a simple line but it shows how much Bojack has grown and even though he knows he has done bad things, he deserves to be alive and deserves to be happy.
A part of me wants to share this with people who dismiss this show because it's animated. That maybe if they heard how fantastic this scene is they'd give this show a chance. But I also feel the full weight of this moment is lost if you don't experience everything that came before it first.
Man, animation will always be my preferred media. Tbh, I hate when people say “I can’t believe a cartoon about an animated horse is the best written series I’ve ever seen.” Why? Because animation is.. less? And you were surprised the writers actually cared about the script of an animated show? It makes me mad
@@Juliana-du3kk I used to be one of those annoying people with an unfair prejudice against animation. I thought it was childish but it's not like that at all, and in fact, can be powerful as fuck. I came to realize that after watching Bojack and ever since I've been trying to get others to realize this as well by recommending Bojack to them. I can't wait to explore the more incredible things animation has to offer.
Honestly Ive never seen bojack, I've been warned against watching it because I deal with a variety of mental health issues and my friends don't want to trigger anything but I've slowly been watching scenes from the show and I can tell you this moment is still pretty powerful on its own. Very rarely do I see a show that can convey mental illness so well and make conversations so real. What hits the hardest Is the line where bojack tells diane his happiness doesn't depend on her and she questions why he always acted like it did.
@@jazmyndebono4927 same, I haven't watched the show but I've been watching clips of it, yet even without context this audio choked me up. I can tell that in its original context, I'd probably sob my eyes out.
@@nobodyimportant4778 Yea but the audio might make you think engagement right? She said she trusted him, you don't say that about an ex, you would say it about a fiance
can't believe some hated on diane so hard... diane was such a raw, complex and relatable character. sure she was annoying at times but had such introspective moments and dropped so many gems through the series that really helped me grapple with my depression "Sometimes life's a bitch and you just keep living"
Ppl hated her hypocrisy and lack of accountability when she did shitty things. But admittedly by this point. I think most ppl came around and saw she was a person growing hampered in a toxic environment.
Sometimes you are the person to cut off and other times you’re the person doing the cutting. Both are a lesson. I don’t know you, but I was in a similar position as you not long ago, and I just want to say that all you can do is to keep giving your life meaning... and honestly your comment made me smile because it seems like you’re doing just that. Best of luck to you.
Deciblaze yah it stung at the time but I needed that . like Diane there are people who will help you in your life even if they won’t be in your life forever.
Same here. But I now realize our friendship was kind toxic. She's happy now and I am too, but I sometimes hate the idea of not having her in my life anymore. On the bright side, I am a better person now.
The same thing happened to me with my best friend of ten years, after we tried dating each other. Twice. The second time, it occurred to her that I had been belittling her emotions and making her feel like she was obligated to stay with me. I, in turn, realized that she was right and that I was too emotionally stunted to realize what I had been doing all those years. So we broke up, and she cut ties with me. It's been a little over nine months now. Miss you, Ellie. And if you're reading this, I'm sorry.
So much emotion in silence like you can feel the pain and love in their voices. They do admire each other's company it's like two broken records who understand each other. But their chapter is over time to move on and be better because they can bring out the worst in each other.
You know, the way you say "two broken records who understand each other" reminds me a lot of that time when Bojack talked about his family and said that sometimes, they all understood they were drowning
That last "this is nice" always breaks me. Like I feel I've said it too before, kinda begging that moment lasted forever, but knowing nothing lasts forever and eventually the moment will be over. Short and bittersweet, like a cigarette.
I used to be a toxic person and a bad friend. 3 years ago, those people cut me off and every day I lived in regret, mourning their loss and lack of presence in my life. While I was in a mutually toxic relationship and hanging around with an abusive person, I can't deny my actions were mine and mine alone. I've since cut both people out of my life and while things have been better, I still mourn the loss of those I hurt. But what's done is done, and they have every right to not forgive me. All I need to do now is go forward. In any case, Bojack Horseman is an impactful show. While I relate to Bojack in having severe depression.. I hope to never become like him.
I had a similar experience with two friends i lost due to a massive mental decline four years ago. Suffice to say that, and I hope this is ok, that you telling your story is comforting to me. I believe i'm getting better, and i hope you are too. Still having problems now and again but... less frequent... I sent a message to those people at the beginning of this year to say i was sorry, but also to say thank you. Thank you for all those times they were patient, how they helped me grow and change. I never got a reply, but I never expected one... I was a monster after all. I don't know if that was a correct choice, but at least i reached out... and i thanked them. They weren't suppose to be in my life forever, and i loved them very much. It is because of that loss that I strive to be better
This comment made me feel so much less alone. I feel such intense guilt for the things I did to my old friends years ago. Knowing how much I am hurting right now because of how I grew up, knowing that I ever made anyone feel like that makes me so incredibly sad. Admitting your faults is a sign of growth and it’s a sign of maturing, and I am proud of you for being able to admit that. Thank you for sharing this comment. As people, we are always changing, but it sounds like we are both changing for the better. I hope you are doing well in these trying times. ❤️
In retrospect, this is such a SATISFYING catch 22. They spent the whole show on a FAKE "will they or won't they". The show pretended to develop a relationship when in reality they already had one. That relationship being that they were both stunted people who never really grew up past a certain age, and so felt left behind and alienated. They resolved to help each other out out of mutual understanding. A bromance basically. And that bromance built on not having a place in the world came with a catch. If one of them ever found what they were looking for, it falls to the other to respect it. In this case, she knows she can't stick around anymore, and he knows that she found something that you just can't interfere with.
I feel like I am a Diane in someone's life. When I watched this episode, it hit home than most of the other episodes, and honestly, I had an attack. I explained to this individual, that this was what they put me through, and just based on this scene alone, they seemed to understand. I love this scene, and this show. It put into words and scenarios what I couldn't.
@@cristobalbarahonaarias5381 Same. Made me realize my past isn’t excuse to be a jackass. This show made me confront myself and become stronger for it. But let me tell ya, it hurt.
I've always admired the writing of the show but just hearing the dialogue and seeing it written with no accompanying visuals has made me appreciate it so much more. Jesus, the dialogue is so fucking natural. This honestly sounds like a real conversation and the voice acting is so incredible. Most shows usually use the series finale as a way to go out with a bang, but BoJack ended the whole series on a still shot of two characters sat in silence as they realised that this would be the last time they ever spoke, and I couldn't imagine a more perfect ending for the show.
I would argue that Charlotte is just as complex, it's just that her complexities don't challenge Bojack. She clearly has a complicated emotional life and a lot of issues, between her regret over the incident with Penny and just being around Bojack in general, but we only see them together a few times when she's completely matured so it's hard to feel how her complexities are directly linked to Bojack, whereas Diane interacts with him so often specifically at his lowest, that we see the pain and struggle every single time.
I love that Diane assures Bojack for the final time that "it is going to be ok"...you can tell she still cares for him but, for her own growth as a humans sake, she needs to let him go...it's crushing but neither of them are going to be the people they can be while together.
I have so many praises for this scene, but something about him telling a story that's "only kinda funny" really hits home in a painfully real way. The last time you hung out with a person who isn't in your life anymore never felt like a Last Time; it was ordinary and probably a little boring and forgettable. Because you didn't know it was the last time at the time.
In my perspective this is just a way for them to actually enjoy their last final moment. Like diane is getting up and leaving and bojack just wants to talk to her again in a casual way, he just wants to tell her a silly story to feel like he used to felt all of the pasts years when they were friends. Diane listens and for a single minute, theyre the closest friends in the entire planet like they used to be. And when the conversation ends and one of them has to leave and say "goodbye" none of them wants to do it, they want to stay friends forever but it isnt possible, they have to stand up and leave the other behind, in their past. Im glad the show ended with both of them struggling to stand up, its symbolic and its perfect
@@narutojaja111I really didn't read it that way at all. She did get up, she only stuck around to humor him, she even sounds annoyed by it. Dianne moved on a long time ago. Bojack is on his way there, but he's still really insecure. Their wordless last moment is sweet, but Dianne's already accepted that this is probably the last time they'll ever speak. Bojack is only realizing that in the moment. They're both mourning the end of a friendship, they're just in different stages of it.
5:31 the moment when Bojack realised that this is the last conversation with Diane ever... This moment broke my heart because you can feel the pain and satisfaction of this goodbye
Bojack says "I'm sorry" multiple times to her, and she doesn't forgive him. This is like the same thing with what happened with Herb, but he accepts her decision to move on from him. It shows growth in his character, because he didn't accept Herb's decision not to forgive him, and ended their relationship on a bad note.
5:16 my former best friend tole me a few months ago that she wanted to stop being friends, she met new people and didn’t really have any interest in me anymore even though we knew each other for almost 7 years. I was really sad at first but now I look at our friendship kinda like this, we had a great time knowing each other and sulking about that being over isn’t gonna help. I don’t know if we’re ever gonna be friends again and I’m okay with that, life is too short to put energy to stuff like that and I really think this episode showed that. You can stop being friends with someone but till liking that person, it’s ok. I don’t know why I wrote this rant lmao, thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Same with me. At first I was always crying and upset as I was never good at making friends, and she was the only friend I had for 8 years. As time went on, I accepted it and instead of looking back and being sad, I look back at the memories we had and am grateful of the friendship we once had. It takes time but in the end, it gets better
@@liouxcifer Saw your comment now, glad my comment helped you and I hope that youre doing better now or that youll be doing better soon. Take care of yourself :)
I found this video recently and just found this comment. Its really, really funny because I'm going through the exact same thing as of the moment with being friends with someone for 7 years and I'm struggling with thinking and trying to come to terms that I might lose my friend of 7 or so years for.. maybe a really long time because I'm the one who set my foot down when that friend kept comparing to other people theyve met and keep reminding me how they've ranked me lower in their friends list because I guess Im boring and disconnected from them now and they keep lashing out at me over their own failed relationship but I really.. really realized that that kind of treatment didnt sit right with me. I thought I did something wrong. That I was a the problem. But nah, I did all that I can by being honest and upfront. They just didnt cooperate and dismissed it. Your comment helps me and a lot of other people, too. Thanks, buddy.
An underrated part of this ending is that Bojack subtly gives Diane permission to finally let him go. The whole time you can tell shes ready to walk away crying because making that choice is very painful for her and knowing that her last memory of Bojack is an emotionally taxing one probably doesn't help either. And then Bojack tells her his funny story. Its only kinda funny, but its funny in the ways only he and Diane really understand and Bojack makes Diane laugh. Bojack gave Diane the relief she needed to finally let him go and interestingly he did it through being entertaining. I guess at the end of the day, its nothing but heartwarming that her last memory of Bojack is him comforting her like he used to on Horsin Around all those years ago. And I hope Bojack is very proud of that, that was the most selfless thing he could do for someone he hurt so much.
As sad as it is, I like to imagine that Bojack frequently forgets or doesn't realize he genuinely is a talented actor and knows how to uplift people through entertainment. It's definitely not a coincidence that he's frequently responsible for some of the best incidental humor in the series which was his bread and butter in Horsin' Around.
I love how “I wanted to talk to you” is used twice, once in a seemingly normal way, then again when BJ tries to explain why he called her. It really highlights how BJ seems charming at first, but he has a tendency to drag people down
idk what to say, I now understand that they relationship was kinda toxic and it's for the best for diane. But their relationship is what sell me on the show (diane is my favorite character). I wished they could stay friend. I'm sad
True, it happened to me too, I remember being scared that after one of their fights Diane would stop showing up in the episode's intro. Diane and Mr Peanutbutter appearing in the pool every episode made me feel kinda safe tbh
@@roadkill5727 no, they understand it fine. They just want the ideal to be real. Who doesn't ? They want a happy ending even if they know it's better not to have one
2:45 - 2:54 Bojack: "I'm sorry." Diane: "I wish I could've been the person you thought I was, the person who would save you." Bojack: "That was never your job." Diane: "Then *why* did you *always* make me feel like *it was?*" This ties back into this show's and Diane's entire theme of "your responsible for your own happiness" and why relying on others to be the ones to do it for you *all the time* is bad. There's a reason why she emphasized *always* when she told that to him, because that amount of pressure is not good for anyone and it makes life hard for everyone involved for doing so. Then comes the hardest part, cutting yourself off from someone you know isn't really THAT bad of a person, but their behavior and terrible decisions is just too much and too draining to keep hanging around them and if they crossed a line while doing so it's better to let go of them. But I think what makes it interesting is that Diane and Bojack decide on how their relationship should end and affect them in the long run. And if you're looking for the subtle cues that show has been trying to teach you, you can see that.
Whenever I slept over my exes house, we’d play this audio to fall asleep to because it was dark and we loved Bojack Horseman. Looking back, this audio hauntingly beautifully predicted our entire relationship and it’s demise. I was so much like Bojack without the drugs. I was a narcissist, I was controlling, I was manipulative. I came from a broken home with a family who I never thought loved me. I loved my ex so much but I couldn’t stop hurting her and myself, similar to Bojack and Diane. She finally let me go, and realized that it wasn’t her job to fix me or change me. She’s moved on and I’m so happy for her, I just can’t help but think about the nights we’d listen to this audio together, that was ultimately predicting our fate.
That is eerily beautiful. And im glad you were able to recognize your issues. As a Diane type of girl with a bojack type of ex boyfriend i know what you mean. I know this scene by heart and sometimes when Im really frustrated and angry at the shitty things my ex has done and still does (he hasn't recognized his mistakes or changed in any way) i come to this audio and i speak along to Diane's part and just let all my emotions out. Its so helpful for me so i like knowing that someone else also finds this kind of peace in this scene
@@hanamiiiii7044 Thank you for your response. As someone in the opposite situation, it hurts so bad that I can’t show her my progress and how much I actually changed because she will never forget about the way I used to be. Sometimes you just have to accept that the best way to show someone you changed is to move on. I hope one day your ex can come to terms with how he treated you. I’m sure subconsciously he regrets it.
I put off watching the final season for a while, and when I finally did, my chest tightened at the memory of cutting ties with someone I considered a close friend. It was for the best, hearing Bojack and Diane just telling each other everything they needed to say, and not having anything left to say after hit home. And it hit harder, knowing that the last conversation I had with said former friend was during the night as well. There really are people who come into your life and help you become the person you end up being, and you can be grateful for them, even if they were never meant to be in your life forever.
The harshest commentary BoJack Horseman delivered about mindfulness is how often sad people orbit towards each other not for bonding but to validate their respectives miseries. And that understanding how toxic these kind of relationships will get makes the difference between looking for a change and giving up. And all this matter is so adult it makes me want to floss and run errands or something.
Bojack says it'd be funny this was the last time they talked; Diane's reaction is enough to say it will be. She then thanks him and rises. Something just hit me when Bojack then stops her to tell her about the Pieces of April story in prison. He just wanted to stay with her for that little bit longer and have a light hearted conversation. That one last moment to share with her. It's just those little details... It kinda makes it feel like a non-point now I've typed it out. But just the context of how he loves her and she's always on his mind in his most dire circumstances etc, and now he's accepting of her happiness. It hit me in the moment.
Jesus Alison and Will really knocked this scene out of the water, I felt so much pain just from their voices and the absence of animation really highlights that
“And… it’s going to be okay… and..” I swear to God after everything, hearing Diane say those words for some reason always leaves me holding back tears. I’m legit trying to not start sobbing rn as I’m writing this.
This scene honestly broke my heart. I hoped for the entire 6 seasons that Diane and Bojack would end up together, but it ended with her saying goodbye. I realized after this, though, that it was for the best that they never did. Bojack was terrible to Diane, and Diane was way too codependent on Bojack that it would have only screwed her up more. She managed to grow after she went to Chicago, and find herself and realize that Bojack was never good for her. Bojack used Diane, and hurt her way more times than I can count, but he managed to find redemption, and hopefully changed for good this time. Diane was right in saying " I think there are people that help you become the person you end up being, and you can be grateful for them, even if they were never meant to be in your life forever." even though this is the end for them, and never got the ending I wanted for them, they both helped each other to become the people they are now, even if they're parting for good.
When people who've overcome addiction, depression, finally are stepping out into the real world That's when you have to pay the most attention. BOJACK told Dianne he was sober he was happy But he still tried to swim in the pool
You might think that what I'm about to say is weird but it's true. Depression and sadness is addicting, and once you become happy or you move on a small part of you wants to go back. You want to go back because being sad and miserable is a lot easier(and kinda comforting) than getting up and fighting for your happiness. If you read this just remember, keep going, even if it seems impossible at times you still have the power to overcome everything.
As sad as it is, coping mechanisms are hard to develop, so sometimes reaching out for the addictions is a kind of conforting kind of stuff. Obviously that ends up being bad and hurting the person, but sometimes that is all someone knows as the familiar stuff.
I was the Diane in my last relationship and I feel bad that I cared so much for someone who’s self worth was defined by having a girlfriend. He was very much like bojack just to a lesser extent but still an emotional leech who fed off my empathic personality and took advantage of my kindness. He tried to use me as an escape from problems that are not my responsibility and dumped on me without thinking how I would feel. I’m going to send this to him because I feel this is the best way I can show him how I felt about our relationship. I hope he gets better in the future but I don’t wish him back ever again.
Have people listen at this and they will think its a either a dialogue from an oscar worthy movie or an emmy worthy show. But people wont actually believe its a conversation between a woman and a talking horse. That is why Bojack horseman is one of the greatest shows ever.
I’m AMAZED that this show can have a nine minute scene of nothing but dialogue and not have it be boring at all. This episode and Free Churro really let this show’s masterful use of dialogue shine.
The line "I didn't. but I trust him" relates to me, as someone with depression I can't trust myself a lot but I trust people a lot especially my girlfriend, the reassurance from someone you love and care for is all you need to 'learn' to be happy
Bojack prying a little into Diane's personal/romantic life and being slightly blindsided reminds me a lot of his reaction to what Charlotte's life was like without him
diane's self reflection here made me genuinely cry. i know how it feels to change so much you can hardly recognize who you were but can also feel that former self within you. the way life can change when you move to a new place and meet new people and actually get help for mental health and begin expressing yourself in better ways... it hit hard, and close to home.
I was a Diane for someone who lost their life to addiction and this last scene had me full on sobbing. But it also was closure that even if things have a sad ending, people and relationships can be complicated and still shape us into the people we need to be
"Sometimes life's a bitch and then you keep living." I think that single line is the best way to end this series. After rewatching the show, watching youtubers talk about it... that one single line stands out so much to me as the go to respond was "then you die." And it was bojack's go to throughout the series. And in this moment Diane says no, we keep living. Even with our consequences. Good and bad. And then the song after finishing this? I'll miss this show so much no matter how much it made me laugh or cry.
the ending hurt. i saw myself so much in bojack and seeing all his old friends distance himself for good made me realize i need to get my shit together before everyone around me does the same. i think what hurt most was how things with bojack and diane ended. they had an unhealthy attachment with each other the entire show and it all ended on that rooftop. i dunno man. it hurts.
There was the atmosphere in the air that both of them may have thought that they would be finally truly happy when they come together. But they both know that could not be the case, so they respect each other, understand each other, as friends. Though I still wonder how they would have been when they would have come together.
Thank you . . . And it's going to be okay. And I'm sorry . . . And thank you. Longer version: *Thank you* for everything but I just can't deal with the toxicity of our friendship whether your actions were intentional or not. I have to leave but you need to know *it's going to be okay* . You'll be okay. *I'm sorry* but I just can't be with you anymore but I'm glad you were a part of my life so *thank you* . This is goodbye.
Before departing and going separate ways, Bojack stops Diane so they can have one final conversation. A casual friendly chat, something that's similar to how their friendship has always been. The good part that is. This way the last thing they ever did together was spend a short but good time with each other instead of saying goodbye. As they end the conversation, they look at the stars and the credits roll.
The way Bojack tries to continue the conversation, knowing full well it's going to be the last moments he will probably ever have with Diane, by talking about a seemingly lighthearted occurrence in prison hits well. Diane is still responsive, but when the story ends, she is ready to say goodbye. Bojack knows this, too, and his final attempt at keeping Diane close to him is turned down in a way that he knows is absolute. There are no hard emotions; just a melancholic nostalgia and appreciation for a time that was always meant to be temporary. A time that was taken for granted, and a time that isn't anymore. I think Bojack has always gone by the thought of whoever is in his life will come back, no matter what. There will always be something to say or something to do that will drive a person to return. Yet this time, he knows there is nothing he can say. There is nothing that will make things stay even a little bit the same, and this time, he accepts it. Both characters have matured: Diane knows how to set boundaries and understands that people don't have to be permanent, and Bojack now knows his attempts at changing that mindset will only bring sadness. They both show that while they know what they want, they aren't completely there yet. They are still figuring out how to work their way through life, but a new chapter has started. This time, they just don't share the same book.
I really understand Diane in this scene. She cares for BoJack deeply after being close for so many years. But despite everything good there was too much pain and he placed so much responsibility for his well being on her. It’s hard, it’s incredibly hard, and I understand if she never spoke to him again after this even if he meant something to her.
Man I relate to Diane in this so hard. I moved 2000 miles away from my hometown to get away from all the toxicity and how living there made me feel. I had to say goodbye to a lot of people. It was and still is painful. But I'm a better and happier person now that I've moved. It was hard to do something that I considered in my mind to be "selfish" but I never in my life had done something for my own betterment. Diane's story in this season was so powerful to me because of this.
Yes, be grateful. Be grateful for all of it. The good, obviously, and also the bad, and the inbetween. But also be aware that gratitude shouldn't be mistaken for nostalgia.
This kills me so much. I know they were friends but I have this exact relationship with my dad. I wish I could have a conversation like this, where we could stop having a relationship and I could properly tell him goodbye and that I love him, instead of resenting him most the time with those light moments in between and never leaving. I don’t know how to pull away, and I know he isn’t going to change, and I don’t know how to take care of myself without hurting him.
I like how final Diane was being with ending her friendship with Bojack, she had made a completely new life for herself, the night was the end of her LA life, come Dawn she’ll be heading back to her new life in Houston, leaving LA, Mr Peanutbutter and Bojack far behind her.
I loved that this was the last scene. The way they both stay there together. It really puts the audience in their shoes- as it’s the last scene, we’re latching onto the very final moments of the show, not wanting it to be over. Similarly Bojack and Diane don’t leave immediately, still holding onto the very final moments of their relationship
@@kat3217 it’s part of what I like about this show. These two basically go on a separate journey throughout the series but cross paths plenty of times and affect each other more than once. By the end of it all, their separate-intertwined journeys are complete and from here they must proceed into god knows what kind of future.
The way Diane doesn’t forgive Bojack but still gives him one last conversation with her is so bittersweet, but fitting. Bojack still suffers the consequences of his actions towards her but he is let down easy, with Diane genuinely hoping he gets better even if she won’t be in his life anymore. Such a fitting and nice ending.
This dialogue is one of the best ever written. Each word has a deep meaning behind it when you look at the entire show. The fact that she felt like she made him promise her that he will be okay, like she had this whole responsibility to take care of Bojack while it was never her job. But he made her feel this way. Until the very end. The fact that she mentioned how much power he had over her points out the interview where he is told that he abuses power over women. The real difference here with Diane is that she handled it. She went through so much and Bojack was also there, and even after all the horrible things he did, she remains grateful. And while he didn’t beg her for her forgiveness, she forgave him. And she realized that the only solution to not feel this hate or resentment and find peace within herself was to follow her own path without him in the picture. “Sometimes life’s a bitch and then you keep living”. He didn’t die, he didn’t disappear from Diane’s life. But they won’t stay in touch anymore. And after all that happened, they both became mature enough to acknowledge that it was the best thing to do. For the both of them. Shout out to the creator of this show for making animated characters that deep and interesting. And to make an ending way more accurate than what shows always depict.
